Eddy, those channels look tiny! Are you using EDM for this?
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Eddy, those channels look tiny! Are you using EDM for this?
Its sawed with small tiny circular saws.
Wery precise and time spending machining.
@Syl:
Sure it looks similar. But don't Apogee, D-tek, Sapphire, Flow, XCPC also? Perhaps even more...
EDM with a wire can't be used in a such geometry and you won't be pleased to know the price and time consumed to do that with a 3D graphite matrix using EDM.
A typical circular saw milling cutter (and more probably mounted on a train with several of them to make it quicker) is far enough to make such channels (not very deep). Nothing difficult.
EDIT : burned
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Originally Posted by Jupiler
Drill them out, use a washer, that is what i did for the same backplate...
not hard at all
you've eaten a lot of popcorn throughout this thread...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
Hello Eddy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddy_EK
Not knocking your block at all and I completely agree with you about most blocks on the market being based on previous designs. Performance increases in todays blocks, it seems, is achieved mostly through advances in manufacturing and/or through combining elements from existing designs rather than true design breakthroughs. Even the Heatkiller block I linked to is basically a Whitewater with tweaks. There's certainly nothing wrong with having a new block that out performs the previous generation at the same or better price. Perhaps water-block design has reach a plateau, but as a water-cooling enthusiast I am still hoping that a truly innovative design is just over the horizon.
BTW, I'm a great admirer of the workmanship achieved on all your blocks and best of luck with the Supreme :up:
Eddy, that midplate confuses me. I personally don't see how it would aid in the performance of the block. Mostly I just see it adding heavily to restriction. Could you explain how it works?
if you think about it, in a way its like the nozzle kit that the fuzion gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
50EUR :shocked: I'm getting one for sure!
Yea, it was Johnnie Walker Black label but popcorn is good too. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by 7499richard
I would like to know this as well. Any comments Eddy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jupiler
You beat me too it! I was looking for that pic. I remember seeing that one (or one very similar) and thought Eddy's mid plate looked a lot like the one Watercool uses.Quote:
Originally Posted by syl
I've been very impressed with Watercool's blocks. If Eddy's block performs anything like it he will have a winner on his hands. :up:
Hi!
Yes I have noticed some backplates have too small holes.
As 7499richard have written there is simple solution.
Drill them to a bigger hole 4mm diameter, or use existing hardware that you currently have.
The M4 screws are 60mm long.
@Mmmm~
Regarding the mid plate.
We are using different jet plate for the reselling version. Much less restrictive, but only a slightly worst performance.
We eill also offer a different jet plates for extreme performance and one for high-flow.
Hm, North America.
The blocks comes out from production this week, so we'll start shipping as much as we can evenly to everyone.
Eddy :
You're saying there will be different jet plates for the block.
Are they included in the package or do we have to buy them separately?
I presume that the block will be in retail stores by sometime next week (8-10 days)?
I'm hoping Eddy will include the restrictive version as well as the less restrictive and the high-flow version... (hint) ;)
HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT EDDY...Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett
How long until we can expect to see these blocks down here in Australia? I know www.flabbergast.com.au has quite a few EK chipset, mofset and GPU blocks, but so far no EK CPU blocks. Any word on if they'll be getting in the new EK CPU block?
Eller
I use server/workstation boards with dual sockels, I normally run dual loops with each CPU, Will the extreme with your high-flow plate performe on par with Apogee or Fuzion regarding flow?? Will 2 on series give me good performance in both CPUs???Quote:
Eddy_EK
@Mmmm~
Regarding the mid plate.
We are using different jet plate for the reselling version. Much less restrictive, but only a slightly worst performance.
We eill also offer a different jet plates for extreme performance and one for high-flow.
Hi!
We had problems trying to find good company for polishing and chroming.
We got one now. Because of that we will start sending the blocks to resellers and distributors on Thursday.
Please be patient while requesting the blocks from your reseller.
We'll do our best to get them ASAP.
Thx for the update, Eddy.
Regarding the jet plates :
will both versions be included with the block?
On the backplate issue... am I the only person who drills thru the mobo tray and passes the mounting hardware thru both the mobo and the tray?? Completely eliminates mobo warping. If downforce causes warping, then I use spacers between mobo and tray.
I just never thought of it..............thanks for speaking up Marci.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marci
How standardized are the mounting holes from every manufacturer? If each manufacturer places them slightly off from each other, does that mean I will have to drill new holes each time especially since we like to upgrade and play with new hardware quite often.Quote:
Originally Posted by phelan1777
Annoyingly yes, but s'no particularly big deal until yer mobo tray ends up looking like swiss cheese. All depends how often you change guts vs how often you change case. Personally, I always tend to change everything at the same time.
