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Just testing 3.28GHz, and it seems stable so far. If it is, I'll try for 3.4GHz, but I'm on a quite fussy MB, so it may not be possible for a 24/7 setup as I'd like.
I may try dropping the RAM freq from 1066MHz to 1000MHz and see if that helps any.
My Q9450 and Rampage X48 is on the way, can you give some setting to get on 3.0 or 3.2 stable?
thanks
So do you guys think the Q9550 might possibly overclock a lil better then what the q9450 seems to be doin so far?
1.39v idle, 1.33v load
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2581/38ghzjn8.jpg
But get it stable ;)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6...mesmallrz9.jpg
3,8Ghz and only 10 lines in prime? :rolleyes:
Im sure it was just an example that it wasnt a suicide screenshot...Sheesh. :shrug: :shakes:
I'm not talking about the prime run length. I'm talking about the iterations. I have about 13-15 lines with 4000Mhz. And not only 10. but well, it's a E3110.
Whoa...ok, BIG difference there COB... thanks for telling us the actual voltage 4 posts in!!! ;)
Anyway, I get the same voltage (1.375 in bios, 1.36 load CPUz).
Im also quite curious about this PRime thing and what is wrong with it.......
Sorry. I was in a rush for work this morning and forgot to slide down the Everest window to show the vcore when I took the screenshot. And I've been at my dads for dinner ever since I posted it :)
If it really was 1.2v it would have a thread all to itself :rofl:
Nice run, Cob. :) Seems like that X3350 chip I sold (which could stay stable at 3.80GHz with only 1.304v real) was still the best gem.
Ahh... I sooo want to see another 4GHz stable chip.
Vcore doesn't really seem to play a part in these chips anyway. The FSB wall is hit long before the vcore gets dangerous.
Even the Q9550 doesn't look like it's getting past 4ghz too often, even under phase.
3.8ghz whit 1.2v wtf that is fantastic!!!
Ah, I didn't see the previous posts. Yea, makes sense.
my Q9450 (L812B028) does 3.6 at 1.39v OCCT stable
will run prime overnight
temps seem funny
at full load coretemp shows 72,63,64,60 and realtemp shows 59,49,54,50
Just recieved my Q9450. Still waiting on my P5e3 Premium...
Batch nr: L806B255
Anyone has a Q9450 from the same batch as mine ? :D
#phreak
where can I get q9450 oem ? sorry for offtopic :)
oh my bad...!
when you say 'load' I assume you mean running small fft's in PRime 95 or OCCT correct? PLaying a game is not full load on the cores as most games out now most certainly do not balance our hte load on teh cores. Maybe thats why?
Mine Q9450 is a L813B"James Bond"
1.24v real 3.6G prime95 8hrs large fft
1.2625v cpu in bios
1.3v fsb vtt
1.25v nb
D9GMH 1Gx4 1:1 CL5
at Asus P5K-E pcb1.03
I just got my Q9450, Batch L811A851. Pack Date 5/02/08. VID 1.125 testing it right now. Also i think its a hard overclocker, but I'm going to do a burn in first. Its Idling hot at stock volts. 40C. Max temp on load is 62C right now.
I'm working on it right now. But the VID is 1.125 i think, But Its at 1.3325 in bios right now at 3.2Ghz, Currently in stress test using voltage 1.27. This thing is HOT at any voltage. I have no idea why. Core 1 is currently 70C, Core 2 is currently at 64C, Core 3/4 is at 67C. My Q6600 wasn't never this hot. Also the Chip idles hot too for some reason, its about 65F in my room right now. I don't get it. it should be running alot cooler then this.
Just picked up one from a local Microcenter. It's L812A528 with 5/5/08 pack date.
One odd thing though, there was also another one with 5/5/08 pack date, but older batch of L811A9xx
By the way, MC is still selling a Q9450 for $299
I got C1 stepping, I think there is a problem with C1 and my motherboard, I can't go above 430 so far. I gotta keep trying. The C1 stepping started to get worked on Bios in the 1004 bios for Maximus Extreme. I'm trying 1007, and 1101 right now. No luck. The CPU is still running hot. But Max Load temp has gone down about 2-4C.
Warboy you running coretemp or real temp fo rthat quad? Core tmep is 10C hot...
I haven't the balls to lap mine yet. I'm gonna wait to see if the Wolfdale degradation is really true or just a myth.
I'm dying to do it as currently under folding load my core temps range from 46c to 54c.
There is nothing wrong with those temps COB... though I agree any little bit can help!
Yip the average temp is fine, but the 8c difference between the coolest and warmest core is annoying.
I just got finished running some tests with my new Q9450 from MC yesterday. Packed 5/5/08, and it's running hot too, with a 10 degree difference between the hottest and coolest cores. Don't remember the batch number right now, but the VID was 1.125. Maybe this latest batch is somewhat of a bad run?
