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05-20-2009, 03:42 PM
ben805

Quote:

Originally Posted by unclewebb

I realize that's not your problem. I suggested the Kill-a-Watt just as a different way to monitor throttling.

As you load your CPU and increase the core voltage and the MHz, at full load, a Kill-a-Watt meter will accurately show you how much power is being consumed from the wall. When running LinX, etc. at the desktop in 2D, it will indirectly give you a good idea of how many watts your CPU is consuming.

In theory, the throttling point should correspond very closely with how many watts your CPU is consuming. No matter what software, MHz or core voltage you're using; you will likely find that the throttling point is going to occur at the same power draw from the wall. This is just a different way to prove what you already know in case Asus is still in denial.

ahh I see, where can I get such device from? any specific brand or model? and indeed it would be very nice to have one, in the past I use my APC UPS to monitor the total power consumption under load and idle but it died few months ago, haven't got a chance to fix it yet.
05-20-2009, 04:44 PM
unclewebb

There's always lots of them available on EBay. Just search for Kill-a-Watt. Many hardware stores have them or something similar.
I used it when comparing core temperatures vs power consumption. It shows Prime95 Small FFTs having a very steady load which should result in consistent temperatures from core to core. LinX has a higher peak load which causes higher peak temps but with LinX, the load and power consumption drops significantly between each round. That's why I use Small FFTs when comparing temperatures from core to core and use LinX for creating maximum heat. I also used it to monitor and adjust my Sapphire 1950XT. Its bios was giving it more core voltage than it needed which was easy to see by watching the increased power consumption in 3D and explained the excessive heat. I have a hunch that the Kill-a-Watt would clearly show Turbo throttling at the same time that the i7 Turbo tool does.

Just another way to monitor what's going on with this board at full load. I think Turbo throttling is an issue on a few of the less popular boards from smaller manufacturers too but with CPU-Z sometimes covering it up, I'm sure many users don't realize what's going on.
05-20-2009, 09:58 PM
Niuminoid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truckchase!

Did you clear your bios settings and re-set everything?

(setting from one of the load slots won't work)

Hmmm..you mean clear CMOS? Haven try it yet. Only tried load default settings and it doesnt work :(
05-21-2009, 04:18 AM
Burner27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozan Baseski

Hello everyone. I have the first version of this board. Yesterday I wanted to reset the bios via cmos jumper however I accidentally removed the jumper of the chassis intrusion pins. And when I realized it I put it back. Since then I can't boot my pc. After cpu, ram and hdd recognition it writes " Chassis Intruded! Fatal Error ... System Halted" and everything freezes. I tried to reset bios via jumper and by removing the bios battery. I waited 12 hours without battery but nothing changed. I upgraded the bios with EZFlash to 1504 but still I get the same error message. If I reset bios then I can go into bios with F1 key. After arranging the bios and saving I can't boot, same message appears on the screen. I can't continue with F2 after bios reset because my disks are in AHCI mod and windows can't load because when I reset the bios all the disks begin in IDE mode. Anyway did you have a similar problem? Or know about this problem. I'd really appreciate any help. Otherwise I would go for an RMA. Thanks.

For laughs I decided to do what you did initially and was able to replicate your issue. I followed the instructions in the manual and I unplugged the cord to the PSU, moved the CMOS Clear jumper over for 20 seconds, then moved it back, booted up and the issue is gone. Have you tried the setting in the BIOS that says "Load Setup Defaults"?

Also, try using a different jumper. Maybe the contacts aren't being made within the jumper. To be sure you put the jumper back correctly--you have the jumper over the two pins that are right next to each other--correct?
05-21-2009, 04:54 AM
martinakerman

Quote:

Originally Posted by unclewebb

martinakerman: Can you post a screen shot of the i7 Turbo tool and CPU-Z while running LinX? Your bios setting is 1.35625v but your actual core voltage is likely a little less than that.