Good idea, except for the those of use who keep cases for a long time. Too many holes in the tray for my tastes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marci
unless you cut a standard hole, then using custom plates, may have to make a plate for each block, but, the botl holes for the pieces and the board tray would be standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marci
Something like what newer water blocks have with all the holes , how ever you can swap out a plate on the mobo tray for each different block?
Or did I just way over complicate that?
thats a good idea Marci, hopefully some of us will find that applicable and effecient and start to do it that way...
i never realy thought about that, would do away with almost all warping im seeing though, thanks for the advise marci
Eh, i was thinking (this may be asked befor), the nozzle-thingy what is it made of? I mean hopfully not ALU, i mean ALU nozzle and CU base?
Stainless steelQuote:
Originally Posted by nullface
Sexyness it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Xilikon
Looking forward to seeing some tests, I'm currently holding off on my next w/c upgrade until I see some independent tests.
Eddy, you said earlier in this post that the block will have a majorbow to it?
Does that mean it will come with a bow, or it will be a change such as an oring as swiftech did.
I ask cause i want to remove my IHS off my cpu and a bowed block is not very good for IHS lesscpus...
Havn't tried that, but wouldn't you still be putting the mobo in bending moment between the standoffs?:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marci
I would think that would reduce the effect, but not be quite as effective as a good solid backplate that effectively provides the bending moment resistance and support directly behind the socket.
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Originally Posted by KaptCrunch
No, he is refering to the holes in the backplate.
Block will be assembled with bow.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7499richard
No need to disassemble it like fuzion. :clap:
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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK
So there is no option of purchasing the block without the bow?
Just curious, why would you want it unbowed? Bowing improves performance on pretty much all dual/quad CPUs AFAIK, if you've still got a single core why would you be spending this much on a block?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmer411
That's just my take, seems kind of pointless to sell it un-bowed.
i know bowed helps with dual but i'm yet to see result's of a bowed block on a quad anyone got any?
I ordered the EK Supreme yesterday. Eddy said it will ship on thursday and I will probably have it on monday or tuesday with jet-pak. Was going to buy the DDC top as well, but the shipping cost was to high this time (must wait for salary day on 25th...) Anyway, I will post some pictures when I get it.
Great, post some results too ;)
is it on sale already?
any idea when petras gets this?
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Originally Posted by Fujimitsu
Because in the event that I am able to remove the IHS from my future processors I feel alot more comfortable having a flat block vs a bowed block on a naked core.
I work in a machine shop, so milling a step like niksub did in a waterblock isnt terribly difficult for me.
Losing 1-2C temps vs bowed wont kill me, if it really is that much of a deal I can adjust my fan speed to compensate and turn up my speakers or wear my headphones when I game.
My view on bowed vs unbowed is the same as most peoples is for 3/8 vs 1/2 tubing...;)
Sorry if I came across as an ass, 4am and Im tired from work.
Well if that is the problem then I do not think this block is something for you.
Just get a Fuzion and step it. ;)
Or buy a copper top for your apogee. (isn't the base of a apogee the same as a GTX?)
You mean the Apogee GTX?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slitch
block will come with only one plate, but Eddy assured me that there will be several different versions available separately, very cheapQuote:
Originally Posted by Jupiler
Thx.
I would have preferred paying a little extra for the block, but having the plates included, rather than ordering it right now and the plates a few days (or weeks) later.
How many versions of the plates will there be?
That's a good idea Jupiler, I would like for Eddy to make it optional to include extra plates or not, just like it's optional to buy it with or without barbs.
That way if someone buys the block and chooses the option of multiple plates he could test them one by one and decide which works better for him, I hope Eddy considers this option, that would be awesome :)
I tested around 10 different versions, aprox. 4 should be quite enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jupiler
Ive got the classic apogee :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Slitch
you aint the only one :up: :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmer411
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Originally Posted by Jimmer411
I've got 3 I still use.Quote:
Originally Posted by RubberDuck
10 different versions?? Good lord.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by zbogorgon
You're not gonna tell me that there will be 10 different plate versions available?
Or just the 4 best plates? (according to your tests).
Price for the separate plates?
Hey,Quote:
Originally Posted by Jupiler
In fact there were more than 10 versions of jet plates.
I think we will go for a 2 different Jet plate kit.
Extreme performance (high restriction), and high flow version.
