Surely you mean Johnnie Walker Blue?
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I will lob this one out there and duck:
Have you considered a parallel flow scheme with the two video cards. I know series is the "proper" way to go, but some have reported equivalent tempertures and it would make your exit tube routing of your top video card go away. Like this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=78
If not, then you should invert your res and put a 90° on the GPU block to horizontal over.
Thanks to Shazza for the idea and JA for the link and implementation pic. I ordered an additional Res top which will make things much better. I also rotated the Di and just for grins I checked the VC PCIE sleeving to get an idea of what lies ahead for cable management. Needless to say, the sleeving was just one battle. I decided not to go with the 45 BP fitting on the EK block. I just didn't like the look. LMK what you think.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01553.jpg
Kind of scary....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01554.jpg
I wish I had this much memory!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01555.jpg
I am starting to like the blue more and more...so does my wife.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01557.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01556.jpg
I should finish sleeving the 24 pin tomorrow but I am running out of sleeving!
Nils, Charles I need more!
It's lovely looking, but I just can't help but think that tubing is going to pop loose off of those barbs :(
I like it too, but is the GPU->CPU tube a hair too long?
Lookin good Rocky, I like the blue more and more when I see it. From a looks standpoint the 45 might be the ticket (did I just type that? :shrug:).
The only problem that I have with individually sleeved wire bundles is that they lose some of their beauty when they separate. But when they maintain their uniformity it looks very sharp. The question is how to achieve this, tie wraps, separate sleeving? A black banding system would look good, hold the wires in place without having an eyesore.
I think that this is going to require moar scotch to contemplate the possibilities. :up:
Oh, and because of you I have my UFO torn apart behind me trying to tame the wiring nightmare that is my computer. :eek: It is a good thing that I already drink or this would definitely drive me to it. :ROTF:
Maybe you can twist the tubing on the GPU-Res path to not have it "arch up" so much. A gentle torsional twist before pushing onto the 2nd barb might make it lower profile.
Are going to add a fill port and hose over to the naked barb in your picture?
I think the blue looks good, and I like the fact that you have such a small amount of tubing for a CPU and 2xGPU loop.
I'm kinda still thinking the use of a 45 or two would make the CPU > GPU loop look a little less strained (not that it is, just the way it looks). It sure isn't going anywhere, and there are no kinks, so flow should be good.
It may be. There is about a 1/4" of slack as the VC's are not screwed into the backplate. And I thought I was anal:eek: Thanks!
I will take a pic for you of the 45 and see what you think. It may be the BP logo but it doesn't look clean to me. Thanks for the compliment!
I know exactly what to do about the wires...that is a later update. I can't give it all away just yet. I just wanted to make sure my idea would work. I tested it today on the other sleeve and it is the cat's pajamas as Skinniee would say. I am drinking scotch, please don't worry!:rofl: I drink like Winston Churchill. I would quote him about his thoughts but I don't want to get in trouble!
The tubing leading to the Res is on a 3/8" barb so that I can make adjustments. Once the tubing goes on the 1/2" barbs it is not coming off. Believe me, there is no such thing as a gentle twist! I have lost a great deal of skin getting the tubing on the 1/2" barbs. The tubing rests in boiling water for about 30-45 seconds and then you cuss your brains out and hope!
There will not be a fill port. Another trick in the bag to come later.
Shazza,
Thanks! I am trying to use as little tubing as possible. I guess I like the strained look after my days of using many elbows in my Aqua days. I will post a pic of the EK with the 45 but I just don't like it.
Thanks to BA for the tubing choice. You would be hard pressed to kink this tubing. Now, back to the scotch and smokes, yes I know I am politically and socially incorrect! Oh well:D
Many thanks for all of the input, I appreciate it.:)
I think if you just shortened up the tubing between the cpu and gpu it would make a nice smooth curve and look fantastic. If you group up your pci-e power cables and keep them tight it'll look great. Maybe if you take a 6 pin and 8 pin from the midplate up to the bottom card and then run the other 6 and 8 pin behind the motherboard tray to the top card that could make it looks really clean. I know Charles did the Fried Chicken build like this and it really worked out great.
I can second the note about the secure tubing. After rebuilding my loop I had to cut the tubing off, I couldn't get it to come off otherwise.
I can see where having a 45 in there might detract from the otherwise very clean connections, but I dunno. We'll wait to see what the pic shows. And, it's your preference that counts!
BTW ... pretty hard to be politically and socially incorrect around here.
Also I agree sometimes the BP logo on an otherwise shiny sexy fitting can be distracting. I would pay $0.50 more to get a fitting without it.
Good setup and WC!
I am ancious about mounting mine! :P
OK guys and gals I have to run to the store and pick up some anchovies for the Caesar salad! Here are the 45 BP pics as promised. You will have to use your imagination a bit. You know me.......scotch! The lighting is terrible but you get the idea.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01563.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01561.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01560.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01559.jpg
Do not ask me to put the tubing on the fitting!
