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12-21-2010, 01:59 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoota

am i reading this to say there will be no 1066 ram support? even thru dividers?

I don't see why it wouldn't work with 1066's but why use them when 1333 is so cheap( unless you own them)
12-21-2010, 02:11 PM
shoota

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

I don't see why it wouldn't work with 1066's but why use them when 1333 is so cheap( unless you own them)

because of that :)
12-21-2010, 03:24 PM
Johnny87au

Even if you buy say 1866mhz and run them at default wouldnt they be @ 1066?
12-21-2010, 03:33 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny87au

Even if you buy say 1866mhz and run them at default wouldnt they be @ 1066?

1866's would default to 1333 and if you wanted 1866 you'd either set for XMP profile or manually set them.
12-21-2010, 03:47 PM
Johnny87au

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

1866's would default to 1333 and if you wanted 1866 you'd either set for XMP profile or manually set them.

Ah fair enough, on my x58 default is 1066, so 1333 is default for the Sandybridge mobos?
12-21-2010, 03:57 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by Johnny87au

Ah fair enough, on my x58 default is 1066, so 1333 is default for the Sandybridge mobos?

It is with the DDR3-1600 GSKill sticks I used.
bios defaults:
12-21-2010, 07:08 PM
ZoLKoRn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky_n00b

I got the retail i7-2600K already(D2 stepping), but cannot get it past 4.9Ghz.

4.8Ghz @ 1.35V running IBT about 2-hour (on Corsair H70), motherboard is MSI P67A-GD65.

4.9Ghz need 1.5V, a little unstable, but still can do Vantage CPU test/Wprime 1024Ms easy

5Ghz CANNOT Boot at all...no matter what voltage I applied. Already testing on air , testing a lot of various configuration, for about one week and don't seem to get better result. Still cannot boot @ 5Ghz.

And the most confusing experience, it DOESN'T Scale at ALL with LN2(-130C)...wasted 35L already, no result. Triend the same processor on 4 different motherboard(ASUS,GBT,MSI,Intel), no gain.Not even a 100Mhz increase.Nothing.nada.zip

BLCK Scaled a bit from 104Mhz(air) to 110Mhz(LN2), but clockspeed seems the same (4.9Ghz).

So far, SB = Good for air, nightmare for Xtreme overclocker

Look like my chip at 5.0GHz can't boot anyways to windows but it can reboot from bios to post screen always and for stable like you too about 4.8GHz and benching 4.9GHz for now on Intel mobo but my chip bclk is bad only 102MHz :(

ps. waiting to try more with other mobo :)
12-21-2010, 11:06 PM
FlanK3r

but still is 4.9 GHz verynice for evereday using :)....1.5V and extra 100 MHz is not good idea, your 4.8GHz with lower voltage seems better
12-22-2010, 01:59 AM
SpuTnicK

found another short review:
Source
Google Translate

Sorry if this was posted earlier
12-22-2010, 02:34 AM
Johnny87au

thanks for that spu, good comparison between the 2600k and the 875k
12-22-2010, 02:56 AM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD

Wonder how far i5-2500K are gonna clock

Just got my 2500k running last night, it's LinX stable at 4.8GHz 1.33v in bios 1.35 ~ 1.36v Gigabyte easy tune under load. Thats great for me but the best bit is it only just hits 60oc with a 15oC ambient on air!!!

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12-22-2010, 03:05 AM
geo

so will 2500K do 5 ghz on H50?
12-22-2010, 03:08 AM
Johnny87au

Quote:

Originally Posted by geo

so will 2500K do 5 ghz on H50?

Maby, slim chance though, If your aiming for 5ghz better off getting the 2600k
12-22-2010, 03:27 AM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by geo

so will 2500K do 5 ghz on H50?

To early for me to speculate, my board/chip makes 48x100 1.35v easy but 49x100 takes a shoot load more vcore just to get into windows. I have googled a lot about this & most appear to be the same, its either the chips can easily run right up to there max & no more or there's another Intel BCLK type bug!!!

