Just draw over the resistors and a #2 pencil works just fine :yepp:
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Anyone have the same system as me:
Q6600 G0 with Tuniq Tower 120
eVGA 680i A1
2GB Crucial Ballistix PC8500
PC Power and Cooling Quad 750 SLI
Thermaltake Armor
If so, how are your overclocks?
I think most people have a EVGA 680i and a g0 Q6600 in this thread. =)
My clocks and temps are awesome... but i'll post better results after I do this vdroop mod (tonite)... >=) but prior to mod, I could do 3.8ghz, but at 1.500, which does a crazy vdroop to 1.41v and crashes. I can always do 1.6, i have watercooling, but I wanna do this mod and go from there..
ive got 3.5ghz with 1.47 volts out of my B3 and im quit happy for the time being, intill my next upgrade in the fall, when 45nm quads come out.
well I couldn't be happier with 3.6 Ghz with 1.38v idle, 1.40v load. and im not done testing yet, I might be able to get it even lower.
i nominate this mod of the year.
Are there any negative side effects from doing this pencil mod ?
omg... I just did the mod. It is FRIGGING AWESOME..
Anyway to give mad props to the author? good god it's awesome.
Here are some screen caps, not really pushing the board. Just wanted to see the mod in action...
Before the mod, idle cpu (note the BIOS set vcore is 1.3625v, actual is 1.33v)
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=idlebefore.jpg
Before the mod, load cpu (note the BIOS set vcore is 1.3625v, actual is 1.29v)
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loadbefore.jpg
After the mod, idle cpu (note the BIOS set vcore is 1.3625v, actual is 1.34v)
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=idleafter.jpg
After the mod, load cpu (note the BIOS set vcore is 1.3625v, actual is 1.36v)
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loadafter.jpg
hmmm...good question...wish i knew the answer....i can get 3.6, and have booted up at 3.8.....my problem is stability. i am wc'ed on cpu and nb, so temps are ok~decent.
i really need to up the volts to (cpu) 1.5 or above (in bios), to get things semi-stable, but i fail p95 or lock up, or i core craps out...so for now, i am at 3.2.
i will try the pencil mod, and see if this help on the oc...to those that did the pencil mod, did it help you oc? or get you a higher/stable oc? :shrug:
Sorry about that, corrected in original post :up:
Question
How/what do you guys use to monitor northbridge temps?
Spontaneous reboots, is probably from overheating the NB, anything else I'm missing? can overheated memory do the same? I know overheating CPU will just give you errors on Ortho/Prime before it actually crashes.
Also, can people share their BIOS settings.
Bought a G0 chip today and it appears that my motherboard is limiting me to 375 fsb. Tried all multis and the suggested voltages here but the board will not post over 1500 QDP - posts error code 19 or 1A but usually 19. The cpu is stable as a rock at 375mhz but at 376 it wont even post :mad:
Tried jumping the FSB wall but it appears there aint one as its the same no matter what fsb I input greater than 1500.
Chipset is 570 btw - any ideas?
Looks like its gonna be a long wait until x38:shakes:
[QUOTE=Ic3man;2385809]Bought a G0 chip today and it appears that my motherboard is limiting me to 375 fsb. Tried all multis and the suggested voltages here but the board will not post over 1500 QDP - posts error code 19 or 1A but usually 19. The cpu is stable as a rock at 375mhz but at 376 it wont even post :mad:
Tried jumping the FSB wall but it appears there aint one as its the same no matter what fsb I input greater than 1500.
Chipset is 570 btw - any ideas?
do you have the A1 revision?
Yup - thought that the new revision had sorted clocking quads:confused:
Had similar issues with my old QX but that could be sorted by using the unlocked upward multi - sadly with this quad I'm stuck at a max x9.
There's a hole you're stuck at, I was at that hole for a while too. It seems weird, but you gotta jump above 1550, try 1560 with appropriate voltages.
This has to do with some kind of fsb strapping, was discussed in a thread... long story short, there's some weird holes around 350-375. Just skip over it!
Im guessing you probably tried, but when I hit that hole I found that 400x8(9) worked fine. also try P30 bios if you havent yet.
there is a strange bug that was preventing me from posting with a 7 or 6 multi on 400+ fsb unless I had my vcore set inappropriately high..
