So how about you guys start posting some pictures up of your setups lol
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So how about you guys start posting some pictures up of your setups lol
Good point. Most mobos seem to be good at auto configuring the timings to SPD for first boot. I just hope this Bonetrail recognizes the voltage spec in the SPD and auto sets the BIOS accordingly. I don't exactly have spare sticks of DDR3 to get into the BIOS lol.
One final Zalman question - I do have a 9700 NT at my disposal. But it seems to have the part copper part aluminum design. What would you all consider the best processor that heatsink could handle?
Anybody using Crucial Balistix DDR3 1600 with this motherboard? I can't get the mobo to boot with anything over 3Ghz with a Q6600. Latest BIOS, tried every voltage combination possible.
I also have the Crucial PC3-12800 Ballistic and have experienced the same
problem. I am running at 3ghz solid and that seems to be my top. The
strange thing is that I am at default settings here. I have run the memory
at 1:1, 1:2 800 and 1600strap and also 2:3 but only with the cpu at 3ghz.
One hardware failure turned up. My channel B, slot 0 dimm socket produces
extensive errors. I am using channel A slots only in single channel mode.
This configuration is error free. I have requested a RMA from Intel which
is still in process. Probably held up by the holiday depleted staffing...
What is max FSB achieved with this board, using quad?
I used Memorytest, Prime95 and Everest.
Present settings: Ref Freq 400, Mem Freq 800, Host bus Freq 333
All voltages at default. Vdroop and Voffset are both disabled.
Mem: 7,7,7,20 Vdimm 1.54v
Would you recommend this board if I wanted to go DDR3?
I got my two HD2900XTs hooked up in Crossfire mode, but now during POST, the screen stays completely blank UNTIL Windows boots ... I have never seen that before ... any ideas? I can't even see the BIOS screen when I hit F2 during POST ... kinda scary ... HELP! :eek:
Try using the other DVI connetion.
I've used both of them, but I think I figured it out ... Under Video, I switched from Auto to force External PEG ... it works now ... but I never thought of it until I gave it a shot ... both HD2900s are internally connected ... so who would have thunk it? :p:
Okay, here is the Bonetrail rig for my customer in the P190 with Crossfire ... and it is working fine! ... :D http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1...rossfirtx5.jpg
Well I have drove myself NUTS trying to decide on DDR2 or DDR3. I "m upgrading from 875. I have decided to just go ahead and go to DDR3 that way I can use it down the road.:up:
Here are some pics of my current setup.
I have a spare DX38BT new in the box. I already have a Qx9650 in one and running 10x420 BEAUTIFULLY on water. Pics Below. Since i have a spare board i thought i'd go cheap on the cpu and try a Q6600, but before I order one I was wondering how fast you were able to push it on water. If i can get close-to the same speeds as my QX9650 why pay $900 more????
Below is my second WC setup, my first build was on a Maximus Xtreme. I get better stability on the DX38BT hands down. I would like to get some beter mem on board though.
http://www.dispensamatic.com/dx38bt1.jpg
http://www.dispensamatic.com/dx38bt2.jpg
Notice the MCW60... I used ethernet wire to make loops through the holes in the board :) ^^^^^^^
http://www.dispensamatic.com/dx38bt3.jpg
http://www.dispensamatic.com/dx38bt4.jpg
Could someone help me and give me some good bios settings to go with quad, this is hell to tune compared to all other boards.
Every time I try to overclock screen just stays black, damn.
Please post bios fotos.
CPU is Q6700 and memory is Corsair 2x1GB PC3-1600MHz
Hey guys im setting up my board, however im having some difficulty removing the northbridge heatsink, it appears to be stuck on there pretty damn tight, so much so that im bending the board soome from trying to remove it, ive unscrewed the screws, removed the backplate, and taken the clip off, but no go so far. How firmly stuck is it usually to the thermal pad.
Heat that NB heatsink a little helped me.
I had the Q6600 up to 445 FSB. I didn't go beyond that because I needed it in another rig but there were no indications that it wouldn't go higher. vCORE was 1.5000.
First boot into maintenance mode and disable the "Watchdog".
What are your OC objectives?
You should be able to do 400FSB without breaking a sweat.
