Intel i7 975 first showing Mikeguava/FUGGER

Ryba, they cannot discuss with you something under NDA no matter how nicely you ask. It may be best for them to claim it doesnt exist, do not stand on their nuts as they may not see the part for weeks.
The part is still a ways out from release but as you can see samples do exist.

As for anyone wanting to send in a request, dont. All Intel marketing and PR people will tell you the same thing and if you are a set for seeding just wait and be humble, spare them the trouble of telling you no and upsetting any relations you have going.

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Ryba, they cannot discuss with you something under NDA no matter how nicely you ask. It may be best for them to claim it doesnt exist, do not stand on their nuts as they may not see the part for weeks.
The part is still a ways out from release but as you can see samples do exist.

As for anyone wanting to send in a request, dont. All Intel marketing and PR people will tell you the same thing and if you are a set for seeding just wait and be humble, spare them the trouble of telling you no and upsetting any relations you have going.

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Sorry bro, but when I'm working in press NDA if exist is not the same for me like for normal ppl. And if this CPU have "gold NDA", why you are showing it? You are better than others?

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Kemo, this is the 5ghz air chip :cool:

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Thank you for your answer. It is appreciated.:up:

C'mon guys don't ruin a good thread. i like seeing the future, so to speak. i think it keeps things fresh,. no? Not everyone is lucky to get an NDA agreement or seeding agreement with Intel( or any company for that matter), has this ever been otherwise? My main concern is that when I buy my next chip i would like a D0 not a C0 when they come out for retail. Who wouldn't?

Ryba, these are not ready for press. I am not on the press schedule even though I do respect the NDA release date for when I go live with complete benches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh3c3BiMIsc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a0zGTj8vgE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKE0Ky4X72w

I work closely with other groups that I will not name, it is not uncommon for me to show new parts before press knows they exist. I am months ahead of yuor schedule.

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Sorry bro, but when I'm working in press NDA if exist is not the same for me like for normal ppl. And if this CPU have "gold NDA", why you are showing it? You are better than others?

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Not better, just better connected.:ROTF:

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Sorry bro, but when I'm working in press NDA if exist is not the same for me like for normal ppl. And if this CPU have "gold NDA", why you are showing it? You are better than others?

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Oh c'mon he worked for Intel,he's probably friends with most guy's from Intel and since he promotes their chips and is the owner of the biggest computer website why not let him show some goodies from Intel?

I see very people jealous:p:

Ryba is not the only press with questions but you have to understand press is important but on a time schedule corrosponding to release date. Trust me you are not delayed or behind in request, Im just early.

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Bash was a poor choice a of words, your sour attitude degrading this this thread to no end would be more appropriate.

In no way does any of this diminish, discourage or detour my pushing forward. I appriciate all the feedback and I expect to pull more shenanigans in the future.

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Ya hear that Chris! :up:

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Ya hear that Chris! :up:

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I don't know.. can I pistol whip Fugger? :shrug:

FUGGER, will you be allowed to share other results?

I think you mentioned something about better "multithread and intercore operations" on D0, is it related to Uncore clock? (Feel free to not answer this one :D )

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Originally Posted by FUGGER

Ryba, these are not ready for press. I am not on the press schedule even though I do respect the NDA release date for when I go live with complete benches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh3c3BiMIsc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a0zGTj8vgE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKE0Ky4X72w

I work closely with other groups that I will not name, it is not uncommon for me to show new parts before press knows they exist. I am months ahead of yuor schedule.

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Oh noes! Should we be scared? Are you folks working on androids that are going to suck our brains out (dunno why inorganics machines would eat organic matter but I'm tired it's the best I could do, I'm tired) j/k

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Ya hear that Chris! :up:

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Not sure, if you're referring to me, but my name is Chris, so there. The word shenanigans has a special place in my heart.

