Also;
http://cdn4.wccftech.com/wp-content/...ce-635x434.png
AMD really need to get something out there.
-PB
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Also;
http://cdn4.wccftech.com/wp-content/...ce-635x434.png
AMD really need to get something out there.
-PB
What are the clocks for that 770? Massive jump, that's a 15% increase, no way that's the same as rumours of a 50mHz core boost and 500mHz memory boost. Those clocks would give maybe a 10% lead at most, which brings it equal to a 7970.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbagz
Yeah, I'm not buying those results for a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sushi Warrior
This year is pretty much written off for AMD at the high end.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbagz
However, if they can do a good job with their frame metering drivers, they can limp along by undercutting NV on pricing as they have been doing with intel in the CPU market.
They really should run with my closed loop cooler Platinum Edition card. You heard me AMD- it's time to resurrect the Phantom Edition name, and put out a water cooled out of the box 7970.
a. Gets people talking about your products again.
b. 10% more performance on the GHz Edition puts it at least in consideration with the 780. Currently anyone willing to spend over $500 only has NV choices.
And while you're at it AMD- put that closed loop on the 7990 and make it more competitive. Or throw in an FX8350 with the 7990 and keep selling it for $1000.. As they sell FX8350s for $200, and two GHZ 7970s for ~$800, that combo should still be profitable to sell.
If those results are true, I have to wonder if 770 is a detuned* 780. NVIDIA putting all 110s in the pipeline that don't make Titan testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
*Another cluster of cores disabled/failed
Man, your ideas are just TERRIBLE :rofl: The instant AMD decides it's a great idea to launch a water cooled GPU because you have the greatest idea ever I will start walking dogs for a living :D 7970GE already pushes Tahiti past the power efficiency curve, asking for MORE clocks out of it would lead to a Fermi problem for AMD. Hawaii really is not as far off as everyone thinks. Just think rationally for a minute before you get too carried away with "I told you so!".Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Depend the games used.. most of thoses games here are the games where the 680 is still really close or even faster of a Ghz edition ( AC3, BL2, Batman, FC3 ) .. + some otheir results are not even possible for the 7970 and 780 ( farcry3 ) untill they have completely remove AA. ( 65 and 71fps is 15fps more of what you see on review of the 780 ). On some other, the results look on paar for the 780 and ghz for the review.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Those 770 and 780 results are far closer than what I saw with an overclocked 680 and a stock Titan at 2560x1440.
Thats a very good point.Quote:
some otheir results are not even possible for the 7970 and 780 ( farcry3 ) untill they have completely remove AA. ( 65 and 71fps is 15fps more of what you see on review of the 780 )
My guess is that's because they used HBAO (better results with nVidia cards) instead of HDAO.
With HDAO mode activated + MSAA 4X 1080p, 680 and 7970GE perform almost the same in this game.
Do you chill the 7970's VRMs with water? Because they need it...I made custom sinks to cool my 7950's VRMs, I can run the core up to 1230 MHZ and keep the VRMs below 80 C even after hours of Unigine Heaven. As such, the card is stable for any duration of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Their graphs were accurate for the 780.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
-PB
1. If Gigabyte can get 1100MHz base clocks out of Tahiti, AMD can get 1200 with some binning and water cooling that pulls air from outside the case. Selling it at $550 makes it $100 less than a 780 and a "new" high end product. As GHz Editions sell for $450, that gives them $100 for a closed loop cooler plus whatever GHz coolers cost. (as you wouldn't need one of those with the water)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sushi Warrior
As the "GHz Edition" itself if a new cooling solution and some factory OCing, it's pretty obvious AMD likes ideas like "a new cooling solution and factory OCing" as a refresh, and I sent this to one of their staffers.
I really hope they make the card, because if they do, I'll buy a dog and have it kenneled in your city and pay you some tip money to walk it.
2. Nice source-less rumor "Hawaii is comin' soon!". :shakes:
3. The bundles of games are getting stale and the FX8350 bundle a. wouldn't cost much more b. if you took the seven games away and added the FX8350 the profit margin should be close c. you could give the option, game or chips to appeal to a wider base of customers d. giving people FX8350s gets AMD cpus in people's boxes
The fact of the matter is AMD is getting slammed in the high end GPU market, and slammed in the desktop CPU market.
