I have ABP and have had it for a long time ;) its more of the lack of concern for the community and even more so the paying members that gets me.
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I have ABP and have had it for a long time ;) its more of the lack of concern for the community and even more so the paying members that gets me.
Looks like we have to put pressure on the administrating team to change things.
I think that's what gets under my skin the most too... "site supporter" was just initiated this past year. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/payments.php
I dont understand the need for the new aggressive ad campaign.
it's easily enough rectified for everyone, even the public without a xs user or site supporter can browse ad free as a guest with ad block or noscript. but still, the no announcement to members and no instructions on what site supporters need to do to block the ads, is a pretty big screw up in my book.
My site support annual payment takes me through til Feb 2010, at which point I probably will not donate again. and I usually donate to all the sites I visit daily. I consider it like a magazine subscription once a yr, but after the way this ad campaign was handled, I dont think I'll donate next yr.
hold your horses. the last time the ads went down the hill like that it took some time as well, but fugger responded and pulled the ads later on.
i agree with everyone about the ads here, but don't trounce fugger & co yet. i'm pretty sure this thread didn't go unnoticed and he'll take care of our complaints, because i also think these scam ads aren't in fugger's interest either.
This reminds of that Simpsons episode where Homer ran the Nuclear Power Plant through the computer and he left the diving bird ornament hitting the tab key,
Atleast the bird tried.
Still no response.
what ads are we talking about?
Yeah, ABP + FireFox = no ads, so this isn't such a huge issue for those offended by the ads, who have an easy solution.
The bigger problem is that yet another rewrite of the board coding to add in the ads has reintroduced an old problem - the whole page is one huge table again meaning the table cell widths must line up. So now any post that has a wide picture in skews ALL the posts on the page, meaning the page has to be horizontally scrolled to read EVERY member post on that page.
This needs to be reverted ASAP - each member post needs to be its own table independent of all the others, so that they fit the window width and can be read without scrolling, and only the wide photo posts then need horizontal scrolling. Horizontal scrolling for EVERY post is simply unacceptable.
Fugger, where the heck are you?
arent the ads there to help us out? you know give us some offers? im earning £45/ hour now, and have just had my teeth whightened.
i think there great
I've had the same thing happen to me. I've also been sitting here in a dead silent room with my headphones on listening to some quiet music. The ad's go off and it's like "CONGRATULATIONS YOU'VE WON A N IPOD" at 9000 Volume and I scream and wake the entire house up. :( I can't help it.
I live in the US and use Firefox with adblock plus and it does not block out this horrible :banana::banana::banana::banana:. As soon as I come to this site a voice comes on telling me that I won a 1,000 Walmart gift card and then 5 minutes later a voice tells me that I was selected for a special gift. As a paying member of this community I would like to see this sleazy and desperate attempt to generate funds stop immediately.
Thank you Mike that was very helpfull
Dear god, please make the talking ads stop. They make me want to punch my monitor.
I was listening to music w/ my headphones and had the volume up and I was scared out of my pants when one of those ads played.
Ummm... what? No script just disables js. As long as you visit decent sites you don't need it, in fact having it will only cause problems. ABP solves the ad issue for this site and others very well. Just make sure you add the right subscriptions. You can also manually block ads or add that section to the subscription. I am subscribed to Easylist and I never saw any ads. I manually disabled them once I heard about them since they were content relevant and not annoying, but these are kind of ridiculous.
The creator of NS is also kind of a :banana::banana::banana::banana:. He purposefully "updates" (no actual changes) NS frequently so that you view the NS homepage and he makes ad revenue. He also used to make NS disable ABP on his site until the ABP creators discovered it and he got into a lot of hot water.
there's no use to make ABP and NS competitors, rivals etc... both are brilliant extensions, period. Other considerations, yeah :rolleyes:
ps:and both can be used to block ads (keyword with ABP is ABP Element Hiding Helper, a cool add-on...to this add-on :D ).
I have no issues at all with running ads, but the sound ones kill me too. I had a really embarrassing incident with that the other day at a big client's office in a cube. "Hey, you've won an iPod!" or something. I was able to laugh it off, but it was awkward.
As a forum owner myself for over ten years, I know it's a lot to keep after. I say more power to Fugger if he can get a bit of payback for providing such a great community home base. If ads can help him out in any way I say go for it. My only peep of a request would be to limit it to no sound ads.
Good luck!
my instructions work, trust me... you surgically kill the scripts for adjuggler and it kills the entire process. no more annoying audio ads or ads in the upper right of the page.
you may have a solution, but dont knock noscript and tell people it doesn't work, you dont know what you're talking about. it does...
I'm not saying it doesn't work, I am just saying blocking ads isn't the purpose of it. Think of it like fixing a photograph, you should use Lightroom not Photoshop. Both programs work, but Photoshop isn't (any longer) designed for photography. If you want to use it I have no issues.
you're painting semantics.. it doesn't matter. you block the script the ad is using and it blocks the ad. period.
