@greg.m
Does it make a difference running at 9 X 480MHz in 3DMark06 graphics tests score than running at 9 X 450MHz?
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@greg.m
Does it make a difference running at 9 X 480MHz in 3DMark06 graphics tests score than running at 9 X 450MHz?
Sorry about that, when I wrote that post I was referring to people who hadn't yet posted their experience with stuck sensors and the Rampage Formula (I should have been more articulate). In hindsight it wasn't a very good question because I'm already quite sure its got nothing to do with the motherboard (earlier today I installed my Q9650 into my old DFI UT X48 which also measured a stuck sensor on Core#4 at 42C)!Quote:
Originally Posted by kuebk
Burdoror - Great work with the Q9550, that is very impressive for such early testing.
This thread has gotten really large and I have been trying to keep up. So what is the final verdict on bios 0902? Flash to it or stay with 0803?
I'm still on 803.
The BIOS makes it possible to run at DDR 1200MHz+ and tRD 6 and makes it possible to run stable at FSB 480MHz and DDR 1200MHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElAguila
It's the best BIOS for DDR 1200MHz+.
802 does wonders on my board but I should try 902 with my new toys:
Transcend aXe 1200+ 2x1GB kit
Quick testing:
DRAM Voltage 2.1V bios set on all shots
1240MHz
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1...micron2.th.jpg
1260MHz
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5...micron3.th.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1...chemem3.th.png
I'm still on 803, I may have to just try this BIOS...
Yes it does and i think a big one... but ill be back later with some results:)Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Hi guys since a few days im really running into stability problems.
First i thought that it was my RAM then i thought it was my mobo but now i think its my CPU.
System is only stable at stock speeds and any overclock will fail in PRIME and OCCT.
Now i noticed this ate start up:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...R/P1020349.jpg
It should say count : 4 but it is saying 2, in windows the 4 cores show up without any problems.
So what could it really be? A failing RF or a failing Xeon?
Earzz - I wouldn't worry about it (especially if Windows is properly showing all four cores), I imagine your Xeon isn't "officially" supported by the BIOS or motherboard at the moment (maybe go over to Asus and check the CPU compatibility list to see if its supported). I could be wrong but I assume that its just a simple mistake and nothing serious (but I could be wrong)?
Here is the results:Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
450x9
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9559/skrmklipp2.jpg
and
480x9
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2853/skrmklipp1.jpg
Thats a big difference i think...;)
Well i know that it did show up as 4 cores before i had all my problems, one other thing is how can it be that all of the sudden my systems isnt stable anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
It worked just fine for more then a year :shakes:
Try to reflash bios.
Nice results with that Transcend aXe 1200+ 2x1GB kit.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDcomer
Yeah, that's a big difference. Could you also run a test at 8.5 X 480Mhz to see if it's the CPU or the higher bandwidth that makes the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
Did you change any hardware?Quote:
Originally Posted by Earzz
Try with removing the PSU cable and battery and do a Clear CMOS.
Well i installed Win7 and my SSD's and then all my troubles began.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
First i thought it was Win7 and then i thought it was the combination with Win7 and SSD's, then i thought it was maybe my old 410 bioswat didnt support the SSD's correct so i went to 803 and now 902.
So i started stress testing with different speeds with all kind of different voltages and no mather what i tried everything was failing.
So this evening i noticed that with the bios start up it is saying "count : 2", i know for sure this was saying 4.
Ill try disconnecting everything and installing the old 410 bios and see what happens then, ill keep you updated.
Must solve this ........................:brick:
I've just been tightening up my memory timings (memory is in sig).
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/96/...reensho.th.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9...reensho.th.jpg
I'm 11 passes memtest for windows and 50 passes linx stable with these memory settings, the rest are the same as previously.
I haven't run a P95+UT2004 pass on it as yet i'm not sure if that is necessary if only the memory has been changed, would it be advisable??