I like the voltage mod a lot, combined with higher motherboard voltages it's allowed me to run stable 425x8 3400mhz 1.45v for a few days now. :)
I've built 8 EVGA/Quad systems since G0 came out. All the boards performed pretty much the same as far as holes (or lack of holes) You just have a bad board or not so good quad. RMA the board if you can. EVGA has the best RMA service around. These boards work good with the G0's. Don't give up yet.
yup, ive had many boards, they all performed the same, or very close to one another, you most likely have a really bad board, or a bad cpu, try it on another board or RMA your board....good luck
Tried :
FSB 376 - error 19
FSB 400 - error 19
FSB 425 - error 19
FSB 450 - error 19
with 7,8 & 9 multis (HT & CPU) and all manner of votage variations and still no joy.
I am currently on P30 but have also tried P28 (gives a 66mhzx9 at stock lol).
I'm pretty sure it aint the chip as its 100% stable @ 375x9 but just refuses to boot anything above that even if I drop the multi.
How can I RMA a board that isn't faulty - works fine @ stock speeds and a slight overclock and clocked my c2d's upto 4ghz? IT just dosn't want to play with this quad nor my old QX (had the same FSB wall with that too). Will they accept RMA due to poor Quad overclocking?
ok, one thing to make sure is the fsb vtt voltage, make sure it stays at 1.5, anything lower causes instability.
What are your settings?
A simple overclock, still toying with everything. Check out the temps at idle in 25C ambient
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2...0001ui3.th.jpg
Sent an email to EVGA so heres hoping they will have mercy and replace the mobo. I also mentioned the BSOD I was having:)
they are very good at rma, besides, this mobo has a lifetime warranty.
No reply as yet but I have also made a post on the EVGA forums highlighting this possible solution/answer. I have tried this quad in a 590 chipset and it dosn't have the FSB problem the 570 chipset does so it appears there maybe a link between the chipset revisions - anyone else managing decent FSB with the 570 chipset?
Some have the 570 some have the 590 - hence why some may be having problems and others not. Why a SB should affect the FSB I have no idea but I can't see any other reason as on dualcore I could exceed 500fsb easily and it was stable (500x8) - no such luck with this quad tho - its either stable or wont boot, no inbetween. Usually prime starts to get flaky once you are hitting the cpu limit but for it to go from stable to no boot with a 1mhz increase is bizarre.
My last 6 boards have been 570 (3 rma and 3 from the egg). Able to do 460+ fsb on quad G0's and 500 fsb on c2d. I've been wanting a 590 to play around with since i'm now so familiar with the 570. I think i remember my last 590 doin very well as far as fsb goes. Like i mentioned earlier though, 2 out of the 4 go's i had i couldn't even get stable at 3200 mhz, so don't always assume its the board, not all go's clock well.
590 SB here and I cant boot past 447 FSB on my board. No way, no how...
Here's what a G0 can do with an Ultima 90 and a new EVGA A1 680i, and I'm just getting started :D
I'm still working on pulling vcore out, my vdroop is .01v.
Please people, take notice of my voltages and stop trying to burn up your boards! Only thing I changed was Vcore and Mem. All other are on auto, which work all the way up to 1780FSB, so if you're under that, don't bother upping them.
http://www.goldammo.com/a/multi8.jpg
Gawd I hate these boards. Upgrading my friend's A1 to a Q6600 was the worst PC experience of my life.
Weird, the board seems as stable and as hot at 400x8 as it does 400x9. I wonder if it has a NB cooling issue?
*shrug* i love these boards. I hate the p5n32-E SLI, but I sold it and went for the EVGA 680i. 4.0ghz benchable on my q6600, 3.8ghz daily use. shrug.
I'm having freezing problems which I cant seem to nail down, theyve been plaguing since I built this system a month ago..
watching xvid (7-29-07 ffdshow) while running prime95 was my stability test, prime can run forever, but for some reason Xvid decoding causes my system to freeze.. first the video, then the audio a second later, at seemingly random intervals (5-60min).. Its a really strange crash since there is no bsod or reboot, HDD light is lit which makes me suspect sata drivers are the cause.
