Why? A lot of us think that it will be a very hard time for AMD. But we have no new informations for AMD, and all we think know was widly discussed, so let people dream... :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
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Why? A lot of us think that it will be a very hard time for AMD. But we have no new informations for AMD, and all we think know was widly discussed, so let people dream... :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
Quote them after we will see it? Nobody say fake cause everybody had already seen Pentium M results. Stop trying rewriting history with something never exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
It's just aswell I was only planning on getting the 2GHz K10 so hopefully by years end i'll hopefully have K10+RV670+RD790 & hopefully for a reasonable price.
I am wondering though as to when AMD will "bump up" the clocks for the QC parts, hopefully it won't take them too long to hit the 2.6GHz that their "simulations" used.
Trust me LOL, there were doubters and some of them are posing on this forum and in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelJemka
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Originally Posted by DeathReborn
For K10+RD790 you'll need Phenom, not Barcelona (different socket). Phenom should arrive in December @ < 2.0GHz.
You're kidding right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sup3rman
You mean @ > 2.0GHz ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sup3rman
Some how I doubt he was jokingQuote:
Originally Posted by red
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/4...stars_list.png
but your roadmap seems false too...
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Hardware Upgrade: Can you give us some clues about the release dates of AMD’s new generation of processors for servers and desktops?
Giuseppe Amato: As for Opteron solutions, we have already made public the release date which is in September. At that time we will launch the new processors of the Barcelona family. As for the Phenom processors for desktops, the first samples of Phenom FX CPUs will be available by the end of the year, while the remaining versions of the family will arrive by March 2008."
@>2 ghz = greater than 2ghz
@<2ghz = less than 2ghz
For a december timeframe, I'd be betting on 2-2.2ghz for servers with perhaps a bin higher for a desktop single socket fx - but I'd be pleasantly suprised if we do see 2.6-2.8ghz products retail.
If all we see are 2.0 ghz cores then other in apps that can take advantage of four cores the 3.0ghz athlon x2 will perform better than the phenom x4. As such I think AMD would be wise to hold off releasing a desktop chip until it offers a performance benefit over the current lineup - servers would generally benefit more from the additional cores and so a release even at 'slow' speeds would be welcome there as soon as possible.
But as you can get a 6000+ so cheap now, why would anyone upgrade to a 2.0ghz x4 unless it was similarly priced? And if your looking at a new build I can't say that am2 looks all that appealing...
I disagree. AMD will have great sales because there are folks who will buy their latest and greatest no matter how it performs. If there are lower numbers of these, slow sales will not matter anyway. AMD will be able to even place a price premium on them and they'll still sell well enough that holding them back would be a mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by onewingedangel
However, AMD will need to work out the kinks and ramp them up to the point of just matching Intel and they'll do just fine. They might also start a reverse price war where they and Intel inch up prices. See RAM market for example?
Yea, although I am going to be interested in a Dual/Quad Barcelona server around the middle of next year. I just don't like half multi's, personal choice more than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sup3rman
RD790 does support S1207+ so they may use it for a server/workstation setup aswell, doubtful but a possibility.
Source: http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.p...=15452&catid=2Quote:
The release of the first K10 CPUs, the Opteron 2300 line-up is closing in fast and although AMD has talked a lot about it they have been reluctant to show off too many K10 CPUs. This 'issue' has been 'fixed' by the guys at oc.com.tw who have posted a first quick photo shoot of two Agena (Phenom FX/X4) engineering samples. The pics can be contemplated just below.
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/158...amples0ut2.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7...amples0sw2.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6...amples0qx5.jpg
LE: Thanks Red, the pins should have tiped me off :). They must be Agena then?
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/...spx?i=3006&p=5
They lie, Anandtech have shown 2, just waiting for proper BIOS/motherboard support.
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http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/AMDP...andsOn/2207033 Visually stimulating computer experience, awesome?
Guys! Pictures above are showing not Barcelona but Phenom CPU!!
Haven't you noticed pins!! :)
Besides picture form Anand is showing early Barcelona samples. No markings on heat spreader except 'AMD'. This mean they are for internal evaluation. Far from retail chips..
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2...cengsampy1.jpg
Agena benchmarks please :)
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gallery/a...ood-280245.php here is the permalink if you're into those kind of pictures. Babelfish says that they are 1.6GHz, 1.8GHz, B0. What else? Anyone speaks Chinese?
I got it in English and they are just talking about this press release.Quote:
Originally Posted by red
http://www.hothardware.com/articles/...in_NYC/?page=2
Don't shoot the messenger :p:Quote:
representatives from AMD said a top-to-bottom line-up of desktop Phenom processors, priced competitively in the marketplace, will be available in the fourth quarter of this year.
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Originally Posted by red
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Nice find red :up: !Quote:
Originally Posted by red
If now we only could steel that beta game and put it on Q6600 for comparison....
Made the rest of the story moot!Quote:
Perhaps the most interesting item on display - at least to us anyway - was AMD's Phenom powered demo system. We weren't able to ascertain the clock speed or run any benchmarks, but we were still able to glean some good information about the system and CPU.
I can see them not being able or allowed to run benchmarks but not being able "to ascertain the clockspeed"..Pluuuuese..If someone's going to BS me at least try to make it beleivable..Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
How difficult would it be to see the machines speed? 2 left clicks maybe?:shakes:
Just what I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
They were being supervised in case you missed the previous story with that AMD guy sitting behind them. And i guess breaking the rules would mean no more exclusives from AMD at the very least.