Are there any timings i could tighten further??
also
@Earzz
I would try just doing a clear CMOS like A-Grey said but reinstall Bios 902. Eliminate one thing at a time in this case a bad bios flash.
Well clearing my cmos solved the problem that it was showing count 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by leo27
Now im on 3570 Mhz with 1.264 VCore (real) 1 hour OCCT stable, gonna let it stress test now overnight for 8 hours.
Really strange because all my old known stable OC settings dont work anymore, its really picky now with the settings and i doubt it that i will reach a stable 3700 Mhz.
For sure i wont be able to run it anymore with a VCore of 1.288 but i still will try to get my Xeon C1 back on that speed.
if your still on Bios 902 don't forget to set the nb and CPU clock skews they can help with stability
leo27 - First of all nice work, it can take a lot of time and effort to tighten everything up while testing for stability! After looking at your screenshots the main thing I noticed what your "Performance Level" setting (which is 8). In my opinion this is a very important setting and has a bit impact on performance and stability. There is an excellent article over at Anandtech HERE in regards to the Rampage Formula and BIOS settings (it goes into great detail about certain settings including the Performance Level or tRD setting). Basically this setting is dependent on what FSB your running (there is a formula you can use to figure out if certain tRD settings are possible or not). With that said I would suggest lowering your tRD value from 8 to 6 (if you keep your FSB at 425Mhz). You might even try running a tRD of 5 but it might take a bit more testing and tuning to get stable. Like A-Grey I'm running a tRD value of 6 with a FSB of 450Mhz. In any case lowering your tRD value from 8 to 6 will yeild decent memory performance increases.
I'm running a tRD of 8 with all pull-ins enabled (so basically a tRD of 7),i wasn't aware you could run a tRD of 6 with a memory frequency of 850Mhz (a 1:1 memory divider)??
And also if i did lower the tRD would any voltage increases be necessary do you know??
I should have done this before posting my suggestion above (about lowering tRD to 6), after some quick math I realize that your right. Given that your running 1:1 with a CAS4 it shouldn't be possible, tRD6 is about as good as you can get. Sorry about that Leo, I should have paid closer attention to the divider you were running. If you have the time would you run the Everest "Cache and Memory Benchmark" and post it (or just post your "Read", "Write", "Copy", and "Latency" numbers for me with your current settings), thanks very much if you can!
here's the everest bench
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1...timsied.th.png
Nice result for a 6400 kit.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by leo27
Yeah nice work Leo and thanks very much for posting those results. I wanted to see how it compared to my own current settings (400Mhz x 9.0x, 1199Mhz @ 5-5-5-15 tRD5), the results are closer than I thought they would be.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3943/everestk.th.jpg
Who's going to be the first to run in SLI :D on the ASUS Rampage Formula? :yepp:
Look at this thread on XS to find out how to do it: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=231383
Excellent news, thanks for posting that here! Somehow that information completely passed me by and this is the first I've heard of it, very interesting to say the least! I only spent about 10 minutes researching and reading through those various threads and articles but this process seems to be a bit above my ability (at least until somebody writes the code specifically for the Rampage Formula, although maybe the Rampage Extreme process would work as it is)? If I had a second card I'd definitely be the guinea pig and try it out!
Yoh Roger!Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
How do you like this one:
http://www.abload.de/img/fsb500fast_fastpl8i7bx.png
:shocked: Everytime I think I'm making progress, results like those make me realize just how pathetic I am at clocking! Nice work Fritz, not only are those bandwidth numbers impressive but its very rare I see quads (specifically Q9650's) running upwards of 500FSB (P45 FTW)!
6GB = 2x2GB G.SKILL PC8800 ∏ (PSC) + 2x1GB Transcend aXe 1200+ (Micron D9GMH)
20 iterations LinX maximum memory usage
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5703/6gblinx.th.jpg
Over 6 hours Prime Blend Priority 10
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7376/6gbblend.th.jpg
Over 1000% Memtest
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5078/6gb.th.jpg
Those are very impressive results OLDcomer, that poor NB of yours is getting a serious workout! Did you have any major issues when first trying to boot the system with all slots populated?
