DFI LP UT X58-T3EH8 - First bench, bios screens etc

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Originally Posted by loc.o

Same here. I can hardly believe it does anything for temp.

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I had some lazy (and too little TIM paste) when i installed the FLAME FREEZER first time. And it wasn't doing much good. I reinstalled it with a decent TIM paste (a good portion of it), and my system-temp drooped 3'C at Idle, and with a good fan over NB, now it holding under 60'C under primeload.

It is still dangling there, and moves around on the touch, but a good portion av decent TIM paste is doing a good job for keeping the contact and transferring the heat, i believe.

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Originally Posted by rusty

what's your batch ?

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3841A613
CPU is pretested @ 3,9Ghz with 1,296v, 1,34v VTT, RAM 8x, QPI 18x and 16x NB

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Originally Posted by Dami3n

Well, i think 1,5v vtt is enough :D
Did you try alternating memory sticks in the slots?

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yes, but didnt work.

I ordered a new PSU (enermax revolution), i will get it this week and i hope it works good then.
I use a old Be Quiet P6 530w PSU, because my Corsair HX620 is @ RMA.

So i'm getting high load pwm temps (74C) and i want to add a fan to either that area or for the NB, anyone have pictures of what size fans u used as well as how you mounted it? i need ideas, thanks!

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Originally Posted by i7luver

So i'm getting high load pwm temps (74C) and i want to add a fan to either that area or for the NB, anyone have pictures of what size fans u used as well as how you mounted it? i need ideas, thanks!

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Here is my Intel X58 CPU-cooler mod, LOL :p:.

I removed the metal, and with a bit cutting on one of the fan-legs, woops it is sitting firm and fine on the NB. EDIT: i removed one the push-pins and used the other side of it to hook it to the NB-cooler (it goes right inn and sits firm).
This is load at 100%, so i connected it to the system fan-connector which has a good speed-regulation, and it spins quietly at 1300RPM idle, and up to 2000RPM under primeload. It makes some noise at this speed, but keeps the temp under 60'C under primeload. It is still not spinning at 100%, and the noise is not too bad, but the cooling is good. :)

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/126...re80lt8.th.jpg

This solution occupies a couple av PCIe-lanes (which i don't need), and all my components are very happy to have that hot GTX 295 at he bottom of the case, but if you need those lanes, Thermalright "HR-05 IFX" seams to be a good solution (i haven't tried this).

this board is so hot, it's running with 54C NB and 59C PWM on idle with no any overclock, just with stock board cooling and box cooler on open stand
pipes and heatsinks are really hot, so at least contact between chips and cooling system is good

My temps are really good. Now in idle with my oc, i have 41º in the nb and 50º in pwm, without mods or fans.

PD-I don´t live in a fridge :D

nice temps, how did you manage to get it so low?
any pics?

I need to increase the VTT of my CPU so that the USB ports on my board can recognize my USB 2.0 external harddrive probably. Does anybody know if the VTT and the 8 USB ports have any relation?

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Originally Posted by rioja

nice temps, how did you manage to get it so low?
any pics?

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Nothing special, i have only the fans of the case(4 slipstream 1200), and one in the noctua. This are my load temps,
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/213...00prime.th.jpg

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Originally Posted by Dami3n

Nothing special, i have only the fans of the case(4 slipstream 1200), and one in the noctua. This are my load temps,
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/213...00prime.th.jpg

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mmm its showing 64 pwm n 45 nb on ur screen shot

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Originally Posted by i7luver

mmm its showing 64 pwm n 45 nb on ur screen shot

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In full load :up:

DDR3 prises has fallen, and I'm considering to go for 12GB RAM. But i have a couple of questions and would like to get some opinions.

The system is handling BCLK 211 (@4.01GHZ 19x211) easily with 6GB RAM, but I'm wondering if 12GB wold make it more difficult (if not imposable?) to run at the same speed/BCLK?

I'm using 6GB OCZ 1333MHZ CL7 now, and I guess it wold be best to go with the same sticks, but what would be advantage/disadvantage if i add 6GB OCZ 1600MHZ CL7? (prises are almost the same).

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Originally Posted by Dami3n

Nothing special, i have only the fans of the case(4 slipstream 1200), and one in the noctua.

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no i mean picture of your system
those 5 case fans are just case fans, or they blow directly to board components?

update: I have noticed that board has sticker R.A52 over R.A51

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/564/si850048.jpg

What the difference between these two revisions?

At last it clocks..It's not much..First try with the DFI..All air..untweaked + vista ult x64
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3373/3d06vista.th.jpg

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Originally Posted by rioja

I have noticed that board has sticker R.A52 over R.A51
What the difference between these two revisions?

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I have R.A56 http://kolobok.us/smiles/icq/pardon.gif

not sure what different the revision makes, but for DFI the revision sometime changes to indicate the different shipping bioses with boards... what did your R.A51/52 and R.A56 bios versions ship with ?

