AMD DX11 RV8xx Card Exposed

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08-19-2009, 06:17 AM
>HyperlogiK<

Geforce 4, 6 and 7 and 8 series all offered near doubled performance, as did the original Radeon, the 9 series and the 4 series.
08-19-2009, 06:19 AM
Oberon

I think power consumption may still be up in the air. Cypress is only supposed to require one PCI-E power connector, right?
08-19-2009, 06:24 AM
Chad Boga

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farinorco

I don't agree with that beeing the normal progression rate in the videocard arena. Given that manufacturers come with more or less one generation a year, it would be much higher than usual tech progression (doubling each two years). Indeed, I think that only the great surprise/success/hit chips have managed to double over their previous generation (R700, G80...). I'd say that a much more realistic and paired to other technologies and Moore's Law formula would be:

next gen = 1.5*previous gen

Given that a new generation is coming every year (your formula could be good if there were a 2 years gap between generations)

Video card generations have been coming out in recent years, 18 months or so apart, not 12 months.
08-19-2009, 06:34 AM
Manicdan

i was really happy with how well the 4870 did for its chip size, i think they may be going larger simply to have single chip solution that may still rival all competition, but hopefully keep with their small cores at a great price that worked so well for the 4000s
08-19-2009, 06:42 AM
BigDisk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farinorco

I don't agree with that beeing the normal progression rate in the videocard arena. Given that manufacturers come with more or less one generation a year, it would be much higher than usual tech progression (doubling each two years). Indeed, I think that only the great surprise/success/hit chips have managed to double over their previous generation (R700, G80...). I'd say that a much more realistic and paired to other technologies and Moore's Law formula would be:

next gen = 1.5*previous gen

Given that a new generation is coming every year (your formula could be good if there were a 2 years gap between generations).

Said that, it seems that this generation both ATI and NVIDIA are going to double the performance of their chips... as it seems that performance/watt it's not doubled (or close to that), I'm a little scared about the power consumption of the bigger chips of both ATI and NVIDIA this round.

Except that 1.5* previous gen would surpass Moore's law of doubling the performance every 24 months (it would result in 2.25x the inital performance every 24 months).

If we assume the new generations of card are coming out every year, and that they respect Moore's law of transistor density (and that transistor count equals performance), then the performance would be

nextgen = sqrt(2) * previous gen
or roughly nextgen = 1.41 * previous gen

Just sayin' ...... ;) (sorry about being anal)
08-19-2009, 07:34 AM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDisk

Except that 1.5* previous gen would surpass Moore's law of doubling the performance every 24 months (it would result in 2.25x the inital performance every 24 months).

If we assume the new generations of card are coming out every year, and that they respect Moore's law of transistor density (and that transistor count equals performance), then the performance would be

nextgen = sqrt(2) * previous gen
or roughly nextgen = 1.41 * previous gen

Just sayin' ...... ;) (sorry about being anal)

its honestly tough to compare across generations when there is a major change in how things are handled, ie DX versions. if we look at just a framerate change, it may be totally different from the changes in furmark rendering.

there is however a different way to look at it, which it overly simplified. the real changes only occur with new processes, going from 55nm to 40nm etc. if there are any delays, then everything can be held back by months, and when expecting a new one every 24 months, 2 month delay is pretty massive in that formula.

looking at AMD, the 45mn quads came out at the beginning of this year, and intel is showing off a 32nm already. the performance jump per year for AMD has been quite sucky since their attempt to switch to 45nm, and they felt the pain of using 65nm for like what, 3 years?!?

so to end it, im not a big fan of trying to say one generation will be x more powerful than the previous. as there are only a few real things that go into it, and each of them can sway the numbers very easily.
08-19-2009, 07:37 AM
Baron_Davis

To the guy who wanted the price on a 5890 x2 or w/e it will be called.

I'm gonna stay predictable and say it will be the same as a 4870 x2 so around 600.

I say their main stream card (read: 5890) will be around 300-350. The 5850 (read: 4850 equivalent) will probably be around 200-250. The rest...I don't care about.
08-19-2009, 07:54 AM
labs23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron_Davis

To the guy who wanted the price on a 5890 x2 or w/e it will be called.

