X48 Rampage Formula Preview.

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

What RAM do you have?

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I'm using the RAM in my sig. The 1066MHz G.Skills

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Some of your settings are off. To get a higher TREF, you'll have to revert to bios 0308. 0219 also has a higher TREF. Under hardware, what voltages is your bios reporting?

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So I should downgrade the BIOS to 0308 for the tREF. No problem.

Here's the voltages as reported by BIOS in the Hardware Monitor section:

CPU Voltage = 1.392V
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.568V
FSB Termination Voltage = 1.504V
DRAM Voltage = 2.144V
North Bridge Voltage = 1.648V
South Bridge Voltage = 1.136V
SB 1.5V Voltage = 1.648V
DRAM Controller Voltage REF = 1.072V
3.3V Voltage = 3.296V
5V Voltage = 5.040V
12V Voltage = 12.208V


I'll get back with any changes after I downgrade my BIOS.

THANK YOU for all of your help!! I can't wait until I have this thing stable and can stop bothering you guys.

EDIT: Updated Voltages to what I have set up now.

EDIT (2): So far, with 0308 BIOS, the updated voltages and mem timings fixed as instructed by Zucker2K, I've gone the longest on Prime95 so far. I've gone 20 minutes with no errors. :clap: I'm going to let it run overnight and hopefully I can sleep through the anxiety of wanting to check how it's doing every 20-30 minutes :wth: :lol:

I'll report how it does in the morning.

EDIT (3): Well, it BSODed about an hour into the Prime95 run. I can't complain about that, it's MUCH better than anything I've run before. I'm going to try bumping that Vtt up to the full 1.520 you suggested, Zucker2K. Hopefully that will be what I need.

EDIT (4): With Vtt at 1.520V, I BSODed in about 10-15 minutes. Not sure where I can tweak this to get that full stability.

Hey guys, I am considering getting this MB, but don't know which RAM to get for it.

Here are some options please tell me which you think will be better

1 - OCZ Reapers 4GB kit PC8500 (OCZ2RPR10664GK)

2 - Corsair PC8500 4GB kit (TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF)

3 - Team Group PC8500 4GB kit (TXDD4096M1066HC5DC-D)

I'm in Australia and these are the best options at the place I'm buying from. Which would be the best compatible kit from these? Or would I be better off getting PC6400 RAM and overclocking it?

I've got a question about this board since i'm considering this to replace my P5K-E/Wifi-AP which has the Sata bug apperantly.

Does this board have any problem's with WD's Velociraptor and Samsung's F1 1TB drives, since my Raptor reinitializes every once in a while making the system freeze for a few seconds but it passes WD's diag.

I plan to run this board with my Q6600 that does 3,2 at default voltage and 400FSB which is what i'm also looking for in this board, higher is ofcourse better but lower is not ;)

Btw the P5K-E is going to be replaced also because i want propper crossfire support.

Thanks for any input guys!

I'm getting NOWHERE with my Rampage Formula/QX9650. I can up the multi to 10 and it works fine, but even increasing the bus 7 MHz to 340 Vista will not load. I've tried upping voltages to insane levels just to see if it helped and it doesn't seem to. I had this same CPU and memory at 420 x 10 on my Maximus Formula 12 hours + prime stable.

Since it will generally POST I'm wondering if maybe I have a Vista issue. I swapped from the Maximus without a re-install and recently went from an 8800GTX to HD4870. Removed the nvidia drivers, did driver cleaner, etc using the 8.6 hotfix catalyst drivers. Since the video card swap there are some issues. Sometimes it won't go into standby (S3) as set in the power properties. Manually putting it into standby works fine. Sometimes it will crash coming out of standby. I guess I'll hang on until the official 8.7 catalysts come out and do a re-install. In the meantime running at 3.33 GHz. Hopefully reinstalling Vista will get my OC back.

On a side note the Maximus was RMA to Asus and they have return shipped. It'll be interesting to see what shows up. It seems like the X48 should be > X38, so there must be some other issue with the OC.

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Originally Posted by Clump

I'm getting NOWHERE with my Rampage Formula/QX9650. I can up the multi to 10 and it works fine, but even increasing the bus 7 MHz to 340 Vista will not load. I've tried upping voltages to insane levels just to see if it helped and it doesn't seem to. I had this same CPU and memory at 420 x 10 on my Maximus Formula 12 hours + prime stable.