Mine was pretty firm but heat and a twisting motion helped. There's an IHS underneath so it's not as delicate as other NBs.
woo that bad boy was on there tight as hell, the heat worked out pretty good but it had like a vaccum seal between it and the IHS
Am i wrong here, or shouldnt the Q6600 @ 4Ghz be close to the QX9650 @ 4Ghz? Can the cahce help that much? Newegg has Q6600 for $274 for crying out loud! And i got a late christmas present! The place i ordered my last thermochill PA120.2 from sent me 2 Rads by mistake! OOPS! Now i gotta buy the rest of the stuff to make another WC Setup... I think thats sneeky marketing LOL!
I watercooled the NB, but was it really neccessary..... I think a re-application of good thermalpaste and a little fan would have been fine.
I wonder if Intel fixed thier vista audio drivers yet, anyone tried the ones from thier site recently?
The cache DOES help so you have to look at the application. Compute intensive apps will probably be close. Memory intensive apps will probably benefit from the larger cache. Does it justify the extra $800? Not for me.
The NB really only needs the extra cooling if the voltage is raised significantly or you're going for extra quiet operation. I probably didn't need to do mine either but I was already cooling the NBs on my XBX2s so it was no extra work to do the BT.
Haven't tried Intel's Vista audio drivers. The stock drivers work fine for me.
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/DSCF1518.jpg
in the process of assembling now :D
Does the SB get hot enough for that Tt Extreme Spirit? I have the same HSF on the NB of my BadAxe2, but I think the fan is either dying or not plugged into a header with enough power.
-bZj
On all the motherboards ive ever used, under heavy harddrive activity they tend to get pretty hot, now probably the stock heatsink is fine, but i just wanted to have a reason to use that thing. Ill probably upgrade to an HR-05 on both chipsets and just go for all out bling.
That CPU OCīs good on Asus Maximus Formula SE, like 475MHzx8.
Why CPU voltage is totaly different than it is setted from CPU override menu? I have setted 1,55V and hardwaremonitor and Everest shows 1,44V.
Nobody seems to have 8x450MHZ bios screens?
BTW, disablig Watchdog didīnt do anything for me.
Highest FSB I can boot is 350MHz for any multiplier.
It is testbed project machine, so I´m not including it to my profile.
It has:
- Intel DX38BT with latest bios
- 2x Corsair CM3X1023-1600C7DHXIN
- QX6700 ES
- Alphacool Answer III small watercooling system
- Geforce 7500LE
- Corsair 750W PSU
- Optiarc S-ATA DVDRW
- Seagate 200GB S-ATA HDD
- Vista X64
I finaly did get it going 8x400MHz, it was pretty painful operation:
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=1424675.png
I have to take some photos from bios.
Is there an issue with this board where it doesnt have an option to disable C1E, cus my cpu is still throttling even with vistas power management set and EIST disabled.
Yes, C1E is always enabled. You can use Everest or RMClock to disable it or use the driver that was posted in the XBX2 thread to automatically disable it on startup. Do you really need to disable it though? I do it for benchmarks but leave it on for normal operation.
Well i got the C1E all figured out, i skimmed through your post last night and found out about that, however on vista i need to disable driver signing, and for some reason driver signing re-enables every time you reboot.
More to the point, i havent been able to establish an OC on this board for some reason, i dont know if the different style of the bios is mixing me up or not, but i was running 3ghz on my E2140 on my last board. Do you think you can give me a quick rundown of what i am doing wrong here before i put this motherboard in the for sale section LOL
An E2140 huh? What memory? What does the BIOS report as the SPD for the memory? What does the memory and reference frequency default to?
Might I suggest putting the E2140 up for sale instead of the board? :)
Im using some patriot value ram until i can figure out a way to get more expensive ram, spd reports 7-7-7-20, 1066, which is the case, and im keeping the ram at default speeds. I can oc to about 1.9ghz, anything above that, and it doesnt matter how much voltage i throw at it, it wont boot.
In bios1397 the board set 1T by default. It's OK if I only plug 2 dimms. I can run my STT DDR-1600 stable @ 800MHz 7-7-7-20 CR1, vNB 1.30v. But it's very hard to run 4x1GB memory at 1T. Intel should let user choose 1T or 2T in BIOS.