This has been bugging me for a few days watching this thread where the orginal meaning has been lost.
Intel has a new stepping with some improvements.
A release that is just a short time from official release not something thats 2 years down the road and they wanted to show those improvements so they sent it to someone they know and trust to show what it could do.
They may have also put stipulations on what could and what couldn't be shown and working within that envelope Charles and Mike posted the results.
Seems that simple to me.
What boggles my mind is why their should be any controversy at all.
They did this openly and honestly.
In reality this is no different than when we were all using Q6600 B3's and someone showed the first G0..
Make sense or am I missing something?
The last point I want to make is that although i can somewhat understand some peoples feelings there are times when those feelings are better kept to oneself.
I, just like all of you, have read and watched posted results of new hardware and gone "OOH, isn't that sweet" followed by the thought of 'I'd love to have one of those" but then again so wouldn't I love to have a new ferrari but it 'ain't gonna happen":D
Now I did get a Nehalem system prior to release and I didn't think why don't I get these things all the time but rather I sat there and Thanked the people involved for their generousity.
i'm not naive my friends, been around the block more times than I care to admit but I think some haven't matured enough to understand life and how it works.
Sometimes your lucky and sometimes your not.
The key is all in your perspective as I tried to get across earlier.
Don't see what you didn't get,be gratefull for what you did.
Sorry for the rant but I consider you people friends and it bothers me to see people upset over what I consider to be a non issue.
Thanks for reading.

We will work together to create a public list of rules for world record submissions but not in this thread.

NBF, no other results planned yet.

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Not sure, if you're referring to me, but my name is Chris, so there. The word shenanigans has a special place in my heart.

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See Gomeler, and his sig. His name is Chris. He says it with a lisp though like... Cwiss. :yepp:

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We will work together to create a public list of rules for world record submissions but not in this thread.

NBF, no other results planned yet.

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Frankly Charles my view is that FM is the only people that are claiming WR's by virtue of their listing TBH. The only others that are claiming WR's are Intel fans, and your own fans etc. It shouldn't be an issue outside of that. :up:

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See Gomeler, and his sig. His name is Chris. He says it with a lisp though like... Cwiss. :yepp:

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I only say it with a lisp because I know how sensitive you are about your speech impediment when you pronounce my name and I don't want you to feel bad :cool:

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We will work together to create a public list of rules for world record submissions but not in this thread.

NBF, no other results planned yet.

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Should be quite simple as it has always been. Unreleased hardware is fun to look at but not permitted for any record attempts. Once availability to public is possible then scores are valid. I think the only issue with these scores was the fact that it's an unreleased processor. If you had done it with a Core i7 965 it would just have been stellar scores :up:

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See Gomeler, and his sig. His name is Chris. He says it with a lisp though like... Cwiss. :yepp:

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Oh, I see. Gom's post makes more sense now. Whining and violence what a load of schenanigans:p:

Most derailed thread ever :)

Too bad, that you are not allowed to publish any other scores. I would really like to see 06 and vantage :up:

Just dont call it a WR for derailed threads.

Ill see what I can do but no promises.

That was a WR, and it's the way it's always been. I sincerely hope nothing is changed because of all this bickering.

There will always be faster. There will always be company support and if these early runs disappear becasue of a few whiners it's gonna be really sad.

Keep pressing on. I don't care if it's a 975, 985, 995 or i1000, and I don't care if I can get one or I never get one. It does not change anything.

I also am aware that some of the scores are kept for competitions that folks travel to. Not everything is shown all the time, but I'm very grateful to the folks that post these records, and regardless of whether a CPU has been released or not I hope they continue if they so desire.

Since the thread got derailed, might as well add that FM needs to wire their ass tight and start approving drivers in a reasonable timeframe. Ever since the first 3DM run I did this has been a serious problem. I watched as people with i7's sat there for weeks waiting on them to approve the platform. I've watched for years WHQL's get released and have seen it take them weeks and in a few cases months befoee they got them approved. I've seen seen cases in the past where new WHQL's came out before they ever got the previous version approved.

I am glad to see Intel take this WR with new hardware, and hope they continue that, and hope Fugger continues to press on. It's what drives progress. I also hope the next time he does we won't see a thread get derailed.

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meh... That's the way it's always been too. There's always a thread crapper or 2. I just take it for what it is and enjoy the real action, which is watching these amazing setups and talented folk push beyond the limits. :up:

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IBM I beleive holds the record with their Blue Genie as the top supercomputer.. Also something that is unbuyable.

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It's not the record and a set-up can be bought like it...it'll run you about $30-50million though ;)

http://www.top500.org/





BTW, nice numbers FUGGER. makes me want to run out and go i7...and to me, that is the mission here.