Since it will generally POST I'm wondering if maybe I have a Vista issue. I swapped from the Maximus without a re-install and recently went from an 8800GTX to HD4870. Removed the nvidia drivers, did driver cleaner, etc using the 8.6 hotfix catalyst drivers. Since the video card swap there are some issues. Sometimes it won't go into standby (S3) as set in the power properties. Manually putting it into standby works fine. Sometimes it will crash coming out of standby. I guess I'll hang on until the official 8.7 catalysts come out and do a re-install. In the meantime running at 3.33 GHz. Hopefully reinstalling Vista will get my OC back.

On a side note the Maximus was RMA to Asus and they have return shipped. It'll be interesting to see what shows up. It seems like the X48 should be > X38, so there must be some other issue with the OC.

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What clocks are aiming for? Please post your settings.

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

What clocks are aiming for? Please post your settings.

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I'd like to get the same OC I had on the Maximus, 420x10. At this point I'll settle for being able to up the bus speed at all.

I've tried leaving everything on auto, manually setting voltages and timings and combinations. I tried Hartigan's settings and upped all of the voltages to the first setting where they go yellow. The result is the same - crash on Vista load. Keep in mind that all of this is with a bus speed of 340 and a 9x multi. That's what leads me to thinking it's a Vista issue.:shrug:

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Originally Posted by Clump

I'd like to get the same OC I had on the Maximus, 420x10. At this point I'll settle for being able to up the bus speed at all.

I've tried leaving everything on auto, manually setting voltages and timings and combinations. I tried Hartigan's settings and upped all of the voltages to the first setting where they go yellow. The result is the same - crash on Vista load. Keep in mind that all of this is with a bus speed of 340 and a 9x multi. That's what leads me to thinking it's a Vista issue.:shrug:

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What are your current settings?

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

What are your current settings?

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Currently everything on Auto, except:
CPU Multi - 10.0
V DIMM - 2.10

Running OK with these settings. Going back to 9.0 multi and raising FSB from 333 stock to 340 = crash loading Vista at CPU voltage from auto to 1.7.

It's BIOS 0406 Beta BTW.

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Originally Posted by Ice009

Hey guys, I am considering getting this MB, but don't know which RAM to get for it.

Here are some options please tell me which you think will be better

1 - OCZ Reapers 4GB kit PC8500 (OCZ2RPR10664GK)

2 - Corsair PC8500 4GB kit (TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF)

3 - Team Group PC8500 4GB kit (TXDD4096M1066HC5DC-D)

I'm in Australia and these are the best options at the place I'm buying from. Which would be the best compatible kit from these? Or would I be better off getting PC6400 RAM and overclocking it?

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everyone who has the G.Skills is very happy with them & the board is happy also .. soo there have been problems with the OCZ & corsair but then agin some are happy with them but I don't know which ones of each will work BuT the G.Skills do work quite well & those being the DDR2-1000 & DDR2-1066 2x2 gb's alot of us are running 8 gb's of these
PM me if u want the part #'s
the problem is not the board per say but the Intel X48 chipset email all the above Memory MFG's & ask about compatabilty of their memory with the Intel X48 chipset any good MFG'er will advise what will work of their's & what will not .... if they can;t that tells you something
hope this helps
this is a great board

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Originally Posted by Clump

Currently everything on Auto, except:
CPU Multi - 10.0
V DIMM - 2.10

Running OK with these settings. Going back to 9.0 multi and raising FSB from 333 stock to 340 = crash loading Vista at CPU voltage from auto to 1.7.

It's BIOS 0406 Beta BTW.

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Okay, try this for starters:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 112
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CMD Skew on Channel A: AUTO
DRAM CMD Skew on Channel B: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: 300
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO (This is same as):

Primary: 5-5-5-15-3-AUTO (for 52)-6-3

Secondary: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6

Tertiary: 14-5-1-6-6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate/Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual
CPL: 6

CPU Voltage :
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 - 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v - 1.55v
DRAM Voltage : 2.1ov
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.300 - 1.36v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.100v
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : x67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage :
SB 1.5V Voltage :

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

With the Loadline Calibration disabled, if you haven't done the pencil mod, you'll need about .1v to make up the difference in vdrop (note, not vdroop).

Goodluck,

Richard.

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Originally Posted by Clump

I'm getting NOWHERE with my Rampage Formula/QX9650. I can up the multi to 10 and it works fine, but even increasing the bus 7 MHz to 340 Vista will not load. I've tried upping voltages to insane levels just to see if it helped and it doesn't seem to. I had this same CPU and memory at 420 x 10 on my Maximus Formula 12 hours + prime stable.