-M
Yip I did, and the sensors were fine :)
I think the stuck sensor thing only happens @ load - not when idle, so it should be easy to tell. Mine are also stuck on idle. After lapping difference between cores @ load is around 4-5 degrees.
My x3350's sensors are ok, I get about a 3C diff between hottest and coolest in real temp while running occt. Course i'm WC'ing, and the apogee block has a pretty solid mount, you can't hardly get it uneven if you tighten down all the nuts completely.
My VID is 1.25 says Real Temp, Core temp says 1.125, which is it?
Having stability probs wQ9450 @ 3.6 -
Core 1 fails Prime within 5 seconds. All other cores seem normal. Load temps (RealTemp) 59-61C.
System:
Rampage Formula
Q9450 @ 450FSB
OCZ (2x2GB) PC2-8500
Zalman 9700
750w PSU
Settings:
CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO
FSB Strap to NB: 333
FSB Freq: 450
PCIE Freq: 100
DRAM Freq: AUTO (CPUz detects 540.1, 5:6, 2T)
DRAM Command Rate: AUTO
DRAM Timing: Manual (5-5-5-18)
All other RAM Functions: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
CPU Voltage: 1.350 (1.336 CPUz)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
NB Voltage: 1.65
DRAM Voltage: 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.50
SB Voltage: 1.050
SB 1.5 Voltage: 1.5
Loadline Calibration: Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: AUTO
NB GTL Voltage Reference: AUTO
DRAM Controller Voltage Reference: AUTO
DRAM Channels A&B Voltage Reference: AUTO
Am I missing something or is this chip jacked?
My batch number is L811A951
Things have smoothed out a bit. The temps are a little higher than I would like, but I have it stable @ 3.6, 1.392v. It primed for 14 hours last night, small FFTs, and the temps never went above 60 degrees on the "hot" core. I'll try a mix tonight to see how it goes, then see if I can push it to 3.8. If it does, I'll be overjoyed and call it a day.
-M
I'm thinking of cancelling my X3350 when reading these posts. I was thinking about getting 450x8 like my old 65nm Q6600 could. Only then on default of lower then default volts. But it seems some have to ramp the v-core quite a lot to get those speeds. And when you ramp the v-core the cpu will consume 2x the normal wattage wich is not handy for my pc running 24/7 i'm running my Q6600 at 3.2 stock volts so i was hoping for 3.6 with stock for this X3350 but it seems thats not possible ?
2x the wattage? :shrug: What volts and clock speeds will double the wattage?
All PSU calculators dont show that kind of difference....http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngin
Using the link above, at stock, my system uses 372W. I just o/c the processor and got 435W. Thats a smidge more than 50% increase, not 2x.
I know of a few people running a Q9450 at 3.6Ghz with stock volts all around. The issue is the board you get to run it on; in my case I got the P5E3 Premium, and it is a b!tch of a board for my CPU/RAM combo. I can run everything stock at 400x8, except for the RAM, it needs +.04v to be able to run at 1:1 with the CPU. If you want to run a CPU at 3.6Ghz 24/7 then this is the chip for you since you don't really any voltage at all; you just need to read up on the possible board you want to use, and look for the RAM that is performing the best with it. In the case of the P5E3 Premium, seems that the CellShock PC3-14400 is the most stable RAM.
^^ werd ^^
I would be wholey impressed if I saw some screenshots of 3.6Ghz yorky's with stock voltage. Best I could do at 3.6Ghz was 1.29v.
I'm at work right now, but I have seen [read] posts in different forums stating that they are able to run the Q9450 at 3.6Ghz with the vCore set to 1.20 in BIOS [1.168 in CPU-Z]. I will try it myself tonight when I get home. I will also try and locate the post where I read it.
VID or stock for a lot of these chips are 1.12 (at least mine is). So that would be over stock (on my chip). I can pull 1.19v at 3.2Ghz.
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe my chip was pulling 1.168v from auto when set to 1333Mhz FSB. I'll reiterate tonight.
Well, I was unable to locate the posts; but I was unable to get it up to 3.6Ghz at stock volts, I had to crank it up to 1.27v.
On a side note, for some reason the system is acting funny at 1600FSB/DDR3-1600. I dunno if I just tried to many settings and it threw the motherboard a curve ball or something; all I know is that I just won't go past 3-4hrs worth of Prime95 anymore. However, I was able to get it pretty stable to 415FSB with RAM running at 1245Mhz with 5-5-5-15 timings and 1.94v. I will have to wait a bit to post the settings from the BIOS because it is still running OCCT.
CORRECTION - VID now shows 1.23v. I have screeens at 3.2GHz 1.19v. But not at 3.6Ghz.