I'm gonna stay predictable and say it will be the same as a 4870 x2 so around 600.

I say their main stream card (read: 5890) will be around 300-350. The 5850 (read: 4850 equivalent) will probably be around 200-250. The rest...I don't care about.

Those prices are very reasonable, I'd hope it will be then. But higher than those figures won't be a surprise.:shrug:
08-19-2009, 08:04 AM
flippin_waffles

So the USS Hornet is where AMD is going to launch Evergreen from from. Very interesting and very original.. :)
08-19-2009, 10:02 AM
TurboDiv

They might be planning on dropping down some cards with attached bombs on Nvidia headquarters... "World Card War I" ??... **runs and hides in the basement with a tin foil hat*

http://www.jessicadunton.com/blog/TinfoilHat.jpg
08-19-2009, 10:29 AM
cegras

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDisk

Except that 1.5* previous gen would surpass Moore's law of doubling the performance every 24 months (it would result in 2.25x the inital performance every 24 months).

If we assume the new generations of card are coming out every year, and that they respect Moore's law of transistor density (and that transistor count equals performance), then the performance would be

nextgen = sqrt(2) * previous gen
or roughly nextgen = 1.41 * previous gen

Just sayin' ...... ;) (sorry about being anal)

Performance != transistor density. You're drawing the wrong conclusion from that. For example, increased transistor density = more cache = linear, corresponding increase in performance? No.
08-19-2009, 02:47 PM
eric66

http://vimeo.com/6182068

r8xx in action dirt 2
08-19-2009, 03:07 PM
Chad Boga

Quote:

Originally Posted by flippin_waffles

So the USS Hornet is where AMD is going to launch Evergreen from from. Very interesting and very original.. :)

Perhaps they will unfurl a large "Mission Accomplished" banner. :ROTF:
08-19-2009, 04:18 PM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Boga

Perhaps they will unfurl a large "Mission Accomplished" banner. :ROTF:

HAHAHA:rofl:
08-19-2009, 04:53 PM
>HyperlogiK<

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDisk

and that transistor count equals performance

That's quite a big assumption.
08-19-2009, 04:54 PM
Sh1tyMcGee

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric66

http://vimeo.com/6182068

r8xx in action dirt 2

Seems like a pre rendered video to me. Not actual gameplay.
08-19-2009, 05:56 PM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee

Seems like a pre rendered video to me. Not actual gameplay.

that would be one of the worst prerenders i ever saw

but it was too many short flashes in a low quality video to really see dx11 effects
08-19-2009, 06:00 PM
Mad1723

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manicdan

that would be one of the worst prerenders i ever saw

but it was too many short flashes in a low quality video to really see dx11 effects

if you compare with the actual gameplay footage we have up to now, I'd say the video looks legit :up:
08-19-2009, 06:02 PM
trinibwoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric66

http://vimeo.com/6182068

r8xx in action dirt 2

Nice, glad to see AMD's marketing department finally grew some balls.
08-19-2009, 06:17 PM
Sly Fox

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad1723

if you compare with the actual gameplay footage we have up to now, I'd say the video looks legit :up:

Agreed, GRID and DiRT are already beautiful games on the proper hardware (which luckily only really needs a GTX 260 or 4870), no reason this sequel can't look even better. :up:
08-19-2009, 06:21 PM
Talonman

That is a good video... :cool:
08-19-2009, 06:22 PM
MirageSys

Quote:

Originally Posted by trinibwoy

Nice, glad to see AMD's marketing department finally grew some balls.

And teeth to go along with them. Good thing they aren't foolish enough to furnish a can of whoopass though.
08-19-2009, 09:36 PM
zerazax

Forget all the DX11 haters... I can't wait to see DiRT2 in DX11 !!
08-20-2009, 02:08 AM
LordEC911

Stolen from neliz- (who really wants to reg at chiphell?)