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12-22-2010, 06:44 AM
PatRaceTin

Quote:

Originally Posted by zolkorn

look like my chip at 5.0ghz can't boot anyways to windows but it can reboot from bios to post screen always and for stable like you too about 4.8ghz and benching 4.9ghz for now on intel mobo but my chip bclk is bad only 102mhz :(

ps. Waiting to try more with other mobo :)

อิๆ ท่านซอล แสดงว่าเตรียมปล่อยรีวิวตามวันนัดหมายแล้วดิ???
12-22-2010, 07:15 AM
ZoLKoRn

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatRaceTin

อิๆ ท่านซอล แสดงว่าเตรียมปล่อยรีวิวตามวันนัดหมายแล้วดิ???

Yep if not an accident it should be follow the timing :)

btw. you should type English for here mate ;)
12-23-2010, 12:24 AM
EagleRock

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-N

To early for me to speculate, my board/chip makes 48x100 1.35v easy but 49x100 takes a shoot load more vcore just to get into windows. I have googled a lot about this & most appear to be the same, its either the chips can easily run right up to there max & no more or there's another Intel BCLK type bug!!!

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Are you using dual ram slots with the Megahalem ? is there enough space ?
12-23-2010, 03:15 AM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleRock

Are you using dual ram slots with the Megahalem ? is there enough space ?

See here

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=16

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12-24-2010, 01:48 AM
MACMAC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metroid

Yeah. That reinforces what Anand said, 2500K = 52x. So the 2600K is likely to be = 57x.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Nope, higher!:D

Are you sure about that? ;)
12-24-2010, 02:29 AM
Chri$ch

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACMAC

Are you sure about that? ;)

my 2500K can boot x53 into windows, so max. x52 isn´t true :D

new AIDA shows x63 as maximum Multiplier, the Bios of my DP67BG shows x65.
12-24-2010, 05:06 AM
gr8madmax

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACMAC

Are you sure about that? ;)

No he isn't...other wise he would show us proof. :D:p:
12-24-2010, 11:29 AM
ZoLKoRn

Interesting with new details, Thanks for sharing and i'll try to check on my chip it same or not with your chip ;)
12-24-2010, 11:00 PM
MAS

what about encryption performance of SB?

http://morepic.ru/images/6767666.png
12-25-2010, 02:16 AM
FlanK3r

Thubans are here very impressive!
12-25-2010, 04:31 AM
eXa

Beating the 980x by that amount! :eek:
12-25-2010, 05:14 AM
SpuTnicK

Yet another Chinese review:
Source
Google translate
12-25-2010, 07:53 AM
kl0012

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXa

Beating the 980x by that amount! :eek:

yeah right... i can make tons of home-made charts like this. :down:
12-25-2010, 08:09 AM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by kl0012

yeah right... i can make tons of home-made charts like this. :down:

In that particular benchmark it is actually faster.
12-25-2010, 08:29 AM
kl0012

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

In that particular benchmark it is actually faster.

proof?
12-25-2010, 10:08 AM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by kl0012

proof?

It's Phoronix open test suit(runs under linux).Results are summed up here.
12-25-2010, 10:56 AM
kl0012

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

It's Phoronix open test suit(runs under linux).Results are summed up here.

amdzone as an source of information - it is not even funny. just check the results - different versions of test suites, compilers and benchmarks.
12-25-2010, 11:18 AM
-=DVS=-

Well it all comes down to encryption used, if you use industry's standard AES encryption , Intel has build in hardware acceleration, nothing even comes close to speed gains, if i am not mistaken all Intel 32nm CPUs will have AES acceleration.