Ive tried ultra loose memory timings, different voltages for everything (low-high) different fsb 380-450 with 7,8,9x from 3.2-3.7ghz.. they all have the same result.
never locked up in a game once... but xvid kills it.
Ultimately only stable below 3ghz, even though this cpu can prime fine up to 3.6 :/
can anyone help? :confused:
My 680i 3 first memroy slots are kabot so I'm on 1 gig in 4 slot & just started Orthos.:shocked:
Is that with the pencil mod for the vDroop ?
I may have figured out a workaround.. :)
installed ffdshow_beta1_20061211_clsid, when it asks what codecs to decode I unchecked Divx, Xvid and mp3.
http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...ease_id=469134
then installed http://www.divx.com/divx/windows/download/index.php for the Divx and Xvid decoding.
been testing stable over 4 hours, fingers crossed ;)
Update: My fix didnt work, it's stable running Prime95 and decoding x264 720p overnight.. but after about 3hours Xvid playback still locks the system, I'm about to give up and assume it's some driver problem
The P30 bios has been really good to me. It enabled me to boot up at 3.6 (400 FSB). I also just did the vdrop mod to my board today as well, while dusting out the radiator. So far it's all good! I can use a much lower vcore now! I ended up using a circuit writer pen that I got from Radioshack a couple of years ago when the nForce 4 from DFI was the rage (used it for the SLI mod on Ultra-D).
Thanks for the pictures! It really helped!
the picture says 100 kOhms but I have not tested it myself, just a few times over with the pencil and my droop was fixed. For reasons behind why overdoing it is bad I dont have any, i'm just echoing what ive seen written about the mod before ;)
Hmm, yes, but I really want to be sure, that if I change xx ohm to yy then there is best result for more solid voltage, best would be if there is a little bit more voltage at full load than idle or the same ;) And maybe there is a bad side effect if I change resistance to wrong value.
Maybe author of his vdrop mod or some one else can say exact measurements what they set? And I think you should always use multimeter when doing some hard mods :yepp:
Seems just fine to me. The pen doesn't throw down a huge blob, which is fine. It's like a thin line, which is perfect. The whole goal was to remove to the vdrop problem, which it did. You shouldn't want any drop on it anyway. You should definitely get what you set in BIOS. 1.5 = 1.5 :)
I hope you aren't confusing which mod I did. I just did the two red points that I saw, and nothing else. Blue ones were left alone, as they were an alternative. And the other red area to "ground" was to reduce vcore vdroop under load if I understood it correctly.
Anyway, as far as I'm concerned - it was successful.
I just build my new rig and here's my results so far. Ambient temps are pretty bad during this quick stability test so im gonna wait for it to cool down till I prime, 81f right now. Anyone ever seen this batch? I search a few places including google and didn't find any info on it (L725A883).
http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/5951/occtrf5.jpg
im having issues with my a2 revision motherboard... if an nvidia rep is reading...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...23#post2412223
i hope a bios update can fix my issues...
Thanks
finally picked up a quad when they had them in stock locally so i could pick week/batch
Q6600 G0 L723A 1.2375 VID
Evga 680i A1
bios settings for 450fsb x8 3600mhz
cpu: 1.45
cpu fsb: 1.4
ram: 2.15
spp: 1.35
mcp: 1.5
ht: 1.35
PC2-6400 Elpidia IC
900mhz 1:1 @4-3-3-15-4-18-6-10
in windows idle voltage, as reported by cpuz and everest, is 1.408/1.4v respectively. at load cpuz/everest reports 1.368/1.37.
450fsb is close to max for this cpu or chipset
bios settings for 411fsb x9 3700mhz
cpu: 1.47
cpu fsb: 1.4
ram: 1.975
spp: 1.35
mcp: 1.5
ht: 1.35
PC2-6400 Elpidia IC
811mhz 1:1 @4-3-3-10-4-13-6-10
haven't tried higher as it's 28c~ in my apartment and cores reaching around 67c at prime :(
I haven't checked this thread in a while, sorry! lol
I have a week 23 g0 Q6600
1.525vcore for 3.8ghz daily use
2.150v for memory
1.55v for nb
1.4 for sb
1.55 for nb-sb
I'm not at home, but if I recall my settings correctly, I haven't changed it since I got stable at 3.8ghz for the last couple weeks.