Nope. I just set manually beforehand the memory timings to g.skill's spd which is less aggressive than D9GMH's spd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Thanks for the prompt reply OLDcomer, much appreciated!
Nothing special.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Well so far so good, just stopped this stresstest and now im bumping the FSB with 5 more Mhz.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...amR/stress.png
Strangly enough i can run linx for 20 runs without a problem and iff i start OCCT it will fail within 30 minutes, so from now on im only doing OCCT runs as this seems to be more reliable for me.
Could you guys maybe take a look at my PSU voltage the 3.3V line looks awfully low, could i RMA this PSU for that?
i have the same PSU and my 3.3v line reads as 3.25V in everest. It's slightly better than what your getting but in my opinion if everything works and is stable i would leave well enough alone. Just keep an eye on it from time to time and if it gets any worse then rma it you have 5 year warranty so plenty enough time if you decide to get it replaced.
Also i would recommend you flash to Bios 803 or Bios 902 as they both include the CPU and NB clock skews and can help with stability and lowering voltages
Thanks, at the moment im on 902 and i did fidle around with the skews.
Now i got:
CPU Clk Skew = Delay 200PS
NB Clk Skew = Delay 100PS
Cant really get more stability with it tbh, probably have to play with it more.
Just failed OCCT after 3 hours on 3655 Mhz :( , bumping up my NB Voltage.
Ill keep you updated.
Hmm... Does OCCT saves a log somewhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by Earzz
Without a log you can't know what voltage to change because you don't know if it's the CPU or DRAM/NB that's causing the instability.
i just saw your everest settings and to me your FSB term looks very low, i need mine at around 1.3 to be stable at 425Mhz Fsb
Yes everest shows up pictures after completion/failure but atm it doesnt show weird voltage drops, only when stress testing starts but those voltage lines will remain stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Yep you noticed very well, atm its at the lowest setting in the bios, FSB Termination Voltage [1.20].Quote:
Originally Posted by leo27
Untill now it didnt need any more voltage, ill try to run OCCT one more time @ 3655 Mhz because raising my NB voltage last time didnt help and it failed after 2 hours, now i raised the VCore on step.
If this doesnt help i start raising the VTT.
PS: i just saw you are on a 65nm CPU and im on a 45nm, that could explain that you need more VTT ;)
I didn't mean a log for the voltages. Is there a way to know where it failed like in Prime95 Large or Small FFT's?Quote:
Originally Posted by Earzz
Try with FSB Termination Voltage at 1.14V or 1.16V. Try to get it LinX or IBT stable for at least 25 passes before you try it again with OCCT or Prime95.
OCCT just fails and ill get a windows error or it fails and it says which core failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
I honestly never played to much with Prime95 so i dont know anything about those logs, what i can remember from Prime is that it just stops when a core fails.
I got my system now OCCT stable for 8 hours.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...mR/stress2.png
tbh i dont want to run Linx or IBT since from now on my voltages are at that level that the temps are going over the 71C with using them.
So from now on OCCT only.
Im gonna run a FSB of 435 overnight so hopefully ill be back on my old speed by tomorrow, and hopefully higher later this week :)
If i were you i would use Prime 95 as well as OCCT if you don't won't to use a linpack based test to double check your stability. I've found P95 more reliable than linpack anyway and it doesn't cause insane temperatures.
It really is very simple to use:
If you run a largefft test and it fails it will be due to NB or DRAM voltage.
If you run a smallfft test a failure is normally due to CPU voltage or the GTL's. And if you run P95 Blend+Unreal Tournament 2004 you'll put even more stress on your system (especially NB). If this fails simply check if it fails in large or small fft's and increase the relavent voltage.