Here it is
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/...1d404fa6_b.jpg

This screenshot was taken with this bios setup:
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio: x21
Intel Speed Step: DISABLE
BCLK Freq: 200
PCIE Feq:101
DRAM Freq: 1603MHZ
UCLK Freq: AUTO
QPI Link Data Rate: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: 8-7-7-24
CPU Voltage: 1.35
CPU PLL: AUTO
QPI/DRAM Voltage: 1.35
IOH Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 1.66
Load-Line Calibration Enable
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disable
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disable
C1E Support: Disable
CPU TM Function: Disable
HyperThreating: Enable
(All the rest: Auto/Default)
05-21-2009, 12:47 PM
Ozan Baseski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner27

For laughs I decided to do what you did initially and was able to replicate your issue. I followed the instructions in the manual and I unplugged the cord to the PSU, moved the CMOS Clear jumper over for 20 seconds, then moved it back, booted up and the issue is gone. Have you tried the setting in the BIOS that says "Load Setup Defaults"?

Also, try using a different jumper. Maybe the contacts aren't being made within the jumper. To be sure you put the jumper back correctly--you have the jumper over the two pins that are right next to each other--correct?

Yes I tried everything including loading setup defaults and flashing new bios. Anyway last week I sent the board for RMA. Today they contacted me and told me that it was fixed. They had replaced a transistor near the "Chassis Intrusion" jumper which has been damaged when I removed the wrong jumper. It's really interesting how a board can stop working just by removing and putting back a jumper. Anyway I'll get my board tomorrow and get you guys informed about the situation.
Btw I am also thinking about replacing this board with a new one. Which brand would you suggest? Among my choices are new Asus P6T Dlx V2 (mine was V1), Rampage II Extreme, Giga UD5-UD4P, MSI Eclipse, DFI X58 T3eH6.
05-21-2009, 03:49 PM
chuckbam

P6T DELUXE-1604 bios has been removed from the ASUS websites.
05-21-2009, 04:18 PM
Burner27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozan Baseski

Yes I tried everything including loading setup defaults and flashing new bios. Anyway last week I sent the board for RMA. Today they contacted me and told me that it was fixed. They had replaced a transistor near the "Chassis Intrusion" jumper which has been damaged when I removed the wrong jumper. It's really interesting how a board can stop working just by removing and putting back a jumper. Anyway I'll get my board tomorrow and get you guys informed about the situation.
Btw I am also thinking about replacing this board with a new one. Which brand would you suggest? Among my choices are new Asus P6T Dlx V2 (mine was V1), Rampage II Extreme, Giga UD5-UD4P, MSI Eclipse, DFI X58 T3eH6.

You're going to replace a perfectly working returned board because of the simple jumper issue? Well, it's your choice. Frankly, I think jumpers should not be anywhere on a motherboards nowadays. If you're really intent on switching to another brand, I would look at the eVGA X58 motherboard, or the Gigabyte UD5 x58 motherboard as potential replacements. The P6T V2 is different from the V1 in that is lacks the SAS ports and has jumpers; the RIIE has jumpers, the Gigabyte UD5 may be a worthy choice; the MSI got good reviews from MaximumPC Mag; don't know anything about the DFI. What makes you think if you switch to another board you will have any less issues? Why are you condemning a perfectly working board (when you get it back)?
05-21-2009, 04:24 PM
003

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckbam

P6T DELUXE-1604 bios has been removed from the ASUS websites.

Hmm why?? I've been running it and it is working great for me..
05-21-2009, 07:51 PM
chuckbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

Hmm why?? I've been running it and it is working great for me..

I have been running too. Maybe a new one will be out soon.
05-21-2009, 09:22 PM
angelreaper

P6T-DELUXE-V2-0502 bios has been removed also from the ASUS websites and ftp site:shrug:
05-22-2009, 05:29 AM
nge769

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Originally Posted by angelreaper

P6T-DELUXE-V2-0502 bios has been removed also from the ASUS websites and ftp site:shrug:

Wow never knew 0502 was out to begin with...what changes was there from
0406 ,cause I'm still running 0406..
05-22-2009, 05:37 AM
angelreaper

Quote:

Originally Posted by nge769

Wow never knew 0502 was out to begin with...what changes was there from
0406 ,cause I'm still running 0406..

