GeForce 9900 GTX & GTS Slated For July Launch

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06-01-2008, 12:20 AM
LordEC911

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Originally Posted by Shintai

I think you are on a dreaming trip :p:

If its 50% faster you should be lucky. Still same amount of ROPs etc.

HuH?
If RV770XT is roughly about the performance of a 3870x2, you think R700 is only 50% faster than 3870x2? I thinking you are the one dreaming...

I love the fact you bring up the number of ROPs again. Hop off the misinformation train, please.
06-01-2008, 12:27 AM
jas420221

Instead of touching your e-p33ns togther...why dont you post links to what you (both) say??? Would a link to some facts of which you speak help your case out or do you (both) prefer to argue?

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Sounds like the old "R600 GTX killer" all again. Currently AMD products the last 2 years seems to have been hyped to the sky, just to fail so hard compared to the hype on release day.

Has R600 been out 2 years? I thought its debut was May 15th 07?

Besides, the X1900 series was a damn solid card. If it didnt have the performance crown over the 7900 series, it had notably better by most IQ.
06-01-2008, 01:00 AM
Nedjo

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Originally Posted by jas420221

Has R600 been out 2 years? I thought its debut was May 15th 07?

You're right! And when RV770 is finally out you'll see how amazing progress in terms of performance and consumption has AMD achieved in just one year!! :up:
06-01-2008, 01:05 AM
jas420221

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Originally Posted by Nedjo

You're right! And when RV770 is finally out you'll see how amazing progress in terms of performance and consumption has AMD achieved in just one year!! :up:

I sincerely hope they have a top notch card this round...no doubt!

Personally, I could care less about power consumption and performance /watt. Thats just marketing BS IMHO. I want competition, not significant idle power differences (I know this gen its going o be way different on load though).
06-01-2008, 01:21 AM
madcho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDoOV0FFPvA
06-01-2008, 01:33 AM
Hornet331

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Originally Posted by madcho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDoOV0FFPvA

lol i knew somone would post it, and quess how made this popular. *cough* charlie *cough*

On the other hand, i can also fry an egg on my 2400pro. :ROTF:

btw. charlie reminds me a lot to sharikou now. :p:
06-01-2008, 02:39 AM
safan80

I sure hope the gtx280 comes out on june 17th or sooner so i can step up.
06-01-2008, 06:39 AM
jas420221

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

lol i knew somone would post it, and quess how made this popular. *cough* charlie *cough*

On the other hand, i can also fry an egg on my 2400pro. :ROTF:

btw. charlie reminds me a lot to sharikou now. :p:

I first noted a video like that for the 2900xt... :rofl:
06-01-2008, 07:17 AM
eric66

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Originally Posted by jas420221

Instead of touching your e-p33ns togther...why dont you post links to what you (both) say??? Would a link to some facts of which you speak help your case out or do you (both) prefer to argue?

Has R600 been out 2 years? I thought its debut was May 15th 07?

Besides, the X1900 series was a damn solid card. If it didnt have the performance crown over the 7900 series, it had notably better by most IQ.

x1900 is faster than 7900 series especially in newer game its still kicking ass only card which was faster than x1900 was 7950gx2 after nvidia drop support for it x1900 took the lead thats what i remember
06-01-2008, 09:55 AM
shiznit93

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Originally Posted by perkam

The GTX 260 at $449 will be 25-30% more expensive than the 4870, and will need to be just as much faster to justify the price, as it brings with it no architectural, power or cooling advantages over the 4870. Not to mention that the 4870's memory bandwith will be higher than the GTX 260 if its GDDR5 Memory frequencies are high enough and will have overclockable shaders just like the GTX, so the 260 will not be amazingly more powerful.

Both cards should overclock well and though Nvidia has historically provided more headroom, this will be the first batches of the 200 series from Nvidia while ATI has been tinkering with the R600 based architecture for years now.

Hence my comment in the preceding post :)

Perkam

You forget that GTX 260 will a lot more memory and games like STALKER and Age of Conan can easily eat up over 700MB with more to come. By the fall 512mb won't cut it for highest texture quality.
06-01-2008, 10:19 AM
RPGWiZaRD

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Originally Posted by shiznit93

You forget that GTX 260 will a lot more memory and games like STALKER and Age of Conan can easily eat up over 700MB with more to come. By the fall 512mb won't cut it for highest texture quality.

That depends what res and AA+AF settings. I'm on a 19" CRT and using 1280x960. For higher res 1680x1080 and above in most demanding titles 512MB might not cut it though yea.
06-01-2008, 10:23 AM
Luka_Aveiro

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD

That depends what res and AA+AF settings. I'm on a 19" CRT and using 1280x960. For higher res 1680x1080 and above in most demanding titles 512MB might not cut it though yea.

It is not the first time Quake 4 and Crysis crashes in my rig due to Virtual Memory (512MB 8800GT) faults :down:
06-01-2008, 01:02 PM
Metroid

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Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro

It is not the first time Quake 4 and Crysis crashes in my rig due to Virtual Memory (512MB 8800GT) faults :down:

I came across with this problem many times. The way to fix it is, set the Virtual Memory allocation to exactly the same Ram memory amount.