Is there any word on how well the 680i LT boards from EVGA work? I know DFI used the 680i LT because it was supposed to be 'better at overclocking'. I'm trying to decide between an EVGA A1 board (either 680i or LT) and DFI's board.
I already have a couple solid G0 quads, I'd just like to use my twin 7900 GTX cards in my Windows/gaming box and my Abit IP35-Pro and 7300GT in my Linux machine.
Nice thread, by the way.
Update on mine: L723A963
http://home.comcast.net/~bigrigdriver/Q6600.jpg
Has anyone experienced any problems with the P30 bios ? People have been reporting numerous problems that involve the updated bios kiling their boards. I personally had to RMA my evga 680i Ai board because I would the " -- " post code when dropping the multiplier on my Q6600 to 8 and incresing the FSB to 450 and above. If I increased the FSB over 1600 on the 9x multi, I would be able to boot to windows but it wouldnt be possible to do anything as it would reboot.
I did do the pencil mod, but no matter what amount of Vcore I gave it after 3.5ghz, it was never stable to do anything. As for the FSB holes I experienced, jumping over them was never enough as I couldnt do anything but boot into windows. The highest I got my chip (L26A) was to 3.93hz, long enough to take a screen shot. So im not sure if it was the bios update or the pencil mod that began giving me the " --" post code.
On a side note, I never ran into any of these things when dropping the multiplier and increasing the FSB on my E6700 :shrug: . My board was capable of reaching a FSB of 1960 though.
I have both the DFI & Evga A1. I even tried the T1. The DFI is much faster than any other 680i board out there. I think only the Asus Striker is faster but it doesn't do well with quads. That said, the DFI is the most difficult board of any to get a Quad core finally up and clocking once u get past 3 Ghz or so. I'd pick the Evga if you not looking to bench competively. The pencil vdroop mod makes this board the best 680i for stability & ease of setup for quads.
I had mine running Orthos for over 5hours before my computer restarted itself
my settings were
400*9
1.41625 CPU
1.5 FSB
1.55 SPP
1.60 MCP
1.55 HT
temps reached 70,70,66,66 and never went any higher. it just randomly restarted after about 5.5hrs.
im on the P30 BIOS also. my CPU is a L723A batch.
ummm...i run the p30 bios on my A1 at 450 x 8 with nary a problem....rma your mobo...
Yesterday started to test my new Q6600 G0 L720B and my 680i A1 board, had problems to post over 400 FSB, but then I lowered voltages a bit, set HT at 4x not 3x I had before and now I coud do even 475 FSB in BIOS, thats insane I think on 680i board :clap:
Will test more, I hope my board can do 4 at least 440 - 450 FSB for 24/7 or even more :) Aiming for 3.8Ghz, now runing it at 400 x 9 at 1.45v in BIOS, lowest voltage I saw under prime load was 1.360v :shocked: :shrug: Hope vdrop mod will help a lot :yepp:
there were a few fsb holes for me with Q6600 G0, A1 and P30 after 400fsb. also i cannot get the quad stable at all with 1.5v cpu fsb while 1.4v works until 456 fsb where i hit another wall either cpu or mobo fsb limited. also sometimes the board changed the multi to 6x at POST, usually on a bsod.
i would try +5fsb or so at a low multi to see if it's just a fsb hole.
@Matt C try 1.4v fsb might be problem as it was with me.
edit: or try 4x HT link on SPP/MCP
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...2ghzstable.jpg
vcore: 1.3000
fsb: 1.5
SPP: 1.55
MCP: 1.65
HT: 1.55
OK, so i was watching a movie with media player and my computer just restarted by itself, but my pc is totaly stable, i can play games for hours, and prime stable, passes memtest as well with no issues, i remember someone else saying they had an issue with this, anyone? im using vista 32 bit.
OK, so i could even encode a movie with nero and it goes through it just fine........this is annoying.