LMK what you think! Now I am off to get the anchovies:up:
I haven't had my scotch yet, but those look like 90s to me ...
Dood, I don't know how you eat those things. I had them once (accidentally) on my pizza in Hong Kong and I just couldn't hardly stand it. And I've eaten some FOUL things in my life. Whoa, sorry to go off like that. :rofl:
On a side note, I really like the BP 90 (those are 90's, Johnny Walker) there, but again don't like the logo. Are those 90's not very restrictive?
That is a 90 degree fitting, maybe a 45 would look less sharp of a transition. And I agree about the logo, ruins a well made fittings look.
Like this...
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25053
or this...
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25052
I'll need to see the tubing on the fitting. :p:
hehe, kidding aside - we need to see wide shots of the whole upper section. I tend to mock up the whole loop before committing - this way you get a sense of the overall visual balance. :)
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unless I forgot how angles work, is that not a 90 ?
Correct...too much scotch but you get the idea.
I was originally trained as a French chef! I love escargots as well....so does Charles cat, so I am told.
I know I Fu*d up. I was more concerned about dinner. Beef Wellington with scratch made dough, scratch made pate' and Goldie's famous mashed organic potatoes!
Charles, check your e-mail!
I am thoroughly upset! No one asked if the anchovies arrived ok?:shocked:
I think you've just crossed the political/social correctness line with those anchovies :lol:Quote:
No one asked if the anchovies arrived ok?
With a meal like that waiting, hell with the fittings. :rofl:
Oh and by the way, did the anchovies make it o-k? :D
hey on your gpu#2 shouldnt you move the output of the card that goes to the res over to the other side of the block as to let the flow of the water take a full path through the middle of the block?
the way oyu have it now the output of card #1 passes right through card#2 right to the line that goes to the res.
doesn't seem right :)
besides that looks great
This is one amazing build! (I now want to sleeve some cables, I don't know why:p:)
I can begin sleeving again! This showed up today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01571.jpg
Notice the new addition?
Good eye John! The blue is a secret!:rofl:
You will know by Friday, I think.
You have my sympathies ... more sleeving!!! Hope you still have your gloves.
The blue will be a nice accent, if you survive the process. It sure is hard work!
Rocky, I can't believe Charles sent you his little lucky frog. How did you guys not see this??
:rofl:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...C01571copy.jpg
Nice sleeving kit Rocky, time to go to town.
One thing they fail to mention in the description of the sleeving is that one more item is needed to complete a large sleeving project, scotch. ;)
John, Nothing else comes close!
Shazza, I broke out my oldest pair of riding gloves and my problems have been solved. I will survive, as I always Press On and the blue will be used sparingly.
BA, you are correct! Between tubing and sleeving I will lose my fingerprints for sure:eek:
A little progress this evening.
From this............
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01508.jpg
To this.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01576.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01575.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01574.jpg
That's what I call putting lipstick on a pig! Unfortunately my uniformity with the HS needs help and more practice.
BTW, our female GSD was reading some of your posts and she laughed!:ROTF:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01578.jpg
And just for John and Shazza, yes, I am in the process of rewarding myself!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01581.jpg
LMK what you think about the blue sleeving. I have only done one on the top right corner for the 24 and the 8 pin power supply to the MB. I am thinking of doing the same with the PCIE's for the VC's....what do you think?
I also received the last of the fittings I needed (45's) and the additional Res top for the bottom. I really want to get this rig finished by Sunday. I need to sleeve two more cables and that is about it. I am also redoing the midplate again! It could have something to do with a combination of red and blue this time.:eek:
I truly appreciate all of your suggestions, advice and critiques! Keep them coming. TIA
PS..it is OK to try this at home!
Hey, man, why are using male connectors at both ends?
Alan,
It is a Zeus Modular PSU and that is the way they are engineered.
http://www.silverstonetek.com/produc...=zm1200m&area=
Rocky,
Love the picture of your pup. :up:
What about the blue being the middle wire instead? I too struggle getting the heatsink lengths just right, sleeving is truly an art that I have no way mastered. Some people make it look so easy, now those are artist.
We still need to come up with a way to coral all the wires once sleeved to give them that uniform center to center look. MOAR scotch is needed to contemplate this. :)
John,
Thanks! That is Dixie and she is the apple of my eye.
I tried the middle plug first but it did not look right once I connected the two to the MB. Unfortunately all these wires are crossed so badly I decided upon the corner. I may just go back to black. I will take some pics tomorrow with them hooked up to the MB and go from there.
In the case of corralling the wires, keep your pants on! I have it covered and all will be revealed this weekend. I am in the process of working with the patent attorneys!:D
Be nice!