Ok thanks, well as soon as i reach "the limit" with OCCT ill start doing some small and large fft tests with prime to make it completly stable.
I just need more time because this is taking ages, how is it possible that my old OC wasnt stable anymore?
CPU thats a bit degraded? Must have a reason tbh.
Okey guys, Iīm on my way to run 9800GTX SLI on my Rampage Formula
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...la/SLIRF01.png
This is how I did it, http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpo...&postcount=923.
I gonna do some tests now, be back for more
Ghostleader - Excellent work, this is the first confirmation I've seen that its possible on the Rampage Formula! I just carefully read through all the instructions from the link you posted above, were there any special steps or extra steps you had to take on the Rampage Formula (since those instructions were for a DFI LP DK 790FXB-M2RSH motherboard)? I assume the process is the same no matter what motherboard your running (hence why those instructions work on multiple motherboards)? I just want to be sure before undertaking this process, thanks very much Ghostleader and please keep us posted on your progress!
That's excellent news.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostleader
Thank you guys
@Roger_D25
Itīs pretty easy, just follow the instructions, itīs the sli string installer how make it so easy and with it you get choices, it looks like this.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...inginstall.jpg
Just choose ASUS, the thing is, you fool the Nvidia driver to think itīs running with a X58 chipset. :ROTF:
Hereīs my first tests with Rampage Formula / Q9650@3,0GHz / 2x2 OCZ Blade PC-9600@1066 555 15
Single
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...gle9800GTX.jpg
SLI
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...SLI9800GTX.jpg
Man those copper sinks just look badass!:clap:
Thanks again Ghostleader, I didn't realize that the SLI String Installer was so user friendly! Nice results BTW!
Hereīs some more with Stalker Clear Sky
Rampage Formula / Q9650@3,0GHz / 2x2 OCZ Blade LV PC-9600@1066 555 15
Single
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...gle9800GTX.jpg
SLI
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...SLI9800GTX.jpg
@Ghostleader
You just turned your X48 into an X58. I see in your pictures that CPU-Z thinks that too.:D
Nice results with your GTX 9800 SLI setup.:up:
great results Ghostleader
off topic here but is there any difference between the memory slots, i.e. are the white slots better to use or the blue ones.
No, there is no difference.
Ok guys im kinda stuck atm, got my systems 8 hours OCCT stable and 25 passes Linx stable but i cant get any higher.
Here are some details with the system stable.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...mR/stress3.pngCode:Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [AUTO]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333Mhz]
FSB Frequency [435MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100MHz]
DRAM Frequency [1045MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [AUTO]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A/B [AUTO]
DRAM TimingControl [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control [Auto]
Ai Clock Twister [Auto]
Ai Transaction Booster [Auto]
CPU Voltage [1.32500V]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.56V]
North Bridge Voltage [1.43V]
DRAM Voltage [2.10V]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.20V]
South Bridge Voltage [1.075V]
SB 1.5V Voltage [1.50V]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Voltage Reference [0.63X]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67X]
DRAM Controller Voltage REF [Auto]
DRAM Channel A/B Voltage REF [Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 200ps]
NB Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
CPU Ratio Setting [AUTO]
C1E Support [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Enabled]
Vanderpool Technology [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Disabled]
Max CPUID Value Limit [Disabled]
So i bumped up my fsb towards 440 and tryed raising the VCore, FSB VTT and NB Voltage with decent voltages but all without results.
Am i missing something in my bios settings or am i just doin something wrong?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Thank you guys :)Quote:
Originally Posted by leo27
Someone else want to try, a free harddisk, Windows 7 RC 64-bit and two Nvidia VGA card is what you need.