They need creative ideas to sell the products they have to sell- not products coming 6 - 10 months from now.
1. AMD would be laughed into tomorrow for trying to sell a GPU with a WCing loop as a first party product. Sure, MSI or HIS or Sapphire or Asus or what have you could launch that by themselves, as with the "7990's" that came before the actual launch, but that's just a ridiculous idea for a first party product. It's just not something that makes sense in the market.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
2. Not a source-less rumour ;) It's not as far off as everyone is speculating.
3. Yes, the bundles are getting stale, but trust me, they cost AMD almost NOTHING to add in, an FX8350? Not exactly something you want to give away.
AMD is just recently getting slammed, up until now they were doing just fine, trust me they have not given up on the high end market, they just can't ALWAYS have the #1 chip, that is the nature of alternating releases from Nvidia and AMD. 7970 was beating 680 until Nvidia decided to release GK110, which isn't a huge profit leader for them in comparison to their Tesla cards (ie. given the bad yields of 110, they'd rather sell it as a Tesla card than as a Titan or GTX780). AMD will be kicking Titan's ass in a few months, and without becoming a GTX480 egg fryer either :up:
Creative ideas are often impractical. Makes no sense to rush a silly product out to market now when Hawaii is so close :yepp:.....
I don't see a single game that is unplayable with the 7970 GE. In fact, it performs solid enough to give a visually flawless performance in every single game... at a reasonable price I should add. So why, do they need to do something right now? They just need to finish fixing their frame latency drivers, then their original plan of using a smaller die size to keep prices down and competing in the high-end with dual GPU cards will be FULLY realized...that's how AMD has been playing it for a few years now. Nvidia should have always had the faster single GPU, but it took them until now to finally fix the thing. Everything thing is just back to normal...and I'm still going with performance/value. AMD has made all the right moves GPU wise, that's why they are in every new game system. Nvidia went with an insanely huge and expensive design that nets (Now Fully Realized) 15% more performance... and every game system developer told them no. AMD was wise to develop affordable GPUs, consumers now get great graphics on home game systems, tablets, MACs, and PCs at affordable prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbagz
Very soon, Crossfire is going to Actually work for the first time...ever...and 2 7950s costing $600 is going to outpace any $1K Nvidia setup. Nvidia wants to take the focus off multi-gpu setups because of this...because its finally going to be what it was suppose to be in the beginning. Now, if I was Nvida I would not have fixed or even suggested their was a fix for multi-gpu frame latencies. They kind of shot themselves in the foot here, because now AMD is already/going to fix it...and I've already got a big' ol power supply for running it. Kudos to Nvida. I mean they made a couple quick and dirty sales on their big boy Titan since everybody is scared of the frame latency problem with multi-gpu setups...but if the frame latency problem on multi gpu setups is getting fixed...then what's the point of buying a Titan or 780 when I can get ~150% or 175% their performance at 92% or 60% the cost (respectively) with crossfired 7950s when the driver gets fixed.
Of course at this moment, the driver isn't fixed and if you have 6 monitors to run then you probably can't wait to spend $ sensibly. You could have helped a kid out with his college tuition or paid someone to walk your dog but f-it, Nvidas been so good to you and is so hard up to make a sale go-ahead and give them the extra money, because i'm not going to... unless AMD truly can't fix their drivers, until then i'm giving AMD the benefit of the doubt.
P.S. Crossfire really sucks balls at the moment.
Nvidia hasn't had this sort of a lead in performance since G80 so no we aren't "back to normal".
I do agree that their prices are competitive at $350 and less.
There are also quite a few games that would be unplayable at 2560x1400 on a 7970 especially if you're like me and enjoy using SSAA.
It still remains to be seen if AMD hits the nail right on the head with a microstutter fix on their first try. I wouldn't bet on it. I hope that they do but I wouldn't make a decision expecting it. I still say 7950 crossfire is a hell of a deal even now. On a 60hz display that'll push framerates high enough to use a cap in the vast majority of games.
Have you used crossfire? In general it scales well. They've also been on the ball with new releases for quite a while now other than far cry 3 for some odd reason. The only real issue that I had was the microstutter which can be worked around. Since you use a 120hz display a cap really wouldn't be ideal for you.Quote:
P.S. Crossfire really sucks balls at the moment.
High-End PC's takes whatever software you throws at it without a flinch.