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/Ut6Fka0lrP...qdkjZ/full.jpg
http://tweakers.net/ext/f/ZzgihFdMod...0LuGS/full.jpg
http://tweakers.net/ext/f/49feNT8Y4a...tuLUb/full.jpg

4770 "reference" cooler being put to good use.
Estimated to be between a 4870/4890 performance for a "current" 4850 price.
08-20-2009, 02:49 AM
zalbard

VRam chips on both sides... Does it mean it's 2gb? Or is the PCB just too short?
08-20-2009, 02:57 AM
fellix_bg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/644/54823722.jpg

4770 redux for DX11. :rofl:
08-20-2009, 02:59 AM
Oberon

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalbard

VRam chips on both sides... Does it mean it's 2gb? Or is the PCB just too short?

Only four ICs on the back. Assuming there are only four on the other side ( a pretty good assumption in my book), that should give us the normal eight, which, at current densities, should probably equate to 1GB.
08-20-2009, 03:04 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Only four ICs on the back. Assuming there are only four on the other side ( a pretty good assumption in my book), that should give us the normal eight, which, at current densities, should probably equate to 1GB.

That's my assumption as well, and I was looking forward to more VRam per card this generation. :shakes:
08-20-2009, 05:09 AM
largon

Quote:

Originally Posted by fellix_bg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/644/54823722.jpg

4770 redux for DX11.

If you looks closely enough, you'll see those boards have little in common after all.
08-20-2009, 05:34 AM
Oberon

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalbard

That's my assumption as well, and I was looking forward to more VRam per card this generation. :shakes:

Well, isn't this supposed to be the midrange card? In that case, it probably wouldn't be powerful enough to take advantage of the extra memory anyhow.
08-20-2009, 06:11 AM
Manicdan

it would be awesome to see this launch with as much power as a current 150$ card, but cost only 100$

its a tough call for the pricing department, i would sell a 4890 with DX11 for 200$ until nvidia gives it some competition. but then again, selling them near dirt cheap would be a great way to get everyone to convert and obtain nuken futs market share.
08-20-2009, 06:20 AM
FischOderAal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Boga

Perhaps they will unfurl a large "Mission Accomplished" banner. :ROTF:

:clap: :rofl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

Stolen from neliz- (who really wants to reg at chiphell?)

[...SNIP...]

4770 "reference" cooler being put to good use.
Estimated to be between a 4870/4890 performance for a "current" 4850 price.

Thank you :) Not bad. Such a small card with the power of a HD-4870/4890 :eek: I suppose this will be HD-57xx?
08-20-2009, 06:29 AM
Jowy Atreides

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Well, isn't this supposed to be the midrange card? In that case, it probably wouldn't be powerful enough to take advantage of the extra memory anyhow.

Why not?

Mid range of the new gen is in the performance area of current high gen.

This card is quite likely better performing than a 4890. If only for the workarounds of dx11 to boost it
08-20-2009, 06:42 AM
fellix_bg

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2760/16872114.jpg
:rofl:
08-20-2009, 06:53 AM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by fellix_bg

image
:rofl:

i dont get it
08-20-2009, 07:09 AM
blindbox

Just want to share with you guys. One of my local forumers got this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhen^wei

5870:
249.00 USD = 881.217 MYR
United States Dollars Malaysia Ringgits
1 USD = 3.53902 MYR 1 MYR = 0.282564 USD

5850:
189.00 USD = 669.099 MYR
United States Dollars Malaysia Ringgits
1 USD = 3.54020 MYR 1 MYR = 0.282470 USD
:clap: :clap:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?sh...ost&p=28016585

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhen^wei

I think not need wait for 5k series already
latest news from distri:
5890x2 - USD400 - 19 October

[snapback]28041548[/snapback]

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?sh...ost&p=28041548

He's a pc part seller.
08-20-2009, 07:20 AM
labs23

If those are accurate... 5890x2 at $400, nice price, but on Oct. 19:confused:

So, we won't expect the x2, or something this Sept after all?:shrug:
08-20-2009, 07:27 AM
Oberon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides

Why not?

Mid range of the new gen is in the performance area of current high gen.

