Building a Sossaman rig?

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09-27-2008, 07:51 AM
jcool

Dang, could have bought that mobo on ebay.. oh well.
09-27-2008, 10:33 AM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

I just noticed ur sig - how'd u get the DDR2-667 to work?? I thought the mobo would only work with DDR2-400 :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

I'm interested too, I tried some DDR2-533 ECC REG and no go..beeped a memory error.

TBH, I'm not sure. It is the same memory I got from you Dave, when you sold me the first Sammy.

EDIT: I'm going to watch one of those X6DLP-EG2 mainboards on ebay, as I already have the Dynatron 'sinks for them.
09-27-2008, 11:47 PM
karl_eller

If anyone sees any 2.0 GHz chips (or even the 1.67's :p:) going for a decent price (and possibly ship directly to Australia) over the next few weeks, I'm up for grabbing a pair. I know I can get the 1.67's for about US$120 + shipping for a pair, but I'd prefer to either get the 1.67's for less or, even better, get some 2.0's.

Eller
09-28-2008, 12:51 AM
D_A

This link still seems valid: http://www.itxchange.com/itxchange/p..._no=39Y6598-02
09-28-2008, 12:58 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by karl_eller

If anyone sees any 2.0 GHz chips (or even the 1.67's :p:) going for a decent price (and possibly ship directly to Australia) over the next few weeks, I'm up for grabbing a pair. I know I can get the 1.67's for about US$120 + shipping for a pair, but I'd prefer to either get the 1.67's for less or, even better, get some 2.0's.

Eller

FYI:
The 1667's will average 6700 a day
The 2000's will average 7300 a day
09-28-2008, 01:10 AM
Martijn

I have got DDR2 533 ECC/REG here, I will post results on whether it works or not.
09-28-2008, 01:17 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn

I have got DDR2 533 ECC/REG here, I will post results on whether it works or not.

I tried DDR2-533 ECC REG and didn't work for me.:(

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09-28-2008, 02:03 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn

I have got DDR2 533 ECC/REG here, I will post results on whether it works or not.

awaiting results :D
09-28-2008, 02:21 AM
Martijn

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

awaiting results :D

Awaiting a board :D
09-28-2008, 04:25 AM
karl_eller

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

FYI:
The 1667's will average 6700 a day
The 2000's will average 7300 a day

I figure that if I get the 1667's, I should be able to use the pin mod to get them up to at 10x200, and see if I might even be able to get 'em to boot at 2660 (although I'd be fairly surprised if they did :p:). Mind you, I'd probably be doing pin mods on the 2000's too, just to see what they're capable of :D

Eller
09-28-2008, 04:43 AM
jcool

Ya I'm hoping to pinmod the 2000's to 2400, too :)
09-28-2008, 04:59 AM
just a noob

how does the pinmod work on pins, do you use a wire or something to connect two pins, and is it reversable?
09-28-2008, 05:02 AM
jcool

You use a thin wire, yes. For example one strand of an old IDE cable works great. It's easily reversible, just remove the wire.
09-28-2008, 05:26 AM
just a noob

awesome lol, all i need now is the ram psu and an hd, wonder if that 20gb i gutted would hold linux on it?
09-28-2008, 05:37 AM
jcool

20gb is plenty even for win XP.
09-28-2008, 06:14 AM
Martijn

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

20gb is plenty even for win XP.

20GB is plenty for Vista as well :up:

As for the pinmod, I have also seen people doing a u-wire mod instead of the pinmod. it's easier since you won't have to fiddle with the pins.
09-28-2008, 06:33 AM
Jaco

I've ordered a 370w Pc power&cooling PSU for my Sossaman system. this one

It's an 80plus efficient psu , which means at least 80% efficiency at 20% of 370w. 370w x 20% = 74w . Looks like a good match for such a low power system. I've also ordered a 4pin to 8pin adapter, just to be safe.
09-30-2008, 12:05 AM
Movieman

You learn something new everyday.
Here I am preaching that the only sossaman chips made were 1667's and 2000's.. WRONG!
They made a 13 multi 2167mhz version with the stepping of SL9HM:up:
http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SL9HM.html
09-30-2008, 12:08 AM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

