well i just had this board kill a second set of ram at 2.4v
id say 2.4v and micron rams is unsafe on this board
dives probly too high on it
well i just had this board kill a second set of ram at 2.4v
id say 2.4v and micron rams is unsafe on this board
dives probly too high on it
Damn... sorry to hear about the RAM :( This is why I'm scared to set my memory voltages over 2.20 or so.
On another note got a couple more screen shots of my OC results:
8 hours Orthos @ 3.42GHz (no air con):
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7...ghzloadax8.jpg
SuperPi:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2...superpibg7.jpg
I don't really follow SuperPi times much... is 15m 6s a good time for 32M?
interesting. blue slots are 1 and 3, right?
when my 1 stick of 10th anniversary died, it died in slot 3. the mem module no longer even showed up when installed (only showed 1 gig instead of 2).
since then, i've only used slots 2 and 4 and have not had any problems.
from what I have heard it seems slot 3 was a big culprit for this for some odd reason....it seemed to occur more often with vdmm of 2.3-2.4...as if the board was overvolt in surge fashion or something( i did see if I recall in the thread some have a stick die even at 2.2v in slot3)
what i find so concerning is the number of manufacturers saying 2.4v is ok on these D9 chips and yet so many are dying on different mobos
I saw OCZ changed there vdmm max on there memory recently with regards to warranty...no longer saying 2.4v is OK
I was running around 2.24 when my stick died.
The board also overvolts by about 0.03 volts on the vdimm as I've measured this with a DMM. I wonder if the vdimm voltage surges on startup. I've found that the vdimm on the asus p5n32-e sli plus goes up about +0.05 volts on startup.
finally got my board outa rma. can u guys recommend the latest bios ? i want to test some e6x20.
btw can i run desktop control center on win xp pro 64 ?
hmm... i disabled c1e in maintenance menu but idcc installation process fails while smbios driver installs.
no use Lome fix for disabling C1E...look for post #3339
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1176650542
on my revision 505 vdmm set to 2.0v= vdmm measure idle/load 2.01
I have not checked startup
does anyone know if i can move a stripe array from ich7 to ich8?
i got a dfi incoming
Holy crap, this is exactly what I have. I'm not pushing the FSB any, everything besides vDIMM is stock. I'm trying to get it stable with 532MHz/DDR2 @ 1066MHz 5-4-4-12 2T. (200 ref freq 800 mem freq)
I'm trying each vDIMM from 1.84 on up. So far I'm at 2.16 and Memtest86+ v1.70 keeps bombing out at different addresses.
Darn it, i cant get stable at 410fsb as ive just testet, 1,55-1,575 failed in prime by freezing up win after a few minutes....
Powerslobe on.
1,700 Vmch
1,450 Vfsb
1,525 Vcore (testing it now at 400fsb)
2,2V for the mems
I found out why the freezing in the bios occurs, it was my wireless logitech, when i plug in a usb keyboard i could get back again...
Havnt try'd the molex, but i was always told its only for gfx requirements, but ill give it a go when im out of options again...
Its a bit sad i need so much Vcore to get stable again at 400fsb on this board, but to hell with it if i get the last mhz i want it can burn in hell, intel dropped thier prices this week, so ill get a E6600 and see if i can have some more luck here...
I agree the gfx molex probably would do nothing but you never know it may add some strange stabiltiy
I plugged mine in from the get go...I have a 1900xt cf(single card) with pcie plugged in of course too
Are you OCing the 1900xtx in only 3D..I use ATI tool and set 2D clocks at default and 3D 675/800...not the great OC but not bad..very stable
anyone try the vmch mod for this board yet?
i'd really like to push the FSB on this board but i appear to be limited by the measely 1.7 vmch (aw9d-max gives you 2.0).
i can do 3.8 ghz stable smallfft at 423 but can't blend test. i am assuming this has to be the result of not enough vmch at 423 (though ram is very capable).
it'd be fun to push this thing to 450+ :)
Edit :)
Could be failing if you're trying to install or run IDCC after running RMClock or any other similar utility. Flat out refuses to load for me if I've already ran (and closed) any of those types of utilities.