Hereīs some more Crysis bench
Rampage Formula / Q9650@4,05GHz / 2x2 OCZ Blade PC-9600@1200 555 15 Strong tRD6
Single
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...6504051200.jpg
SLI
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...6504051200.jpg
and hereīs some 3DMark06
Single
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...4504051200.jpg
SLI
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...4504051200.jpg
I would like to try but I've got some problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostleader
I've got a free harddisk.:D
I don't have 2 Nvidia cards that are the same.:( This can be solved. My wife's brother and his friends should have some cards that are the same.:D
I don't have a SLI bridge and I can't use the second PCIE slot because of the Thermalright HR-05 IFX cooler on the SB.:(
It doesn't matter that I can't try it because tomorrow I'm going to have my EVGA GTX 285 Hydro Copper and my FSP Booster X3 to play with.:up:
Ghostleader - More impressive results, thanks for taking the time to share your results with us it is greatly appreciated!
A-Grey - If you get a chance give us an update once you get the GTX285 and FSP Booster up and running, I am quite interested in how it works for you (should make a big difference in the graphics department)! By the way I've got a few SLI bridges (3-way version, a couple fixed length bridges, and a couple flexiable bridges), let me know if you want one (I'll give it to you for free so you could test SLI)!
How did you do it Ghostleader?? I want to try SLI 9800GX2+9800GTX on mine.
Whoa.. my thread is still going strong. :D
It is indeed going strong almost 6 months later!
alexlyc - Go back and check post #3046 on page 122, Ghostleader posted a linky to the information he used to modify his board to run SLI. Its seems fairly straight forward for the most part and there is no soldering involved! Keep us posted if you end up trying this, I'm curious how you make out with it.
18months (Started in March 2008) haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Sad to say I am selling my setup to a fellow forum member later today. It's time for me to save up for a new rig.
This motherboard treated me really well though.
Still no suggestions for my problems?
Opps, after a quick look at the date in your first post I must have just assumed it was March of 2009! I got this motherboard much later than most of you guys did, like you however I'm getting ready to make the switch to X58 and DDR3 (are you also planning to make the switch to X58 or P55, or something completly different)?
Earzz - Sorry to have missed your above post, after taking another look I noticed I couldn't figure out what RAM timings and sub-timings your using (if their all set to "AUTO" than that might be a good place to start)? Then again the Rampage Formula seems to default to fairly loose "AUTO" timings and sub-timings so maybe its just fine at "AUTO". If you get a chance could you post your main DRAM settings (sorry if you have posted them earlier in the thread, if so could you post a quick linky to them or let me know the Post #)?
Here are the settings, timings look loose indeed.
I left them in auto because i wanted to work on that later.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...mRbamR/ram.png
Thanks.
Here's an update.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
The EVGA GTX 285 Hydro Copper that they send to me is a complete different graphics card than the one that you can find on EVGA's website.
The cooler is competely different and to my surprise the card was also wet. There was some kind of liquid stuff on the top plate of the card.:shocked:
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...rey/Liquid.jpg
The 1/2" fittings aren't included in the box. I can't connect it to my watercooling setup without them.
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...y/Fittings.jpg
There is no way you can run these cards in SLI because the top plate blocks the opening for the fittings. You can only connect the tubes from your watercooling on the bottom side. This isn't possible for me they should be connected on the top side.:shakes:
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...ngsblocked.jpg
The opening for the waterflow is to small and there's also little pieces of plastic blocking the already to small openings.:eek:
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...dwaterflow.jpg
What's going on with EVGA?:shrug:
I have to pay 500+ Euro for that graphics card and they give me something that I wouldn't like to buy for half the money.:confused:
I've got some pictures. I'll add them later because if you didn't see it you can't believe it.
I didn't try the FSP Booster X3 yet. I'm pissed and was to busy to start the RMA procedure.
You have to up the FSB Termination Voltage. Sometimes more than you think you would need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Earzz
With my Q9450 at 8 X 450MHz I needed 1.14V and for 8 X 465MHz, a CPU speed increase of 120MHz, I needed 1.22V.
Also lock your CPU GTL Voltage Reference to 0.63X and your NB GTL Voltage Reference to 0.67X if you didn't do that already.