This card is quite likely better performing than a 4890. If only for the workarounds of dx11 to boost it

I don't think it will be faster than the 4870. I'm thinking more along the lines that it will match the performance of the high end of the previous generation (similar to the 3870 -> 4670 transition and then some). If that's the case, then my statement holds water since even a 4890 can't make use of much over 1GB of video memory.
08-20-2009, 07:27 AM
bill_d

the x2 have come out last in the past but i think 400 is to low a 5870x2
08-20-2009, 07:31 AM
FischOderAal

I don't care about this crossfire X2-BS. HD-5850 for 160 Euro? Count me in :D
08-20-2009, 07:37 AM
largon

Quote:

Originally Posted by labs23

So, we won't expect the x2, or something this Sept after all?

Previous X2 cards came a month or two later than single GPU variants. One can expect a single card will be out sometime before the dual...
08-20-2009, 07:43 AM
blindbox

Hence, it's safe to say September will be the month where HD5xxx series is coming out.
08-20-2009, 07:53 AM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manicdan

i dont get it

keep up ;)

Quote:

AMD will host its Evergreen’s official launch on aircraft carrier U.S.S. Hornet moored in Alameda, Calif.
08-20-2009, 07:53 AM
Boogerlad

is the card posted above the "midrange" series? or the equivalent to 4850?
08-20-2009, 07:55 AM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_d

the x2 have come out last in the past but i think 400 is to low a 5870x2

$400 is the distributor price, i.e. a bulk price.
Most of the time they have to buy in thousands of units, so expect a retail USD price of anywhere from $499-$599.
08-20-2009, 08:27 AM
FischOderAal

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

$400 is the distributor price, i.e. a bulk price.
Most of the time they have to buy in thousands of units, so expect a retail USD price of anywhere from $499-$599.

Same goes for this, then?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhen^wei

5870:
249.00 USD = 881.217 MYR
United States Dollars Malaysia Ringgits
1 USD = 3.53902 MYR 1 MYR = 0.282564 USD

5850:
189.00 USD = 669.099 MYR
United States Dollars Malaysia Ringgits
1 USD = 3.54020 MYR 1 MYR = 0.282470 USD

Hmmm. Don't know how much the distributors add to that price.
08-20-2009, 08:36 AM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by FischOderAal

Same goes for this, then?

Hmmm. Don't know how much the distributors add to that price.

That one looks closer to a retail price.

Remember everyone gets a cut or else there is no reason to move the product.
08-20-2009, 08:40 AM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogerlad

is the card posted above the "midrange" series? or the equivalent to 4850?

afaik, it's below it - like a 4830 or 4770
08-20-2009, 08:42 AM
MirageSys

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

Stolen from neliz- (who really wants to reg at chiphell?)

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/Ut6Fka0lrP...qdkjZ/full.jpg
http://tweakers.net/ext/f/ZzgihFdMod...0LuGS/full.jpg
http://tweakers.net/ext/f/49feNT8Y4a...tuLUb/full.jpg

4770 "reference" cooler being put to good use.
Estimated to be between a 4870/4890 performance for a "current" 4850 price.

As long as the released cards don't forgo using the reference cooler like they did with the 4770 id be pleased.
08-20-2009, 08:47 AM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaredpace

afaik, it's below it - like a 4830 or 4770

Actually the card is Juniper XT and like I said, should be around 4870/4890 performance at a "nice" price.
08-20-2009, 08:51 AM
Talonman

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

Actually the card is Juniper XT and like I said, should be around 4870/4890 performance at a "nice" price.

We need a best guess listing, to keep the various cards performance straight. :)
08-20-2009, 09:54 AM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

Actually the card is Juniper XT and like I said, should be around 4870/4890 performance at a "nice" price.

Yah but hes saying equivalent... which would be Cedar.

I agree it's juniper, but thats not the equivalent of the 4850 in the 4xxx series. And yes Juniper (the card pictured) performs like a 4870.
08-20-2009, 10:07 AM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaredpace

And yes Juniper (the card pictured) performs like a 4870.

how well does it OC?
08-20-2009, 10:44 AM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manicdan

how well does it OC?

heh, got me. I'm just going by Cj's vantage run of P9500 compared to a 48701g of P9800... No idea of the clockspeeds or OC headroom. Probably know for sure in 3 weeks though :p:
08-20-2009, 11:22 AM
zerazax

All he's saying is that price wise, it's equivalent to a 47xx type card, but performance wise, expect it to be a 4870-4890 performer

Looks like the leaks are coming in!
08-20-2009, 11:40 AM
largon

I'd say the way HD4770 OCs is a good way pointer for other 40nm chips too. They say TSMC 40nm is Black Diamond 2, and 130nm version of it was nice...
08-20-2009, 11:46 AM
btarunr

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

Actually the card is Juniper XT and like I said, should be around 4870/4890 performance at a "nice" price.