Take that stuff out of startup and freshboot and it should go in OK..
So i just setup the rest of my system, it consists of the following:
E6600
BadAxe2
4 GB Gskill PC8000HZ
4 Raptors
X800XL
Zippy700w
I have tried 2 different PCI videocards and borrowed a WORKING x800XL from a friend and i get no signal on the monitor. Is the board dead? This is my first time trying to post. All other rigs in the house are ddr and 478 so i cant really swap and try. Any ideas? I have also tried clearing the cmos with no luck, i really hope the board isnt dead, dont want to RMA it as microcenter only allows exchanged for like 2 weeks or something
Just leave one stick of ram and see if it posts.
tried 1 stick of the gskill and still no signal on my monitor, tried both vga and dvi. Went out and bought a generic piece of ram to see if its because the gskill need 2.0/.1 volts but still no signal. tried just the ram cpu and video and still nothing. Everything spins up fine and when i had harddrives hooked up i could hear them working. Cant really test piece by piece either because no one i know has ddr2/c2d
it's a good thing you got that 2nd stick. try again.
i had the pc8000hz's and yes, they try to boot up at 4-4-4-5 ddr2-1000!!! with only default voltage.
you're gonna have to try to boot up with antoher stick, get into bios, adjust voltage to 2.1, change timings to 4-4-4, ref freq 266, mem freq 533 and then go from there.
Yup do what shimmishim said after moving cmos jumper into maintenance mode. Should work...
So i think i found the problem. 1. I had to use an old pure vga monitor and it booted! YAY but the graphics had crazy corruption, trying a buddies card tomorrow. Thanks for the info guy
Those people who achieved greater than 333 FSB 24/7 STABLE with a quad core and this board, please discuss your settings if you would. Does one particular BIOS stand out for the quads? Thanks.
Yeah, 266 atm. I actually got my quad to post at 401 FSB on my P5WDG2 WS Pro before but I can't even get close to posting at 400 on this board. The flip side of this is how stable this board actually is. I know my chip can do it, I just want to make sure I'm getting the right tweaks. FSB is just more important for quads, so I want to make every effort to get it.
And to be honest, 333 is a little dodgy. 330 is stable forever, but 333 can crash long-term under small ffts. And this happens when I lower my multi and downclock my cpu as well.
what I use with Q6600:
memory :
default
667
4-4-3-5 2.2v (dunno if your memory can do this, use your memory spd)
cpu : 3.4ghz
1.4vcore (+- depending on your cpu)
enhanced power slope enabled
vfsb 1.35
vmch 1.65
fsb : 378
334x9 is possible for me with default vcore/vfsb and vmch with powerslope enabled (YYMV)
important : a small fan over the NB (or some airflow over it)
Goodness me.
I just got an awesome chip - one of the new E6600's that are performing very well - and it's doing me some good... just one thing seems to be holding me back.
Around 1.45v running orthos (and higher vcore even, and lower) my system will restart without warning - Orthos doesn't bug out first, it just restarts.
Perhaps someone can give some guidance?
My vMCH is at 1.6v and my vFSB at 1.4... memory is 1:1 at 400 4-4-4-12 2.2v (very lax for testing purposes.) EIST and C1E are off, of course. :) The temps are under control for sure, 27-30 at idle and no more than 60 load. Does the BX2 have an automatic shutoff around 75 or something (from the temp reading under the socket?)
Any suggestions?
Do any of the new BIOSes let you up the multi on a QX6700? Need an answer quick!
afireinside if the QX6700 has unlocked multipliers, then the answer is yes.
gtj, just curious if your strap calculator is valid for all boards or only the bx2. thinking about trying out another mobo :)
what's the best bios for VISTA?