Played Skyrim in HD Ultra High and noticed the fans slowly rev up, so I wondering witch category of users top notch GPU's aiming at.
Well AMD has switched places with Nvidia so to speak, it went from Nvidia being power efficient and small (G80/G92) to AMD being the smaller die efficiency leader, and right now Nvidia has the ability to do both because of their Tesla line... I don't think it makes excellent economical sense to try to fight the Titan, but from a "brand image" point evidently the halo card really matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
The microstutter drivers fix the problems in any major game, at the cost of maybe 5-10% performance. No runts, no "dropped" frames (PS: FCAT is measure dropped frames wrong on AMD cards, it's not accurate...). Don't know why it isn't released though given it's current state.
We'll see what happens once its out in the wild. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sushi Warrior
Runts and dropped frames aren't the only cause of microstutter btw. That wouldn't explain the microstutter that is clearly there when using vsync. There are clearly timing issues aside from these runts. I'm very skeptical that they'll hit the nail right on the head on their first try.
Microstutter with Vsync? I don't ever use Vsync, could you explain what you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Runts are the only "major" issue with AMD cards though. If runts were entirely removed, Nvidia has only a marginally smoother experience, it's essentially invisible in a blind test. I think any other source of stutter is very, very minor and not really what makes crossfire considered as "broken".
Meaning gameplay isn't as smooth as it should be or would be with a single card. There is a reason that people have been using a hard cap for years to eliminate microstutter. Vsync alone doesn't do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sushi Warrior
I don't think that is true. They need to fix the timing issues that allow these runts to take place. These timing issues still manifest in other ways.Quote:
Runts are the only "major" issue with AMD cards though. If runts were entirely removed, Nvidia has only a marginally smoother experience, it's essentially invisible in a blind test.
You can't have a runt frame with vsync enabled yet it clearly isn't as smooth as it should be. There has to be some other timing issues.
Here is one discussion about it on Rage3d.
So the issue they are mentioning is input latency, not anything to do with frame times. I can't comment on input latency, but I can comment on frametimes. It's very difficult to record any kind of input latency, but frame timing can be semi-easily documented... Also those Vsync problems would presumably be fixed if the driver works as intended ("double rendering" would never happen, even Vsync'd frames would be metered).Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Another EVGA Superclocked ACX review: http://www.overclockers.com/evga-gtx...cs-card-review
Well, I guess we can just agree to disagree then...I don't have anything else to say on the matter except that I have used two 6950s in crossfire. Unfortunatley, at the same time I had also bought an FX-4100 for my gaing rig and I could never utilize more than 80% of my GPU power due to the FX-4100 bottle-necking the system. I couldn't return the CPU or the GPUs so I ended up just selling both 6950s on Ebay. As far as crossfire sucking balls, I was only referring to the frame latency issues when using crossfire...other than that Yes, crossfire works beautifully. I'm not buying a new GPU until AMD releases their frame latency fix. If they fix the problem then I will get another 7950. If they don't fix the problem, I will be buying Nvidia.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
My two turned up yesterday :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hokiealumnus
-PB
Some nice gains with OC'ing
http://anandtech.com/show/6980/nvidi...ocking-results
and no benchmarks yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbagz
Haha nah, waiting on Haswell :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
-PB
guys When GTX 770 Reviews will Launches?
2013/05/30?:confused:
NVIDIA launches are typically on a Thursday.....or at least they have been for the last few. ;)
Thank you my friend :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
I hope thoses number are fake:
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/1408/7707970.jpgQuote:
The figures presented below were tested on an Intel Core i7 3960X 3.3GHz CPU on an MSI X79A-GD65 motherboard with 16GB of DDR3-1600 memory under Windows 7. Nvidia's 320.18 WHQL and AMD's Catalyst 13.4 WHQL drivers were used to drive the Geforce GTX 770 and Radeon HD 7970 cards, respectively, with both cards running at reference speeds. All games were run at 2560x1600 resolution and all numbers are frames per second. More details on the benchmarks are listed in the appendix.
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...70-ghz-edition
Quote:
Nvidia's Geforce GTX 770 scores four wins over the Radeon HD 7970 GHz but it has to be said that titles such as Deus Ex are far from the bleeding edge of games design at the moment. In more contemporary titles such as Battlefield 3, Crysis 3 and Far Cry 3, the Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition card holds a marginal lead over Nvidia's latest Geforce GTX 770 card in the results we have seen.
