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03-14-2011, 01:45 PM
getyasome

I'm almost for sure all the new P8P67 Deluxe / Pro / EVO / Sabertooth / P8H67-M EVO / Standard B3 boards will come with 1305 bios and you can not flash back to any other bios as for the B3 Microcode in the new Chipset.

The 1305 is OK for now , Sure it still needs help but it works fine and all we can do as with any new Tech that hits the market is wait.:eek:

Maximus IV Extreme

Official Release - UEFI 1204 It will be on our Asus support site in a few days. As per Asus rep @ hardforum..
03-14-2011, 03:23 PM
danielkza

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeetMiniWheat

another small annoyance about this board is that the CPU fan header will only scale fan speed back with a 4-pin plug supporting PWM. It can't scale back by "voltage" like gigabyte has an option for. but the chassis fans do. although the minimum they can run at is 60%, whereas gigabyte can go as low as 30%. (but it only supported CPU fan speeds, no other fan ports) so I need to go rewire my case now >.< also, I'm still really impressed with the software but the auto-overclocking tool had my CPU up to 1.5v and 1.6v!!! OUCH!!! there should be a way to set an upper limit to voltages or temps, as it had my CPU up to 96c at one point. are they trying to fry peoples chips?

my B3 Deluxe came with the latest 1305 (dated 2/11/2011), I'd assume the sabertooth would too.

You can get full control of the fans by using SpeedFan, you can even stop the ones connected to the two chassis headers.
03-14-2011, 04:32 PM
LeetMiniWheat

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielkza

You can get full control of the fans by using SpeedFan, you can even stop the ones connected to the two chassis headers.

changing Speed01, Speed02, Speed03 in SpeedFan doesn't seem to change fan speeds at all. tried with/without AI Suite II running.

have you actually tested SpeedFan with this mobo and it works?

Edit: trying latest beta, maybe this will work

Edit2: latest beta detects Nuvoton sensor, but fan speed still seems locked to whatever the BIOS or AI Suite has configured. (whether it'd disabled 100% or temp controlled).

maybe I'm still doing something wrong. in any case, without further going off topic... thanks! I may eventually figure it out. but It seems like Asus has fan controls locked to BIOS/AI software only.
03-14-2011, 05:22 PM
danielkza

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeetMiniWheat

changing Speed01, Speed02, Speed03 in SpeedFan doesn't seem to change fan speeds at all. tried with/without AI Suite II running.

have you actually tested SpeedFan with this mobo and it works?

Edit: trying latest beta, maybe this will work

Edit2: latest beta detects Nuvoton sensor, but fan speed still seems locked to whatever the BIOS or AI Suite has configured. (whether it'd disabled 100% or temp controlled).

maybe I'm still doing something wrong. in any case, without further going off topic... thanks! I may eventually figure it out. but It seems like Asus has fan controls locked to BIOS/AI software only.

You need to go in Configure->Advanced->Nuvoton chip and set all PWM Modes to manual.
03-14-2011, 05:57 PM
LeetMiniWheat

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielkza

You need to go in Configure->Advanced->Nuvoton chip and set all PWM Modes to manual.

Sweet! Thanks! I'll try it out when I'm done stressing. If this lifts the 60% limit on fans, I'll be very happy. I wonder why Asus set lower limits like that? the bios says the number is out of range when you try to set anything lower, and AI Suite II doesn't let you set below 60% either. odd.

either way, good looking out. appreciate it :D
03-14-2011, 07:01 PM
danielkza

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeetMiniWheat

Sweet! Thanks! I'll try it out when I'm done stressing. If this lifts the 60% limit on fans, I'll be very happy. I wonder why Asus set lower limits like that? the bios says the number is out of range when you try to set anything lower, and AI Suite II doesn't let you set below 60% either. odd.

either way, good looking out. appreciate it :D

This Nuvoton chip seems to be able to scale the voltage for the fans all the way from 0 (or something very low, all the fans I tried stopped at 0%) to 12V. I believe ASUS deliberately set the minimum to 60% = 7V to make sure no fans will go below their start voltage and stop spinning. Less tech-savvy people (me too if I were one of them) would not be satisfied if they tried to get some silence and ended up cooking up their system because their case fans had shut down.
03-14-2011, 10:43 PM
kidsafe

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielkza

You can get full control of the fans by using SpeedFan, you can even stop the ones connected to the two chassis headers.