:D A new BIOS revision [0402] for my board [ASUS P5E3 Premium] has been released, and in the comments it states: "Better CPU Support". :D I'm hoping this might allow me to run my Q9450 @ 3.6Ghz stable. I will post result soon.
Telo - you are crashing @ 3.6 because you are not giving enough juice. Most people need close to 1.28-1.32v to run prime stable on any board. I have not seen a single person run 3.6 prime stable at 1.20v. If you do, they either have an overvolting board or must have a golden chip and that would probably fly under LN. Good luck
^^ agreed
I'm using 1.33 volts according to OCCT (1.41/1.42 according to Everest) to get 3.6GHz stable.
Trying to get 3.7GHz stable now :D
Make sure your VTT/PLL don't get to high if you leave them on auto (like I did)!
Your PLL seems a little low, try 1.60v. Your VTT [FSB termination] is extremelly high for that CPU, try anything lower than 1.40v.
I have a different board from yours, but I run my SB voltage at 1.20v.
Also, what is the mix-max for your NB voltage? My P5E3 Premium has 1.25-1.80 or something like that; so 1.65v to the NB in my case would be rather high, so you might want to lower it I think [but, since I do not have the same board it is up to you].
Intel rates the voltage for the Q9450 up to 1.37~v, so IMHO 1.35v seems a bit high for 3.6Ghz. I'm able to boot into Windows with 3.6GHz @ 1.31~v, but since my RAM is not really supported by the board with 4 sticks at that speed, the moment I try to run anything it crashes within 5 minutes; if I just leave windows up it can stay on for a long time. I'm not really interested in trying to run my PC with anything less than the 4 sticks I own, so testing it with 1-2 sticks is a waste of time for me.
thee 45nm chips don't seem to be any better than a q6600. Both clock about the same.
Hey guys check out the new VID readings from the new Core Temp
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/Quote:
- Fix: Incorrect VID detection on 45nm desktop Intel parts.
Mine has jumped from 1.1250v to 1.2375v. My BIOS has been setting 1.235v as the VID all along.
Aaaaaah!
*runs to read them
nice chip you have then. My 1.325vid q6600 will top out at 3.6-3.7 on water. perhaps I'll pick up that revisioned q9450 or 9550 and hit 4.2ghz 24x7 water :)
Q9450's will top out at 3.8ghz and Q9550's at ~4.0ghz due to their ~475mhz FSB walls.
They're not worth the extra money atm tbh. Clock-for-clock they're about 10% faster than the Q6600, and my 1.225v VID Q6600 Folds at 3.9ghz and only 1.43v under load, with plenty left in it.
But how much volts do those Q9550 and QX9650 guy's need to get to those 4000+ MHz speeds ? 1,45v and higher ? witch would increase your power draw.
I had my Q6600 running at 3200 MHz 1.25v when i went to 3500 MHz i needed as much as 1.5v to get there increasing my power draw by 70-80 Watt on full load. And that only for 300 MHz. I'm running 3000 now on 1.168v. Its fine with me.
I canceled my X3350. I ordered it 2 months ago still not on stock and there might be a price drop of the Q9550 in Q3. So i'll wait for that or buy a AMD Denep core 45nm Quad.
They seem to be getting Q9550's to 4ghz on about the same volts as the Q9450 gets to 3.8ghz (1.37-1.4v under load). VCore isn't really a problem with these chips, it's the VTT and MCH volts since they hit their walls at ~475mhz.
And yip the Q9550 will drop to the same price as the Q9450 is now in Q3. Looks like the Q9450 might go EOL as it's not listed to drop in price.
Links to price drop forcast plzz!
EDIT: Found it! --> http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...sl=zh-CN&tl=en
Hey, great thread so far.
I am having great difficulty passing 3.5GHz on my P5E(bio 0702) with my Q9450. I have applied crazy voltages and low memory speeds/loose timings. Specs are in the sig. Temps are low.
3.5GHz seems stable with 1067Mhz 5-5-5-15 memory. 3.6 won't boot into vista. I slowly increased all the setting and finally got 3.6 to boot into Vista, but locked up before long and won't boot back into Vista. This is at 1.42 Vcore in Bios.
Is there a reason for this difficulty?
vPLL 1.64
vFSB 1.5
vNB 1.75
vSB 1.175
DRAM 2.16
Still locking in vista at 3.6! Yet I can get 3.5 with auto everything and Vcore 1.262 into vista and looking stable so far! Crazy!
Please help.
Hello folks!
Got my Q9450 yesterday L806B326 packdate 14/5 2008 vid 1.175v. And all I can say is that I am more then happy :)
here is a screen:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9868/3600wm8.th.jpg
This is with 1.275v in bios 1.256 load but I found out later that it is stable with 1.23v load only, at 3600mhz. I ran that prime on the pic for 10 hours, tested 1.23v at 3600mhz with some OCCT for 1 hour and it passed gonna prime it at 1.23v later. Running a Maximus formula bios(0403) modded to Rampage vtt is 1.24 and vnb is 1.45v. I also got 4 sticks of ram PC8500 Ballistixs.