What we have seen with these benchmarks is that Nvidia's Geforce GTX 770 will have to be priced close to AMD's Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition for it to have a fighting chance. However, gamers might be swayed by AMD's current ploy of bundling a number of games, which puts Nvidia's graphics card partners under some price pressure on the Geforce GTX 770. ?
Appendix
AvP Benchmark dx11 2560x1600x32 4xMSAA 16xAF texturequality=veryhigh shadowquality=high ssao=on tessellation=on advancedshadows=on
Battlefield 3 goinghunting 2560x1600x32 4xAA 0xAF fxaa=off msaa=4 quality=ultra
Crysis 3 swamp 2560x1600x32 FXAA 0xAF systemspec=veryhigh msaa=fxaa
Dirt Showdown nevada 2560x1600x32 8xMSAA 16xAF quality=ultra
Lost Planet Benchmark test_b 2560x1600x32 8xMSAA 16xAF dx11features=high dxlevel=11 RenderDetail=high textures=high shadows=high motionblur=on
Far Cry3 Blood Dragon outdoor 2560x1600x32 0xAA 0xAF msaa=0 quality=ultra ssao=hdao
Hitman Absolution benchmark 2560x1600x32 FXAA 0xAF texturequality=high shadowquality=ultra ssao=high tessellation=on globalillumination=on depthoffield=high fxaa=on reflections=high levelofdetail=ultra
Max Payne 3 benchmark 2560x1600x32 4xAA 8xAF waterquality=high reflectionquality=veryhigh texturequality=veryhigh shadowquality=veryhigh ssao=hdao hqshaders=on tessellation=veryhigh
Deus Ex benchmark 2560x1600x32 MLAA 16xAF gameaa=mlaa shadows=soft dof=high tess=on ssao=high
Metro 2033 dx11 2560x1600x32 AAA 4xAF quality=veryhigh tessellation=on physx=off DepthOfField=on
MoH:Warfighter connectthedots 2560x1600x32 4xAA 0xAF fxaa=off msaa=4 quality=ultra
Skyrim city 2560x1600x32 8xAA 16xAF quality=ultra Hi Res Textures=on
Sleeping Dogs benchmark 2560x1600x32 highxAA 16xAF aaquality=high highrestextures=on shadowres=high shadowfilter=high motionblur=high ssao=high worlddensity=extreme
Batman: AC 2560x1600x32 4xAA 0xAF DX=11 detaillevel=veryhigh AA=MSAA4 PHYSX=on Tessellation=high
Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X dx10.1 2560x1600x32 4xAA 8xAF quality=veryhigh
Riddick - Assault on Dark Athena demo1 2560x1600x32 4xAA 8xAF quality=high ssao=off
7970 is getting more wins that what I would have figured, but again just as expected, 770 ties 7970 at best. No way it's getting a convincing 5%+ lead. The "good news" is the price is lower I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
We all know that HD7970 GE is doing better than GTX 680 in 2560X1600 thanks to its superior 384-bit mem bandwidth.
GTX 770 is just a 680 with higher clocks so no need to dream about stellar performances.
In 1080p, a more popular solution, GTX 770 will certainly be on par with 7970 GE.
Depending the review and games used, i even expect to see it a bit faster ( 5 % maybe ), the 680 close or is faster of the Ghz in some games ( AC3 etc ).. now 5% more or less, it is really not something to argue about, because even driver perf and or zone used for bench vs benchmark can change this ofc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
770 also would have gained more traction than the 680 vs 7970 at 2560x1600 because of the much faster memory but similar core speeds... But yes, at 1080p they should tie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
According to Cowcotland, the GeForce GTX 680 will now cost €40 less, while the GTX 670 will receive a €20 lower price tag. That would make GTX 680 for €399 and GTX 670 for €339.
New pricing:
GeForce GTX TITAN – $999
GeForce GTX 690 – $999
GeForce GTX 780 – $649
GeForce GTX 770 – $449
GeForce GTX 680 – $399
GeForce GTX 670 – $339
http://videocardz.com/images/2013/05...e-GTX-7801.jpg
http://videocardz.com/images/2013/05/GTX-770-SLI.jpg
http://videocardz.com/images/2013/05...vs-GTX-780.jpg
http://videocardz.com/images/2013/05...rformance1.jpg
http://videocardz.com/images/2013/05...ifications.jpg
http://videocardz.com/42265/nvidia-a...-cards-roundup
More cores than what lol?