Charles, don't be naive and try to figure out how you can un-WR a score. You know as well as the rest out here that when a score beats the current top, it will be considered a WR, whether you like it or not. Even if YOU, yourself, don't consider it as a world record, other people will.

The only way I see how you could make this score (and any future ones) an un-official world record is by blackening out parts of the score, for instance the "026" in your score.

Other than that ... it's quite sad that this thread derailed SO badly. Certain people (not giving names for a reason) made quite a fool out of themselves here ...

Intel i7 975 ES D0 stepping
Gigabyte EX58-EXTREME
Gigabyte 4870X2 Quadfire (pure stock)
Corsair 1866C8 with Pelt cooling
K|ngp|n F1 EE Pot
750W Silencer PSU


Not meant to be dumb, but how is that possible?:D
Didn't fell any instability due tests?

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Intel i7 975 ES D0 stepping
Gigabyte EX58-EXTREME
Gigabyte 4870X2 Quadfire (pure stock)
Corsair 1866C8 with Pelt cooling
K|ngp|n F1 EE Pot
750W Silencer PSU


Not meant to be dumb, but how is that possible?:D
Didn't fell any instability due tests?

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I believe the entire system does not even draw close to 650watts, so 750watts still has plenty of headroom.

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Intel i7 975 ES D0 stepping
Gigabyte EX58-EXTREME
Gigabyte 4870X2 Quadfire (pure stock)
Corsair 1866C8 with Pelt cooling
K|ngp|n F1 EE Pot
750W Silencer PSU


Not meant to be dumb, but how is that possible?:D
Didn't fell any instability due tests?

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My Kill-a-watt readings when benching with a i7 965 @ 4.3 GHz and 2 HD4870x2s Crossfired at 852/980 Peak at 840 watts during Vantage and 3DMark06.

If D0 runs cooler, it would be logically to say it uses less power too ?

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My Kill-a-watt readings when benching with a i7 965 @ 4.3 GHz and 2 HD4870x2s Crossfired at 852/980 Peak at 840 watts during Vantage and 3DMark06.

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Ya... But his cards were stock?

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If D0 runs cooler, it would be logically to say it uses less power too ?

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Exactly.

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I believe the entire system does not even draw close to 650watts, so 750watts still has plenty of headroom.

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Hmm impressive, i was struggeling to get my system stable with 2900XTX2 and QX9650 plugged onto 850w psu. Guess i will have to re-aducate myself on current power draws :D

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Intel i7 975 ES D0 stepping
Gigabyte EX58-EXTREME
Gigabyte 4870X2 Quadfire (pure stock)
Corsair 1866C8 with Pelt cooling
K|ngp|n F1 EE Pot
750W Silencer PSU


Not meant to be dumb, but how is that possible?:D
Didn't fell any instability due tests?

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A quality PSU can also occasionally draw more current than it is rated for :up: That's the difference between high and low quality, low quality will blow up before it even reaches it's rated power rating :shakes:

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Ok Fugger and Drwho? I can't blame you for anything. But, why when I'm asking Intel: When you will have 975 extreme and showing them this thread I have anwser: This CPU not exist and will not be in sellery ever!

This information I have from Polish part of Intel and they have it from much higher part of company.

And sorry, if someone from Intel telling and showing me something about 975 Extreme and second person from that company telling me that CPU will not exist, what can I think about Intel?:shrug:

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as I said in the past, i did rename this part 975 by hand, I did not want to call it 965 because it is a D stepping, and it would have been misleading. (It was a mistake, in the futur, I will call them "Intel Proto")

For the moment, the product group does not want to give time line on the release of the D stepping, I am not even sure that it will be called 975.

There is confusion between technology demo and productized CPU. It is fresh from the Fab.

wow just returned back from ski holiday and WTF thoose guys are never on holiday :p: GREAT piece of art! nice to see 47k falling :clap:

that's awesome :up:

but can it run— nevermind :rofl:

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that's awesome :up:

but can it run— nevermind :rofl:

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only at the low settings!:rofl:

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as I said in the past, i did rename this part 975 by hand, I did not want to call it 965 because it is a D stepping, and it would have been misleading. (It was a mistake, in the futur, I will call them "Intel Proto")

For the moment, the product group does not want to give time line on the release of the D stepping, I am not even sure that it will be called 975.