Since it will generally POST I'm wondering if maybe I have a Vista issue. I swapped from the Maximus without a re-install and recently went from an 8800GTX to HD4870. Removed the nvidia drivers, did driver cleaner, etc using the 8.6 hotfix catalyst drivers. Since the video card swap there are some issues. Sometimes it won't go into standby (S3) as set in the power properties. Manually putting it into standby works fine. Sometimes it will crash coming out of standby. I guess I'll hang on until the official 8.7 catalysts come out and do a re-install. In the meantime running at 3.33 GHz. Hopefully reinstalling Vista will get my OC back.


On a side note the Maximus was RMA to Asus and they have return shipped. It'll be interesting to see what shows up. It seems like the X48 should be > X38, so there must be some other issue with the OC.

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look this has worked for me more than once as i had the same problem !
1st SAVE every thing on the drives !!!!


I'd would clear the CMOS (switch the CMOS lever on the mobo to off & then remove battery for an hour, replace battery then move switch back & at that point do a fresh install of the Vista ) this has happened to me & i did this this way & Boom every thing worked fine , my Asus P5E MoBo would do the same thing soo i've been down this road a few times ...

Hi Guys,

A quick question, has anybody come across an issue with quads over 500Mhz FSB??

The reason I ask is, I can boot my Q6600 @ 520 X 7 with 1.61v on the NB. The problem is when I do this I only have 2 core's available. They were prime small fft stable too for just over an hour :p:. As soon as it boots, on the VGA BIOS screen it reads core Count: 2. Is this just a weird bios bug or am I missing something? As soon as I drop back to 490 it's back to all 4 cores.

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Originally Posted by Lurker246

Hi Guys,

A quick question, has anybody come across an issue with quads over 500Mhz FSB??

The reason I ask is, I can boot my Q6600 @ 520 X 7 with 1.61v on the NB. The problem is when I do this I only have 2 core's available. They were prime small fft stable too for just over an hour :p:. As soon as it boots, on the VGA BIOS screen it reads core Count: 2. Is this just a weird bios bug or am I missing something? As soon as I drop back to 490 it's back to all 4 cores.

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520 with a quad! No wonder you're having issues. Try more NB volts + more VFSB. Also, you may need more vcore.

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Originally Posted by hartigan

EDIT (4): With Vtt at 1.520V, I BSODed in about 10-15 minutes. Not sure where I can tweak this to get that full stability.

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Go two steps up on the NB. What temps are you getting on the NB on load? If it fails, back down on VFSB to previous setting, and set both GTLs manually to x67.

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

520 with a quad! No wonder you're having issues. Try more NB volts + more VFSB. Also, you may need more vcore.

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Cheers, I pushed it about as far as possible voltage wise. 1.69 NB, 1.49 vcore. Since I'm still on air I can't push it to the red zone, no matter how many fans I throw at it :explode2:. The case of the missing cores continues....

Might be time to take the 'plunge' with a h2o setup (Bad pun intended ;) )

Here's a pic for those interested in such things;

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4389/520x7rh6.jpg

lurker is that the newest ver. of realtemp ? as it's showing the wrong cpu try installing it agin & check settings ,test

turn yer Vista side bar OFF when testing

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Originally Posted by bigslappy

lurker is that the newest ver. of realtemp ? as it's showing the wrong cpu try installing it agin & check settings ,test

turn yer Vista side bar OFF when testing

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no probs, it was just a quick screenie, back on 460 X 8 and everything reads fine. It seems to go a bit mental over 500 FSB :D.

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Okay, try this for starters:
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Goodluck,

Richard.

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I really hate it when I outsmart myself. I sat down to try the settings that Richard reccomended and when I got to the CPU voltage realized that I wasn't up to 1.6V, I had gone "up" to 1.16V. :rolleyes:

No wonder it wouldn't boot! I'm running at 400x10 now. Did a quick prime 95 run and was stable for 10 minutes or so. Now to some tweaking.

I don't think I ever made that noobish mistake before.:rofl:

Thanks for the help!:up:

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Originally Posted by Subsequence

I've got a question about this board since i'm considering this to replace my P5K-E/Wifi-AP which has the Sata bug apperantly.

Does this board have any problem's with WD's Velociraptor and Samsung's F1 1TB drives, since my Raptor reinitializes every once in a while making the system freeze for a few seconds but it passes WD's diag.

I plan to run this board with my Q6600 that does 3,2 at default voltage and 400FSB which is what i'm also looking for in this board, higher is ofcourse better but lower is not ;)

Btw the P5K-E is going to be replaced also because i want propper crossfire support.

Thanks for any input guys!

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I run this board with two WD Velociraptors and two of the new WD Black 32Mb 1.0TB drives without problem.

The Rampage Formula is a very stable platform and should easily overclock your Q6600 to 3.2Ghz

My E8500 will do 4.2Ghz at 525Mhz FSB on air with the Rampage...