Example: If you have 2GB set VM to 2.048. If you set more than you have let's say 4.096 then your system will slowly be dependent of the HD to override the memory address into Memory Cache. That is the reason games tend to crash, not always but some of the times.

Metroid.
06-01-2008, 01:29 PM
shiznit93

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD

That depends what res and AA+AF settings. I'm on a 19" CRT and using 1280x960. For higher res 1680x1080 and above in most demanding titles 512MB might not cut it though yea.

I'm referring to textures mainly. Modded Oblivion and STALKER can use over 700MB just for textures not counting framebuffer, which also goes up with resolution and AA/AF. In the Age of Conan beta, players with 1GB cards reported almost no stuttering.
06-01-2008, 02:58 PM
RealTelstar

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Originally Posted by Metroid

I came across with this problem many times. The way to fix it is, set the Virtual Memory allocation to exactly the same Ram memory amount.

Example: If you have 2GB set VM to 2.048. If you set more than you have let's say 4.096 then your system will slowly be dependent of the HD to override the memory address into Memory Cache. That is the reason games tend to crash, not always but some of the times.

Uhm I didn't know this.

Does it apply when you split the pagefile to different drives?

For general rule, the best performance with vista is attained with VM set to = ram on the system drive and the same to other drives.
06-01-2008, 03:38 PM
Metroid

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Originally Posted by RealTelstar

Uhm I didn't know this.

Does it apply when you split the pagefile to different drives?

For general rule, the best performance with vista is attained with VM set to = ram on the system drive and the same to other drives.

It depends where the application is being executed from. The cache will be created and will be allocated memory to that task. A higher Virtual Memory may help in some cases whereas a lower in others, to make the system more responsive to critical situations as it involves higher concentrations of cached memory, make a balance between them. The usual perception of this problem is very well seen when it is used with higher end GPU's as most of the shared memory may generate conflicts for their heavy memory allocation usage on some games.

Metroid.
06-01-2008, 08:04 PM
Lu(ky

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

lol i knew somone would post it, and quess how made this popular. *cough* charlie *cough*

On the other hand, i can also fry an egg on my 2400pro. :ROTF:

btw. charlie reminds me a lot to sharikou now. :p:

I bet you can fry a STEAK on this setup.. 4 x 9800GX2 setup temps reach over 100c.. :eek: You can see the video here ------> YOUTUBE Can you say SUPER NERD...lol

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/08-05...c_internal.jpg
http://fastra.ua.ac.be/images/CUDA_100C.PNG
06-01-2008, 10:55 PM
clonez

well, 100°C is still quite good for a wedged in card like that

i still wonder how those middle cards get an acceptable airflow...

edit: ah, prolly from the back :lol:
06-02-2008, 03:26 AM
RealTelstar

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Originally Posted by Metroid

It depends where the application is being executed from.

I keep my games and programs installed on the system drive which is the fastest), so most likely from the same drive(array) where the cache is, or from another one, in the same scsi chain.

I had some occasional stuttering playing AoC beta (avg 50fps) but i think was mostly cause of the server. I dont think at 1600x1200 it used more than 768mb of textures, but I could be wrong.

We're OT, but the PMs are not working, so I cannot ask to continue privately.
06-02-2008, 04:18 AM
PurpleMonkey910

What AA & AF levels will Nvidias top end card Have? will they both still be 16x?
06-02-2008, 05:20 AM
perkam

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Originally Posted by shiznit93

You forget that GTX 260 will a lot more memory and games like STALKER and Age of Conan can easily eat up over 700MB with more to come. By the fall 512mb won't cut it for highest texture quality.

Agreed. Though, again, it will be reflected in its real world performance and thus it will still need to meet the 25-30% faster test to be worth the money.

Perkam
06-02-2008, 05:30 AM
Miwo

That's exactly what has me on the fence. Its how much effect the extra memory has. Since I play on a 37" TV now, I need something that wont get eaten alive by running out of texture memory at 1920x1080. I was set on getting a 1GB 4870, but now it looks like we have to wait for AIB partners to do that, which might be a bit down the road. GT 260 is looking like a nice option, but will have to wait to see how all these new cards fare. Dual 4850s for the price of a GT260 isnt bad either, but again - lacking memory in higher resolutions with AA/AF may chew it up
06-02-2008, 06:54 AM
OBR

GeForce GTX 280 is in my hands ...! You can ask, but i am under NDA and i cannot to answer for every questions ...
06-02-2008, 06:56 AM
trinibwoy

That's funny considering you just broke NDA with that post ;)
06-02-2008, 07:03 AM
OBR

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Originally Posted by trinibwoy

That's funny considering you just broke NDA with that post ;)

You have to learn, what is NDA ... under NDA are some infos, many of them are not under NDA ... (or leaked) maybe i can to prove some ...

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