Seems that I can control the CPU and CHA headers but not the ones labeled PWR on the Deluxe board. Set all three PWM modes to manual.
03-15-2011, 07:00 AM
LeetMiniWheat

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidsafe

Seems that I can control the CPU and CHA headers but not the ones labeled PWR on the Deluxe board. Set all three PWM modes to manual.

PWR Fan1 isn't connected to the nuvoton chip I believe. it even says in the manual that only CPU fan and Chassis fan are controllable. (1 CPU header, 3 Chassis fan headers)
03-15-2011, 09:29 AM
dansus

Lets put this another way..

Looking for new board, want 4.8 -24/7 for encoding, can i get away with the P8P67 Pro or will the Evo/Deluxe be needed?

Thanks.
03-15-2011, 11:12 AM
LeetMiniWheat

Quote:

Originally Posted by dansus

Lets put this another way..

Looking for new board, want 4.8 -24/7 for encoding, can i get away with the P8P67 Pro or will the Evo/Deluxe be needed?

Thanks.

K series overclocking benefits on different ASUS P67 motherboards

Quick Note Regarding Motherboard Stack – What does going higher in the board stack provide overclocking wise?
ASUS’ entire line of P67 motherboards features a class leading and high performance Digi+ VRM implementation that allows for superior overclocking performance; there will be differences between boards.
While our entire board lineup has been internally tested to fully support K series processors, when overclocking in multiplier ranges of 50 to 54x the higher end boards will benefit in two key categories.
1. Better Vdroop efficiency.
2. The ability to help drive and sustain a 50+ high load Overclock under maximum loads. Examples of boards that focus on this level are our Deluxe, WS, SABERTOOTH, and Maximus IV Extreme

Source

In short, I think pro is fine. 12 phases is still overkill IMO. I only bought the Deluxe because no pro's were in stock. so if you don't need the front panel USB3, get the pro if you can find it.
03-15-2011, 11:20 AM
Darkstormz

Anyone got any P8P67 WS Revolution experience? Thinking of replacing my B2 stepping Deluxe -> WS Revolution B3
03-15-2011, 04:22 PM
crossg

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Originally Posted by crossg

Replaced my board with the revised board and it is quite different with the offsets and voltages. It still OC's well but I'm getting consistant BSOD's (0x9C) with everything at default settings about 10 minutes apart. Runs prime and LinX no problem. Hope I don't have to replace the board again.

Just an update. After 40 or so BSOD's I replaced the board and no further issues. When the old board went into EIST the core voltage would drop to 0.828 and I think that was not enough when it asked for power again. (Just a guess). New board EIST voltage is 0.920 and running fine so far.
03-16-2011, 12:49 AM
kidsafe

Quote:

Originally Posted by crossg

Just an update. After 40 or so BSOD's I replaced the board and no further issues. When the old board went into EIST the core voltage would drop to 0.828 and I think that was not enough when it asked for power again. (Just a guess). New board EIST voltage is 0.920 and running fine so far.

This is exactly the behavior I'm seeing with my new board...way lower speed-stepped voltage at default settings. Mine would dip to .85V or maybe a little lower.
03-16-2011, 06:25 AM
natedog420

when you guys did the rma did you keep the sata cables or anything else in the box and not get charged for it? im doing a advanced rma and was wanting to know
03-16-2011, 07:57 AM
LeetMiniWheat

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielkza

You need to go in Configure->Advanced->Nuvoton chip and set all PWM Modes to manual.

Update on the nuvoton fan controller. manual (and of course automatic) control on CPU_FAN seems not to work at all without a 4-pin fan. speed becomes stuck at 100%. the rest of the CHA_FAN plugs work fine with automatic and manual though. gigabyte's boards have an option to change between "voltage" or "pwm" to avoid this issue, so maybe it's a limitation of the nuvoton chip.
03-16-2011, 10:41 AM
LeetMiniWheat

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeetMiniWheat

Update on the nuvoton fan controller. manual (and of course automatic) control on CPU_FAN seems not to work at all without a 4-pin fan. speed becomes stuck at 100%. the rest of the CHA_FAN plugs work fine with automatic and manual though. gigabyte's boards have an option to change between "voltage" or "pwm" to avoid this issue, so maybe it's a limitation of the nuvoton chip.

and after an hour of re-routing fan wires, I discover that the CPU_FAN plug won't even read RPM readings from a single wire. apparently it only reads RPM if ALL the wires are there? What kind of BS is that? so now AI Suite's monitor program can't be used since it complains about CPU Fan 0RPM all the time. very disappointed in Asus. how do you screw up such a simple thing? /end rant
03-16-2011, 11:35 AM
Brahmzy