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Originally Posted by bigslappy

everyone who has the G.Skills is very happy with them & the board is happy also .. soo there have been problems with the OCZ & corsair but then agin some are happy with them but I don't know which ones of each will work BuT the G.Skills do work quite well & those being the DDR2-1000 & DDR2-1066 2x2 gb's alot of us are running 8 gb's of these
PM me if u want the part #'s
the problem is not the board per say but the Intel X48 chipset email all the above Memory MFG's & ask about compatabilty of their memory with the Intel X48 chipset any good MFG'er will advise what will work of their's & what will not .... if they can;t that tells you something
hope this helps
this is a great board

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I can't get GSkill from the place I'm buying the RAM, also GSkill is a bit scarce here in Australia. Which would you choose out of the ones I've listed?

I will have to track down the email and send each company an email. So it's the X48 chipset not the RAM that is causing problems? I thought I also read somewhere that the PC8500's don't work too well on X38, X48 and that PC6400 works better?

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Go two steps up on the NB. What temps are you getting on the NB on load? If it fails, back down on VFSB to previous setting, and set both GTLs manually to x67.

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I'm hitting 40*C with the North Bridge at 1.696V under load. So far . . . it's stable with that setting but, I've only run p95 for 10 minutes. I'll update more with that later.

One thing that is weird (and I don't think I can fix it) is that my Core 0 and Core 1 always report 10 degrees lower than Core 2 and Core 3. It doesn't matter what monitoring prog. I use (CoreTemp, RealTemp, Everest, etc.).

Also CoreTemp and Everest report 63* and 73* for cores 0,1 and 2,3 respectively. Whereas RealTemp reports them as 53* and 63* From what I've read, that has something to do with the TJ Max settings being different.

I'm comfortable with the temps reported in RealTemp (53* and 63*) as long as they are the most realistic temps. I just hope that I'm not surpassing the 70* limit mentioned for these processors.

If anyone has any thoughts on my 10* discrepancy between cores, I'd be curious to hear them. From what I've read, the best diagnosis is a stuck thermistor on the core that has 0 and 1 on it.



Thank you very much for your help Zucker2K!! I owe you.

I cant get anything over 400fsb stable, overall i am disappointed if this is all i can achieve, is there something i am doing wrong? i am on bios 0403

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Originally Posted by hartigan

I'm hitting 40*C with the North Bridge at 1.696V under load. So far . . . it's stable with that setting but, I've only run p95 for 10 minutes. I'll update more with that later.

One thing that is weird (and I don't think I can fix it) is that my Core 0 and Core 1 always report 10 degrees lower than Core 2 and Core 3. It doesn't matter what monitoring prog. I use (CoreTemp, RealTemp, Everest, etc.).

Also CoreTemp and Everest report 63* and 73* for cores 0,1 and 2,3 respectively. Whereas RealTemp reports them as 53* and 63* From what I've read, that has something to do with the TJ Max settings being different.

I'm comfortable with the temps reported in RealTemp (53* and 63*) as long as they are the most realistic temps. I just hope that I'm not surpassing the 70* limit mentioned for these processors.

If anyone has any thoughts on my 10* discrepancy between cores, I'd be curious to hear them. From what I've read, the best diagnosis is a stuck thermistor on the core that has 0 and 1 on it.



Thank you very much for your help Zucker2K!! I owe you.

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No problem mate. Yes the difference between core temp and real temp is the 10C in TJMax. You can change that in settings.ini file which you can locate in the coretemp folder. Make sure this line is exactly like this: TjMaxOffset=-10; The temp difference is common to most 45nm chips. Hope things prove better this time by way of stability.

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Originally Posted by GAR

I cant get anything over 400fsb stable, overall i am disappointed if this is all i can achieve, is there something i am doing wrong? i am on bios 0403

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I apologize for not getting back to you asap. I did try to post settings once only to find the server was under going an upgrade. Anyway, since you're on air, temps are going to be your biggest problem. What FSB/Clocks are you looking at?

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

No problem mate. Yes the difference between core temp and real temp is the 10C in TJMax. You can change that in settings.ini file which you can locate in the coretemp folder. Make sure this line is exactly like this: TjMaxOffset=-10; The temp difference is common to most 45nm chips. Hope things prove better this time by way of stability.



I apologize for not getting back to you asap. I did try to post settings once only to find the server was under going an upgrade. Anyway, since you're on air, temps are going to be your biggest problem. What FSB/Clocks are you looking at?

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I was hoping for atleast 450fsb, ive tried several different settings posted in this thread, with no luck tho, i would love to get 475, but i can settle for 450, thanks for the help.

Can you list the settings you have tried?