You learn something new everyday.
Here I am preaching that the only sossaman chips made were 1667's and 2000's.. WRONG!
They made a 13 multi 2167mhz version with the stepping of SL9HM:up:
http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SL9HM.html

I saw those earlier, but those seems to be uber rare :D
09-30-2008, 12:20 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0lid

I saw those earlier, but those seems to be uber rare :D

http://www.upgradebay.com/c1_itemdet...emid=168756281
and uber expensive..
I emailed them with this:
Sirs;
If the price drops on the following part to the $150.00 range please contact me.
Thanks,
David Hunt
SL9HM INTEL XEON 2.167GHZ 667MHZ 2048KB CACHE MICRO-FCPGA PROCESSOR P/N: SL9HM - INTEL ORIGINALS
09-30-2008, 12:29 AM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

http://www.upgradebay.com/c1_itemdet...emid=168756281
and uber expensive..
I emailed them with this:
Sirs;
If the price drops on the following part to the $150.00 range please contact me.
Thanks,
David Hunt
SL9HM INTEL XEON 2.167GHZ 667MHZ 2048KB CACHE MICRO-FCPGA PROCESSOR P/N: SL9HM - INTEL ORIGINALS

Damn, those are rly expensive :o
09-30-2008, 12:32 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0lid

Damn, those are rly expensive :o

That's why I emailed him what I did.
Essentially( and politely) said:
ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FRIGGING MIND?:rofl:
09-30-2008, 12:43 AM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

That's why I emailed him what I did.
Essentially( and politely) said:
ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FRIGGING MIND?:rofl:

Yea i'm not into paying 300$/slice from old cpus :D
09-30-2008, 01:15 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

You learn something new everyday.
Here I am preaching that the only sossaman chips made were 1667's and 2000's.. WRONG!
They made a 13 multi 2167mhz version with the stepping of SL9HM:up:
http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SL9HM.html

..... mmm... I call shens.. & I blame the website.. I just did a *quick* search of the Intel website - there were no search results for SL9HM :( - I searched both the entire Intel website *&* their 'Processor Spec Finder' - both turned up nothing - I find it rather odd that the 'creator' has no clue about the 'created' ;)

wiki doesnt show anything either

& here is why I blame the website: there is a s479 2.16Ghz CPU - for normal lappies - so my guess is they got the 'Xeon' part wrong.. :) - here's my proof, RE: the laptop part:

http://processorfinder.intel.com/Lis...earchKey=SL9HM

*edit*: one of those lappie CPUs has sSpec code: SL9JN - 'J' & 'N' - both keys are right next to 'H' & 'M' ;) :shrug:

I dare ya to contact him & ask for a pic - of the IHS that is :D ;)
09-30-2008, 01:26 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

..... mmm... I call shens.. & I blame the website.. I just did a *quick* search of the Intel website - there were no search results for SL9HM :( - I searched both the entire Intel website *&* their 'Processor Spec Finder' - both turned up nothing - I find it rather odd that the 'creator' has no clue about the 'created' ;)

wiki doesnt show anything either

& here is why I blame the website: there is a s479 2.16Ghz CPU - for normal lappies - so my guess is they got the 'Xeon' part wrong.. :) - here's my proof, RE: the laptop part:

http://processorfinder.intel.com/Lis...earchKey=SL9HM

*edit*: one of those lappie CPUs has sSpec code: SL9JN - 'J' & 'N' - both keys are right next to 'H' & 'M' ;) :shrug:

I dare ya to contact him & ask for a pic - of the IHS that is :D ;)

you contact and ask. I've already written him telling him he's a crook!:rofl:
Seriously, cpu world is pretty reputable and this guy is selling them?
Makes me think they do exist..
13 multi..200FSB pin mod..2600mhz..hmm..
an 11,440 a day WCG sossaman.. for 117w..:rofl:
Use SetFSB with some 533 memory( if it works) and bump up to say 231.
3000mhz..:p:
Now thats something I have never tried, SetFSB with this.
I wonder if there is one for it?:confused:
same chipset as my 3600/2mb/800 xeons and none for that, I looked,asked and begged for that sucker long ago.
09-30-2008, 01:28 AM
D_A