More like HD4850 OC or GTS 250.
08-20-2009, 11:47 AM
FischOderAal

Quote:

Originally Posted by largon

They say TSMC 40nm is Black Diamond 2, and 130nm version of it was nice...

This sentence was very confusing at first. This is what I was missing:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia.org

Black Diamond and Black Diamond II, a low-κ material developed by Applied Materials used in semiconductor manufacturing
08-20-2009, 02:53 PM
Wh!te Sh4dow

i'm seriously looking forward for these cards ! my 8800 gts 512 needs to get some rest :D
08-20-2009, 10:57 PM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindbox

Just want to share with you guys.

Sounds about right. Thats a few days before Windows 7 goes retail. According to what AMD/ATI had in mind. As for the rest of the lineup:

The Earlier the merrier..... :D
08-21-2009, 05:43 AM
largon

I wonder if AMD finally fixed their power guzzling, freq-transition-flickering GDDR5 controller. The scary thing is, RV770 had the issue from get-go, and they didn't fix it in RV740, nor in RV790. That's 3 chips in a row with an issue that alone blows the idle power consumption sky high...
08-21-2009, 07:44 AM
mibo

Quote:

Originally Posted by largon

I wonder if AMD finally fixed their power guzzling, freq-transition-flickering GDDR5 controller. The scary thing is, RV770 had the issue from get-go, and they didn't fix it in RV740, nor in RV790. That's 3 chips in a row with an issue that alone blows the idle power consumption sky high...

Hope they fixed the idle power consumption. Otherwise I'll wait for Nvidia.
08-21-2009, 07:48 AM
Nautilius

Quote:

Originally Posted by largon

I wonder if AMD finally fixed their power guzzling, freq-transition-flickering GDDR5 controller. The scary thing is, RV770 had the issue from get-go, and they didn't fix it in RV740, nor in RV790. That's 3 chips in a row with an issue that alone blows the idle power consumption sky high...

I really hope for it too. I understand the high load p.c., but the idle p.c. is madness... :shrug:
08-21-2009, 10:14 AM
~CS~

4890 idle power consumption is lower then GTX260 and lower then 4870 idle and load , they refined the design before putting it on the 40nm .
08-21-2009, 10:29 AM
largon

^GTX260 216 idles at ~40W lower than HD4890. All because GDDR5 is not downclocked, resulting in crazy idle current draw for the MEMI/O.
:stick:
08-21-2009, 10:29 AM
Xoulz

Quote:

Originally Posted by spursindonesia

While 512 bit buswidth is rather out of question, wouldn't it be so sweet if Cypress was equipped with 384 bit buswidth, if it comes as a 360 mm^2 chip, i think it wouldn't be pad limited. Just imagine, a 360 mm^2 chip with 1920 SPs, 96 TMUs, 36 RBEs on 384 bit buswidth (6 RBEs per 64 bit mem controller) using 1.5 GB of 1.2 GHz GDDR5 chips, greatness !!

:devil:

I just put that^^ in my pipe and smoked it... I'll have to tell ya, it was very tasty!