The board is very stable once you find the right settings. I can run my QX9650 4GHz prime95 smallfft @ 1.242v load.
(still doing pre-build research)
Based on the last post above, whats everyones opinion on the latest BIOS? Did it add anything of noticeable improvement? Or was BIOS 1358 stable and possibly an equal or better alternative?
I ask both because of what the last poster stated about a 1T default, but also because my Intel DP35DP mobo had an odd second December BIOS release that caused me a bunch of problems. (Maybe this latest round of Intel BIOS updates were taken out of the oven too soon?)
One other question, I picked up a USB floppy drive. Will I be able to use that and iFlash to update the BIOS?
You may boot from a USB flash drive to update the BIOS.
I jump from bios 1308 to 1397. In 1308, memory are set to 2T by default.
QX9650 @ 4GHz, 1.325v vCore in BIOS.
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9...mark2k6ps2.jpg
Well ive been working with it for a few days now, and im not happy with it at all, im gona be putting it up for sale in the classifieds section at a discounted price, also gotta get rid of this stick of ram i bought. Just thought id give you guys a heads up.
Im gona be going with the Foxconn Mars instead, with 4 gigs of Adata Extreme Edition ram. Ill stick with my E2140 at 3ghz until the E8400 is ready.
Bobov:
Thanks!
Randy2:
I have some questions about your hardware setup / signature.
Is that Zalman 9700 the full copper model or the NT version with the aluminum and copper?
Would it be unwise for me to try a 9700 NT on a QX6850? (i.e. does the 6850 run hotter than the 9650?)
Is your RAM rated as PC-10666 out of the box or is it PC-16000 that you have underclocked? If the latter, what is the benefit?
Anyone:
What program do you all use to monitor tempuratures and fan speeds? Im aware of Intels software but have never liked how Intel cannot make a WHQL certified SMBUS driver for years on end now. And with MBM5 out of business Im just wondering what is the new software to use?
I still use MBM with the CoreTemp plugin, and it works perfectly on my previous E6300 and my X3210 Quad, under XP Pro and Vista x86. It's not perfect on fans speeds, but temps are reported and logged fine.
I use CoreTemp with a hack to work under Vista x64 on my Turion X2 laptop.
-bZj
Yesterday i tried my new Bonetrail + ddr3 and it was quite wresling to get my rig even power up :(
Same problem with maximus formula: u can't mount cooler too tight.
I spent 2-3 hours by thinkin is the mobo broken or is the mem broken...
Now finaly i have working system with intels boxed cooler -.-
Today i'll try again mount watercooling and start OCing :D
I am using the full copper version and I am pretty happy with it. As far as the 6850 goes, you would have to look at Zalman's site to see if it supports that CPU speed, but I would think it would. The 6850 should be a little hotter than the 9650 because I believe the default voltage is higher, and it is 65NM versus 45NM process.
The Patriot memory I use is 10666 (1333) out of the box @ 1.7V. I am running it at 1533 @ 1.82V. It could do more, but I am content where it's at.
I am looking to buy a Bonetrail as it is so cheap right now :) I read threw the hole thread and the highest FSB i remember seeing was ~450MHz. Which is kinda low. Has anyone been 550MHz+. If this board isn't capable of it, I think I'll pass.
Hello,
This is one of my first posts, I'm trying to get my memory to run at 1600 but a little over 1500 is all I can accomplish before my system is unstable. I have tried different ratios, and different FSB speeds but it seems it has a limit of around 1500+ a little. Can someone look at my voltages and see if they think they are in the ballpark?
Currently my ref freq is 400 and my mem freq is 1333, I seem to have the best luck with this ratio at any FSB speed..
:welcome:
There are definitely combinations of settings that work better than others. Your voltages are reasonable but I'd try increasing the multiplier to 9 and reducing the FSB to 400. Then set the reference and memory frequency to 333/1333. This combination still gives you 3.6GHz and DDR3-1600 but the board will like the 1:2 ratio much better.
Also, DDR3 memory is just as sensitive to overvoltage as undervoltage. Sometimes even the manufacturer's spec is a little high. Run Orthos or Prime95 Small FFTs to make sure your CPU is stable, then run the Large FFTs and tweak your memory voltage slightly in both directions to see if it helps.
Thanks for the quick response.