It wouldn't be the first time the manufacturer has "disowned" something. I have an ATi vid card here (crappy old AGP2x thing, fleet model at that) that just does not exist in their database. They have older and newer, but not this one.
09-30-2008, 01:29 AM
jcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] Jaco

I've ordered a 370w Pc power&cooling PSU for my Sossaman system. this one

It's an 80plus efficient psu , which means at least 80% efficiency at 20% of 370w. 370w x 20% = 74w . Looks like a good match for such a low power system. I've also ordered a 4pin to 8pin adapter, just to be safe.

370W is still overkill...

Dave said his Sammy pulled 117W from the Wall, and he was using some 600W+ PSU if I recall correctly, which couldn't even be remotely efficient in that range.

I think I'll use a PicoPSU, that should be enough to get the whole rig below 100W drain, as these tiny monsters can reach 92% efficiency at low loads.
09-30-2008, 01:34 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

370W is still overkill...

Dave said his Sammy pulled 117W from the Wall, and he was using some 600W+ PSU if I recall correctly, which couldn't even be remotely efficient in that range.

I think I'll use a PicoPSU, that should be enough to get the whole rig below 100W drain, as these tiny monsters can reach 92% efficiency at low loads.

PCP+C 610 Silencer? A little overkill?:rofl:
09-30-2008, 01:36 AM
D_A

A spec. ops guy once told me, "There's no such thing as 'overkill', there's only 'just-enough-kill'. "
09-30-2008, 01:36 AM
tiro_uspsss

:D:D:D

I spoke too soon :D:D:D :p:

ftp://download.intel.com/design/inta...f/31578602.pdf

my bad! me is sorry for trying to rain on the parade! :D

*edit* I googled the part number, LF80539KF0482M, even the search giant could only come up with 2 pages of results! :eek:
09-30-2008, 01:43 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

:D:D:D

I spoke too soon :D:D:D :p:

ftp://download.intel.com/design/inta...f/31578602.pdf

my bad! me is sorry for trying to rain on the parade! :D

*edit* I googled the part number, LF80539KF0482M, even the search giant could only come up with 2 pages of results! :eek:

Sit's, watches my Aussie friend choking eating that crow!:rofl:
Hey, find the pll controller on that boad and lets see if we can do something with this..
Maybe make it actually generate enough heat to need a fan!:up:
and lets find at least ONE pair of these 2167 chips to see what they do in real life!
09-30-2008, 01:50 AM
jcool

Is that pinmod to FSB200 even supported, I mean, cause the mobo doesn't support FSB800 officially?
Anyone even tried one yet? :D
09-30-2008, 01:50 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Sit's, watches my Aussie friend choking eating that crow!:rofl:
Hey, find the pll controller on that boad and lets see if we can do something with this..
Maybe make it actually generate enough heat to need a fan!:up:
and lets find at least ONE pair of these 2167 chips to see what they do in real life!

:p: :D

waaaay ahead of u! :p: - I *just* emailed another e-tailer I found by googling the part number - they say they have 13 in stock. Next to price, it said 'ask' - so I mentioned I bought 2x 2Ghz for $260 3-4 months ago... ;) :D - heres to hoping! :D :up:
09-30-2008, 01:56 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesM63

TBH, I'm not sure. It is the same memory I got from you Dave, when you sold me the first Sammy.

btw MM - any comments to that ^ ? :confused:

did u sell him DDR2-400 & he's confoosed? :shrug:
or did ya sell him DDR2-667 & he's managed to get it working somehow? :shrug:
09-30-2008, 02:13 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

btw MM - any comments to that ^ ? :confused:

did u sell him DDR2-400 & he's confoosed? :shrug:
or did ya sell him DDR2-667 & he's managed to get it working somehow? :shrug:

I sent him a board,2-1667's,2x1 gig of DDR2-400 ECC REG if I remember right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