There is confusion between technology demo and productized CPU. It is fresh from the Fab.

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Is there a general idea of release date? Q2? Q3? I just want to sell all my 8600's and 775 stuff before this comes out :D

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Is there a general idea of release date? Q2? Q3? I just want to sell all my 8600's and 775 stuff before this comes out :D

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I can't give away more than I did already ... There is a lot of cool stuff coming in 2009 ... don't worry, we are going to have fun.

Tomorrow is an other day, and each tomorrow has its own surprise. :rofl:

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I can't give away more than I did already ... There is a lot of cool stuff coming in 2009 ... don't worry, we are going to have fun.

Tomorrow is an other day, and each tomorrow has its own surprise. :rofl:

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Hey, thanks for what you did give away:D. Looks like a fun year upcoming for benching!

When does fugger run's a 06?

my system peaked at 850w with cpu on air. with cpu at 4.8Ghz -100C the same system peaked at 800w. lower resistance? :D

I saw a picture of the 2010 Ford Mustang yesterday....:yepp:

The carbon fiber Shenanigan intake is curiously pistol shaped :shrug:

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I saw a picture of the 2010 Ford Mustang yesterday....:yepp:

The carbon fiber Shenanigan intake is curiously pistol shaped :shrug:

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:rofl: excellent!:up:

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my system peaked at 850w with cpu on air. with cpu at 4.8Ghz -100C the same system peaked at 800w. lower resistance? :D

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woah..what video card are you using? i wanna get the hx1000 but im not sure if it can run two gtx 295's

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woah..what video card are you using? i wanna get the hx1000 but im not sure if it can run two gtx 295's

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2 x GTX295 with 965 @ 4.8GHz...

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My Kill-a-watt readings when benching with a i7 965 @ 4.3 GHz and 2 HD4870x2s Crossfired at 852/980 Peak at 840 watts during Vantage and 3DMark06.

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Saw the same power draw

I'll try to talk Fugger to rerun tomorrow and if he's up to it we'll do some c1 d0 comparos

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Originally Posted by eva2000

If D0 runs cooler, it would be logically to say it uses less power too ?

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didn't check but would make sense. Only thing I remember was that stock vcore and 1.48v appeared to draw only slightly more at idle.

Kind of surprised that the stock speed wasn't set to 3.6. That doesn't matter much to us, really, but I'm thinking of the image to a larger audience. I7's @ 2.93, 3.2 and 3.6 would be a more fitting lineup for a "premium" chip series.

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Kind of surprised that the stock speed wasn't set to 3.6. That doesn't matter much to us, really, but I'm thinking of the image to a larger audience. I7's @ 2.93, 3.2 and 3.6 would be a more fitting lineup for a "premium" chip series.

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Stock speeds don't mean much to our segment anyways. I think they probably don't go any higher because of heat output. They need to make sure the chips will work at stock in various scenarios, including a dust filled computer in the middle of the desert.

@FUGGER

Why did you change the title? AMD did the same thing as you.

As their points, you can post 975 98 995 any Core i7 1366 any cpus because 1366 i7 is already launched last year.

Where are these claim's guys? Why not go to AMD's thread claim again?

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@FUGGER

Why did you change the title? AMD did the same thing as you.

As their points, you can post 975 98 995 any Core i7 1366 any cpus because 1366 i7 is already launched last year.

Where are these claim's guys? Why not go to AMD's thread claim again?

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It's like you're gunning for a ban Andre :confused: You've gotta let this go man!

Great WR guys....... :up:
Keep it up..... ;)

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woah..what video card are you using? i wanna get the hx1000 but im not sure if it can run two gtx 295's

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It will run them easily. TDP is 289w per card.

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Just dont call it a WR for derailed threads.

Ill see what I can do but no promises.

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are you going to IDF this year?

i heard Shangai was canceled but S. francisco were you invited fugger?

if you go just bring us the WR. if done it many times before well show

them how to do it once again. :up:

I see that CBGPCS in HwBOT benches with an 965 D0 ES
and I wondering about that because nobody else have such CPU?

I know the D0 comes out after CeBIT but are there no more ES than this "975" and that 965 in hwbot?