A-Grey - Wow that totally sucks man, it must be so disappointing (there is nothing worse than anticipating new hardware only to have it be the wrong part or completely different than what you thought it would be)! Its very rare that I've had any major issues with eVGA hardware and certainly nothing like your experiencing. Thankfully they have amazing customer service so at the very least the RMA procedure should go smoothly and quickly (then again you may be RMA'ing with the retailer you bought the stuff from instead of eVGA directly)? I'll be looking forward to pictures of this monstrosity, lol!
Earzz - If you get a chance could you post a screen-shot of Everest with the "Motherboard/Chipset" page open (this page will show a more detailed list of your RAM/NB settings)? In your earlier post above you mentioned that you tried increasing your CPU, FSB Vtt, and NB voltages after increasing your FSB but that it didn't help. I'm not sure how much you increased those voltages but on my board I needed more NB voltage than A-Grey did to get my system stable at 450Mhz x 9.0x (I needed to set the NB BIOS voltage to 1.55v where A-Grey needed far less)? Then again he has probably tuned his system better (or simply has a better chip than me) than I have and therefore needs less voltage to be stable at a given overclock (finesse over just cranking the voltages up until things get stable), lol!
I've Added the pictures. You need one of these cards to completely blow up your rig.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
It's going back to my retailer.
Thats crazy man, it looks to me that some type of fluid leaked out of the block during transport and leaked onto the back of the card? Does it look like any fluid leaked onto the actual PCB, or was it only on the backplate? It was difficult to see from the pictures you posted but what exactly is blocking the inlet/outlet holes, you mentioned pieces of plastic inside? All of these things are bad enough (and I'd RMA the card for any one of them let alone all of them together) but I'm most surprised about the SLI issue? I wonder what Quality Inspector at eVGA let that card pass through testing (the darn block is clearly blocking both the outlet and inlet! With this all said A-Grey did you purchase this card brand new in a sealed package or was it a used card (given what you paid for it I imagine it was brand new)? If it was a sealed package than the issue most likey lies with eVGA, if it was used than the retailer is most likely to blame? If eVGA is to blame I'd pass it off as a one-time mistake and I'm sure they will take care of the problem with no issues for you (then again I'm not sure how eVGA handles their European product warranty issues, it might be far more involved than it is here in the States)? Please keep us posted if you would regarding this!
It's brand new. It came in a sealed package. There is only EVGA to blame for this.
The fluid is all over the graphics card. The inlet and outlet are both to small and the little pieces of plastic block the waterflow. This is probably the reason why the card is wet. You would have to remove the cover from the cooler to drain all the fluid.:shakes:
If this is the best they can give me I just want my money back.
@A-Grey
That totally sucks A-Grey i haven't head of that happening before and wouldn't expect this of evga. If you would like to try another brand i have had nothing but success with bfg and they have water cooled models as well.
After i tweaked my memory timings (Settings on page 121) i have had two system stops. The system just locks up and i have to hard reset. Now it obviously is the memory however the settings i posted where 11 passes HCI memtest stable and 50 passes linX stable. I have stopped using memtest to adjust the tWTR and the tREF and the system has been fine.
Why wasn't this instability picked up in testing i was sure the testing was adequate??
I wonder A-Grey if it would be a better idea (in regards to both cost and performance) to just buy a regular air-cooled card along with a separate waterblock (from EK, Danger Den, etc...)? I imagine that you would get far better performance with one of these blocks instead of the far cheaper blocks that come installed on factory watercooled cards? These companies are trying to make money so I assume they use a separate block than ones you can purchase separately through retail channels? Keep in mind this is just my opinion and I could be wrong but I've always opted to purchased my GFX blocks separatly (and its usually cheaper as well)? Please let me know if I'm wrong, it was tough to see from the posted pictures above if that block is one that you could purchase separatly?