Is that pinmod to FSB200 even supported, I mean, cause the mobo doesn't support FSB800 officially?
Anyone even tried one yet? :D

I did and didn't work for me, but possible I messed it up..:shrug:
09-30-2008, 02:28 AM
jcool

Not the kind of answer I wanted to hear :shakes:
I'll try anyway, can't be harder than unlocking Palomino Athlon XP's with glue, conductive silver and a magnifying glass, now can it :up:
09-30-2008, 02:30 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

Not the kind of answer I wanted to hear :shakes:
I'll try anyway, can't be harder than unlocking Palomino Athlon XP's with glue, conductive silver and a magnifying glass, now can it :up:

No, but then again I didn't get it to work..:rofl:
Be back,6:30am and I neeeeeed breakfast!:up:
09-30-2008, 02:34 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

I sent him a board,2-1667's,2x1 gig of DDR2-400 ECC REG if I remember right.

mmm... hey WesM63, any chance u could confirm which/what RAM u got? either CPU-Z or physically look @ sticker on RAM? would really be appreciated! :) :bows:
09-30-2008, 02:59 AM
Jaco

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

370W is still overkill...

Dave said his Sammy pulled 117W from the Wall, and he was using some 600W+ PSU if I recall correctly, which couldn't even be remotely efficient in that range.

I think I'll use a PicoPSU, that should be enough to get the whole rig below 100W drain, as these tiny monsters can reach 92% efficiency at low loads.

Yes , it's overkill, I know.
But my calculations do make sense , no?
Should be in the 80+ efficiency range .
09-30-2008, 03:16 AM
jcool

Sorry pal, I didn't get your calculations in the first place :D
We only know Dave's Sammy sucked 117W from the wall, that's with 2 harddrives if I remember correctly and that 600W+ PSU, of which we have no idea of its efficiency at such low loads, but guessing it's rather bad. On top of that, he's on 110VAC which is usually 2% worse than 220VAC efficiency-wise.
So there's no definite numbers to calculate here, we'll need to see and check for ourselves soon :)
09-30-2008, 03:17 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

mmm... hey WesM63, any chance u could confirm which/what RAM u got? either CPU-Z or physically look @ sticker on RAM? would really be appreciated! :) :bows:

They are DDR2-400's..Positive..
just had breakfast..
6 eggs scrambled covered with a mild salsa
10 breakfast sausages
Working on my second cup of coffee now!:up:
09-30-2008, 03:20 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

They are DDR2-400's..Positive..
just had breakfast..
6 eggs scrambled covered with a mild salsa
10 breakfast sausages
Working on my second cup of coffee now!:up:

:rofl: ok WesM63, so u get: :slapass: :D j/k :p: :up:
09-30-2008, 05:13 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

i think the sm x6dlp board has a better chance of working with the pin mod as it doesn't require (or at least the documentation doesn't state this) a processor blank in the second socket to work with 1 cpu. my board should be here at the end of the week... yay. this'll make a great little low-power web/db dev server. i opted to look for 2000s since i'm not certain on the pin mod. dual 1667 just doesn't have much power to do anything anymore... besides, if the pin mod works, dual 2000 @ 2400 is always better than 1667 @ 2000!

hmm, i wonder if the ram timings will need some tweaking? if the ratio is locked, going from 166 to 200 will jump the ram from 100 to 120 (133). can ddr2 400 keep up at that speed?

edit: corrected my terrible math!

Correct me if I'm wrong but DDR2-400 is 200 memory meant for a 800FSB yes?
This system at stock runs a 667FSB(166 memory) so I am assuming this is automatically setting a 5/6 divider. Now the question is does bumping the FSB from 667 to 800 release that divider?
remember that this is the same 7520 chipset used in the last prescott xeon dual boards that were native 800FSB.
Google Supermicro X6DA8-G2 for an example.
I also saw in the Intel white papers on the sossaman board that it was tested and verified at "up to 800FSB"
09-30-2008, 05:58 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

/me remembers the forum rule:
1. dave is always right.