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I see that CBGPCS in HwBOT benches with an 965 D0 ES
and I wondering about that because nobody else have such CPU?

I know the D0 comes out after CeBIT but are there no more ES than this "975" and that 965 in hwbot?

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I was wondering this too. I would like to know who this CBGPCS is? Is he here or does someone know something about him.

This user have done some great scores lately, that's why I'm interested :up:

There are D0 ES CPU's already flowing in channels.. who will get them is a different story.

CBGPCS was a user of XS but he was banned.

I also seaching a while to know who he is but I don't find anything!

afaik there will not be d0 965.

and what is this ;)

http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=828427

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and what is this ;)

http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=828427

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edit: ES but there shouldn't be retail d0 965..

5.2Ghz is not that great. I bet my chip will do about 5.1Ghz 32M. (C0)

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I was wondering this too. I would like to know who this CBGPCS is?

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custombuiltgamingpcs.com

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custombuiltgamingpcs.com

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Thanks Mark!

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Actually, from a transistor point of view, it is the other way around, a "bad" leaking transistor will OC better, when you look for a good OC processor, you have to look for a processor that has high leakage, temperature and chilling the CPU is not a problem when you use LN2 or Chillers, your statement is true on air cooling or water cooling, all passive cooling.

now, the difference between stepping in term of OC is all about the designer of the transistor to tight up the timings between each Stepping. we try to improve timing between stepping because it does improve the frequency yield in our Fabs, it is a nice side effect that you guys enjoy every day.

This is all common knowledge for transistor circuitdesign engineer. :up:

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Originally Posted by Kabauterman

I see that CBGPCS in HwBOT benches with an 965 D0 ES
and I wondering about that because nobody else have such CPU?

I know the D0 comes out after CeBIT but are there no more ES than this "975" and that 965 in hwbot?

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he say have a tray of 24 chips
he told me about some results, but impossible to have any screen ...
and the resultat is strange..
05 ~5.31 /06 ~5.188 /vantage ~5250mhz ....
06 lower than vantage???and 05 only 50mhz of more??!!
i don't know if is the max,he just talk about these results on a chip

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custombuiltgamingpcs.com

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I Call shenanigans on them - they remind me of what was the company ? .... L PC?:down:

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

Actually, from a transistor point of view, it is the other way around, a "bad" leaking transistor will OC better, when you look for a good OC processor, you have to look for a processor that has high leakage, temperature and chilling the CPU is not a problem when you use LN2 or Chillers, your statement is true on air cooling or water cooling, all passive cooling.

now, the difference between stepping in term of OC is all about the designer of the transistor to tight up the timings between each Stepping. we try to improve timing between stepping because it does improve the frequency yield in our Fabs, it is a nice side effect that you guys enjoy every day.

This is all common knowledge for transistor circuitdesign engineer. :up:

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Interesting indeed .. thanks for the info :)

I see people trying to Sell Core i7 975 enginnering sample on ebay ...
This time, this is not going to end well.

Take my place, you are working on something really sexy, and somebody steel one and then go and sell it in your face on eBay.
This is going to turn into an epidode of Numb3rs ...

I am putting the means behind the lack of respect people are doing when trying to make profite on something they got like this.

it is not OK to buy it, it is not OK to sell it, both can cause you serious problems.

Be Aware.

Francois

^ well.. if Intel buys those cpus from eBay can't you know who sold them?

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I see people trying to Sell Core i7 975 enginnering sample on ebay ...
This time, this is not going to end well.

Take my place, you are working on something really sexy, and somebody steel one and then go and sell it in your face on eBay.
This is going to turn into an epidode of Numb3rs ...

I am putting the means behind the lack of respect people are doing when trying to make profite on something they got like this.

it is not OK to buy it, it is not OK to sell it, both can cause you serious problems.

Be Aware.

Francois

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Noted. I thought it was against eBay policy to sell ES chips. But then it is eBay where anything goes. Now why would anyone want to sell 975? I'd keep it money be damned!

--Chris

well, all ES samples are under NDA, and selling them is really the worst you can do, it goes under Industrial Espionage rulling, I can't obviously give details here, but I will be personally getting the proper autorization to stop this.
The seller, the person who is under NDA, and the buyer are taking risk.