-PB
GTX 780 2304 CORE VS GTX 680 1536 CORE = 50% COREQuote:
Originally Posted by paulbagz
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeF...intro1_thm.jpg
GTX 770 1536 CORE VS GTX 670 1344 CORE = MORE CORE
http://videocardz.com/images/2013/05...e-GTX-7801.jpg
you need to see the full picture here mate :) , GTX 770 450$ will come Stronger than HD 7970GHz 450$ This is very good Deal
GTX 770 $400 WOW :up:
http://www.expreview.com/25861.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...Force_GTX_770/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...gb-review.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages..._review,1.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...view,3519.html
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...x-770-im-test/
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...force-gtx-770/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6994/n...gtx-770-review
But aren't stores selling them for $499? "Good deal" was $399, $450 was "well okay I guess"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
EDIT: $399! Good for everyone. Glad it's that price.
GTX 770 the new king here :up:
GTX 770 $400 VS HD 7970 $450 = The same performance
Again Good job nvidia:)
lol why didn't they show the performance increase from 9700gtx to 770gtx it will be more then %65.
anyway it is a very good card.
Good numbers and impressive value here @ $400!
Who would buy a 7970Ghz when there's plenty of regular 7970's still available for $350-380? It also makes little sense upgrading from 670gtx or 680 to a 770, you would be better off getting another 670 or 680 for sli.
If they were on 20nm then it would be interesting.
Agreed, NVIDIA is really putting the boots to AMD lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
Notices at the end of the Anandtech review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6994/n...-770-review/18
If this is true, the rest of the year leaves AMD tied for 3rd best single GPU card.Quote:
According to AMD’s last schedule they won’t have a new high-end part to replace Tahiti until the end of the year...for the GTX 770 and the 7970/7970GE, the rest of the year will be a battle of prices and bundles.
Nothing new, we all know they are going to release their next series later this year... ( Volcanic Island, or " sea Island )Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
From the same Anandtech article, i will not call that " a lot faster " ..Quote:
GTX 770 delivers 102% of the performance of 7970GE at both our high quality 2560x1440 and high quality 1920x1080 settings. Of course as with some of the past battles between AMD and NVIDIA in this segment,
On hardwarecanuck at 2560x1600 = 770 is 3% slower of the 7970Ghz .. ( and +7% of the 680 stock.. huum )
On some review more mixed, the 770 is between 2-3 and 5% faster.. ( depend the games used, like allways ).
on newegg there's allready MSI 7970GHZ BE at 399$ + 4 games bundle, other are at 429$ +4 games bundle.. ( some higher ).. in Europe, most shops got the 7970Ghz allready at the same price, or even lower for some models.
Im ok for the 780 .. but still.. this 770 was just here for close the GHZ at the same perf / and price. nothing more And in reality you dont have more of what a 680 FTW or a lightning, or DCII can offer or even just by push the TDP limit a bit on a standard 680 ( outside new memory chips and Turbo 2.0). ( cheaper, but like Nvidia have annonce too a price down of 680-670 today ( at least before they are EOL ).
Its not really different of what have done AMD with his 7970 to 7970Ghz move, but one year later.
So for someone who want a card at this price point and come from a 2-3 year older gpu, yes they will have the choice between the 770 and 7970Ghz, plenty of choice .. Problem is im not sure everyone who have wait so far will jump on it, just because it bring 6-7% performance more of the 680 for a bit less money... i have just to read reaction of 560TI and 570-580 users, they just will not jump right now, they can wait a bit more, and other have allready jump on different cards from Nvidia and AMD inbetween. ( this said, i know too peoples who think they can now they could change for it. and im sure they should sold well. )
Impressive reviews!
-PB
Not bad price performance ratio for the 770, I wonder if they're going to fill the gap between $400 & $650 with anything this year...
gk104 is pretty much tapping out as far as extra capacity goes so any filler would likely have to come from above if at all.
