oi girls do that all the time and get away with it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by andos
oi girls do that all the time and get away with it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by andos
lol, u are kiding? Did u mean seriously?! look better at it.
1)Phenom FX logo and parallelism with original AMD BOX
2) reflextion on this fake logo etc
3) logical reasoning "why would amd start Phenom FX now" :-) Zambezi will coming in next months in Q2.
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Originally Posted by Apokalipse
Lol, 6k series is Northern Islands. 7k is Southern Islands. And we cant know that TMSC and GF both or other of them gets 28nm production ready this year.
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Did they get to smaller process in 9 series chipsets or are they done in same process as 8 series chipsets?
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Originally Posted by FlanK3r
Dude, it's from CES, and apparently Bulldozer is gonna be branded as Phenom like Deneb just a FX.
Why would AMD post fakes on their own fanpage on facebook FROM CES?
omg, ban for him pls, this is some little kid :-/. ...Man, I really know more, more information from AMD than do u think...So pls dont spread fallacies.
6K series is Southern Islands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechanical Man
We were supposed to have 28nm GPU's before 2011 from TSMC. It was delayed to this year.Quote:
And we cant know that TMSC and GF both or other of them gets 28nm production ready this year.
28nm from GF is still in question.
No it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apokalipse
32nm was supposed to be ready last year, not 28nm. Then they ditched 32nm.Quote:
We were supposed to have 28nm GPU's before 2011 from TSMC. It was delayed to this year.
28nm from GF is still in question.
Dude, seriously, chill out? I posted this because I found it on AMD's OWN facebook page.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
And I know my share of AMD too, so I wouldn't just post this to add nothing.
It is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechanical Man
Then again there are conflicting sources about which one of them is Southern and Northern.
Actually, they were going to have a 32nm and a 28nm node. Then they dropped 32nm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechanical Man
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...60.23542086472Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
Seems legit to me if it's posted by AMD on AMD's own Facebook page. :rolleyes:
Someone used an old prerelease Phenom logo made before the cancellation of the FX name. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fyseni
That's what I've been wondering too. FX might not indicate the highest performance parts, but be only a suffix for the whole bulldozer line.Quote:
Originally Posted by andos
finally one good thinking man:up: Phenom FX is now in january 2011 really bulls*tQuote:
Originally Posted by -Boris-
Andos is not faking this FlanK3r: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2086472&page=2Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
That picture is indeed there. AMD using the Phenom name for Zambezi makes sense as Phenom is a brand people identify AMD with. I see no wrong in that, especially when it shows up and bulldozes the competition.
oh no mens, ....Phenoms is brand for K10 architecture. Phenoms are Phenoms and Zambezi is Zambezi.
Phenoms is name for desktop CPUs K10/K10.5 (refresh K10), here are some core names as Deneb, Agena, Heka, thuban etc. This is "stars" series. Now we will see new architecture, not K10 refresh! New architecture is codename Bulldozer, but...desktop name is Zambezi (server Interlagos etc) and die name is Orochi.
Too many weird names, its all so confusing .....
So in shops we will have "AMD Zambezi x8 950BE" for example?Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
Maybe not, but really not Phenom, Phenoms is only for K10/K10 refresh
Well, really I don't know. But why would AMD post that their facebook from CES?Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
They could still be naming the scheme Phenom, like underline Phenoms are Athlons.
I don't believe it is an AMD picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by andos
Someone else pointed out a "circuit city" banner behind it. They went out of business at least 2 years ago, right?
tiger-direct owns them and comp-usa now if im not mistakenQuote:
Originally Posted by JF-AMD
picture might be from 2008 before Phenom FX was cancelled, if i recall correctly they had a backstage demo of a barcelona based phenom FX which never made it to the market (3ghz model)Quote:
Originally Posted by JF-AMD
the Phenom logo without the II behind the FX logo supports this
Then the picture must have been posted by an accident, I don't know.
It's in the CES 2011 album on the fanpage made by AMD.
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Originally Posted by JF-AMD
Iam with you in this :)
Dude, Do you need to post this crap, Be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
Maybe "Phenom FX" is what they're calling all of their Zambezi chips?
kind of like Athlon -> Athlon XP -> Athlon 64
No, there was just mixups as AMD changed codenames around before launch. 6k was SI, but it is NI. Clear?Quote:
Originally Posted by Apokalipse
32nm and 28nm were never coming at the same time, 32 was planned to come in 2010, 28nm (atleast in all roadmaps i have seen) was planned to 2011.Quote:
Actually, they were going to have a 32nm and a 28nm node. Then they dropped 32nm.
hence the conflicting data.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechanical Man
They cancelled 32nm a long time ago to try and get 28nm working for late 2010, now it's pushed back to 2011Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechanical Man
28nm by TSMC will be ready in 2011, which was my original point.
but looks guys at this....
http://i51.tinypic.com/sptzcn.jpg
http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...b97912ef19c233
Looks great except for the color of the heatsinks.
Just finished listening to AMD's conference call and they said that BD is on track for a early summer release.
That translates to around 4-5 months away. :argue:
Early summer? Wasn't it supposed to be April or so?
that is production i believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
All we have ever said was Q2.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
You can listen here if you wish.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....ventId=3600733
He talks about BD @ 5:38 & (Orochi) 8:30
Sampling now in volume.
So, that is Orochi for desktop in early summer, and Orochi for server @ late summer.
So we can expect BD in June. Lame. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by JF-AMD
All AMD ever said was Q2, that could be anywhere from beginning of april to late June. The leaked slides and rumor mill showed initial production in April, which I took to be likely an early June launch probably at computex which occurs around that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
i wish amd would share more light on there hardware..
i like Engineering Sample review
Have you read my blog? There is tons of info in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny87au
Hmm, are you volunteering?Quote:
Originally Posted by PatRaceTin
If that is the case, can you also look into if all the 9xx series of chipsets will support IOMMU ?
See, I am not asking much!
:ROTF:
Reading now :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by JF-AMD
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Originally Posted by Kobaltrock
oh no...:( We need destop CPUs think at May latest:confused:
Bulldozer schedules are exactly the same, no change. Q2 for client, Q3 for server.
Hope you wont dissapoint again all amd fans,otherwise i myself will make you a hole and put a cross with your name on it...R.I.P AMD
Just what I guessed. In case of AMD no surprises, when talking about Q1-4, it is always at the very end of what ever quarter they say it will be.
Even the leaked (or faked) slides in the first post in this thread says initial production in april, which points at a launch in june. And depending on yields it might be a paperlaunch.
I too say early june, with my guess at the 2nd of june.
if you need more cores or ECC then bulldozer will please you, otherwise you best not wait around
sandy bridge clocks are unnatural
Hey fella after your: "Yea i can see a 1000$ dollar cpu competing with $300 SB.Amd just suck.Period.They are uncapable of making a capable chip,thats why we have to deal with prices at intel's mercy.So sad ...." comment we get it. We understand. You don't like AMD. Do you really need to keep trolling AMD posts at this point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
Sorry, my bad. Just went from what I remembered. Thanks for correction.Quote:
Originally Posted by JF-AMD
Ah, yes, that makes sense. Thanks! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobaltrock
Why latest? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
AMD will not disappear overnight, no need to overreact... Bulldozer looks promising, so let's wait for it to be benched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
I am really wondering why nobody is showing off AM3+ boards, except that one from MSI?
AFAIK, AM3+ will work with the current CPUs, so the delay is what?
Milking the cows... as usual. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kobaltrock
Why release backward compatible AM3+ boards, when you can sell a AM3 board now and later a AM3+ board for the poor guys who just bought one. :D
NDA, most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobaltrock
it was the same with AM2+.. boards not appearing till a month or so before release IIRC
Yes thats right mate, but wont work the other way around..Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
The processors started sampling late last year. if there aren't enough good engineering samples, then the boards won't be fully optimized for the right processor. The boards are finished, with layouts, heatsinks, and the lot because of compatibility with the previous gen processors and no real change in the chipsets. However, the necessary testing may not be quite complete yet, enough for reliability testing and release. It'll be out soon enough.
I'm not a AMD hater at all, I have some AMD stuff and loved my old Athlons. It just seems I've been hearing about this Bulldozer for years. Has it been delayed a lot or what?
Here's an article from 2007 -
http://www.techradar.com/news/comput...or-2009-146488
That's the 45nm Bulldozer that was canned. This one is a modified version of that design.Faster,better,cheaper :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
Oh I see tx, for the info. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
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Originally Posted by JF-AMD
Just like, "real man have fabs" right ?Quote:
Originally Posted by AMD
Firstly, JF-AMD is not AMD. He just works there. What one person from AMD says is not automatically what JF-AMD says, and vice-versa.
Secondly, that's and old and outdated quote that was made about 45nm Bulldozer, which is now no-longer being made.
SourceQuote:
AMD Reschedules 32nm Product Launch Again: Llano Comes Ahead of Bulldozer.
Advanced Micro Devices this week again reiterated its roadmap for chips to be made using 32nm silicon-on-insulator (SOI) gate-first high-K metal gate (HKMG) process technology. The interim chief exec promised to launch code-named Llano accelerated processing units in Q2 2011, but to delay the highly-expected Bulldozer chips to "summer".
"We have entered a new phase with our 32nm ramp and are now sampling thousands of Llano products to a wide variety of OEMs and ODMs as they prepare for production in Q2," said Thomas Seifert, interim chief executive officer of AMD, during a conference call with financial analysts.
Back in early November it was, reported citing unofficial sources, that AMD would commence commercial manufacturing of code-named Llano accelerated processing units (APUs) for desktops and mobiles in July '11, which is Q3 2011.
Meanwhile, microprocessors with Bulldozer micro-architecture were supposed to hit the mass production sometime in April '11, according to unofficial sources.
"We have begun sampling our 32nm Bulldozer-based Orochi parts in volume with customers worldwide. We expect Orochi for desktops to ship in production in early summer and the Orochi for servers in late summer," said Thomas Seifert, interim chief executive of AMD.
The CEO confirmed that the company had started to ship samples of its microprocessors based on the Bulldozer micro-architecture to customers "in volume". While sampling seems to be on relative schedule, the precise roadmap outlined by the company means delays with mass availability of the chips.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...Bulldozer.html
So, this mean that bulldozer won't come out in April
Wow, you posted literally about 1ms after I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by dartaz
Did AMD say April?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by dartaz
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Originally Posted by JF-AMD
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Originally Posted by Apokalipse
I see, that must have been a majestic plural then.Quote:
Originally Posted by JF-AMD
There was that ever word in the sentence if I am not mistaken, that's why I dared to remind him of their first bulldozer promise. This current promised delivery date could be dropped just as that was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apokalipse
Key words : early summer and late summer. In US early summer is usually regarded as beginning of Memorial Day(May 30) while late summer (or end of summer season) is the end of Labor Day(September 5).
Also,how can they be pulling in Llano ahead of BD for desktop when officially AMD stated : H1 for Llano and Q2 for desktop.Now Llano is Q2 intorduction,so still H1, while BD is Q2 (early summer,probably meaning end of May). They are just one or 2 months apart.
LOL ! What makes you think that it is end of May ?Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
If it it say early summer that doesn't mean it is going to be the first day of early summer (May 30 as you say). I think June (and maybe July) are considered early summer as well.
Read carefully,I said probably.Another key word.
From Bobcat IP to launch was ~2 months or slightly less (IP Nov 2010,launch 2 months later at CES January 6). Zambezi is IP in April.If we take ~2 months as in Bobcat's case,we get to roughly the same time frame which is end of May or beginning of June(still Q2). Computex fits perfectly :
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# COMPUTEX 2010 was held June 1 to June 5 2010.
# COMPUTEX 2009 was held June 2 to June 6 2009.
# COMPUTEX 2008 was held June 3 to June 7 2008 and expanded to TWTC Nangang Exhibition Hall.
# COMPUTEX 2007 was held June 5 to June 9 2007.
# COMPUTEX 2006 was held June 6 to June 10 2006.
# COMPUTEX 2005 was held May 31 to June 4 2005, adding a new feature "Buyer's Day".
# COMPUTEX 2004 was held June 1 to June 5 2004
I was referring specifically to the quote you posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuroimaho
It was a different chip planned for 45nm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuroimaho
The schedules have not changed at all.
Desktop in Q2
Server in Q3
That article is NOT correct, it should not have the word "delay" in it.
There. Can we all just drop this?
llol :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by JF-AMD
All I know is that I'm excited to see BD get released and I'm currently planning to do a rebuild in the fall based around the 8 core chip.
That certainly got the point across. Maybe he should start a thread on this, :p: That way, any ding-dong that wishes to challenge this will have a thread to kick them back into their proper places :DQuote:
Originally Posted by god_43
What I want to know is why Desktop is before Server, you guys usually release Server first. Is it because Desktop seems more important as a larger market?Quote:
Originally Posted by JF-AMD
Let me guess. Server CPU validation is longer and desktop environment is more errata tolerant. I can imagine that the first server Bulldozer will be a never stepping/revision than the first retail desktop model. See Nehalem C0 and D0 steppings for an example.
All this confusion stems probably from the fact, thast some time ago there was information that in april AMD would start production for revenue.
And most folks got the idea it means launch.When it probably means chips being flashed onto the wafers, and getting from there to products in stores takes around 2months,at earliest.
Same reason intel did it... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
SO let me get this right:Quote:
Originally Posted by NhocCuteGirlz
Xbit says Llano is pulled in before BD into Q2 and somehow BD desktop is delayed(this is bull*** as JF-AMD already stated).But bare with me. Now slides according to which (as you say) "Xbit was right" state llano is somehow July(??). So according to Xbit Llano is both early Q2 ("pulled in" before BD) and July ,while BD is late Q2 or whatever they think "delayed" means.... Which is impossible of course.So to me it looks like Xbit is playing the fudzilla game:"predicting" every possible outcome so they are constantly correct. Where I come from it's called bull****.:p:
Desktop is going first because their schedules lined up that way. There is no rule on who goes first, each launch is different, we look at how the schedules line up and figure out who goes first and who goes second.
Plus, if everyone believes that xbit is right about BD being "delayed" then they also have to believe that BD is 50% faster than Intel because xbit said that too, right ;)
im getting the vibe it isnt 50% faster, seeming as xbit has fooked up ><Quote:
Originally Posted by JF-AMD
Hopefully it's more than 50% ;)
50% faster than what? I'll settle for on par with Intel's current offerings. I've always liked AMD, although my posts sometimes tend to not agree with that statement. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
I just hope we can get a BD CPU in late April or early May. :)
Q2 ... Q2 last month is June..
Three Buldozer threads on the first page of the forum. All about nothing.
suprised?... most "news" threads here are about nothing... it would be cool if there would be s rumor sub section... :D
Does that hurt you so much??Quote:
Originally Posted by kl0012
But why 3?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Did I say it hurt me? Actually no. But it against Forum guidelines, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
Nope, you confused that with threadcraping. That is against forum rules, at least those non-written ones, so please stop it and let the moderators do their job.Quote:
Originally Posted by kl0012