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CBGPCS was a user of XS but he was banned.

I also seaching a while to know who he is but I don't find anything!

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He proposed us some 965D0 on msn ... but with very high price :rolleyes:

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well, all ES samples are under NDA, and selling them is really the worst you can do, it goes under Industrial Espionage rulling, I can't obviously give details here, but I will be personally getting the proper autorization to stop this.
The seller, the person who is under NDA, and the buyer are taking risk.

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No kidding, :doh:. My brain is getting lazy on a Sunday afternoon. Of course ES are NDA.:yepp:

Good luck!

--Chris

C'mon, I like Numb3rs ... it would be really cool if there was an XS episode :D

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

I see people trying to Sell Core i7 975 enginnering sample on ebay ...
This time, this is not going to end well.

Take my place, you are working on something really sexy, and somebody steel one and then go and sell it in your face on eBay.
This is going to turn into an epidode of Numb3rs ...

I am putting the means behind the lack of respect people are doing when trying to make profite on something they got like this.

it is not OK to buy it, it is not OK to sell it, both can cause you serious problems.

Be Aware.

Francois

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Glad I could help ;)

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C'mon, I like Numb3rs ... it would be really cool if there was an XS episode :D

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I also like Numb3rs Pieter :p:, I'm currently on last episodes of Season 3. Really nice ! :up:

I almost finished the 5th season ... excellent show.
In the case of the 2 ebay adds, well, we do not have great criminals here, they did leave many traces/finger prints, like walking around santa clara with a banner in their back saying "I sell Core i7 ES", the one on alibaba was a little more tricky, but i got it too. I have a chinese reading person next to me :)
I got all I need, Intel security will have fun tomorrow... :)

message for the dudes selling ES: Ne shi bendan .... or "ca va pas non?" lol ! (Sorry for the spelling, I speak only)

Good to hear, and funny too. I saw a couple ES on eBay a while ago, it happens from time to time. I'll keep an eye out.

Spoke to him, told me it coldbuged @ -108.
So tempting but not gonna :down: :D
Would run perfect on my cascade LOL

this is one interesting thread.. despite it going off topic somewhat :p:

apart from being released 'early' what else is so special about these 'es' chips??

either way im not in the market for a 965 d0 but a 920 d0 would be nice :D

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apart from being released 'early' what else is so special about these 'es' chips??

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They have a unique ID ... hehehehehehe :rofl: :yepp: :yepp: :yepp:

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

They have a unique ID ... hehehehehehe :rofl: :yepp: :yepp: :yepp:

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You mean that you can find back this id from a software right ? I think so...

Bexcause It's too easy to erase the serial on the IHS :D

This is just greedy....:down: Having such an important ES in your hands and placing it into an auction is totally disrespectful to the company that trusted you with it ...:(

So what is the plan here? 965's clock pretty badly for the most part (note im talking about clocks not performance). 5ghz vantage is rare. I thought D0 stepping 965 would be great if they hit 5.5 like FUGGER stated earlier.

So now there will be no D0 965? I would've bought one if it was really an improvement over C0. But no way will I get C0's since to find a decent one your talking binning a hundred cpus or more...

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Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater

I Call shenanigans on them - they remind me of what was the company ? .... L PC?:down:

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Just so we're clear, I was answering a question only. I have no interest or care one way or the other about anything else.

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Originally Posted by TheKarmakazi

So what is the plan here? 965's clock pretty badly for the most part (note im talking about clocks not performance). 5ghz vantage is rare. I thought D0 stepping 965 would be great if they hit 5.5 like FUGGER stated earlier.

So now there will be no D0 965? I would've bought one if it was really an improvement over C0. But no way will I get C0's since to find a decent one your talking binning a hundred cpus or more...

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The 940 and the 965 get phased out. The 950 will replace the 940 with a 23X Multi. And the 975 replaces the 965 with a 25X Multi. Of Course the 950 and 975XE will have D0 core stepping.

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Originally Posted by Kensek

The 940 and the 965 get phased out. The 950 will replace the 940 with a 23X Multi. And the 975 replaces the 965 with a 25X Multi. Of Course the 950 and 975XE will have D0 core stepping.

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Do you have a source? Ive heard all sorts of conflicting information regarding this.:shrug: