Any chance of getting an ETA on these products? From what I understand, the original plan was to get them shipping by the end of February, has there been a delay?
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Any chance of getting an ETA on these products? From what I understand, the original plan was to get them shipping by the end of February, has there been a delay?
@kaytaro: no :p:
@YoooH: not quite sure what you mean. The aquasuite is a free program available for all of our USB devices.
@Odai: as said several weeks ago the current ETA is mid-March
is it mid march yet? the wait is killing me! :shocked:
I am curious also, last I heard was ..... well, lets see what Shoggy saysQuote:
Originally Posted by MetalWaterBox
:ROTF:
John
Will it be possible to control the motherboard fan headers with the aquasuite?
Hmm, seems interesting idea. Why not integrate some speedfan functionality in aquasuite for everything to be in one place?
Currently we have a small delay and the shipping should start towards the end of this month. So far everything works fine and goes well but takes more time than we thought.
Controlling the motherboard fans will not be possible.
Shoggy: i mean - not controllable/configurable from aquaero in hardware, but just when aquasuite is running, software only. Just like Speedfan software does.
Yes, I have understand it this way and it will not possible.
Hi Shoggy,
I have just ordered an Aquaero 5 XT with 6 poweradjust2 units and a few sensors.
I have been told I need to use the USB connections for full control of all the devices as the aquabus doesnt provide full functionality.
Can you please clarify what functionality is lost if daisy chaining the aquabus capable devices on the aquabus? I would prefer to have just 1 USB cable connected to the motherboard USB header and daisy chain everything over the aquabus.
Also how do the sensor and poweradjust devices communicate with the Aquaero XT main unit if they are all connected via USB when the system is not booted into windows? Do they communicate to each other over the USB ports???
If I decide to connect everything via USB how do you recommend I achieve this internally in the case?
Lastly.. I have provided below my order, can you please provide a diagram or guide as to how best to connect them all together? Is the manual finished?
Cheers and thanks for reading my technical queries.
1 x 53089 aquaero 5 XT USB Fan-Controller, Grafik-LCD,
Touch-Bedienung, IR-Fernbedienung
aquaero 5 XT USB fan controller, graphic LCD, touch control, IR
remote control
1 x 53093 Wasserkühler für aquaero 5, G1/4
waterblock for aquaero 5, G1/4
1 x 53088 aquaremote Infrarotfernbedienung für aquaero 5
aquaremote Infrarotfernbedienung für aquaero 5
2 x 53087 Einbaublende für poweradjust 2 USB, Aluminium schwarz eloxiert
Einbaublende für poweradjust 2 USB, Aluminium schwarz eloxiert
6 x 53083 poweradjust 2 USB, Ultra-Variante
poweradjust 2 USB, ultra version
1 x 53085 internes USB-Anschlusskabel 100 cm
internal USB connection cable 100 cm
1 x 53080 Stecker 3pol. für Relaisausgang (für aquaero 5)
Plug for relay connector, 3 contacts (for aquaero 5)
2 x 53025 Temperatursensor plug&cool für aquaero, aquastream XT und aquaduct
Temperature sensor plug&cool for aquaero, aquastream XT and aquaduct
2 x 53067 Temperatursensor Innen-/Außengewinde G1/4 für aquaero,aquastream XT und aquaduct
Temperature sensor internal/external thread G1/4 for aquaero, aquastream XT and aquaduct
4 x 53066 Temperatursensor inline G1/4 für aquaero, aquastream XT und aquaduct
Temperature sensor inline G1/4 for aquaero, aquastream XT and aquaduct
1 x 34930 RGB Beleuchtungsmodul für aquaero 5
RGB illumination module for aquaero 5
2 x 93265 tubemeter USB Füllstandssensor
tubemeter USB fill level sensor
2 x 93266 aquabus Kabel für tubemeter
aquabus cable for tubemeter
Hey shoggy,
Any chance of seeing a 24v 2-4A expansion? (poweradjust 2.1?)
Would save me the trouble of making a step up module.
You don't have to worry about the aquabus/USB thing. Just forget it because it is wrong.
The poweradjust 2 was developed with the aquaero 5 in mind so it can be fully controlled through the aquabus. Using it together with USB at the same time would not even work. The only USB connection that you need is for the aquaero.
Since everything is connected via aquabus it will work immediately when you start the PC. Each poweradjust controllers integrates to the aquaero as an additional fan channel, temperature and flow input with all its controlling and monitoring options.
Wiring of everything is also very easy:
USB => aquaero => High-Speed aquabus => poweradjust #1 => aquabus => poweradjust #2 and so on up to no. 6. Each poweradjust comes with the necessary cable and the PCB has two aquabus interface ports so you can go from one controller to the next controller. For the tubemeter you have a problem since you can only connect one of them! It connects to the Low-Speed aquabus on the aquaero. The second tubemeter can be used with USB but there is no way that it will communicate with the aquaero.
All temperature sensors can be connected directly to the aquaero. If it makes more sense for you because of different distances you can also connect a sensor the poweradjust.
Not quite sure why you have ordered another internal USB cable. The aquaero, each poweradjust and tubemeter already includes one ;)
@jasoncrowley: I don't think so.
Thanks so much Shoggy thats what i thought about the aquabus and poweradjust2 being native.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
I am creating 2 loops with 2 x Koolance 452x res with another 2 D5s on their way which is why I have ordered 2 tubemeters.
It wasnt clear from the online store that the cables are included you might want to update the descriptions. In any case the 1M USB cable might be handy to try and run it around the edge of the case to conceal it. The mountain mods extended ascension is massive and doest have any cable management!
Cheers and thanks for your help and such a cool product!
Hi Shoggy, any ETA on the digital sensors yet? :sofa:
No. This sensor has also no priority for us since we are focusing on the aquaero itself at the moment.
Thanks Shoggy :) I'll stop bugging you with this ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
Looking forward to the end of March... Man, AE5, Radeon 6990, GTX580, refresh X58 boards, Vertex 3, it's a rather eventful month so far...
580? 590! :d
Will the firmware allowing the LT model to be used as a "slave" device be available once the units are shipping, or will it be a while before AC release this software?
Also, do you know which resellers based in the UK will be stocking these units?
Thanks! :)
No, this feature will not be available from the start.
You can order through aquatuning.co.uk or directly from our shop.
Will the "waterblock" support two of the fittings listed below.
Bitspower 1/2in. Compression Fittings for 3/4in. OD Tubing - BP-CPF-CC5
Any idea what would be the best route to go for Canadian customers? I've never dealt with Aqua components before so I'm not sure who the resellers are (there doesn't seem to be any list on the aqua site.)
Go to Sidewinder http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by XiraN
Gary provides great CS!
I second that, he replied to a query I submitted at 11:00pm!!!!.Quote:
Originally Posted by theseeker
I'm waiting on SW to get stock before placing my order. If everything works out I'll place an order for a black ae5 PRO with water block (providing it works with the big fittings) in April.
Second that garys great fire canucks
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Awesome
No. I don't have the link but the same question has been asked somewhere else, or another thread here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradoxxx
+1:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by theseeker
Thanks, I eventually found a thread in which the question was asked. Quite disappointing...Quote:
Originally Posted by Daetlus
Still going nuts waiting for this to to come to sidewinders :yawn2:
@Shoggy:
Still on schedule for the end of March? :)
*laughs*, I booked marked the fan controller page...Quote:
Originally Posted by MetalWaterBox
Excellent......I shall do the same :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by avddreamr
Don't bother. Just check the New Products page daily.
John
With 5 days left in March, I don't think that this will be available in March stateside. Sometime in april is a good guess, the availability may be limited. I am still uncertain as to what the final US state price will be.
For me personally around 150 for the xt version would be acceptable and a good value, anything above that and it would place the purchase under scrutiny by the auburn haired auditor (the g/f).
@shoggy: Is there a remote possibility that you will release a bluetooth version of the remote control?
The ability to hook up a bluetooth adaptor would be perfect. Even better an android app, all ready use rog app.Quote:
Originally Posted by avddreamr
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There will no bluetooth remote available. The hardware was not designed to use something like that. The IR function was already a very late idea that was not in our mind from the start. IR was easy and cheap to integrate while bluetooth would have cost much more and would also add several new problems: the biggest of them is that you need a certification which allows you to use bluetooth. That is pretty expensive and compared to the costs of IR almost idiotic.
Well the hope of turning my comp on with my smart phone it's dead.
Will you be enabling access to aquasuite software at least for remote management/reporting ?
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The aquasuite will get a network remote control in the future and there will be also a SDK available.
SHOGGY .... Since your so chatty today how about a status update on production, testing and shipping.
Thanks,
John
Are you looking into app development for that considering your market ( tech heads ) even charging a nominal fee you should get good sales. I'm pretty sure most users on here have a smart phone or tablet of some sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
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Liking this a lot :yepp: :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
From all the hardware that has been announced/released in the Q1 the AE5 is the one I really can't wait to get my hands on :)
@jcrouse: some day in April.
@MagisD: as said, just from technical side it is not possible anymore.
I think he meant an app that can interact directly with the network service (the "network remote control" you were talking about a couple of posts back) of Aquasuite, rather than having to use the web browser for instance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
I don't know how you are going to implement this, as a web server running on the host machine using Apache for instance or as a separate network service running within Aquasuite, but in either case that's what I think MagisD meant.
The best example I can think on right now is the Server Admin app for iOS devices, which acts like a stripped down version of the Server Admin Tools for OS X Server.
Exactly I know zip about app creation, but I'd love it if aquasuite had an control app to take advantage of the network access.
Real time montioring and control while your running game etc. adjustment on the fly while using system since quite a few people don't op for the screen version. That or long cables so I can mount the screen/controls externally.
Aka nzxt sentry lxe which I have now.
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I'm sad that I placed my order only to find out that they won't ship until April :(
Hi, how PA2's can be connected to AE5 and how all these parts work autonomously as one system when USB is down?
Also, flow and temp sensors connected to each PA2, will it be seen from common Aquasuite, i e I may have max upto 7 flow sensors in one single system?
April. I hope that means the beginning of the month and not the end! That is a large time difference!
x eleventybillion!Quote:
Originally Posted by Callsign_Vega
:D
rioja: PA2 becomes as "sub-part" connected & regulated via aquabus cable. AE5 can also work by itself even without usb, as it features it's own controller with firmware. USB is mostly used for initial configuring, and if wished for - for monitoring via software.
Few questons are still unclear for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by churchy
1) how to link AE and PA?
AE has two 4-pin connectors aquabus
http://forum.aquacomputer.de/images-ac/ae5_lt.jpg
and PA has one (or two?) 3-pin connectors
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9264/93157081.png
Do I need special cable or I may make it myself from common fan cable?
2) How to connect two PAs and AE? PA no.2 connect to PA no.1, and PA no.1 connect to AE?
3) If I have flow and temp sensors connected to PA no.1, will it be seen as common sensors in aquaero, so I could program PA no. 2 depending of sensors connected to PA no.1?
ooh! ooh! ooh! I know this one!Quote:
Originally Posted by rioja
The PA's ship with the aquabus cables as does the AE5.
Waiting anxiously for my fully configured AE5 with 6 PA2s to arrive too and I had to ask such questions already.
And Yes they all connect in series and all sensors are seen as an extension of the AE.
This is an amazing controller system, so far ahead of the older AC aquero's, Bravo guys for making such a comprehensive monitoring system as well.
Yes, better, yes, ahead of it. But i still wish to cite Jeremy Clarkson: "MORE POWERRR!" :), at least for stock/without extra PAs variants. I'm still planning to buy one though, as overall new features and alike outweight shortcomings.
To link the PA2 with AE5 you only need a 3-pin cable which already comes with the PA2. AE5 does not come with such a cable.
The PA2 controller has two aquabus connectors. So if you want to add a second PA2 you can connect it to the first controller or you use a y-adapter on the AE5. It does not matter how you connect them since this is a real bus system.
Sensors which are attached to the PA2 controllers are also available for AE5.
And it will all be ready "some day" in April. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
John
Current time line is to start the delivery of XT and PRO variant next week. The aquasuite 2012 will follow in April so LT users will also have to wait for it.
:hump::YIPPIE:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
Great! Such integration between AE and PA is real step forward :cool:
And regarding AE cooling, does Pro come without heatsink? How hot it may be with 10 Scythes GT 1850?
Running DDC 10W on PA2 I have 'electronic temperature' over 50C, but it has heatsink at least. 10 Scythe's GT are near 9W, what temp is expected in AE?
Will it be safe to use AE5 in a bay with no air ventilation and without heatsink?
Thx
The PRO variant has no heatsink but of course you can get the passive or water cooler as an option from the shop.
Temperature should be pretty much the same with the fans.
This is going to depend on how slow you try to make them run. If it's 8-9V, it'll be a fair bit cooler than if you try to run them @ 4-5V. The slower you try to run a load source (fan or pump) on a analog controller, the hotter the controller will run.Quote:
Originally Posted by rioja
(Unless it's PWM)Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
I did specify analog. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by m0r7if3r
:up: I know, but for some analogue doesn't immediately imply not-PWM...I figured it was at least worth notingQuote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
Hey Shoggy I placed an order for an xt and a lt to ship the the usa will they wait till the lt is ready before they ship? Also I currently use a Anemometer to measure the flow through my radiators its located here http://shop.moderndevice.com/products/wind-sensor Would it be possbile to interface this to the Aquaero, maybe even use a I2C interface? I currently use it with an arduino, I know a software change would be required, but either way you guys should consider adding a device like this at a later time. It would be great to be able to graph out CFM with temp, fan speed ect ;-)
good to hear that Shoggy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
:D
@Shoggy:
Any chance of getting hold of the manual for the AE5 if you're not expecting to ship today/tomorrow?
That way I can work out what am I going to put where this weekend, complete the re-build with the AE4 and then just unplug it and plug the AE5 when it arrives.
Thanks :)
Shoggy,
Just stumbled across this thread - as an Aquaero 4 user I'm interested to see the latest development but have a couple of questions also:
Are there any plans to offer a better display as an option? (the VFD display option on the Aquaero 4 provided far better visibility than backlit LCD, so something like AMOLED would seem an excellent upgrade for the 5).
Can the faceplate be removed/replaced with a custom anodised version? (for those with anodised cases who want matching faceplates).
Will there be a version of Aquasuite that does not require .NET Framework installed? (I refuse to have this on my system due to the >1MB of junk it adds to the Registry).
Thanks!
@kaytaro: no idea how we will handle the LT variant. Maybe we will ship that anyway with the other controllers but of course it would be useless for the dealers to sell them since there is no software to configure it. I have no idea if you can use the mentioned sensor with the aquaero. If it does not use any regular data output like a fan or flow meter you will not be able to use ist.
@MrToad: the manual is not yet available.
@AstralWanderer: There will be no other display available. As mentioned before it is a custom made display and we only get a fair price when we take larger amounts of it. Offering different displays type would increase the overall costs for every variant. Also the space is very limited and besides the display itself we need some other ICs on the same PCB which makes it even more complicated. Well, don't expect so don't expect to see other displays for it - if any they will take a long time and will be VERY expensive.
Of course the front cover can be exchanged since we already offer other covers.
aquasuite 2012 will be based on .NET Framework 4.0. There will be no other variant available.
For someone who is still relatively new to the 'advanced' fan controllers out there, how would a plain jane variable speed MCP-655 end up being attached to an aquaero unit like these? I see a spot for a molex plugin on the PCB, but that's for power in to the unit itself. I'm assuming I'd have to wire the molex end of the 655 into something else that would plug into a different style socket, but I feel like there is something obvious I'm overlooking.
:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
Oh well, I'll set it up the best I can taking guidance from the pictures you've published and hope for the best.
@XiraN: you would need an adapter. Something like that:
http://shop.aquacomputer.de/images/p...ages/51097.jpg
(from our webshop)
Shoggy .... Any more word on shipments this week? Will we receive a tracking number via email?
Thanks,
John
We try to ship the first XT and PRO units on Friday but only to customers in Germany. Since their parcels will arrive on Saturday we will already have some feedback over the weekend so we can fix problems/bugs on Monday to have a newer firmware for the next shipment and so on.
Likely that all XT and PRO units will be shipped during the next week.
LT will take a bit longer.
4pin molex to 3pin fan, what I thought. Thanks.
While I can understand your intentions on that, you guys should realistically ship them in the order that they were placed. I'm sure many enthusiast like myself are itching to get their hands on the new shiny toy they paid for :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
All in all I'm glad that a not all companies have not strayed from releasing a well tested and stable product whether it be software or hardware, so kudos to you guys on that :up:
+1 ^Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms
It makes sense to have beta testers, but next Monday it'll be 11 weeks since I placed the order, I wouldn't mind being a beta tester either ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
We have shipped the first unites today and of course in the correct order but if there was an order outside Germany it was no processed but would be the first for the next shipping. I have no overview but I'm almost 99,99% sure that all shipped units were ordered from Germany anyway so it is no big deal ;)
I would guess thats the sentiment of most of us with orders placed, get it installed and tweak it later. Those of us in the middle of a fresh build are actually waiting to assemble until this is available. Oh well, we're getting close now and I'm sure it will be soon. I am anxiously waiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrToad
John
I think I asked earlier but am not sure. What is your process? Do you notify customers via email with a tracking number when am item ships? Sorry, but this is my first order with your company.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
Thanks,
John
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
Well, I think it's 100% there :p: (but I understood your point ^^)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
@jcrouse: you automatically get an e-mail when it has been dispatched.
Shoggy,
Can you please clarify the scope (extent) of delivery with the XT and the Pro?
Danke!
It's now early April and still no update on my order :( This is holding up my whole build.
Shoggy said that they should be going out this week. Its only Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms
John
I've just received dispatch confirmation from Aquacomputer :hump::bananal: :D :D :D
Guess what just turned up? :D :D
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1448/ae5a.jpg
Can't wait to fit it in the rig :p:
It's been a long wait... but man...
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4936/stickl.jpg
All we need now is a Review
argh, me wants
When did you order? Do you know the day?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrToad
Thanks,
John (waiting in the US)
LOL alot of us as still waiting :)Quote:
Originally Posted by acutech
I kinda interested now...
Is there a good place U.S. stateside to order this? or just direct from vendor?
I don't know about the rest of you guys but I was pretty excited when Auqatuning put up a US / CAN site and with $6 or $8 USD for 2-3 day shipping I was amazed. My first two orders went great, but my order for the Aquaero 5 Pro has left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I ordered mine from the Auqutuning.us site on March 8th when the expected ship date was March 14th. When no shipped e-mail arrived I figured maybe it was delayed a day or two. A week later I found this thread and saw Shoggy's posts here but no e-mail to me saying it has been delayed until late March, then beginning of April and now who knows.
I see Mr. Toad got his so it looks like at least the UK is getting some orders. I would have thought I would have gotten some type of e-mail with "sorry your order is back ordered until XXXX date". Further, I have sent multiple e-mails to every support address I could find asking if I can add the black face plate to my order with no response. It seems that they are happy to put up a site for the US but not very willing to support US customers even at a very basic level.
I have to say I love that Aqua has a web site in the states, but would be nice if they had someone that actually supported it.
Great products, but customer service is not so much. I am considering just canceling and waiting for a review to come out. By the time that happens I can probably get it from Sidewinder in the states. At least they have good customer service.
Disappointed Dog...
Don't confuse Aquatuning with our company! Aquatuning is only a reseller and not related to us. If you get in contact with us directly you normally always get an answer within 24h.
I'm also pretty sure that MrToad has ordered from us.
While I am not happy with the delay I can attest that everytime I have posted here or emailed (or PM'ed) Shoggy I have gotten a quick reply. Shoggy .... Now get me my AE5. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
John
All these dramas show how highly anticipated AA5 is :)
Ahh... well my apologies, I thought aquatuning was the US store for aqua computer. well then, I will cancel my order and place it with you direct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
Thanks Shoggy, sorry again for my misunderstanding.
No problem. Keep in mind that we still have a huge amount of orders that have not been shipped so far. So when you order now you will take a place at the end of the waiting queue ;)
:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
And I pre-ordered as soon as it was listed on the AC site.
And throughout this wait I've sent a large number of PMs to Shoggy which all have been replied quickly and most informatively... Keeping in mind that this is XS, not AC support or even the AC forum I think that's nothing short of excellent support.
Apologies if my post has wound people up though, I was so excited on Friday that I didn't really think it through.
@Shoggy, do you know how far off the update to the firmware (to allow the LT to be used as a slave device) is?
Are there no alternative (cheaper?) methods for expanding the number of individual fan channels on the controller? I'd really like to place an order for this product but spending another 60 euros just to attach 4 additional fans seems excessive. :D