I tried 333/1333 as opposed to 400/1333 and my computer will boot and operate fine up to 380FSB which is 1520mhz on the memory. But at even 390 it Blue screens during boot with the PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA, also I went to 400 just for fun and then i recieved the windows failed to start with misc. file problems during a few boot attempts.
Also I did this without even taking the multiplier to 9 so my cpu speed was only 3.2 at that point. It's looking to me that my mem just cant run at its rated speed (which soesnt really suprise me a lot) since its just overclocked DDR3-1333 in reality.
Now running 400fsb with B3 cored xeon :)
Mem is 400/1066 <- going to be oced!
When i reach 450fsb i can say this mobo is same good stuff as maximus formula :)
I add screeny from my top fsb tomorrow.
Hi gtj, are you running 4x1GB OCZ memories at DDR3-1800? Would you please share your settings? I have hard time to run 4X1GB mem at 900MHz. Thanks in advance.
Send me chip which can handle +550fsb so i can test that... I don't think that is impossible reading :)
Btw if this mobo posts with light overclocks ur almoust at final stage. Cuz after that everything goes smoothly, mobo is easy to oc more and the most stable which i've ever tested.
I haven't seen any sigth of cold boot bug.
Best shot this far :D
Ok,
I was able to get to 333/1333 on my setup with the following settings.
CPU: QX9650
Mem: 4x Corsair DDR3-1600
FSB: 400
Mult: 9
vCORE: 1.2875
vFSB: 1.20
vMCH: 1.25
Ref Freq: 333
Mem Freq: 1333
Timings: 8-8-8-20
vDIMM: 1.82
I cannot boot to windows with 7-7-7-20 timings and 1.82v, but i "can" boot with 1.94v, but it fails OCCT in less than a minute. Whats odd is that I'm able to get to these overclocks without raising the FSB voltage and MCH voltage this time around.
I dont believe raising the FSB and/or MCH voltages helps my situation but I'll keep trying.
Damn it now i realised than there is no GTL reference settings in bios :F
But i'm going to sell this mobo anyways and buy Dfi x38 Lanpartys ddr3 edition :D
Damn, Nice problem between measuring programs :ROTF:
CPUz says than memspeed is 639Mhz
Everest, bios and BX38BT memcalc says it's 704MHz
http://www.peakin.com/x38/calculator...fsb=425&mult=8
Oh FSB is 425 and mem setting 400/1333 :D
Which to believe :rolleyes:
I've had a hard time getting consistent CPU-Z results, especially related to memory. I just ignore it now.
Pics of my DX38BT system, built in December.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6...8bt1vw3.th.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7...0014kw1.th.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3...8bt3we0.th.jpg
PCI-E x16 slots are situated too close together (about 5 mm clearance between these 3870s). Otherwise, no complaints are far as layout is concerned.
man, 14 pages of tech support for this board... :(
whats the maximum memory speed anybody has ever achieved with this board?
i didnt read through the last couple of pages, are the memory divider problems fixed now?
The Maximum memory speed I've been able to run to date is 1600Mhz, with DDR3-1600 Ram.. But I can get to with 450 fsb and a 5:3 divider (mem at 1500Mhz) and the result is 9600Mb/s copy in everest. Idefinately happy with that.
Hmm i'll try 400/1600 @ 427FSb :D that will be 1700MHz :D
E: added screeny from 435FSb and 1450MHz mem :P
Going slow but steady :ROTF:
My result:
Hehey 450FSB and 1.5GHz mem :D
Not bad all from sub 200Eur mobo and 200Eur mem :D
Damn i was able to post with 475FSB but rig wasn't enought stable because the temps :F
BTW Linux works with the Bonetrail ^^
I'm finishing up the Linux driver for the monitoring chip this weekend. It'll give you fans, voltages and temps that the coretemp driver doesn't.
Hmpf everything else works but not vlc audio output :F
Winamp and superpi works perfectly with wine :D
Haha i'm real jackass, u can't listen music and look movies with sounds at same time :ROTF:
so 450 FSB is still the max anyone has gotten so far? that's awful. i'm currently running an E8400 on my P5W DH Deluxe motherboard and i can run 425 FSB on it. i ordered a new Bone Trail because i wanted to go higher on my new CPU. to be honest, i thought 450 FSB would be my starting point. now i'm kinda bummed.
hopefully i'll get my parts next week. i'll post results as i get them.