I dunno why you're on your high horse about semantics of what to use.
if you're so gung ho about claiming your way is right and everyone elses is wrong, then write up a tutorial on how yours is so superior.
less mouth, more results.
Why are you guys fighting with each other? It's not even the purpose of this thread. Work together to get this ad problem solved. ;)
I wonder if everyone spammed Fugger, the admins, and mod's, if that would get their attention. :rolleyes:
I was never trying to fight, don't take what I say personally. I am also not trying to say my way is better than yours, your way just worries me and I will tell you why.
NoScript is designed as a security tool, not an adblocking tool. NoScript's own site states this and recommends using ABP for blocking ads with NS for security. The NS page mentions specifically that it is designed to guard you against XSS and clickjacking. The implementation of such a security system is very different from one that blocks ads. NS also has the ability to disable js and crucial site features. For this reason I don't recommend people who don't understand how NS works to play around with it.
ABP, on the other hand, is an easy to use fully functional ad blocker. This video demonstrates how to install it and set it up (certainly less than 1min). Easylist automatically blocked everything, but if it doesn't you can always manually block things with the little block tab that appears (disable-able/enable-able feature). Element hiding helper ads even more functionality.
My comments on the NS creator were more to let people know that he may do some slightly grey area stuff with the add-on and there is a list of incompatibilities.
I had no idea I was fighting, I certainly wasn't trying too.
Thx for all the recommendations in the thread, whether there is debating going on or not. I'm a complete noob on the ad-blocking subject but this has proved useful to me, for way more than this site. I used to have the REALLY ANNOYING audio ads popping up all over the place on other sites, but now they're dead.
Thank you for the tips.....:up:
As to this site, I think the message may have been heard? I didn't care about the ads on top and bottom of the page, but the ones I had popping up on the right side of the screen, with no way to close them, really got me. I (knocks-on-wood) have not seen another one of those yet.
I'm a "paid-up" member until 2049, by the advertised rates, so I expect nothing to block my access to the meat of this site. Namely the forum content.....The top and bottom I could care less about. ......I could use some teeth whitening though....:ROTF:
Regards to all,
Bob
i noticed that the site is loading a lot slower now, would be nice to see some of the ad money be used for better hardware/connectivity.
i'm also concerned that more and more people will just block the ads and some people might leave for good, which will hurt the forums a lot
using leased hardware in a datacenter i estimate the operating costs at max. usd 400 per month, the ad from gigabyte alone should be able to cover that. also afaik fugger is using his own hardware and his work's internet connectivity, so cost should be lower ?
sorry about the debate and conflict with faster 3200. but he is right in the regard that adblock plus works fine too, if you configure it properly. in fact you can use "ANY" method you want to block the flash ad in the upper right on this site, THEY KEY BEING THE SOURCE [adjuggler.com] - block that and the flash ads go bye bye.
same deal with noscript, it has to be configured properly, and is why I posted specific instructions on how to block the flash ad in the upper right of the page at xs on pg 4 of this thread using noscript http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...75#post4092875
but since faster3200 has not bothered to post specific simple instructions for blocking the flash ads at xs using his preferred method ABP. I will, here's a ss with instructions and link for dl.
dl ABP https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 or http://adblockplus.org/en/
then add "adjuggler.com" to the filter. this will stop the flash ads in the upper right at xs.
http://i35.tinypic.com/5pr2n7.jpg
personally, I like noscript because it is a much more powerful tool and can block many more dangerous scripts besides ads. so you get a very powerful tool with noscript, but it has to be configured just like every other piece of software. same with ABP.
but like I said any script or ad blocker that can block "adjuggler.com" will accomplish this purpose at xs-it will kill the flash ads in the upper right.
Let's just stop this whole discussion of what way is better. It doesn't matter, the only thing that matters in this situation is stopping "adjuggler.com" when visiting XS. you do that you stop the flash ads, I dont care what you use to do it.
if you do have a different method, at least post some instructions and source for the users that need help getting it to work, that's all I'm really saying. dont be the knowitall guy that comes in spouts off a bunch of info and leaves no instructions for others. who does help other than your own ego.
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now all that being said, have yall disabled your blockers recently? I just did and did not see any talking ads. so the "talking ads" issue may already be resolved.
nope just today i got the laughing smileys :rolleyes: my boss heard it and came over, he sacked me on the spot and told me to clear my desk.
on the way home in my car i wasnt watching what i was doing and rear rammed a car, he will be claiming on my insurance for that.
when i finaly got home a note was waiting for me, my wife has left me and taken my two daughters to live with my best mate........who is a girl :mad:
added to this i might have fried my graphics card............
heads over to the Nvidia section
i blame FUGGER for everything
oh my god, I feel so sorry for you :rofl:
Apparently Fugger has been ill for weeks hence why we haven't heard anything from him. I'm sure he'll look into this as soon as he recovers.
Meanwhile, you can go to the ORIGINAL POST if you want to say get well.