:D

:rofl: :kissbutt: J/K! :D :up: :lol:
09-30-2008, 06:09 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

i guess my math was worse than i thought, lol. i got carried away thinking about the quad-pumped bus for the cpu and forgot that ram is only 2x... hence the DOUBLE in double data rate, duh! haha.

so yes, we're counting on it go to 1:1 at 200 for the ram to stay within limits.

/me remembers the forum rule:
1. dave is always right.

:D

No, not always and trust me, there are many here that know a lot more than I do, just not many that know more on the sossaman than I do..;)
I put a lot of time into researching this system.
09-30-2008, 06:12 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

... just not many that know more on the sossaman than I do..;)
I put a lot of time into researching this system.

:yepp: :clap: :bows: :toast:

proof in point: Dave 'discovered' another CPU for this platform today! :woot: :up:
09-30-2008, 11:20 AM
test.it

maybe here:

http://www.intel.com/design/intarch/specupdt/311392.htm
09-30-2008, 11:32 AM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

:rofl: ok WesM63, so u get: :slapass: :D j/k :p: :up:

I'll look, but MM is prolly right. I'll get back to you.
09-30-2008, 01:47 PM
WesM63

On a side note: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180292698771
09-30-2008, 03:06 PM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesM63

On a side note: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180292698771

:shocked: ur going for a THIRD sossy?!? u need to be checked in.... :D :up:
09-30-2008, 04:12 PM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

:shocked: ur going for a THIRD sossy?!? u need to be checked in.... :D :up:

I suppose, why not? :up:
09-30-2008, 05:29 PM
Bail_w

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesM63

On a side note: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180292698771

It said :

This item is sold as-is & has not been tested

*
I will not accept returns on this board

So if it arrives DOA, 16 dollars is down to the drain.
09-30-2008, 09:12 PM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bail_w

It said :

This item is sold as-is & has not been tested

*
I will not accept returns on this board

So if it arrives DOA, 16 dollars is down to the drain.

Meh, its only $16, only a lunch... or two. :yepp:
09-30-2008, 09:16 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesM63

Meh, its only $16, only a lunch... or two. :yepp:

:shakes: I can get those new for $20.00 up here..
09-30-2008, 09:22 PM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

:shakes: I can get those new for $20.00 up here..

The Supermicro X6DLP-EG2??
09-30-2008, 09:27 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesM63

The Supermicro X6DLP-EG2??

oops, sorry, no The Intel boards
10-01-2008, 12:03 PM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

OT: this would probably make a nice cruncher farm...

That is kinda cheap :o
But the QC 8000 series opterons aren't =P
10-01-2008, 12:14 PM
Martijn

Any updates on the shipment yet? It seems to be at the customs for quite a while now?
10-01-2008, 03:33 PM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

yeah, i saw that on ebay (there were 2 or 3 iirc) but i didn't go for it because it's just the board, no i/o shield (who cares?), no cables (plenty of those around anyway), and most importantly, no heatsinks. the cost of getting the board and sinks shipped separately would have been a little less than what i paid, but i figured it's worth it to me for the extra couple dollars to get everything at once all brand new in box.

i guess wes already had the right heatsinks? i can't seem to find any info on a backplate for mounting the heatsinks. will i need to get one? i mean, i guess i'll find out in a couple days when the thing gets here, but i'm a little impatient... :)

Yep, the Dynatron I51 Heatsinks. The 'sinks come with backplates, like a TRUE does, only a lot smaller. ;)

The 'sinks are a little more expensive than the stock intel ones as well, ~$40 with shipping.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

OT: this would probably make a nice cruncher farm...

I've thought about doing a quad opty a few times. However, as Solid said, the chips are outrageously expensive. Just not worth the money over a Intel quad.
10-01-2008, 04:00 PM
D_A

The 8000 series are server chips, aimed to compete with Xeons of a similar price point.
10-01-2008, 07:38 PM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesM63

I've thought about doing a quad opty a few times. However, as Solid said, the chips are outrageously expensive. Just not worth the money over a Intel quad.

Actually PM rubidium, he said than he found place which sells old B2 8346HE Opterons at price 50-70$! Which meanin than u'll get 16 cores of cpu at 300$!
10-02-2008, 05:40 PM
theclash

Here is a great deal for someone looking for a new Sossaman setup. Only a few hours left though.
10-02-2008, 05:44 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by theclash

Here is a great deal for someone looking for a new Sossaman setup. Only a few hours left though.

I'm on that one so stay off!:rofl:
10-02-2008, 05:48 PM
theclash

I've been watching it for four days! Hope you get it, as the price will go over my budget....
10-02-2008, 05:59 PM
Bobsama

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

I'm on that one so stay off!:rofl:

*bids $110 at 5 seconds left*
10-02-2008, 06:23 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobsama

*bids $110 at 5 seconds left*

I'm maxxing at $160.00 on that..
and did you see the TIM on the cpu's?
Who put that on? A drunkin chimpansee?:rofl:
10-02-2008, 06:27 PM
D_A

Wouldn't be the first time. I think he had a job at the Mac Book plant for a while.
10-02-2008, 06:36 PM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

Wouldn't be the first time. I think he had a job at the Mac Book plant for a while.

:rofl::rofl:

The sad thing is, I used to own a Macbook Pro. :eek:
10-02-2008, 07:33 PM
rcofell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

I'm maxxing at $160.00 on that..
and did you see the TIM on the cpu's?
Who put that on? A drunkin chimpansee?:rofl:

Darn, that was the one I've been watching for a few days as well. Anyways, I think I just spotted a better package for my uses, so long as the reserve doesn't end up being too high.
10-02-2008, 07:38 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcofell

Darn, that was the one I've been watching for a few days as well. Anyways, I think I just spotted a better package for my uses, so long as the reserve doesn't end up being too high.

Good Luck..I just made my first move on this..:wasntme:
10-02-2008, 07:54 PM
rcofell

Yeah, I noticed earlier in the day that someone with a username ending in "n" placed a bid, so I kinda had a suspicion :D

Anyways this other auction I found stole my interest, as it comes with a different board and IPMI capabilities, something I've absolutely been wanting to mess around and will go a little further for. Although the package reminds me of a couple full cpu/ram/mobo packages I saw go by about two months ago, where the asking pricec were definately too high for my liking, but the seller ended up accepting some offers that were just what I would've jumped for :(
10-02-2008, 07:59 PM
D_A

Ya know ... every time I look the thread title I see "Sausageman", not "Sossaman". :shakes:
10-02-2008, 08:11 PM
theclash

I won't even ask.
10-02-2008, 08:14 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcofell

Yeah, I noticed earlier in the day that someone with a username ending in "n" placed a bid, so I kinda had a suspicion :D

Anyways this other auction I found stole my interest, as it comes with a different board and IPMI capabilities, something I've absolutely been wanting to mess around and will go a little further for. Although the package reminds me of a couple full cpu/ram/mobo packages I saw go by about two months ago, where the asking pricec were definately too high for my liking, but the seller ended up accepting some offers that were just what I would've jumped for :(

That wasn't me, I just put in my first bid a short time ago..:D
So, where's the link to what your looking at?:p:
10-02-2008, 08:29 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

here's a thread started by thee seller a little while ago

and another one

apparently he didn't have the right heatsinks so he just layered on the goop and let the sink rest on top...

he doesn't exactly seem to know what he's doing or what the cpus are for. additionally, his pals are equally clueless since they seem to suggest 30USD as a good starting price...

i'd be wary of the auction (i've been watching for 3 days now) only because:
1. he seems to use fake accounts to give himself feedback and bid up his items
2. in the forums he has a SL9HN and a SL8WT, but not 2 of either, so i'm guessing the auction might actually be a mixed C0/D0 pair (which is okay according to intel)
3. he's in vietnam but lists an address in oregon.

i decided it wasn't worth it to possibly get scammed so i bought some off of mm's ebay source.

good luck actually receiving the item!

Thanks for the info..
I will ask him for a pic of the item with an oregon current newspaper on it before sending any money..:up:
10-02-2008, 11:13 PM
rcofell

Well, I was looking at this one, but I see someone has jumped on it now. Not sure how high I'd be willing to go though, I really want something that could fit in a 1u and still manage to be quiet, plus the IPMI would always be fun to play with... but I'm a cheapskate as always :p:
10-02-2008, 11:16 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcofell

Well, I was looking at this one, but I see someone has jumped on it now. Not sure how high I'd be willing to go though, I really want something that could fit in a 1u and still manage to be quiet, plus the IPMI would always be fun to play with... but I'm a cheapskate as always :p:

Too much, let it go and that board does the same as the Intels I can get for $20.00..
10-02-2008, 11:45 PM
rcofell

Yeah, I would say $200 would be my absolute max, which has already passed.

So what you think about the results of that other auction? Interesting to see that winner had supposedly done previous business with the seller... :rolleyes:
10-02-2008, 11:49 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcofell

Yeah, I would say $200 would be my absolute max, which has already passed.

So what you think about the results of that other auction? Interesting to see that winner had supposedly done previous business with the seller... :rolleyes:

I reported that as shill bidding 4 minutes before it ended.
Yea, I saw it too and bailed at $160.00
10-03-2008, 07:22 AM
WesM63

That is one thing the X6DLP-EG2 has going for it, it is ATX not E-ATX like the Intel Board. (That and the extra PCI-X Slot)

I just wish we had a better source for the X6DLP-EG2 boards, I'd replace my Intel ones in a heartbeat.

EDIT: Just noticed something, the X6DLP-EG2 uses the ICS9DB108BFT clock generator chip.... wonder if its supported in clock gen?
10-03-2008, 08:12 AM
jcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

ram got here yesterday, mobo, case, hdd, 1u pcie riser, case fans and power cables all came today... just waiting on my pair of SL8WT that shipped today, so i should be ready to rock and roll by monday (hopefully by saturday if the shipping is fast)!

i have a gigabyte gf8600gt silent that i'm gonna stick in this case to keep it quiet but powerful. it's also nice because it doesn't need the 6 pin aux to run (doesn't even have the connector on it!).

i'll probably post some pics of my sammy setup this weekend... i'm excited, this is my first dp build ever!

oh yeah, about the pin mod, mm posted a pic that looks like it should work. s0lid posted one, but it didn't seem to align properly with what i was reading in the intel docs... i'll be doing some more reading on this to figure it out before i actually try anything, but the general consensus is that LHL = 200 fsb, which is what we want. since the sossaman specs never listed any other possible fsb, it may just 'assume' 166, though that would be bad practice...

Let me know what you find out regarding the FSB mod, I'd love to get them working at FSB200 (of course, I still need to receive the mobo first :D )
10-03-2008, 11:44 AM
rcofell

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

same seller has another auction up for sm board with a pair of SL8WT and 6gb ram, though i'd guess the reserve is set somewhere around 350-400USD.

Considering he picked both those(well, he added 4gb to that second one) up for less than $200 he'll come out on top either way. As I suspected, those kits are the same exact ones I watched go by two months ago. Here and here are the original listings, still kicking myself for not sending an email instead of internal ebay message that the seller never checks, or just straight up using the offer button...
10-03-2008, 01:19 PM
rcofell

Yeah, and the thing is I had tried sending the seller a message about bargaining for the whole 4 board lot, and after seeing that one go for such a price I realized just how possible it would've been to get them all for $500-600.
10-04-2008, 08:11 AM
WesM63

Alright guys, got the X6DLP-EG2 today. I'll give it a go here shortly. Although, it looks like someone de-soldered the 2nd pci-x slot! Yes, very odd and i'm not holding my breath on the board actually working.
10-04-2008, 08:55 AM
WesM63

Well to my surprise it works fine! Pics shortly.

BTW, I am using DDR2-800 Reg Ecc.
10-04-2008, 11:50 AM
WesM63

Here's a pic, not the best but you get the idea.

http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/sammy-super.jpg
10-04-2008, 11:54 AM
jcool

These heatsinks are cute. Mobo's looking good, I'd have preferred that to the Intel eATX too.. oh well.
10-04-2008, 12:08 PM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

These heatsinks are cute. Mobo's looking good, I'd have preferred that to the Intel eATX too.. oh well.

I'm not to keen on the Dynatron ones thou. I busted one sink already. You can kinda tell on the left sink how it looks like its setting funny.

I just wish my board had the 2nd pci-x slot.

EDIT: It's up and crunching away.
10-04-2008, 02:51 PM
karl_eller

+1 for prefering a relatively standard ATX board over an eATX one. Makes cases a LOT easier to buy (and I like running everything in cases, makes the room tidier).

I wonder if we'd be able to find a fairly cheap supplier of those boards, I'd be willing to pay up to about $40 more (so about US$60 total) just 'cause of the money I'd save with a cheap ATX case over an eATX.

Eller
10-04-2008, 08:57 PM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

finally finished cutting out the end of the pcie 8x connector on the riser card.
here's a pic of my build so far:
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3300/pic0001fv5.jpg
the fan on the left is very quiet and low power, but something to keep the air moving so the gf8600gt doesn't cook the mobo.
hdd on the right is a 320gb 2.5" wd.
i might add some front usb ports though it'll require taking a dremel to the faceplate... i have a cheapo usb sound card and my wireless keyboard/mouse that will be taking the two ports in the back.
i won't be adding an optical drive since i have a usb cdrw and i mainly only use cds for os loads anyway.
i'm waiting on a copy of w2k3ent through msnaa though i may load wxp in the mean time.

pic aint loading :(
10-04-2008, 09:36 PM
rcofell

Seems to be showing up for me... :shrug:

How's the noise on the 1u overall? I've been looking into getting one or a few of those half depth Supermicro ones, as I'll still be on the move between school and internships/co-ops for the next few years, so I like the idea of the half depth ones not taking up much space. I figure if I could fit one or both of my Athlon X2s into a 1u they probably wouldn't have to be too loud, but I've also got this coming on the way :D
10-04-2008, 11:39 PM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

finally finished cutting out the end of the pcie 8x connector on the riser card.
here's a pic of my build so far:
the fan on the left is very quiet and low power, but something to keep the air moving so the gf8600gt doesn't cook the mobo.
hdd on the right is a 320gb 2.5" wd.
i might add some front usb ports though it'll require taking a dremel to the faceplate... i have a cheapo usb sound card and my wireless keyboard/mouse that will be taking the two ports in the back.
i won't be adding an optical drive since i have a usb cdrw and i mainly only use cds for os loads anyway.
i'm waiting on a copy of w2k3ent through msnaa though i may load wxp in the mean time.

orbitmicro.com carries all sorts of riser cards. Even an 8x to 16x riser card.

With your pic, you can see that my board is missing the 2nd PCI-X slot. :confused:
10-05-2008, 12:18 AM
tiro_uspsss

its still not showing up :mad: dam it whats wrong with this PC :cussing:
10-05-2008, 12:30 AM
Movieman

can you see this?
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3300/pic0001fv5.jpg
10-05-2008, 12:37 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

can you see this?
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3300/pic0001fv5.jpg

nope :(

@ first I thought u might be messin' with me :p: :D

.... with both posts, when I quote them, I can read the link. But the pics never show up in the thread, nor on the 'reply page' - not even if I copy&paste the link in a new tab :( - it just endlessly 'loads/searches' :shrug:
I think its imageshack :down:
10-05-2008, 02:00 AM
D_A

Here ya go

Attachment 86385

... but only coz you're an Auzzie. ;)
10-05-2008, 02:13 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

Here ya go

... but only coz you're an Auzzie. ;)

thank u muchly! :bows: :toast: :up:

:eek: its in a 1U! sweet! :up:
10-05-2008, 05:20 AM
just a noob

what exactly does a riser card do? does it just flip a card sideways or something?
10-05-2008, 05:31 AM
Martijn

Quote:

Originally Posted by just a noob

what exactly does a riser card do? does it just flip a card sideways or something?

Yup. They are mostly used in racks that are smaller than 4U.
10-05-2008, 10:05 AM
NaeKuh

heh...

i think i have the sweetest sammy on XS. :rofl:

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