CPU and memory are just much FSB limiters as is the motherboard. With an E8400 and good memory you may be just fine. What memory are you getting?
in for a penny, in for a pound. i was originally going to try and save a few bucks by going DDR3 1066 and running it at a 1:1 ratio. after reading through this entire thread, i decided to do it right the first time and ordered a 2 GB set of Patriot Viper Extreme DDR3 1600 7-7-7-18. i've revised my expectations and will now be aiming for 466 FSB.
based on what i've read, i'm hoping to run the memory 1:2 @ DDR3 1864 7-7-7-20 at 1.9 V. assuming my CPU will do 4.2 GHz on air, i should be golden. hopefully i'm not being too optimistic.
Hey i'm running Quad core and it won't take that much FSB than Dual core. Like i said it was possible to post with 475FSB but Quad is hot stone :D
I think it's possible to hit 500FSB with Dual core like ur E8400.
And usually the CPU, Memory (and OCer) limits rigs Overclocking :D
E: Now running 455FSb in linux :D 3.64GHz CPU and 1516MHz Memory, All Memtest86+ 1.70 Stable
E2: Spi32m stable :D
E3: holy crap look that everest result!
470FSB: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=304061
Mem is actually: 785MHz = 1569MHz
Could u add these results to first page?
Going to run wPrime soon as possible
E: Done
Wprime 1024: http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=692736
wPrime 32: attachment
okay, now i'm getting excited. if my little plan works, i'll only need 466 FSB anyway. it's good to know the motherboard will have headroom if i decide i need it though.
@ Randy2:
Thanks!
@ Everyone:
For those of you running this mobo and Vista - Do you use the built in Vista driver for the SATA controller (Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller driver.) Or do you use the Intel provided Intel Matrix AHCI storage driver? How stable is your system?
Hey guys, I'm building a system with the DX38BT and I can't get XP to install, your help would be really appreciated here !
My system spec :
- DX38BT Mobo (iflashd' in the latest 1397 bios)
- Q6600 Quad Core 2.4 (thermaltake 775d fan on top)
- 2 Sticks of Patriot 2Gb DDR3 1333MHz (PDC34G1333LLK)http://www.patriotmemory.com/product...&id=650&type=1
- WD Raptor 150Gb HD on sata0
- Other 500Gb HD on sata1
- DVD drive on sata2
- nVidia FX1700 512Mb graphics card in PCIx 16 slot 1
I put to whole thing together and started it up. I decided to run everything at default settings as everything appeared to be present in bios, more or less.
I put my XP pro disc and booted off it to install to the fast raptor HD. It got through the first part of the install ok. When it resets and boots off the HD to continue the install, midway though the 'installing drivers' part, I get the BSOD with this message :
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Stop : 0x0000000A (0,00000010, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x80515A86)
Beginning Dump of physical memory.
Physical dump memory complete.
It warns to switch off shadowing and caching in bios (how do I do that ?) among checking hardware and software updates..
To attempt to correct this, I updated the BIOS to 1397, restarted, same problem. I tried starting with only one stick of memory in the first slot and then alternated with the other, same problem. I tried installing to different hard disks (with only one plugged in at the time of install) still did not work. I have tried various mobo settings in BIOS like switching off all peripherals (sound, network), still same problem.
I noticed that the memory is not reported or running correct in the BIOS. The reported memory speed in the initial BIOS screen is 1066MHz. In memory settings, I have manually set the latencies to the manufacturer settings :
7-7-7-20 1333Mhz @ 1.7v. With these settings, the system will not start forcing me to use the mobo jumper reset. The memory will run 7-7-7-20 1066Mhz @1.7v. What is the reference frequency option in this menu ? I left it at default..I have run memtest86 in dos for 2 days, no reported problem with the 1066Mhz BIOS settings.
My guess is memory, motherboard or graphics card. I mean if it was the processor (correct me if I'm wrong here), I don't think I could have even gotten into the bios let alone halfway through the startup in windows xp . With that said I am going to try a friends graphics card to identify another possible error in this.
I'm looking for any help I can get toward getting this system up and running !
Any suggestions you guys have would be really appreciated !