For the past couple of days I'm trying to get my new Q6600 STABLE AT 3.6 Ghz but without succses. It will run Prime 95 25.4 for 2 hours(then I stop it manually), and remain stable for playing games,video encoding..., basicaly anything. After couple of hours and sometimes even the next day computer locks up while on desktop,doing nothing or sometimes while playing the game.
First I've tried with higher VCore but it's all the same from 1.375 to 1.45. Then I moved on to adjust the other voltages and tried different voltage combinations for SPP, MCP, FSB and HT, and noticed that they are best if left at AUTO(which is completly different from my previous Core2Duo E4300 that needed these voltages set manually for decent overclock). If I set these voltages at anything else then AUTO computer restarts or fails Prime in matter of minutes. Memory is out of question because it's completly stable(tested with Memtest 86+).Also, tried x8 multi with 450 FSB and it wouldn't even boot.
Does anybody have any suggestions on how to resolve this? All help is very much appreciated.
if you want to boot at 450 x 8
i def would set volts manually, and not on auto!
you need to read through this thread for volt settings...i can boot at 450 x 8, but i see no dif in running 400 x 9
I'm not sure if you actually have a G0 or not, since you copy and pasted your message in two threads, and it looked like you were spamming. Sooo, I'll assume you don't. Even though that thread says G0 people can easily wander into the wrong place...
3.6 might be tricky if you are using a B3...
For 3.6, which I wasn't very comfortable with, it needed 1.5475 vcore, and 1.55v for the MCP <-> SPP, and 1.5v FSB. It was stable in the tasks I did, except for long duration heavy load.
My B3 did 3.3 easily. Here were my settings (with vdrop mod).
Vcore: 1.45v
VFSB: Auto/1.4v (1.5v set manually in here works great too)
Memory: 2.1v
SPP: Auto
MCP: Auto
MCP-SPP: 1.45v
The vdrop mod is very important on the 680i board. Since it drops pretty badly. These worked VERY well for 3.3. It did a full 24/7 Prime Small FFT, and ran WCG just fine as well.
I also have a G0 that I got yesterday, it's an L727A. It's doing 3.6 @ 1.45...still doing small FFT's right now. Going on 7 hours. Will do a full 24 though!
The only difference now is that I can do 3.6 with my vFSB @ 1.5v. And it's looking good!
And two hours prime is NOTHING. Make sure you do small FFT's at least..
You also need to keep in mind, NOT every chip is a freaking winner. And don't be lame and return it because it didn't clock the way you wanted it to. Testing to find your max clocks is better, and then once you do, lower it a bit until it's stable 24/7.
QFT. One guy in this thread also left some voltages on Auto, and that works just fine also. I believe he left his MCP-SPP auto, as well as the actual volts for MCP/SPP. You absolutely don't need to shove so many volts at it to get it to run STABLE. As long as you do the VDrop mod, you are a-okay! That's what matters most when you overclock the quad.
Thanks for replying Reinvented and icon57. I posted in G0 OC thread as well because that thread gets visited much more frequently.
Anyway it is G0, batch 720B080. I can do 3.3 Ghz with really low voltages:
Vcore: 1.325v
VFSB: Auto/1.4v
Memory: 2.0v
SPP: Auto/1.4
MCP: Auto/1.5
MCP-SPP: Auto/1.2v
It's all very weird because I needed to set all those voltages at 1.5v for E4300 in order to get it stable at 3.3 Ghz. I did VDrop mod before this Q6600 was instaled.
I follow this and G0 OC thread from beginning and as far as I can see different people say different things,regarding these voltages.
I remember that guy with all the voltages at auto except for Vcore and Mem (NoSoMo I think) ,and also there are those that have set their voltages to something like:
1.55v for SPP
1.65v for MCP
1.55v for SPP-MCP
1.5v for VFSB
I have tried both settings and many in between,but everything else except for AUTO fails Prime pretty quickly.AUTO settings will give me couple of hours to a day of stability.
Temps shouldn't be a problem,case is ventilated properly and TRU 120 EX is doing a good job for cooling the CPU.