Well, the calculations will be correct but the other BIOSes don't provide the same settings as the XBX2 so things like "reference" and "memory" frequency might not have any meaning. The determination of the strap, which is directly related to the memory frequency, also won't apply to chipsets other than the 975X.
The latest.
Just finished my first intel build in a long time, Bad Axe 2, Xeon 3060 (L651B391), Thermalright Ultra 120, BFG 8800GTS 320MB, Corsair XMS2-6400 TWIN2X2048-6400C4.
First build ever to boot up completely trouble free on the first try, gotta say I´m impressed so far, quite the performance boost from my old Athlon XP and 6800GT.:eek:
K, managed to get the 333 strap to work with the quad, which wasn't easy, but not with the 5:6 divider (333 - 800) that I needed. I've found that this board often needs a complete BIOS default reset before it will change some of the settings, even when moving to a known stable config :confused:. This happens even when manually powering off the comp after any BIOS change too.
It was maxing out at 333FSB with the QX6700 so I swapped out for an E6600 which seems to have a lot less issues than the quad btw. Anyways, I've managed to get it to the 400FSB I needed with around 1.625vMCH. Damn shame you can't change to a lower multi with non EE chips though cause it's running a little toasty even under a Tuniq Tower.
Oh and using an IDE drive I was able to boot straight to windows with an OS installed on a 965 chipset mobo so that got around the inability to install windows issue I was having on SATA drives.
Haven't tried a clean OS install with this board yet as I'm worried it will crash just like the SATA drives :(
Same thing here. This is now the third stick of Micron memory I have had go bad on this board. The first two were running at 2.4V, and the last was running at 2.2V. Everything on board was stock voltage wise; the only changes in my BIOS were my FSB and multi settings. All three sticks have been in slot 3. :(
I've RMA'd my Teamgroup sticks once (see sig) and the replacements have recently started to fail. When I say fail I mean programs crashing randomly giving memory related errors, and the RAM failing memtest and Orthos Blend/RAM stress tests.
I'm going to have to ultimately RMA the junk I'm running on now, but I wonder how long this merry-go-round process will go on until I get some good ram?
I never gave them higher V than rated (2.2) and kept the timings within the spd range. I've tried all sorts of timing-loosening, upping vMCH, etc.
What's more: I've already RMA'd my previous badaxe2 which I thought may have been the original culprit in the memory related errors. The errors have continued with a new board! (on my previous sticks that I already RMA'd.) So, new board, new sticks of ram, same problem?
I can RMA the Teamgroup ram for the rest of my life. If I get another malfunctioning set of ram I'm gonna have to buy a new pair.
So my PC has been running great for weeks, until yesterday. Vista started crashing for no reason. Haven't installed anything (or any windows updates) so I knew it had to be hardware. Thought it was my memory, so I ran memtest86 for hours and hours, and it all checked out ok. Even worse, due to the crashing my user profile corrupted, so Vista started loading a "temporary" profile - such fun! Spent hours recovering my settings... if anyone is experiencing this, I have some tips for ya!
Bad news... it was my CPU. I don't know what's going on, but I had to up the voltage from 1.38 to 1.40v to make it Orthos stable again. It's been perfectly stable at 1.38v for many weeks, so now I'm worried. I remember hearing about processors that continually need more & more voltage to be stable - a sign that they're on their way out. I hope this isn't true!
Any advice?
Regards,
Sker
I've been getting the same problems with 2 different motherboards (both bx2's) and 2 sets of ram. The only thing that's been constant is the CPU. I'm wondering whether my problems also come from my CPU. If more info is available on this I would also be interested.
Those of you who are having memory/stability problems and are using "rated" voltages - have you tried putting a fan over the dimms? Or even get some air moving over the NB? I mean, just by getting some direct airflow over there will increase stability by a LOT.
does the ocz ram cooler fit on the xbx2? I have both sitting next to me and i cant seem to get it to fit with an x800xl on there, what have you guys done to get it to fit?
Nope. But the Corsair one does. :)
I just do not think the Corsair unit(I have it moves much air)
I have this now on lowest setting..very quiet
http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...rd_Cooling_Fan
so the corsair cooler will work for sure? thats what i heard about the xtc but it ended up not working.
Yes it was at 333x9 w/ 1.38v. CPU was mostly sitting at 2.0ghz (not much load). Temps are usually about 47c idle (always seemed high to me btw, but I figure as long as it's under 60, I'm happy). It was Orthos stable at 1.38 for hours... but no longer. At that voltage Orthos would fail instantly or the system would crash. Wish I knew why!
I have a 40mm fan over my NB as well... and a big case with 120mm fans.
- Sker
I understand everyone's definition of a stable overclock is different but I have had several overclocks crap out out at 10hrs(esp on my AMD processors) so I try to make sure it is at least 12hrs now....( I used to use large fft but I have not switched to Blend)
So I wonder if you were really stable at 1.38v....
BTW recently I found a real quick test of cpu stability on my C2D..3Dmark05 cpu test 1 & 2 ....I have found if my vcore is too low this will reboot winxp....these tests take 3 min to run, if I fail I will need more vcore for a stable setup
Hi all,
Maybe someone can help me determine if I was sent a used or RMA'd motherboard. I just received my Bad Axe 2 retail (975XBX2KR) from Microcenter, and I noticed the packaging was kinda scuffy looking. No big deal I thought, and I opened up the retail box and saw that the cables, I/O template, manual and disks were all just rattling around free in the upper part of the box (seperated from the motherboard by cardboard). Nothing was individually wrapped or secured aside from the motherboard itself and the usb add on riser (which were both sealed in anti-static bags). No added cushioning either.
I'm guessing all this is normal, but it seemed odd for a premium board's retail kit, and I just thought I'd ask.
Well I got my BX2 a few days ago.
Put everything together, NZXT Zero Case, Silverstone 560 Zeus PS, 2 gigs DDR2 800 Firestix, C2D e6600 (L706A499, 4/3/07), Enzotech Ultra-X CPU cooler, XFX GeForce 7900GS, 16X Lite-On Sata DVD Burner, 1ea. 250 GB Seagate Sata II and 1ea. 320 GB Seagate Sata II hard drive.
My goal is a relatively modest and stable 3.2 gHz out of the 6600.
Initial assembly was not a problem thanks to this thread (All of which I've read).
Unfortunately on initial boot the monitor showed only a few seconds of video signal and went blank. The board posted but couldn't find a boot device (there was none at the time).
I powered down, unplugged and waited a few seconds and tried again. I attempted to get into the BIOS this time. The screen flashed a couple of times and came up in the BIOS screen completely garbled. It was unreadable. Again I shut down to check that the Video card was properly seated in the Primary 16X pci-e slot and that the PCI-E connector from the PS was firmly attached. All was good connection-wise but from that point on I never again got another video signal from that card.
I didn't have another pci-e video card so I dug up an old S3 pci video card from many years ago (I knew there was a reason I held on to that thing). I was able to get a video signal and entered the BIOS to make sure that everything was being properly recognized. Everything looked OK.
I figured I would use my trusty Partition Magic 7.0 boot floppies to partition and format my hard drives. That was accomplished without incident.
I had a buddy of mine bring over his Box that contained a working GeForce 7600GT. I installed the 7600GT in my board and it worked great. I installed my 7000GS into his box and again there was no Video Signal.
So my build has hit a delay as I have RMA'd the video card as DOA.
I'm almost 100 percent certain that my problems reside with a faulty video card (Though I've learned that nothing is certain with computers). My guess is that the auxiliary pci-e power connector on the video card is bad since the card was acting like it wasn't getting enough power. My Silverstone PS is SLI-ready with 2ea. pci-e connectors and neither one made a difference with the video card (I have not checked the pci-e connectors with my multimeter yet so I guess it's possible that I have a bad PS). I didn't think to check the power supply until I had sent back the card.
Can anybody suggest another cause for my problem???
I'm hoping the replacement will function and I can get on with my life.
It figures, my first complete new build in about 6 years and I get a bum video card.
I just hope my chip is a good clocker.
Hey guys, what are the tips to pushing RAM on this board? :confused:
I'm using an E6600 which is good up to 400FSB on this board 8 hours orthos stable but I'm having real difficulties getting my RAM over DDR1000.
I'm using the 1066 strap and 2:3 divider.
I've increased vMCH, vFSB, vdimm and tried different CAS values but nothing seems to be able to get it stable higher.
It's good RAM, I've got it running 507Mhz 4-4-4-4 at 2.12vdimm so I know it's got alot more in it. This is damn frustrating :(
I received my board from mwave as well. Other motherboards I've purchased have been laid on a bed of foam.
I also noticed that the board was made in China...not surprising really, but I'm a little leary of quality control. The other motherboards I've owned (Abit, Epox, Albatron) have been manufactured in Taiwan.
Taiwan is the worst place to make electronics. every appliance i had that broke had "Made in Taiwan" on it.
Just booted up a brand new XBX2. Even at stock settings the NB sink is darned hot. I cant touch it for more than 30 secs :eek:
Is that normal? The mind boggles at how hot its going to be when I start to OC ;)
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Nope I havnt done anything to the NB heatsink.
I did use it as a "handle" to help manoeuvre the mobo into the case. I later saw in the manual that Intel says NOT to do this in order to not damage the NBs TIM ;)
Perhaps I have damaged the NB TIM ... it really is very hot. Although if I damaged the TIM the heatsink should actually be cooler i.e. heat isnt flowing from the chip to the heatsink as effectively. In that sense a hot heat sink is a good sign.
Should I take off the NB heatsink and redo the TIM with AS? :confused: i.e. have others found the stock TIM to be poorly applied.
The CPU itself seems to run fine at stock ~ 45*C with an Artic Freezer 7.
replace the TIM as sucks anyways atleast for overclocking.
Hi
Just picked up a Q6600 for my BX2.. one issue so far:
I`m in maintenancemode, but i can`t find how to disable "watchdog"? Where is it?
I suggest using the 2333 bios instead
here is something interesting:
I have the XBX2 with the E6600, I'm overclocked at 3.4. My idle temp were always around 44-46 and my fans were always a little loud. So, I went in BIOS and disable all the fan controls (CPU and system fan control). Then I noticed that one of the fans wasn't running constantly anymore, and my temp dropped to 40-42. Also the full load temp are never beyond 56. My case has 2 fans, rear and front and my CPU has the Tuniq Tower on top of it. I have the Tuniq fan set to max, but honestly I'm not sure if that's the loud fan that comes on once in a while, I can't figure it out. The interesting part is that the loud fan seems to be kicking in only when I launch Internet Explorer. I tried tons of other applications and it seems that only IE triggers it. It stays on for a while and then it goes silent again or maybe it just spins at a lower speed, not sure, but my whole rig is quiet then.
Any idea guys if this is normal? Should I let the CPU and the system control the fans?
So far I`m at 3.150 ghz with my Q6600. Prime stable 4 hours def vcore.. in XP..
I decided to instal Vista 64, but during the instal I got random bluescreens. :stick:. i tried running everything at default, but still bluescreens during instal...
Is there a known issue with B:confused: X2 and Vista
When are we gonna get usable multipliers other than the default one?
guys my SB on my XBX2 is getting pretty hot.. is that normal?
Just download the 2692 BIOS in the .EB file extension direct from:
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...ndent&lang=eng
Run it right out of Windows, like I did.
Andrew
New IDCC for Vista 32-bit.
http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd...c/download.htm
in my desparation i tried it with my xp64. weird thing is that i was even able to install it, unlike to xp32 version. to start it was a different thing though. :(