I'll take two more please!
08-21-2009, 10:36 AM
Hell Hound

1.2 GHZ CORE and 2GB MEM @ 1.2GHZ.:up:
08-21-2009, 11:28 AM
largon

^Huh?
Not gonna happen.
08-21-2009, 11:40 AM
~CS~

Quote:

Originally Posted by largon

^GTX260 216 idles at ~40W lower than HD4890. All because GDDR5 is not downclocked, resulting in crazy idle current draw for the MEMI/O.
:stick:

Xbit labs show a different story they measure at the card and its somewhat consistent with other reviews i saw .But am not sure who to believe .
08-21-2009, 02:05 PM
nsegative

I just changed my idle clocks on the hd4870x2 to 300 core and ram and turned catalyst ai to off to run in single core mode. All good.
08-21-2009, 02:07 PM
Wh!te Sh4dow

is that dynamic ? i mean, do you have to enable the "crossfire" again manually + the clocks each time you want to play or not ? if not, sounds like a good deal ! :)
08-21-2009, 04:30 PM
Sh1tyMcGee

its getting close to launch and no specs yet, i think this might be a paper launch, lets hope not, cross your fingers.
08-21-2009, 04:39 PM
bill_d

Quote:

Please note that the benchmark results will be known around two weeks after the product launch, in order to give enough time for paper magazines and partners to fill in the stocks world-wide. Just like the Radeon 4800 series, Evergreen hardware will be available world-wide at the same time [this time around, late September - around 24th].

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...t-carrier.aspx
08-21-2009, 04:59 PM
tajoh111

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~CS~

Xbit labs show a different story they measure at the card and its somewhat consistent with other reviews i saw .But am not sure who to believe .

Show me other review that show that? Xbit is the only place with such results.

Along with tech power up, anandtech, hardwarecanucks and guru3d, I think they all show the 48xx with ddr5 eating lots of power during idle.
08-22-2009, 01:24 AM
FischOderAal

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajoh111

Show me other review that show that? Xbit is the only place with such results.

Along with tech power up, anandtech, hardwarecanucks and guru3d, I think they all show the 48xx with ddr5 eating lots of power during idle.

You could easily see that when downclocking the RAM manually in idle. Yes, the GDDR5 eats a lot of energy while doing barely anything...

So, I sure as hell hope as well that AMD fixes this :yepp:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wh!te Sh4dow

is that dynamic ? i mean, do you have to enable the "crossfire" again manually + the clocks each time you want to play or not ? if not, sounds like a good deal ! :)

You could do that "kind of" automatically with Rivatuner, at elast there you can set different clocks for 2D and 3D ;) Dunno about CF though.

Here's a thread about that (in german), I'm quite sure there's something like that in english forums :)
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...d.php?t=528358
08-22-2009, 01:49 AM
Shakti

To save energy once and for all, activate Overdrive in Catalyst Control Center, then edit the created .xml file which is in the following path for Windows Vista: C:\Users\here.you.put.your.username\AppData\Local\ ATI\ACE\Profiles.

Switches perfect from 350 for mem and 350 for clock to 900 and 750 for my 4870x2.
08-22-2009, 04:06 AM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajoh111

Show me other review that show that? Xbit is the only place with such results.

Along with tech power up, anandtech, hardwarecanucks and guru3d, I think they all show the 48xx with ddr5 eating lots of power during idle.

I agree.XbitLaBS always seems to have some odd results,contradicting many other reviews.That's why i rarely click on the link to their website.
08-22-2009, 10:36 AM
LordEC911

Interesting posts by neliz and CJ.

Quote:

Originally Posted by neliz

RV870 is now officially TeraScale2

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJ

To be precise it's 2nd Generation TeraScale Engine.

Cypress info kits have been sent out so expect more leaks with various marketingterms like Enhanced UVD2 (which support hardware acceleration decode of dual 1080p HD video streams) and ATi Eyefinity.

Oh and marketingnames have indeed been decided.

Expect a slew of leaks on Monday.
08-22-2009, 12:01 PM
bill_d

so whats ATi Eyefinity ?
08-22-2009, 05:40 PM
nsegative

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wh!te Sh4dow

is that dynamic ? i mean, do you have to enable the "crossfire" again manually + the clocks each time you want to play or not ? if not, sounds like a good deal ! :)

I just made 2 profiles and bound them to hotkeys. The 300mhz and core off is alt+1. 2nd profile is 800/900 clocks both cores on and 80% fan speed.
08-22-2009, 05:54 PM
Shakti

No need for 2 profiles, its all in one, switches automatic as soon as a 3d app starts.
08-23-2009, 02:52 AM
FischOderAal

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

Expect a slew of leaks on Monday.