Looking good. I like the blue accent ... on the end looks good, and I think will be a nice touch with the 8-pin and PCI cables sleeved the same way.
Don't be too hard on yourself re the heatshrink ... wait to check it out once it's plugged in.
Dixie is enjoying herself, saying "sure glad he's doing that, and not me!"
I must have missed it but what sleeving kit is that? Looks like they actually include the right size heatshrink unlike most of the generic kits out there.
wait seeker how do you have your gpu's setup?
it looks like your doing a straight passthough on the top card no?
Bleh looks like you caught it.
Seeker if you want that setup, you can always add another dplug on the other side and run a F paralell.
Im dying for a test subject to give it a shot. :rofl:
Rocky, what did you decide about the blue? Leave it where it is?
Hi theseeker, let me say that I like the people who choose a murderbox
For your sleeving with blue accent, since I'm making a mod with sleeving too, I've been thinking of color accent a lot of time, and after looking a lot of charles build, my conclusion about that, it use a simple graphic rule (same used in photography, graphic design, cinema, etc) the rule of 1/3 2/3 proportion
Add more blue, just 1 line is not enough, try 2 black, than 2 or 3 blue, than all black
A few more pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01584.jpg
I added the 45
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...DSC01585-1.jpg
versus the straight fitting...I like the 45 better but this is starting to look like a Harley and if I change the top I may have to change the bottom....?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01556.jpg
What do you think about the one blue wire?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...DSC01586-1.jpg
These wires will be hidden...just shown for aesthetic purposes only
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...DSC01587-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...DSC01588-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...DSC01590-1.jpg
I will probably change the regular plugs to the BP plugs..thoughts?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...DSC01591-1.jpg
I am leaning towards no blue sleeving. The blue sleeving looks a little too light compared to the tubing IMO. Once again, your thoughts.
The 8 pin MB connector will be passed under the MB and the 24 pin I have not decided upon.
LMK your thoughts. You guys and gals always have good suggestions and I am on old trying to learn a new trick!:D
get blue sleeving thats big enough to cover the tubes? :D
Personally I would not do the blue, it is tough to get symmetry when the wires are crossed and the blue is all by its lonesome. Now if you did an Aquaero sensor wire or USB wire in blue that might fit in nice. I do like the 45 as it makes the run smoother out of the block.
Everything is looking good, can't wait to see the next step. :up:
In agreement with SiGfever. I definitely like the 45 better.
BP 45 FTW! ;)
It looks like it's coming together well. The blue sleeving does add a special touch, but probably hard to implement right.
I'm not crazy about the blue sleeving, to be honest. Although I was scared to say anything because I didn't want to be the only naysayer, lol. I was starting to question my own artistic eye!
I am in love with that 45. It is just so absolutely smooth, and it fits so well. Don't worry about changing the bottom. I think everything flows the way it's supposed to there. But then again, I haven't seen how your inlet is going to run, so that may play a major factor in that CPU outlet, and a 45 may be better.
Keep up the awesome work brother!
Thanks John! Good point, I cold sleeve the temp sensor from the Res possibly?
One for the gals! Thanks Shazza! I like it better too but do you think I should do a 45 off the 2nd VC to the CPU block?
Thanks BA! Just like John, another nice way of saying it looks like :banana::banana::banana::banana: and don't bother.:clap: I agree!
Ask Charles about sleeving tubing!:yepp:
Many thanks for the input! The 45 stays and sleeving leaves the building with Elvis!
I would not use a 45 off the cpu block but rather cut about 1-2 cm's off the existing bit there, just shorten it up a bit. I think the tubing should be smooth and it looks like it's bulging just a bit. Easy to fix though, as long as you don't like your fingerprints. ;)
I would try the 45 on the CPU block and see what looks best. Doesn't your Aquaero require a USB feed like mine?
seeker, you may need to flip your cpu 90 degree's.
the way you have it now it seems like your intersecting the long side, when you should run paralell to it.
Noticed on blocks it works better when your run paralell vs perpendicular.
I have no fingerprints BA, between sleeving and tubing! My housekeeper was watching and wondering what I was doing boiling H20 and sticking tubing in a coffee cup today. She flipped out over the Rad-Dance too!
Yes, it is a bit too long but I have learned to wait and make sure for the next development.
Yes it does John. That will be sleeved as well.
NaeKuh, I am under direct orders from BA on this one as he is the reigning HD Di god!
Thanks for the suggestions and comments........now its time for a scotch!:clap:
That means you too John & Shazza:up:
Let me know when you're having a vodka or wine party, as I would like to be invited.
I haven't quite developed a taste for scotch just yet, so I suppose I'm not too much of a gentleman. Oh well, perhaps one day when I have some hair on my chest I can hang with the big boys! :up:
A New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc for me this evening ...