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeetMiniWheat

and after an hour of re-routing fan wires, I discover that the CPU_FAN plug won't even read RPM readings from a single wire. apparently it only reads RPM if ALL the wires are there? What kind of BS is that? so now AI Suite's monitor program can't be used since it complains about CPU Fan 0RPM all the time. very disappointed in Asus. how do you screw up such a simple thing? /end rant

So exactly what type of 120mmx38mm fan would I need to buy to have the mobo control it's speed per CPU temp?
03-16-2011, 11:58 AM
LeetMiniWheat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brahmzy

So exactly what type of 120mmx38mm fan would I need to buy to have the mobo control it's speed per CPU temp?

4-pin, aka a PWM fan will work perfectly fine. but you could just plug a standard 3pin fan into any of the chassis fan headers, those work fine too but make wire-routing more difficult. (there's one above the PCI-E 1x slot and one at the very bottom of the board. the PWR_FAN plugs aren't controllable)
03-16-2011, 01:49 PM
LeetMiniWheat

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeetMiniWheat

and after an hour of re-routing fan wires, I discover that the CPU_FAN plug won't even read RPM readings from a single wire. apparently it only reads RPM if ALL the wires are there? What kind of BS is that? so now AI Suite's monitor program can't be used since it complains about CPU Fan 0RPM all the time. very disappointed in Asus. how do you screw up such a simple thing? /end rant

disregard my above rant. CPU fan plugged into a CHA_FAN header with single RPM wire going into CPU_FAN works fine. so this is a great workaround for people with a 3-pin CPU fan. my problem was the extension wire I used was grounding into the RPM reporting wire. (poor design)
03-16-2011, 02:43 PM
McLaren__F1

Heres some testing with my New B3 board

http://i55.tinypic.com/15hxyfa.png
03-16-2011, 02:56 PM
getyasome

Nice Mate 17+ hrs You know for sure that's stable , heck everything well 85% of the Overclocks I've tried fail 2 hrs into prime. I'm close but not quite hit the right set up yet..:confused:

What were your Bios settings ?

BLCK Freq:
Turbo Ratio: Enabled (All Cores)
By All Cores:
Internal PLL OverVoltage:
Mem Freq: (AS PER YOUR RAM)
EPU Power Saving:

Load-Line Calibration:
VRM Freq: Manual
Phase Control:
Duty Contorl:
CPU Current Capability:
CPU OverVoltage:
CPU Offset:
DRAM Voltage: (AS PER YOUR RAM)
VCCSA Voltage:
VCCIO Voltage:
CPU PLL Voltage:
PCH Voltage:
CPU Spread Spectrum:
03-16-2011, 03:09 PM
danielkza

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeetMiniWheat

disregard my above rant. CPU fan plugged into a CHA_FAN header with single RPM wire going into CPU_FAN works fine. so this is a great workaround for people with a 3-pin CPU fan. my problem was the extension wire I used was grounding into the RPM reporting wire. (poor design)

You could also disable the monitoring of the CPU fan in AI Suite to silence the warnings and forgo the extra wire altogether.
03-16-2011, 03:12 PM
McLaren__F1

Hey getyasome, i seen you around on OCN and HOCP ;)

BLCK Freq: 100
Turbo Ratio: Enabled (All Cores)
By All Cores: 46
Internal PLL OverVoltage:
Mem Freq: 9-11-9-24-2N
EPU Power Saving: OFF

Load-Line Calibration: Extreme
VRM Frequency: Manual
VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
Phase Control: Extreme
Duty Control: Extreme
Current Capability = 100%

CPU Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 1.6
VCCSA Voltage: Auto
VCCIO Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
PCH Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
03-16-2011, 03:27 PM
getyasome

McLaren F1 Thanks for the reply Mate. That's about the same as I used on the recalled board 1.31v straight voltage , I might kick the + offset voltage to the curb for now and go with that again .. Heck I'm trying everything :D.. Me and Mr. CMOS have become good friends..

It's use more of a + offset with Regular LLC , Or a Medium LLC with a much Lower + offset voltage as they = all most the same, give a bit higher voltage with the first one, but I'm close.. Nothing more frustrating than keep checking Prime and you think u hit it and 2hrs in it fails.. LMAO But that's life.

Thanks Again Mate.:up:
03-16-2011, 03:59 PM
McLaren__F1

Yeah i see alot of users using the offset with Regular LLC, I have yet to play around with that.

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