Been trying som 3800mhz with 1.3v vcore and it seems stable so far will come with some more results later on still in testing state.
//Aqua :up:
You're having the same problem I am. I can get to 3.7 because of the extra .5 multi, but crashes before vista starts loading with any more than that. I tried Bios 6.05 and 6.07 also with no change, and 602 gave me a "unknown processor" error. I was able to boot my Q6600 @ 3.96 and my E6750 @ 4.2 on this board with the same RAM. I don't think the p5e is quite ready for the Yorkfields yet. :(
lowtcell, Seems like almost the same FSB too. I had an E6600 at 3.8 without trouble before the Yorkfield.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...reTweaked2.jpg
Repost... and I would like to say something that I've always said from the very beginning: It's not an FSB wall, and it's got nothing to do with VTT and MCH volts, either. Seems like something else is at work, and so far, the best bet is to get an ASUS P5E-VM HDMI and build yourself a lanbox or so. Others have speculated BIOS, and I'm starting to feel that that's the case as well, seeing as to how setting the FSB strap to 266 on some boards will let you go higher.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...C/404GCPUZ.jpg
But the P5E-VM HDMI can already do beyond 500MHz with no modification at all. You don't even need to update the BIOS.
Hi ...
I have my q9450 @ 3.2 and i've ran prime for over 8 hours with both small FFT and blend without any crashes or BSOD.
But i seem to keep getting a BSOD either during boot up or just by browsing the net. All my temps are within safe limits.
I have a ASUS maximus formula mobo with 1201 BIOS.
Do these settings look ok??
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : x8
FSB Frequency 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.2375v (1.22v)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5v (1.616v)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41v (1.44v)
DRAM Voltage : 1.90 (1.98v)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.31v (1.25v)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v (1.07v)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5 (1.54v)
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : x8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
I've also ran memtest without any errors and i'm running 4x1gig cellshock memory.
Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
Try to increase your NB voltage by a bit. 4 gigs at 800MHz an 4-4-4-12 timings can be really stressful for the northbridge.
So how many other people have the P5E-VM HDMI and are getting similar results to yours? I was leaning towards buying an Asus P5E or Rampage board. Would this board be better?
How is it's all around use? Or would it only win out in the overclocking department?
3600 mhz and 1.21 vcore load I gonna try stock vcore and 3600mhz now :D
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5872/1216kw9.th.jpg
enjoy
Let's see... trans am has one. Nezzari has one. I think quite a few others as well. I've personally gone through two P5E-VM HDMI boards and have gotten at least 475 FSB on both boards with one X3350 chip and one Q9450 chip. Of course this thing won't win any extreme performance contest, but it's decent enough. Size is definitely a plus.
This is my 3rd P5E-VM HDMI. I've sinked all the mosfets I could get to, sinked the PLL chip, put a TT SpriteII NB heat sink on, and with voltage settings similar to Runaway, Here are the results with my Q9300:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ourPrime95.jpg
With the VDroop mod, I actually get negative VDroop (voltage jumps from 1.31 to 1.33 under load). BTW, I'm using 8 Gigs of GSkill DDR1000, so I think that says alot for this mobo to be able to hit 480 FSB with 8 gigs of RAM.
I get my Q9450 today and I'll post results with it.
ok thanks...i will give it a try. My Q6600 @ 3.2 didn't need alot of NB volts i think it was set at 1.39 under windows. So i take it the q9450 might need more?.
Also do you think it might need more FSB Termination Voltage? i don't want to put this too high.
Thanks.
How far are these chips getting on DFI boards?
And did we decide that these chips are being held back by BIOS support? (it was talk a while ago)
I am getting random lock ups today. Passed 12Hrs Prime Small FFT and 12 HRS blend, and OCCT. Vista locks up randomly with Q9450 at 3.55 (bios 0702) 1.26 vCORE. ANy advise?
yes - 24 hrs prime :)
Sounds like you might need some more Vcore.
For anyone interested, MicroCenter has the Q9450 Retail on special for $299.00. I went in to return my OEM Q9450 because I feared something was wrong with it, turns out they did not have the OEM in stock and gave me the retail one instead. On top of that they did a return/purchase, so I got back $359.00 and paid $299.00 for the replacement. :shocked:
Here is the info on the new one:
MM#: [whatever that means] 897364
FPO/BATCH# L815A709
Pack Date: 05/05/2008
Version# E34934-001
I do not know the revision nor stepping because I have not installed it yet; hopefully it performs better than the previous one.