AMD Radeon HD 6870 and HD 6850 confirmed to be launched on 22.10.2010

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10-21-2010, 07:49 PM
zerazax

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Originally Posted by tdream

When is Cayman due?

Within a month supposedly

Anandtech and HardwareCanucks hinted that Cayman has more changes, and thats why a lot of the juicy details aren't available yet
10-21-2010, 07:53 PM
Eastcoasthandle

The 6870 running at 8xAA is really impressive when compared to the 470. Also SSAA performance is a lot higher than the 470.
10-21-2010, 07:55 PM
Chickenfeed

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Originally Posted by zerazax

Within a month supposedly

Anandtech and HardwareCanucks hinted that Cayman has more changes, and thats why a lot of the juicy details aren't available yet

I'm very interested in these hints myself... I just hope the new parts provide the same improved efficiency seen with the 6850/70s. I don't care if its a 250watt part if its all buisness. Show me the money:up:
10-21-2010, 07:56 PM
zerazax

Since I run 2560x1600, if I'm going to replace my trusty 4870X2, it'll be with a 6900 series card anyways, but this has me more excited about the 6900's than anything

If Barts is GTS 450 die size, GTX 460 power draw, and GTX470 performance... what in the world will Cayman XT much less Antilles do given that Cayman is supposed to be a die larger than even the 5870??
10-21-2010, 07:57 PM
kadozer

Let the Cayman speculation begin. I think it needs its own official thread now.
10-21-2010, 08:00 PM
zerazax

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadozer

Let the Cayman speculation begin. I think it needs its own official thread now.

Good call... this one's already super long

Although given how much secrecy was around Barts up until these last 3 days, Cayman might be on us before we even realize
10-21-2010, 08:00 PM
cegras

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Originally Posted by SKYMTL

I take it you read the conclusion this time too? ;)

Some I agree with ... some I don't. At least I gave you my reasons!

Again, I find it almost ridiculous how nvidia is trying to do a price war when the performance isn't on the same level.
10-21-2010, 08:01 PM
zerazax

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Originally Posted by cegras

Some I agree with ... some I don't. At least I gave you my reasons!

Again, I find it almost ridiculous how nvidia is trying to do a price war when the performance isn't on the same level.

Well, ATI did the same thing with the 3800s (to a lesser extent) and the 4800's as well. Although in the case of the 4800s, the pricing more or less made the GT200's look absurd if nothing else.
10-21-2010, 08:06 PM
cold2010

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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

The 6870 running at 8xAA is really impressive when compared to the 470. Also SSAA performance is a lot higher than the 470.

DRIVER

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ATi Catalyst 10.6
ATi Catalyst 8.782 RC2
Nvidia GeForce 257.21
Nvidia GeForce 258.80 (GTX 460
Nvidia GeForce 260.52 (GTS 450

:down:
10-21-2010, 08:07 PM
Macadamia

I find it quite funny that Cayman, the larger chip, has more engineering changes than Barts.
On one hand it's kind of true with the 5800 scaling hitting a diminishing return (so Cayman needs it more) but on the other... bigger risk like GF100.

Outside of marketing, Barts and Cayman were probably parallel projects, one safety-netting the other. The latter was the real meat, the former feels more like a side-project to close the $200 gap.

BTW, history in the making, timelines reversed

Barts = RV770
GF104 = G92
GF100 = GT200

lowend RV770 => highend G92
highend RV770 = 192cc GT200, <= 216cc GT200
lowend barts => highend GF104
highend barts => 465, <= 470
10-21-2010, 08:07 PM
Daveburt714

If I ordered a 6870 from the Egg tonight and paid for Fedex Next day
do you folks think I would get it on Saturday? (just asking for a guess ;))

I have a local MicroCenter, but they always seem slow getting new gear and
I'm the impatient sort.....

Theres a Fry's about 100 miles away and they seem to get new stuff sooner.
I'm trying to decide whether to order from the Egg or drive to Indy over the weekend.... :D
10-21-2010, 08:08 PM
Sn0wm@n

can you link up your review skymtl ???
10-21-2010, 08:11 PM
SKYMTL

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Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

can you link up your review skymtl ???

Here is the link. It was posted a few pages back I believe.
10-21-2010, 08:18 PM
JohnJohn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daveburt714

If I ordered a 6870 from the Egg tonight and paid for Fedex Next day
do you folks think I would get it on Saturday? (just asking for a guess ;))

I have a local MicroCenter, but they always seem slow getting new gear and
I'm the impatient sort.....

Theres a Fry's about 100 miles away and they seem to get new stuff sooner.
I'm trying to decide whether to order from the Egg or drive to Indy over the weekend.... :D

Dude, Patience!!, i would have waited for cayman... a 6950 for 300 bucks must be a really nice thing to see
10-21-2010, 08:32 PM
Daveburt714

Honestly, Patience is not my forte' and I'm pretty tired of this 4870....

I also have a policy of not paying more than $250 for a VC, besides I'd be pretty shocked if the 6950 comes in ~$300 if the performance is as expected.
10-21-2010, 08:34 PM
zerazax

Well, if hints dropped on Cayman are true, there's more to Cayman that just a beefed up Barts
10-21-2010, 08:53 PM
Sn0wm@n

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Originally Posted by SKYMTL

Here is the link. It was posted a few pages back I believe.

didnt see it between all those other post .. but thanks man
10-21-2010, 08:57 PM
blindbox

Any chance guys who own the card can test the AF of this card (tunnel, whatever, I can't remember that link which did a thorough review of AF on the 5xxx and gtx 4xx and other cards)?

EDIT: Also, anyone mind to test eyefinity on new configs? I mean, does Displayport 1.1 work with the Displayport Hub, or hell, does it also work with daisy-chaining?

EDIT2: Anandtech did AF tests.
10-21-2010, 09:20 PM
Xoulz

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Originally Posted by kadozer

Let the Cayman speculation begin. I think it needs its own official thread now.

yeah..

imagine the 6850 with more rops?
10-22-2010, 12:28 AM
mutantmagnet

One thing I'm wishing to be clarifed is whether or not AMD's Eyespeed is a feature extension of PhysX
10-22-2010, 12:33 AM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by Xoulz

yeah..

imagine the 6850 with more rops?

It better have more ROPs, yep. Perhaps also a bigger tessellation unit?
10-22-2010, 12:44 AM
initialised

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Originally Posted by kadozer

Looks like scaling is fixed.

So the gain I saw in Vantage (95%) and Heaven (83%) are matched by real world BF:BC2 (94%) scaling gains.
10-22-2010, 01:15 AM
AKM

Looks like AF is finally fixed

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/a...ange-market/3#
10-22-2010, 02:53 AM
Eagleclaw

I am waiting on 6970 but very impressed with the scaling gains especially in my favorite game BC2.

I never even played single player (suppose I could Fraps) but hasn't it been said online play is ~>20fps more than
single player?

Quote:

Originally Posted by initialised

So the gain I saw in Vantage (95%) and Heaven (83%) are matched by real world BF:BC2 (94%) scaling gains.
10-22-2010, 03:28 AM
Motiv

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Originally Posted by SKYMTL

Here is the link. It was posted a few pages back I believe.

After reading a lot of reviews, I must say this one seems very balanced.

I can admit when I'm wrong, and this time I have been about canucks showing a bias towards Nvidia.

this review seems to be up there with the best.

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