[ 0502 ]
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Update Express Gate
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05-22-2009, 11:11 AM
chuckbam

[ 1504 ] V1
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1. Fixed the key may lag in BIOS setup when a Turbo Mode ratio was selected.
2. Supported EIST function when CPU ratio is in manual mode.
3. Adjusted max value of CPU ratio setting according to the number of cores active in BIOS setup.
4. Fixed setup item "CPU Ratio Setting" may disappear if down CPU ratio.
5. Fixed Vista may loading slowly when populated memory size is larger than 3GB and with high-end VGAs
05-22-2009, 12:09 PM
ben805

502 kinda sucks, I found it not as stable as the 406 and I lost both OC Profiles that i had saved, after had it for a day i immediately roll back to 406.
05-23-2009, 12:24 AM
Buggalugs

Ya the 602 bios for P6T standard has been removed too. I guess they found some issues
05-23-2009, 08:05 PM
devsk

I tried to talk with Asus customer service about the throttling issue and got a very official message from them regarding how they don't support overclocking and how they can't help me. How I wish evga board didn't have the NB fan on board and didn't suffer from heat issues!!...:(
05-23-2009, 08:14 PM
devsk

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben805

I'll most likely get the EVGA as replacement, not sure if I should get the A1 with 2yr warranty or spend more to get the classfied yet....is Asus going to fix the thermal throttling ever? before I get a replacement board I did a little comparison of my D0 in power consumption and here's what I found:

2.66Ghz @1.15v: 130w
4.00Ghz @1.22v: 219w
4.20Ghz @1.30v: 262w (underload throttling back to around 20.75x 200; 4.15Ghz)
4.30Ghz @1.35v: 289w (underload throttling back to around 20.5x 205; 4.2Ghz)
4.40Ghz @1.40v: 318w (underload throttling back to 20x 210; 4.2Ghz)
4.51Ghz @1.45v: 349w (underload throttling back to 20x 215; 4.3Ghz)

note:CPU wattage calculation from http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

For 24/7 I guess the sweet spot of my D0 is somewhere around 4.2~4.3Ghz with the least amount of heat load.

Did you get the evga board? How is the NB fan and heat on NB? I have heard its bad from many folks, but some folks say its alright. What was the case for you?
05-24-2009, 01:45 AM
Ozan Baseski

Well yesterday I got my board from RMA.But the "Chassis Intrusion" problem is still there. When I look closer to the chassis intrusion jumper I realized that a transistor just below this jumper have been removed and its place is empty. Perhaps they couldn't solder it perfectly when they fixed it and now the transistor's place is empty. I think that's why the board is still giving the same error. Anyway I am really fed up with this board and I'll send it for RMA second time. I am considering of getting a Asus Rampage II Extreme or Gigabyte X58 Extreme. Evga X58 can't be found in my country. I can get it from abroad but then its warranty will not be valid here. My brand choices are Asus, Gigabyte, DFI or MSI.
05-25-2009, 12:13 AM
angelreaper

New bios for Asus P6T Deluxe V2 - 0504

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/asus/mb/LG...XE-V2-0504.zip

[ 0504 ]
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1. Support new Express Gate version
2. Fix system may hang after resume from S3

I hope for good support of Xeon:)

Please some one with V2 and Xeon to share how is the situation.
Thanks
05-25-2009, 03:48 AM
r1rhyder

Hey reaper, isn't that a V2 and a Xeon in your sig? :slap:
05-25-2009, 04:10 AM
angelreaper

Quote:

Originally Posted by r1rhyder

Hey reaper, isn't that a V2 and a Xeon in your sig? :slap:

Yes but I`m far far away from home and V2 and Xeon:)
05-25-2009, 04:35 AM
r1rhyder

For me, nothing has changed. MC still locked for CPU-Tweaker too. Same vcore and QPI/Dram. Don't expect any improvements.
05-25-2009, 04:35 AM
Buggalugs

Bios 0603 for P6T standard

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...-ASUS-0603.zip
05-25-2009, 05:40 AM
angelreaper

Quote:

Originally Posted by r1rhyder

For me, nothing has changed. MC still locked for CPU-Tweaker too. Same vcore and QPI/Dram. Don't expect any improvements.

With Хeon you try?

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