Reinvented,can you please give me voltages you're Priming at ,at the moment?Thanks again
Look at my sig!!!(((sry have a se not a1))) I had the board for a couple of days. Thank god for Fry's being in town. Only thing I can add to this thread is that I messed with every setting trying to get 2.7Ghz stable and I eventually went to the EVGA forum where they told me it was my board. 15min later I was in the car driving to FRY's.
I just downloaded core temp and my temps read a lot higher than in the uGuru. 63 instead of 58
i think your 720b is a known good clocker btw
i am not at my comp , so i dont recall exactly the proper name, but in the bios,
i have both htt set at 3x
alot of people dont talk much about this setting
for me it make all the dif between booting or not
give it a try and see if that help ya.
Thanks Icon57,will try that and post back.Already tried x4 multi with no luck.
http://www.insomgaming.net/public/pi...esettings.jpeg
There it is, in all it's glory. :p:
Settings i'm currently priming at still.
VCore: 1.45v
VFSB: 1.5v
Memory: 2.1
can't remember the order for the other two that come next, but they are on auto.
SPP<->MCP: 1.55v
That's good for 400+ FSB I'd say..
Add more vCore as needed. Go up in increments of 1 setting as it fails prime, and you will soon fine your max and what is required after you prime for a bit. Remember, SMALL FFTS! and nothing else! Blend does mostly ram, and is useless, especially if you leave your memory at DDR2 800. It really doesn't need to get a WHOLE lot like other people like to say, or actually do. They are just silly. These SHOULD be the ONLY settings you need to set manually and leave on auto. Applying too much voltage can of course cause instability too.
Hope this helps..
Thanks again for settings.Will try them as soon as finish with x3 HT testing,and will get back to this thread.
well just installed my q6600 g0 in the evga 680i A1, with the p35 i was able to hit3.6 with 1.39v loaded and right now i am testing my first oc at 3.4 with 1.32v loaded on the 680i. i will be trying more after i have tested this for stability. sorry coretemp restarts my computer i dont know why, so i am using tat, tells me the temp on 2 cores. all this is on water, dual readiator d-tek fusion on my cpu.
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9767/34ghzjd8.jpg
her finally some shots of my new rig. waiting for my 8800 gtx's, right now living it with the old 6600gt
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3817/myrigor6.jpg
i am testing at 3.6 (450x8) right now 40 mins in to prime. mem at 2.2v, cpu at 1.5v in bios and 1.408 loaded, this chip needs only 1.39 to do 3.6 so might reduce that a little if its stable at this speed. NB voltage at 1.55v, and all other voltages at 1.4v.
coretemp at 60c on the highest core. i used to see nvmonitor way off core temp when 680i first launched but nvidia seems to have programmed nvmonitor to adjust to core temp, nvmonitor now with the latest bios reports exact same temps as core temp and tat actually shows my temps 5c cooler than coretemp at 55c on the coolest core and 56c on the hottest core.
Im having problems too with geting my Quad G0 stable, but a lot of thing changed when I set FSB voltage to 1.3v not 1.4v and 1.5v, yesterday I was taking way to get stable 425FSB and it was successful, before with high FSB I was able to get 400 x 9, but it was not posible even boot at 430 - 440 FSB, now with lower FSB voltage I can boot fine with 450FSB or more in bios.
Yesterday testing gave me 425 x 8 = 3400 Mhz and it was set with 1:1 momery @ 850 Mhz 4-4-4-8 2T! Got it 8+ hours Quad Prime stable :) A lot of voltage tweak is needed and every board acts differently, 425 FSB will be tested with 9x multi today, hope my board can do Prime on 450FSB with Quad :)
And by the way here is my max CPU validation on water, not too bad - 4.3Ghz from 2.4Ghz :ROTF: And it looks like its boards limit, as 480FSB on Quad and 680i is very high. Must get 500FSB posible Quad board for testing this more :rofl: When I will get it for 24/7 then I wil try to get few more Mhz, vdrop mod will be done too. Now the limit is free time for all this!
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/241580.png
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=241580
Yes, im on 4x multi, I was runing 3x, but that was not good for 400+ FSB, increased to 4x and all is good now :) I can post my voltages later when i will be at home, but they are not firm, I just tried and they worked, maybe for 425 x 9 i will need to add more not only vcore. Keep trying :)