Price would be about 2,5 EUR.
Thx Eddy.
I'll see it when they show up in your store.
Any word on when the new HD3870/50, 8800GT and the cpu blocks will be out in retail channels? Been anxiously waiting for the cpu block to arrive to stores so I can order it :]
Some additional picture:
So sexy :) I prefer the acetal one myself but for someone who use acrylic ek blocks, it is a perfect match.
Nice sexy blocks.
I like the acrylic one. (gotta save some money fore a nice setup :D )
wow that acetal one is so sexy!!! actually there both sexy!!!
Still waiting on 3rd party review though..
Acrylic top means I will now probably buy it. Make that will buy it.
Hey, will it come in silver like the rest?
hehe - you took the words out of my mouth!Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Kayin
OT, but did you get my PM on Bit? Should solve all our problems...
Yup, you got it. Shouldn't mess with the microchannels either.
Eddy_EK amazing block
is acryl version will be avalible as acetal or not ?
Looking very nice. Any word as to when they'll be available from Australian retailers?
It'd be great to see some 3rd party reviews comparing it to a bowed and nozzled FuZion.
Eller
Nice pictures, lets hope pretty is as pretty does.
wow that block is wicked sick....results please!!!
EK - when is this reaching petras?
:eek2: Looks nice.
Between that and a Dtek Fuzion, what would be better?
Very very nice:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddy_EK
so when and where is this going on sale ?
Hell ya :yepp: . That is one sexy block :up:. Can't wait for it to come outQuote:
Originally Posted by Disaster_Master
Like the Acrylic :up:
i had a question to raise .. it's bout the ek blocks .. how come the delrin blocks costs more than normal acrylic blocks? is it asthetics? but transparent acrylic is more good looking .. hm curious ...
anyone can give his views?
because of cost of material, the acetal is more expensive, or so that is my understanding.
yeah .. but why acetal is more expensive than normal acrylic they're both plastics rite?
Nice Eddy! Looks very nice!
Acetal/Delrin particularly the black variety is much more expensive than acrylic or even lexan.
On the other hand though, I find delrin/acetal much easier to work with and machine. Lexan/polycarbonate is very gummy in comparison, difficult to machine, and requires coolant and very low feed rates.
Acrylic is fairly inexepensive and also machines better than lexan.
Hi!
Sorry guys, there are so many questions here.
I dont think I will be able to answer all.
Plexi version should be out in 10 days about.
All resellers that wll want it should get it.
We will be starting sending the blocks on Monday to distributors and resellers.
To US and Australia it would take more days.
So about a week or so until say Petra's gets some?
Any benchmarks of the retail version VS a nozzled and/or bowed FuZion?
Eller
now all we need is to see some reviews to confirm it's performance ;)
I see it has a lot of mounting variations but I have a question:
Does it have s771 mounting holes? :D
Are you just as anxious as I am?Quote:
Originally Posted by marauder16
Can't wait for some independent results :up:
definitely, just need a good reason to click the checkout button at eddy's and that would be a few good reviews :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett
All we need now is a d-tek nozzled vs ek block....
:)
Same here:)Quote:
Originally Posted by marauder16
Even at Eddy's shop it says out of stock though...
any news ? reviews
petra when ya gona get it !!!
I ordered the EK Supreme last week and according to the tracking info it is already here in Sweden. Maybe I can get it tomorrow at the post office. Unfortunately I can't mount the block for a week or so because of my work load. I can post some pictures when I get it, however.
Which one did you get ?? The Plexi version Or the Acetal one :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by 0xdeadbeef
bump. this gets left out on everything! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by XS Janus
I couldn't choose between acetal and plexi so I guess it's default acetal. I read here it would take a few weeks before the plaxi version is available.Quote:
Originally Posted by RubberDuck
Eddy_EK once again on the aquatuning.de no cpu wb (unknown time they will be)
any coment?
Eddy told me last saturday that the blocks would ship out to retailers yesterday, so it will take a couple of days before they receive them and change their status.
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
771,771,771,771 :D
Jupiler a lot was writen but no wb in stock nowhere even in germany
Wow Buddy ...relax They Are Coming Soon
Hi All!
We sent first blocks out yesterday to our resellers and distributors.
Still waiting on PTS order.
PPC and Jab-Tech have allready ordered and the blocks are on the way to them (sent today).
Intel xeon socket supported.
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Originally Posted by cka3o4nuk
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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK
@cka3o4nuk :
Voilą. Now you have the reply from Eddy himself (same thing as what I posted, not?). ;)