Fixing ads now
I will do database checks and backup tonight, I am just glad nothing failed while I was away. We should be back up to speed soon.
Thanks! And hope you get back to 100% soon.
As for better relevance to the site can't complain too much about Gigabyte, Adobe and Blizzard ads. At least compared to some we've had recently.
thank you so much FUGGER.
hope you feel better.
Welcome back fugger!
Thank you Fugger, hope your feeling better :up:
Thank you very much for addressing the issue Fugger. Certainly hope you get back to 100% soon!
Okay, i dont want to sound annoying....
But these banners fricken have sound... and i don't want to know that i've won any prizes and that i've been selected for a walmart giftcard. frankly, i unblocked XS because i wanted to support XS.... but these ads are getting more intrusive by the day and im being more inclined to block them.
Well, after having two audio ads again tonight within less than a minute of browsing these forums (while listening to music) I have decided I no longer wish to visit here. Use adblocker or other crap I have to install? Why should everyone who doesn't want to be annoyed greatly each have to fix this for themselves, the administration here should just remove this BS.
Bye.
I think that by having a subscription to XS, one should not have to deal with any ads at all. I personally don't like them anywhere on the Internet, but to see them on a site that I pay to help support is grating.
I really don't understand how the people without ABP use the rest of the web. If I take it off I am annoyed on most sites I visit.
Yeah, I'd be totally fine with ads as long as they didn't have damn automatic sounds. Ridiculous!! Luckily, I've successfully blocked them out using the privoxy solution from Chrome linked above. Linking again for convenience: http://lifehacker.com/5046529/how-to...-google-chrome
Those Ads (more like AIDS) are talking, and to be honest I would be more than happy to donate a few bucks to help out XS just to make things less noisy around here. I just want to be able to talk on Skype, listen to music with out being trolled by these scams for ADs. (Suggestion: I wouldn't mind banners advertising computer components. It would be much better than work at home scam ads and free iPhones.) I do thank you XS for not resorting to inteletext or what ever that pops up when you roll over certain words)
For now i am rage quitting !! BYE
Just for everyone who has not read Fuggers response and might not be aware, he is attempting to remove the audio ads. Give him some slack though - he was pretty ill recently and presumably has some other things to do right now in terms of getting his affairs back on track and from what I can tell it sounds like removing the ads is a largely manual process.
do we have to understand that the site has been savagely hacked with talking ads and scams while the owner was away? is that the explanation :confused: :D
The provider of the ads probably switched them without permission while he was away...at least I'm getting predominately Dell ads now, as much as I hate them.
If I were the owner I'd be feeling like getting more rest because I couldn't even get sick without a bunch of crying nerds having a fit over small things. :D
XS is really on the decline lately; this is just another episode of the gradual decline in overall quality of the site. Hey! We're all here at the pleasure of the site owner so what can we do? It's truly sad.
yeah...:rolleyes: hey, XS's up and running, so that's business as usual, why even bother posting :clap:
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Originally Posted by governor
The wonder of website moderation at its best. :up:
:down: Don't no if this has been said before, but DON'T GET HAD BY THE WHITE TEETH ADD! This is one of the biggest cons on the internet! Don't take my word for it, just google 'white teeth con'. You'll find loads of people that have lost loads of money looking for a whiter smile.....:down:
I completely understand bills need to be paid, but when you have a script audio Ad interrupting my music while browsing asking if i want to win a free wii, that's when the line has been crossed, Adblock plus for a site!
That new American Cancer Society ad reminds me to go out and have a smoke.
Be right back.
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i want to listen to my god d**n mother ******* music
so i can't visit this site anytime my speakers are on. really good going xs. I don't care about any excuses other then i don't want to click on a new page here because i get shouted at to buy stuff. Fix it now
I run Kaspersky and see no add whats so ever with ad blocker turned on. Might try doing something like that Teyber.
Wow. ABP is awesome. It certainly speeds up browsing not having to wait on ad servers. Let me know when the ads stop talking. I'll let them display again. Not trying to hurt XS here, but I'll not have a forum yelling at me. :)
You probably have to create the filter, or subscribe (free) to one of the offered ad block services. I just went through that....I just subscribed to the Easylist...Usa.
I hate the talking adds yelling at me every 3 minutes...
not trying to beat a dead horse here
but i assume its ok to talk about how nice the girls tits are in the one add thats on my page considering the fact that they are rubbing it in my face
i wonder if they are real or fake
and i can only imagine what i would do with them.
The spam/scam ads must go.
Why is it so difficult for the people that hate the ads to install Adblock? Takes 1 precious minute out of your life and the ads are gone.
I got a popup logging on here with my laptop today... sweet XS
i wish i could use adblock on that annoying amazon kindle commercial too. it pisses me off as much as the ads do.
havent had talking adds for 2 day here :) nice
i havent had any talking ad's since i adblocked them. just the ones down the bottom which right now is a gigabyte ad.