A 2xCore i5-650 with AES beats 12xCore opteron by ~2.48 times, and sandy bridge takes it to a new level.
You could have your OS and all partitions encrypted with AES and you would not even notice performance hit. For a regular Joe it doesn't matter but for those who want it its awesome.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/9595/capturetp.jpg
12-25-2010, 11:25 AM
Movieman

Where can I grab that benchmark?
I have a 2x12 core(6168) AMD MC system, a 2x6 core Westmere(X5680) system and a almost running SB system to test this on.:D
12-25-2010, 11:52 AM
BrowncoatGR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Where can I grab that benchmark?
I have a 2x12 core(6168) AMD MC system, a 2x6 core Westmere(X5680) system and a almost running SB system to test this on.:D

http://phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=home Also runs under windows now i think
or you could get OpenSSL and manually try the bench http://www.madboa.com/geek/openssl/#benchmark-speed
http://www.openssl.org/
http://www.slproweb.com/products/Win32OpenSSL.html
12-25-2010, 11:57 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrowncoatGR

http://phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=home Also runs under windows now i think

Hope so, all three of those machines are on win7 Ent.
12-25-2010, 12:08 PM
kl0012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Where can I grab that benchmark?
I have a 2x12 core(6168) AMD MC system, a 2x6 core Westmere(X5680) system and a almost running SB system to test this on.:D

In fact, testing RSA is pretty useless. Asymmetric-key algorithms (such as RSA) usually aren't used in performance critical encryption. The main purpose of RSA algorithm is to establish secure connection between server and client and then to exchange a cipher keys. After that any of symmetric-key algorithms (DES, AES e.t.c) are used to exchange actual data.
12-25-2010, 12:12 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by kl0012

In fact, testing RSA is pretty useless. Asymmetric-key algorithms (such as RSA) usually aren't used in performance critical encryption. The main purpose of RSA algorithm is to establish secure connection between server and client and then to exchange a cipher keys. After that any of symmetric-key algorithms (DES, AES e.t.c) are used to exchange actual data.

Good, so in a week or two when I decipher what you just wrote I'll be able to make decisions on what to run.:rofl:

( Yes,just teasing,I understand what you wrote):D
12-25-2010, 12:43 PM
MAS

Quote:

Originally Posted by kl0012

proof?

see http://translate.google.com/translat...d%3D7361744320
12-25-2010, 01:00 PM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by kl0012

amdzone as an source of information - it is not even funny. just check the results - different versions of test suites, compilers and benchmarks.

No amdzone is just a link where one poster summed the actual results(and you know this,you are just using amdzone as an excuse when you are confronted with actual data). You can search for i7 results,they are pretty consistent as long as 64 bit version of linux is used(no matter what distribution).Also the test suite version has to be the same or similar subversion(as 2.00 vs 2.00.b2).Same goes for AMD X4/X6.

Example
(phoronix test suite 2.0.0) :
http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...807-9811-25231
2 i7s @ 2.67Ghz compared on 2 diff. gnome kernels(x64),GCC 4.4.1 - result :199

(phoronix test suite 2.0.0b2)
http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...45-12535-29612
1 i7 @ 2.67 on ubuntu 9.04 (x64),GCC 4.3.3 - result : 191.8

Pretty consistent result for i7 at the same clock,the difference is ~3% even though the OS,compiler and the test suite version are not the same(test suit version is the closest match i could get).
12-25-2010, 01:18 PM
Aberration

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=DVS=-

Well it all comes down to encryption used, if you use industry's standard AES encryption , Intel has build in hardware acceleration, nothing even comes close to speed gains, if i am not mistaken all Intel 32nm CPUs will have AES acceleration.

A 2xCore i5-650 with AES beats 12xCore opteron by ~2.48 times, and sandy bridge takes it to a new level.
You could have your OS and all partitions encrypted with AES and you would not even notice performance hit. For a regular Joe it doesn't matter but for those who want it its awesome.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/9595/capturetp.jpg

I got a lot of important and valuable information on my work laptop. There are certain countries that I do not trust leaving it unlocked, but things happen.

Have not tried it all yet, but its on the agenda. Not noticing any performance hit would be nice.
12-25-2010, 05:47 PM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

No amdzone is just a link where one poster summed the actual results(and you know this,you are just using amdzone as an excuse when you are confronted with actual data). You can search for i7 results,they are pretty consistent as long as 64 bit version of linux is used(no matter what distribution).Also the test suite version has to be the same or similar subversion(as 2.00 vs 2.00.b2).Same goes for AMD X4/X6.