My first choice was a BFG GTX 285 H2O but they aren't available in Belgium. The only European country that sells them is the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by leo27
The problem is that there are different revisions available for the GTX 285 so you can't know what cooler is going to fit your card or you have to buy the card first and then look for a cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
This is also going to void the warranty and clever as they are EVGA puts a sticker on one of the screws on the top plate so they always know when you removed it to put a different cooler on it.
I've got my FSP Booster X3 up and running. My graphics card only needs one six pin power connector so it only uses one rail.
The fan doesn't make much noise. I can't hear it with all my other fans running but that could change when I also need the second six pin power connector and need more watts.
Actually BFG only uses danger dan water blocks.That's why i recommended them its a shame that you can't get them though A-grey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Good point regarding the issues surrounding getting a separate waterblock (instead of just buying card brand new with block installed). Just so you know I've only owned eVGA graphics cards over the last 4 years and I've installed waterblocks on most of them (despite the fact that they strategically place the serial number sticker over the heatsinks screws) and I've never had any issues regarding warranty even though I had installed after market heatsinks and waterblocks. Granted they probably handle it on a case by case basis but for the most part they allow aftermarket coolers as long as you keep the stock heatsink and re-install when RMA'ing. This is another reason why eVGA is always my first choice. With that all said glad to hear you got the FSP Booster X3 up and running, it should be a nice addition. So whats going on with the GTX285, have you tried to RMA or get a refund through retailer?
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Originally Posted by leo27
It's going back from where it came.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
My retailer asked them why this isn't the same graphics card and cooler like the one on the EVGA website?
I have to wait till next week for an answer.
There is only 10mm X 2mm space for the fluid in the inlet and outlet and I bet that if you screw the fittings in the cooler that you don't have a 2mm opening anymore.:shakes:
Can anyone explain the purpose of static read control, i've always had it enabled as it supposedly increases ram bandwidth but i have no clue what it does
I just found that asus has updated the drivers for the rampage formula for windows 7 here http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=MyJtSWUgzptSqKFN
I just flashed to bios 902 and it seems the problem i had of only being able to run a tRD of 8 with all pull-ins is fixed. I'm now running a tRD of 7 perfectly fine. So it seems that bios 902 fixed more than just adding ddr2 1200mhz support.
Maybe you just needed to delay the DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B with 50ps to run with a tRD of 7 in BIOS 0803.Quote:
Originally Posted by leo27
This was my solution to run DDR 1239MHz stable with a tRD of 6 with BIOS 0803.
BIOS 0902 fixes that problem and it's the best BIOS for my G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI memory.
It's good to know that it also fixes the problem for you.
@A-Grey
I feel for you mate, thatīs not the way one want it when one look forward to a new hardware gear.
Hope you sort it out so that youīre pleased with what you get.
BTW, have you thought about get a 5870 card, they seems to do quite well and the price is okey.
I don't expect much form the EVGA Support. I've mailed someone form EVGA that saw my post in the Liquid Cooling forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostleader
All I've got from them is "Where are you located?".
I replied with "I'm from Belgium...". :confused:
And than you don't hear from them again.
That's the support you've got in Belgium from EVGA. :D
I'm going to give them some time to try to find a solution. At the end of the week I'm going to ask my money back and wait for the Nvidia GTX 380.
I don't want to buy an ATI card because the support in Linux is a little bit better with Nvidia.
@A-Grey
Good luck :)
I did a bit of a endurance test, Rampage Formula / Q9650@4,05GHz / 2x2 OCZ Blade PC-9600@1200 555 15 Strong tRD6 / XFX 9800GTX in SLI
99 loop of Crysis Benchmark Tool, Assault Harbor on Very High, AAx0, 64-bit, DX10 @ 1680x1050, took ~3hours.
Overall average fps of 38,22, pretty good for a pair of 9800GTX
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...4504051200.jpg
Now Iīm ending this SLI adventure and go back to my CrossFireX, it was both interesting and fun though.