With what do you want they fill it ? outside decrease price of the 780 ... they have reuse the 680- GK104 with higher clock for this 770 (overclocked it ), and upper is the 780 GK110/TitanLE, they can maybe remove 2SMX more to TitanLE, but i dont really see the point for them to do it .. and they dont really need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
If i was a bit bad i will said, the EVGA 680FTW who run at 1150mhz stock boost ( and nearly 1200mhz real turbo boost if you are lucky on the binning without overlocking ) is allready fit this price at 560 $ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130794. ( But with new price annonced today, this one should drop to 460$ before be EOL )
At least for the past two generations there have been at least three sku's for Nvidia's top tier gpu, at the moment we have two which are Titan and the 780. Considering titan is not a fully enabled die its very possible we may see a higher binned part eventually, maybe or not. Also considering the number of transistors and the size of gk110 odds are there are a number of lower bin parts that don't even qualify for 780 specs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
There's definitely room for a refresh down the road for a fully enable gk110 and two harvested cut down variants.
The biggest point I see in them doing something is because theres got to be enough margin left in sales between $400 and $650 to still make money with a harvested core.
Also the low end and possibly main stream markets may eventually be largely replaced by embedded gpu's in the coming years, it's in their best interests to really push the market at the higher end.
anyone test gtx680 vs gtx770 at the same clock speed? they have made some massive improvements in power consumption and noise im just wondering if there is any small performance tweaks in there as well
There is no way to do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by dasa
The issue will become one of memory latency. The 7Gbps modules run at a higher latency to achieve their clock speeds while the 6Gbps modules on the GTX 680 use tighter timings.
Sure there is, nvidia inspector locked to performance level 2 to remove boost/turbo featuresQuote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Sky said that timing latency in new GTX 770 rams aren't the same. So according to him, it's not possible to only play on frequencies to compare this 2 cards.
sure it is, your timings will be slightly different but ram timings on GPU's are not a huge difference, and if you're worried about it you can do some bandwidth testing to find the point where they match up, which will be about 50-100mhz difference in this case.
how amd counter 770 ????
They added Tomb Raider to the 7970 bundle. (got the email yesterday)Quote:
Originally Posted by PatRaceTin
I don't get the point of testing 680s and 770s at the same speed. Not like anyone will down clock 770s, and it's the same chip. Power usually gets better as revisions climb, but I'm sure there's no appreciable performance difference in the two chips.
The 480s dasa has are a good example, the launch chips were much hotter/more power hungry than the last ones sold.
You are speaking about ram, he's speaking about core speed.. its not like 7GBS will make an huge difference, put an EVGA FTW 680 who run at 1186mhhz vs the 770.. you will get some surprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
And im sorry outside TPu who get totally incorrect TDP data ( lower of the 680, lol ), all sites are reporting a 20W increase, this in paar with the clock speed of the 680 overclocked to the 770 speed level. ( If Nvidia have set the TDP limit to 230w instead of 195w for the 680 they was a reason ).
little to see: the asus gtx 780 directcu II OC
http://wimages.vr-zone.net/2013/06/I...1-768x1024.jpg
( all i can see after the zoom: boost clock 941 Base clock: 889) not much as expected but there will be the directcu II TOP version still
they applied the fan (cool tech )they was talking about before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=totFkHQftaI
http://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/news/...ideo_cards.jpg
!Quote:
pricing to be expected to be around the $29
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/30813/...rds/index.html
Check out this bad boy;
http://cdn4.wccftech.com/wp-content/...on-635x516.jpg
Read more: http://wccftech.com/asus-unveils-rog...#ixzz2VJEYYIaG
-PB
I want to see the inside of the block/heatsink, awesome engineering if it really performs as they say.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbagz
One has to wonder if they had to sacrifice some cooling performance with this hybrid design.
Now if only they'd done that for some other really hot cards that have reliability issues due to poor heatsink design and QC..Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbagz
BoomQuote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
http://cdn2.wccftech.com/wp-content/...Poseidon_1.jpg
Thanks but I meant the actual inside...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu(ky
Like how the heatpipes are connected to the waterblock and the inside of the water block.
Yeah nothing up as of yet however they did say it was Copper on the inside (thank God) but they did also mention Aluminium on the outside, so not sure how that would work unless there's something in between?Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
-PB
Fun how GPU-Z shows your 780 as 780 Ti when you flash a modded vBIOS with higher PT and higher Clocks.
Maybe the changes on the Ti aren't even as big as most users out there expect :D