Ty :) Can't wait!
08-23-2009, 01:01 PM
jaredpace

Quote:

Catalyst 9.10 (8.66), the first official driver for the Radeon HD5870 (Cypress XT) and Radeon HD5850 (Cypress Pro).

http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/...ssage/32456017

Wow. I sure hope the Hd5850 pulls P16000 Vantage. Priced right, it will be the best-selling card by far.
08-23-2009, 01:12 PM
Wh!te Sh4dow

That seems trustworthy :)
08-23-2009, 10:15 PM
bill_d

says 5870 but look more like a 5850 with odd cooler
http://translate.google.com/translat...%26tbs%3Dqdr:d
08-23-2009, 10:26 PM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_d

says 5870 but look more like a 5850 with odd cooler
http://translate.google.com/translat...%26tbs%3Dqdr:d

http://www.playwares.com/xe/files/at...232627_004.jpg
:confused2

:comp10: I have no idea what that is.
08-23-2009, 10:53 PM
StalkingButcher

Do I see only one 6 pin connector? :eek:
08-23-2009, 10:58 PM
blindbox

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaredpace

http://www.playwares.com/xe/files/at...232627_004.jpg
:confused2

:comp10: I have no idea what that is.

Here's my guess. That's a 3D render all right. Anyway, that's probably with the plastic cover and some aluminiums/copper off. They went the GTX295 way and put a fan in the middle?
08-23-2009, 11:05 PM
spursindonesia

Yeah, it seems more likely as a HD 5850 variant, with its single 6 pin PEG, the power regulation design, the heatsink design. The PCB looks quite long though, atleast compared to the previous x850 cards from ATi. But the cooling solution seems quite good, exhausting the air directly to outside the case.
08-23-2009, 11:12 PM
jaredpace

looks like a non-reference 4850 with aftermarket cooler to me
http://www.theinquirer.net/img/3710/no-sinks.jpg
08-23-2009, 11:14 PM
Wh!te Sh4dow

the fact that it's a rendering is noticable. But it seems as the plastic cover has been removed, and some heatsinks, as said before. I don't think that will be the standard design.
08-23-2009, 11:23 PM
labs23

The render looks different from the pics. recently taken at AMD demo. The render's exhaust occupies a full single slot.:cool:

Hmm, thats quite a long pcb there.
08-24-2009, 12:05 AM
blindbox

Is it just me or have I seen that render ages ago though?
08-24-2009, 12:53 AM
jaredpace

yah, apparently its old, thers another pick with the cooler's shroud on it... just concept art.
08-24-2009, 11:48 PM
Bo_Fox

It better not be the card! I do not like how it's longer than the 4870.

I just hope that ATI will drop the red PCB color. Red just doesnt go with some things, while black would go with everything.
08-25-2009, 12:12 AM
Hell Hound

+1 For Black pcb :up:
08-25-2009, 12:57 AM
btarunr

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaredpace

http://www.playwares.com/xe/files/at...232627_004.jpg
:confused2

:comp10: I have no idea what that is.

Look at the fan badge, it says "FirePro". Must be a one off workstation card from this generation, not what they claim it is.
08-25-2009, 08:25 AM
Jamesrt2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shakti

To save energy once and for all, activate Overdrive in Catalyst Control Center, then edit the created .xml file which is in the following path for Windows Vista: C:\Users\here.you.put.your.username\AppData\Local\ ATI\ACE\Profiles.

Switches perfect from 350 for mem and 350 for clock to 900 and 750 for my 4870x2.

Thankyou =)
08-25-2009, 01:13 PM
Wh!te Sh4dow

just so you know guys, and for people hesitating, the 5850 picture that looks like 3d to everyone, comes from here : http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...&page=1&show=n ;)
this picture was released more than 5 months ago, but with the name FirePro on it
08-25-2009, 01:33 PM
Rommsey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wh!te Sh4dow

just so you know guys, and for people hesitating, the 5850 picture that looks like 3d to everyone, comes from here : http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...&page=1&show=n ;)
this picture was released more than 5 months ago, but with the name FirePro on it

haha wtf?:down:

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