Once again thanks Ghostleader for taking the time to post your Rampage Formula SLI results and also for letting us know how to modify our own boards if we wanted to!
I'm suprised how well SLI seems to run on this board. BTW have you found the SLI scaling to be on par with the OFFICIAL SLI boards?
I also just installed an Antec SpotCool (fan on High) as close to the NB as i could and the difference is staggering. Before on full load on LinX the NB was 57C (no NB fan at all) now at full load on LinX the NB is 37C this is with the same voltage and room temp. So if any of you have NB heat problems i recommend this.
The EVGA support isn't as good anymore as you think. Have a look in the Liquid cooling forum in my thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Thx for the step by step guide Ghostleader. It seems 9800GX2 + 9800GTX SLI doesn't work... I can't even run the LHALMod in Vista 64bit.
0902-SLI BIOS for Rampage Formula
EZ Flash shows message "Boot block in file is not valid", use AFUDOS.
Where did you get this BIOS?Quote:
Originally Posted by big_mc
you create it, with amitool 1.38Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
I know but didn't you kill your board trying to flash it with a modded BIOS trying to add SLI support?Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
Youīre welcomeQuote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Yes, it runs very well, I donīt know if itīs on par with for example NForce 750i and 780i but I should be surprised if it doesnīt beat the NForce, why, because X48 have better abilitys regarding memory and tRD tuning.Quote:
Originally Posted by leo27
Youīre welcomeQuote:
Originally Posted by alexlyc
I think you need two similary cards to do SLI, 9800GX2 and 9800GTX arenīt similary.
Iīm not sure that it works for Vista 64-bit, just for Win 7 64-bit.
The link is broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by big_mc
i did that however was some very early version. I asked andyp to add this in to his tool and i was kinda first test subject. However this latest tool already had success on maximus formula and maximus II formula, so its big chance that is safe for rampage as well. I know ill try it once i get my board back :)Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Yep, and you can call ASUS the next day if you screwed it up again because they didn't fix the problem with your board. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
hello all.. i joined this forum because i have this board and i am a complete noob. i have been having problems when starting up applications it freezes and then starts up.. i want to buy some ram .. what is the best and stable ram i can get for this board 1066 and up as i am a hard core gamer i would like 8 gigs. my set up is as follows
thermaltake tsunami case
asus rampage formula intel x48
sapphire radeo hd 4870 gddr5 pci express
corsair 750 watt cross fire ready atx12v/eps12v power supply
intel core 2 duo e8500 wolfdale
corsair 4gb ddr2 sdram 1066 pc2 8500 twin2x4096-8500c5
western digital velociraptor 150 gb sata
seagate barracuda 750 gb
samsun 22 inch
g5 logi mouse
2 samsung 22x dvd burners
creative 7.1 channels pci expresss sound blaster x-fi titanium
:banana::banana::banana::banana:ty vista 64 bit business
bios version 902
Test your memory with MemTest86+ to see if it's error free.
Test each stick individual in the slot you are going to use it. Also test them in dual channel mode.
Try with enabling ACPI 2.0 in the BIOS. You probably need a fresh install of Windows Vista 64 Bit if you enable it.
what is acpi and what does it do... ive read alot of reviews on my ram and alot of people said it has problems stock and more with 8 gigs so im just gonna buy a brand new set of 8 gigs and start fresh. and i wanted to buy windows 7 professional for 30 dollars student price so im just trying to figure out what ram i should buy that will be stable and good for gaming and my set up. what do you suggest?
OCZ Blade PC2-9600. These sticks can run stable at 1200MHz with 8 Giga and a Core2Duo.
If you look a few pages back you'll find a post from Ghostleader with some screenshots with 8 Giga OCZ Blade PC2-9600.
ACPI -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface
thanks man so i will reformat and enable acpi 2.0 and intall the new ram thanks for your information and i will be back for any other issues or just to learn.