Once again, I have to vote with SiGfever ... I would definitely at least give the 45 on the bottom GPU a try.
(and yes, I can form my own opinions, but SiG is just so often right!)
Hiiyah,
We only have open bar parties! We want our guests to drink whatever they want!
The chest hair thing is overrated according to a couple of gals I met in my past.......:cool:
Shazza, And all this time I took you for a scotch drinker? Just kidding. However, a 61 LaTour is the best IMO.
I will check out the 45 on the bottom VC tomorrow and post some pic's if I have any fingers left!
No charge, Mr. SiGfever!
And, about that scotch. I am partial to single malts, but I generally save that treat for Friday evening after a fun week at work :p:
For those that asked........the 45 sans the tubing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01593.jpg
I am not sure.......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01594.jpg
Notice the difference between the shining and the real silver?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01595.jpg
Last one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01596.jpg
I fully intend to start leak testing by Sunday AM so if you have any more suggestions, speak up! BTW, the blue sleeving will not be used. I am replacing all of the regular plugs with the BP plugs.
One question; I read somewhere that BP fittings only need to be tightened by hand, is this correct? Seems strange to me.:shrug:
Rocky,
I like the BP fittings where I can use a wrench, but am a little uncomfortable with only hand tight using the knurls.
I am going to buy some of the soft jawed pliers just to make sure. Here:
http://www.garrettwade.com/product.a...cd2=1233964499
Rocky,
I think that they would both have to be 45'd to work out. It is tough to tell without the tubing in place, maybe a piece of larger tubing for the mock-up. I understand that you do not want to attach the blue tubing as you would have to cut it off. I do not like to constantly reapply that kind of pressure to my blocks pulling tubing on and off. I too would do hand tight and then 1/4-1/2 turn with the protected pliers.
The original way also looks nice if you decide to stay with it. :up:
Oh, by the way, got my scotch in hand, a little scotch on the rocks. :D
the wife beg me for margaritas today !!!!!
I use normal needle nosed pliers inside two fingers of a latex glove. Works great!
Looks like I need to pickup a new tool. ;)
Am I the only one here that appreciates a good beer?
cheers
Dang ... I gotta agree with SiGfever again. Having a hard time visualizing how the tubing is going to look with just one 45. BTW, I think the 45 looks good.
I do pretty much what others are saying on the BP fittings ... hand tighten (which isn't a lot, given my old, aging, weak hands). Then I use some needle nose pliers. At first, I wasn't using anything to "protect" the fittings. My husband informed me I was screwing up, so since then, I've put some tape on my pliers. It is SOOOOO helpful to have a backseat driver :p:
As I get more confidence with the BP fittings, I worry less about tightening them all the way. Makes it much easier to redo my loop, which I seem to do regularly.
nice work log :)
btw, try this for your pump
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...z/mcp65501.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...z/mcp65502.jpg
Scotch is better unless you have the flu or a cold in which case I recommend Reposado Tequila!
John,
If you knew how difficult it is regarding the tubing, you wouldn't ask.
I am happy that you are armed with the scotch! Which brand tonight?
Alan,
That's what I have done too, but the soft jawed pliers are irresistible!
BA, You are the only one that does not appreciate a good scotch!:rofl:
Shazza,
I know it is hard visualizing the tubing. However, I only have a couple of fingers left!
From a first person view, the straight looks better to me. However, I haven't had much scotch! Maybe John will chime in again?:rofl:
Well how about install a 45 on the CPU block and just hold a piece of tubing up in place and take a quick pic?
And it was my old standby, JW Black Label. Next maybe Gold Label. :)
You guys are making me want to go buy a good bottle of scotch and try to fit in!
I decided against the 45 off the 2nd VC. In the case of the scotch, JWB is a great scotch, the gold is not worth the price IMO. The Blue is outstanding but just for sipping and not drinking. I also like a few singlemalts too. I did the Spey Scotch tour a few years back and I loved it, not to mention fresh fish and chips! For the money Aberlour is the best and it is outstanding. My personal favorite is Longmorn but it is hard to find.
Sorry I forgot this is Xtreme Systems not Xtreme Scotch!
See above!
A couple of quick shots, sorry for the bad pics I was in a hurry...scotch time!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01597.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01598.jpg
With bling.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01599.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01600.jpg
I most likely won't use the bling but it is cool. I will sleeve the pump wires.
Now the fun part. I knew early on that I would have a cable problem with the 24 pin due to the size of the Feser and the Zeus PSU. The cut out in the M|M midplate is completely blocked by the PSU so I decided to flip Rad and the PSU. However, I have always been a pull proponent and not push. I have two options; 1. Go with push on the fans and route the 24 through the midplate or 2. Stay with the pull and route the 24 behind the Res and through the front and down.
Any opinions or ideas? TIA