Example
(phoronix test suite 2.0.0) :
http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...807-9811-25231
2 i7s @ 2.67Ghz compared on 2 diff. gnome kernels(x64),GCC 4.4.1 - result :199

(phoronix test suite 2.0.0b2)
http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...45-12535-29612
1 i7 @ 2.67 on ubuntu 9.04 (x64),GCC 4.3.3 - result : 191.8

Pretty consistent result for i7 at the same clock,the difference is ~3% even though the OS,compiler and the test suite version are not the same(test suit version is the closest match i could get).

If you compile openssl with AES-NI enable, it can yield up to 12x the performance improvment...

http://software.intel.com/en-us/arti...ith-intel-ipp/

So if you want to run openssl and intel just compile it right... the same way goes for amd...

Thats the fun part about open source software.. but they arn't exactly benchmark friendly since you can customize them so much and nothing is standardized.
12-26-2010, 12:33 AM
BrowncoatGR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornet331

If you compile openssl with AES-NI enable, it can yield up to 12x the performance improvment...

http://software.intel.com/en-us/arti...ith-intel-ipp/

So if you want to run openssl and intel just compile it right... the same way goes for amd...

Thats the fun part about open source software.. but they arn't exactly benchmark friendly since you can customize them so much and nothing is standardized.

While that is true, that particular algorithm is not based on AES and it wouldn't have made a difference. It's just a corner case that fits AMDs design more than Intel's.
12-26-2010, 06:19 PM
GoldenTiger

Noob question: Is 1.5v DDR3 required for "stock" operation? What is the "safe" voltage for DDR3 on sandy bridge (with i7 920 C0 it was 1.65v or so)? I.E. if I'm shopping for RAM, I know "stock" is 1333. Current RAM I have is 3x2GB...
12-26-2010, 06:44 PM
xVeinx

There is newer low voltage ram on the horizon, and I'm wondering if that will be preferred for SB. At the very least, it will run cooler than some of the ram out currently...
12-26-2010, 07:04 PM
GoldenTiger

Quote:

Originally Posted by xVeinx

There is newer low voltage ram on the horizon, and I'm wondering if that will be preferred for SB. At the very least, it will run cooler than some of the ram out currently...

Any idea if it's coming in time for SB?
12-26-2010, 08:31 PM
Johnny87au

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Noob question: Is 1.5v DDR3 required for "stock" operation? What is the "safe" voltage for DDR3 on sandy bridge (with i7 920 C0 it was 1.65v or so)? I.E. if I'm shopping for RAM, I know "stock" is 1333. Current RAM I have is 3x2GB...

Really depends on what dimms you pick up, I always run @ rated speed, mine is 1.65, You should just run them at spec no matter what.. unless you really increase the MHZ where you need a voltage bump ;)
12-26-2010, 09:05 PM
Silver Bullet

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Any idea if it's coming in time for SB?

I wondered this also; but I noticed that a lot of the Corsair Dominator series is OOS. Which I find weird with SB launch so close. I think Corsair has something up it's sleeve for SB.
12-26-2010, 10:23 PM
Sgt.McRuff

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Any idea if it's coming in time for SB?

Some 1.35v memory is on newegg already... idk if you want lower. ;)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=&srchInDesc=

btw i have used with out problems gkills 2x4gb 1333 and 1600 kits and 2x 2gb 1333 kits. Both on i5/i7 and my 1055t.
12-26-2010, 10:55 PM
GoldenTiger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny87au

Really depends on what dimms you pick up, I always run @ rated speed, mine is 1.65, You should just run them at spec no matter what.. unless you really increase the MHZ where you need a voltage bump ;)

What I mean is, with nehalem 1.65v was the max supposedly for the imc. Is there a similar thing for sb?

Thanks for your replies all. :)
12-26-2010, 10:58 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt.McRuff

Some 1.35v memory is on newegg already... idk if you want lower. ;)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=&srchInDesc=

btw i have used with out problems gkills 2x4gb 1333 and 1600 kits and 2x 2gb 1333 kits. Both on i5/i7 and my 1055t.

Same and XMP profile shows up in bios on the Intel Burrage board..No issues with that 2x4 gig kit.
Haven't tried my Corsair GTX2's yet, thats next.
12-27-2010, 06:57 PM
deathelement

Does anyone know what vDimm voltage should be at? Is 1.65v safe or is 1.5v necessary?
12-27-2010, 09:30 PM
pausert20

If the memory is XMP certified then it will almost certainly be rated to run at 1.65V. I believe Intel does not recommend going above 1.65V on the last 2 Processor generations. It started with the X58 motherboards and has carried on through today. I have seen several XMP modules running on a Series 6 motherboard and those modules requested 1.65V.
12-28-2010, 08:54 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathelement

Does anyone know what vDimm voltage should be at? Is 1.65v safe or is 1.5v necessary?

Safe and I am sure you can go higher. The vDIMM limits are a myth for X58, so...
12-28-2010, 12:17 PM
xVeinx

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Any idea if it's coming in time for SB?

Yes, they are coming out around the time of SB. They're already starting to trickle out, but Kingston and others should have theirs out soon.
12-28-2010, 12:17 PM
cpuz

Hello,

For all who will review the new Intel Sandy Brige processor line, we've released a kit that includes some of our tools, plus a version of AIDA64, all updated for the new processor line.

The kit includes :
- CPU-Z 1.56.1
- HWMonitor 1.17.1
- TMonitor 1.03.1
- AIDA64 Extreme Edition 1.50.1200

Noticeable features are :
- Sandy Bridge cores temperature and power meter (HWMonitor)
- Improved clock report (CPU-Z)
- Turbo activation / remove (TMonitor)
- Support for UEFI BIOSes (all)
- AVX accelerated benchmarsk (AIDA64)

You can dwonload the kit at that address :
http://www.cpuid.com/medias/files/so...viewer_Kit.zip
12-28-2010, 12:20 PM
Buckeye

Thanks :up:
12-28-2010, 12:21 PM
hiwa

wow nice Franck, thanks for great job :up:
12-28-2010, 12:50 PM
C-N

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Originally Posted by cpuz

Hello,

For all who will review the new Intel Sandy Brige processor line, we've released a kit that includes some of our tools, plus a version of AIDA64, all updated for the new processor line.

The kit includes :
- CPU-Z 1.56.1
- HWMonitor 1.17.1
- TMonitor 1.03.1
- AIDA64 Extreme Edition 1.50.1200

Firstly thanks for this & secondly a few observations..

CPU-Z still reports vcore incorrectly & HWMonitor voltages are out too.

Edit Interestingly TMonitor reports my 2500K in a C state & only when you load the system do you get full core speed.... will have to look into this its all off in BIOS.
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12-28-2010, 01:49 PM
olDirdey

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Originally Posted by C-N

...CPU-Z still reports vcore incorrectly & HWMonitor voltages are out too...

Maybe it depends on the used mainboard. I am using a P8P67 Evo and the voltages shown correct in cpu-z and hwmonitor.
12-28-2010, 01:52 PM
Chri$ch

yeah, on gigabyte P67 boards is the voltage reading wrong.
12-28-2010, 02:05 PM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by olDirdey

Maybe it depends on the used mainboard. I am using a P8P67 Evo and the voltages shown correct in cpu-z and hwmonitor.

Maybe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

yeah, on gigabyte P67 boards is the voltage reading wrong.

Yes

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12-31-2010, 09:48 AM
C-N

CPU-Z core voltage is looking at qpi/vtt voltage on my GA-P67A-UD5 dont know if its a bios issue or a CPU-Z issue but thats how it is.

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12-31-2010, 10:47 AM
EagleRock

Only 5 days left :D
12-31-2010, 11:07 AM
MAS

2500K Cinebench 11.5 http://s008.radikal.ru/i304/1012/cd/1e14e1fa1bf1t.jpg

2600K - http://s003.radikal.ru/i201/1012/95/92614739409dt.jpg
12-31-2010, 01:29 PM
Chri$ch

i love sandy bridge really...

this is my aircooled 2600K on a Intel DP67BG mainboard :D

http://www.abload.de/img/5.49ghz-1m_rem57a.png

http://www.abload.de/img/5.49ghz-32m_re0548.png
12-31-2010, 01:35 PM
Movieman

Chri$ch:
Did I tell you today that I hate you!:rofl:
12-31-2010, 01:37 PM
zalbard

That's higher clock than the clock of i7 920 SP1M WR... Which was done with LN2...
Epic.
12-31-2010, 01:39 PM
M.Beier

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

i love sandy bridge really...

this is my aircooled 2600K on a Intel DP67BG mainboard :D

http://www.abload.de/img/5.49ghz-1m_rem57a.png

http://www.abload.de/img/5.49ghz-32m_re0548.png

I think that I just came in my pants :(

I expected 5ghz 8t stable with water, seems it will not let me down, bujah
12-31-2010, 02:13 PM
FlanK3r

omg...Cgrisch...maybe to much vcore-a bit dangerous with aircooling, but still impressive score! How can u run highest Cinebench at air?:)
12-31-2010, 03:20 PM
EagleRock

Jaw dropping clock :shocked::shocked:
12-31-2010, 03:59 PM
kuroikenshi

I was gonna wait for am3+.... mayne not anymore, wow that's a whole 1.4GHz jump per core from my w/c current 750, dunno who said it here before, but 1156 truly did oc like crappola compared to this
12-31-2010, 05:15 PM
xVeinx

Has anyone tested performance in linux yet?
12-31-2010, 08:09 PM
aussie-revhead

Is it known yet if retail is expected to clock as well as D1 ES ? Retail is D2 right ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

omg...Cgrisch...maybe to much vcore-a bit dangerous with aircooling, but still impressive score! How can u run highest Cinebench at air?:)

yep that may work in your icey european winter but its 40+c here today so I wont be using near 1.6 even with water cooling.

:up:
12-31-2010, 09:47 PM
Manicdan

has anyone determined the max safe voltage for 24/7 use or what kind of voltage is needed for a typical and decent OC?
12-31-2010, 11:09 PM
PatRaceTin

I dream about 5Ghz++ for daily use!!!
01-01-2011, 01:38 AM
Drwho?

yeap, the process technology used is amazing ... Let's try to wait CES to do a firework of numbers ... ;-)

we got some more good news about OC coming at CES.

Francois
01-01-2011, 01:42 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

yeap, the process technology used is amazing ... Let's try to wait CES to do a firework of numbers ... ;-)

we got some more good news about OC coming at CES.

Francois

Does that mean I can bring my 2600K and you can show me how to OC it?:rofl:
OOPS! Did I say I had a 2600K?
I mean,ahh, when they go retail I will then know how to OC it based on your vast knowledge!:D
01-01-2011, 01:52 AM
Andrea deluxe

edit
omg I need my UD4 from germany
01-01-2011, 01:59 AM
Drwho?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Does that mean I can bring my 2600K and you can show me how to OC it?:rofl:
OOPS! Did I say I had a 2600K?
I mean,ahh, when they go retail I will then know how to OC it based on your vast knowledge!:D

:ROTF: Bottom line ... The people who predicted the end of OC were wrong again ...

IF you cross Mike Moen, you guys can tell him a big thanks, he spent with the OC task force an incredible amount of time hunting , issues per issues, transistors per transistors every thing that can go in the way of overclocking.
At the end, we get something that will please everybody ...

We would appreciate that even if you are not under NDA, and you got something, that everybody respect the CES 1st day as day to start speaking about it , we worked out A.s off on this, behond anything we did before, give us some credit, and let us have a Magic day the day of launch, that would be good for us.

Play with us ;-) , and let it be a big firework!!!

Francois
01-01-2011, 02:06 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

:ROTF: Bottom line ... The people who predicted the end of OC were wrong again ...

IF you cross Mike Moen, you guys can tell him a big thanks, he spent with the OC task force an incredible amount of time hunting , issues per issues, transistors per transistors every thing that can go in the way of overclocking.
At the end, we get something that will please everybody ...

We would appreciate that even if you are not under NDA, and you got something, that everybody respect the CES 1st day as day to start speaking about it , we worked out A.s off on this, behond anything we did before, give us some credit, and let us have a Magic day the day of launch, that would be good for us.

Play with us ;-) , and let it be a big firework!!!

Francois

NDA? What's a NDA?:D
I am going to say one thing about this cpu as it relates to us crunching guys and this isn't something that should bother you Intel guys:
This is the most electrically efficient chip based on computational power vs electrical draw I've seen.
01-01-2011, 03:10 AM
SoF

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

We would appreciate that even if you are not under NDA, and you got something, that everybody respect the CES 1st day as day to start speaking about it , we worked out A.s off on this, behond anything we did before, give us some credit, and let us have a Magic day the day of launch, that would be good for us.

Play with us ;-) , and let it be a big firework!!!

Francois

:up: Some shops in Germany need their asses busted - they sold CPUs end of 2010 to end users...hope there will be some legal action taken by Intel. NDA and MOA are important to let everybody have the same chance when the sales start - I got really annoyed when I saw them selling the chips.

I am sitting on 8 CPUs but I did not post any screens yet, neither did I sold any of thoose CPUs. I am working for an Intel Premium Partner and have them for own testing and of course reviewing. I could have been a rich man by now if I would have sold the CPUs like those ************** shops in Germany...but no I wanna play with you guys :yepp:
01-01-2011, 03:20 AM
RPGWiZaRD

Well unfortunately we already have very good idea whereabouts the OCs will land at due to quite a few guys that isn't under NDA has posted results already, good for aircooling users, not so fun for LN2...

I'd be more interested in hearing Intel's and motherboard makers point of view, why I should still invest in a highend motherboard for a socket 1155 platform despite limited BCLK capabilities? That would be my first question to ask.
01-01-2011, 03:57 AM
Metroid

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD

I'd be more interested in hearing Intel's and motherboard makers point of view, why I should still invest in a highend motherboard for a socket 1155 platform despite limited BCLK capabilities? That would be my first question to ask.

Durability or 24/7? Gigabyte has been marketing it for years and now finally branded it :D
01-01-2011, 04:01 AM
FlanK3r

dr Whoo: What news about OC? Do u mean Z68 chipset for non K-chips?
01-02-2011, 01:52 PM
Aladdin

What is the highest 2500k can do guys ? about 110 bucks is the difference between 2600k and 2500k, but if the 2500k can go up to 4500Mhz+ , I think its good enough for 220$ ?
01-02-2011, 02:06 PM
flopper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aladdin

What is the highest 2500k can do guys ? about 110 bucks is the difference between 2600k and 2500k, but if the 2500k can go up to 4500Mhz+ , I think its good enough for 220$ ?

same as 2600k
or a tad lower.
its a toss up and I count 4.7ghz as minimum with OC.
01-02-2011, 02:36 PM
Aladdin

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopper

same as 2600k
or a tad lower.
its a toss up and I count 4.7ghz as minimum with OC.

Sound interesting, cause my brother is about to get me 2500k or 2600k in malaysia soon, so I have to decide to spend the money on 2500k and a expensive mobo , or 2600k and ... a decent mobo ?
01-02-2011, 03:13 PM
Eastcoasthandle

Will we need new mounting hardware (backplate, etc) for SB? Does it resuse the same mounting holes as the 1156?
01-02-2011, 03:17 PM
TiN_

Eastcoasthandle

No, 1156 HSF's fit
01-02-2011, 03:20 PM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiN_EOF

Eastcoasthandle

No, 1156 HSF's fit

Good info, thanks. Perhaps I missed the posts but is there any information regarding temps idle/load, OC?

Edit:
Hmm, found this post so far
01-02-2011, 03:21 PM
generics_user

still disappointed by the lack of bclk overclocking, you can say bye bye to the times when we bought 40$ chips and clocked the hell out of them (my sister has one of my old E2140s and it runs at 3.4ghz under air (over 100% overclock), my own second rig goes to 3.5ghz with ease)

intel killed low-end overclocking as we know it with this platform and i don't like it...
01-02-2011, 04:25 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by generics_user

still disappointed by the lack of bclk overclocking, you can say bye bye to the times when we bought 40$ chips and clocked the hell out of them (my sister has one of my old E2140s and it runs at 3.4ghz under air (over 100% overclock), my own second rig goes to 3.5ghz with ease)

intel killed low-end overclocking as we know it with this platform and i don't like it...

Maybe another way to look at it:
You can now buy a $300 chip, under $200 board, 2 sticks of DDR3 that will smoke a i7-920,930,950, run cooler and use 1/2 the electric.
Yea, I think its an improvement.:D
01-02-2011, 04:33 PM
slaveondope

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Maybe another way to look at it:
You can now buy a $300 chip, under $200 board, 2 sticks of DDR3 that will smoke a i7-920,930,950, run cooler and use 1/2 the electric.
Yea, I think its an improvement.:D

Do go on:yepp: I got some scraps from you stats but I wonder the details:D, like clocks, power consumption, etc...:shrug:

Help a cruncher out if you can, well we know you would if you could:)
01-02-2011, 08:59 PM
miahallen

[Review] ASUS Maximus IV Extreme & Core i7 2600K – Overclocking On P67 (Part 1/2)
:D

http://www.techreaction.net/wp-conte...E_studio-1.jpg

http://www.techreaction.net/wp-conte...tability-5.png

^^^ That's on air :eek:
01-02-2011, 09:11 PM
Spectrobozo

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/t...i3-2100-tested
http://www.techspot.com/review/353-i...-corei7-2600k/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...500k,2833.html
http://pcper.com/article.php?aid=1057
01-02-2011, 09:15 PM
SKYMTL

Our review will be up tomorrow morning. After Intel pulled in their launch (maybe because of the AMD chips launching on the 4th? ;) ) we chose to postpone in order to release content that fit our standards.
01-02-2011, 09:28 PM
onethreehill

http://www.legionhardware.com/articl..._bridge,1.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1501/1/
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=1057
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/I..._i5_2500K_GPU/
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...ridge-review/1
http://techgage.com/article/intels_s...600k_reviewed/
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=664&Itemid=63
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=622&Itemid=63
http://www.bjorn3d.com/articles/Inte...pset/1972.html
http://www.lostcircuits.com/mambo//i...id=98&Itemid=1
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/p...-sandy-bridge/
01-02-2011, 09:48 PM
deathelement

Can someone clarify the turbo overclocking? So SB overclocks revert back to the standard multiplier and only activates to the turbo multiplier upon load? So what Asus includes as "C3 and C6 report off" simply turns off the reporting of C3/C6 states so it seems like it's always at full speed but it's not?
01-02-2011, 10:15 PM
JumpingJack

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYMTL

Our review will be up tomorrow morning. After Intel pulled in their launch (maybe because of the AMD chips launching on the 4th? ;) ) we chose to postpone in order to release content that fit our standards.

Good move. I will be sure to give it a read and your site a hit.

Jack
01-02-2011, 11:28 PM
Johnny87au

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aladdin

Sound interesting, cause my brother is about to get me 2500k or 2600k in malaysia soon, so I have to decide to spend the money on 2500k and a expensive mobo , or 2600k and ... a decent mobo ?

i'd say 2600k over a expensive motherboard.., grab a giga board as they seem to push further atm..

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