I do not remember, may be 1.14 http://kolobok.us/smiles/icq/blush.gif
now LX58D217

FYI, my R.A51 came with 12/18 out of the box

eva...you stated that if C3 state is enabled, one can get 22x multi with four cores on a i7 920. So far, nobody has been able to get 22x, just get 21x. Is there something else
that must be set, maybe something in Vista like power plan? Anything you can think of?

well Kevin/OPB did not I haven't tried it myself, only tried with 1 core and 22x with older bios IIRC 01/06 beta. Anyway when i tried it 22x my max bclk was much lower than with 20x or 21x multi

with both my 2x i7 920 3836A756 cpus with TRUE120 air cooling

22x 1 core = 205-210bclk
21x 4 cores = 227-231bclk
20x 4 cores = 228-230bclk

22x wasn't even worth playing with compared to 20x and 21x (Turbo) :)

my .A52 has 18\12 bios also

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Originally Posted by ChaosAD

Hello all and nice to meet you here. Yesterday I bought this DFI and its paired with an 920 3842A and Adata 6Gb 2133X. Since i run with intel stock cooler atm, cause i wait for my new case, i made some mild oc tests to see what this baby can do. I must admit that this combo is really sensitive in voltage adjustements. But i have two questions atm: 1. Is it normal that DFI Led screen post FF while in normal operation under win? Thats what its supposed to show? 2. Currently testing 21x181, cpu 1.25v idle-1.22v load, VTT 1.26v idle/load, 1.55v dimm at 1800c9. Is it normal to need more vtt than vcore?

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FF is the normal code for "Bios is done, next...". It's the last code possible in a 2 digit hexadecimal readout...it literally means 15-15 which is as high as it counts....it's good to see FF. That means it passed everything and now your OS can/should boot.

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Originally Posted by OUTSIDE

My patience is dead... really.

I put MAX Vcore and MAX VTT... the mems to the min of Mhz and... nothing, I can't get more than 4360MHz (207.6x21)...

I can't get 209 or 210. I put the mult. to 18, 19... but I can't pass of 209 of BCLK... what can I do?

I have it watercooled. The mems are the 3x2GB DDR3 PC3-12800 Platinum OCZ 7-7-7-20 at 1600 1.65v.

I've tried with HT off but nothing... anybody helps me?

I've tried too all your BIOS configurations but... the systems doesn't boot up. When the Windows Booting Screen appears... it freezes and restarts.

Thx for all people!

ByE!

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Wait...you already have a 65% overclock and it's not enough :shrug:. Getting your BCLK over 200 is tough. Very tough to get anything over 210 for anyone. Good luck with your bios tweaking, I would guess at this point you would need to address timings and other values to squeeze those last few BLCKs out.

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Originally Posted by sjakie666

as i stated earlier.. i have problems with a fan still spinning after i shut down my computer. i tried a other psu tonight and the issue is still there.. i even tried other electric points in my house! i'm lost.. anyone got more idea's???

thnx in advance

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hmm, don't use the mobo fan headers?! All of my fans run off either my fan rheobus or off the PSU directly. If you absolutely have to have it there...for whatever reason, turn off your PSU when you shut down then. Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by cstkl1

first find the vcore. try this reasoning first
Vcore
ure base uncore is 2400 and with vtt 1.2v. then look at ure dram most of the dram ic's are rated 1333mhz etc
so y not try a low multi with ht on/off say 18, dram 1200mhz bclk 200, uncore 2400, vtt set 1.23, dram set 1.53, dram timing 9-9-9-24 2T tRFC 88 ( depending on ure ram or go 10-10-10-24 2T,) set a vcore and run linx or ibt full mem stress.. make sure u use up atleast 95% of ure mem available. for 3gb try 2.5gb(10-20rounds) stress and 6gb around 5.2gb stress ( 5-10rounds).
take note i7 voltage is very heat dependent so the better ure cooling the lower ure voltages.. dont ak me why.
example i can pass 3 rounds of at 4.2ghz ht 0ff at 1.32v but to pass 10 i need around 1.37v..
u can lower this later once u have found ure vtt,dram voltages.

VTT
ok say once u found ure vcore example 3.8ghz bclk 200 . so say example for most ppl out there using ram at dram 1600mhz CL8.
up ure dram to 1600, uncore 3200, set ure dram at relax timings first example 9-9-9-24 2T tRFC 88. vdimm at 1.65v, vtt 1.36, ioh/ich 1.15
this time run memtest hci. for 3gb say around 2000% around 2 hours and 6gb around 300 % around 2 hours.try to stress the cores and ram wit this if ure runing with ht so run 8xmemtest hci with equal amount so ure mem usage atleast 95%. very easy to find the vtt.
reboot issue, hang, just up ure vtt. errors are usually vdimm and timings. ioh voltage sometimes errors and also u can see ure usb devices acting weird.

VDIMM and Memtimings
CHange ure vdimm to either set 1.65/1.665v with the rated timings.
FOr me currently running prime95 25.9 64bit blend. IF u can pass the first group of 15 mins.. ure good to go. Errors in the this first group of test the 1024kb is vdimm, mem timings related. bsod/hang.. 1n/2n and vtt related.
double check with memtest hci and memtest + to be sure.


try this way rusty cause showing a template.. everybody has to guess on what u have a confirmed voltage and etc etc and guess whats not stable.

hope this helps.
doing it this way u eliminate each voltages
and also u will know which voltage is insufficient for the problem that occurs etc.

after than if linx is not the vcore that u want.. hey try others like prime etc and lower the voltages to what is acceptable and stable for u.

btw cpu setting disable everything except executable bits.. ht on/off up to u. ppm disabled also.

when ure done with the above run linx/ibt again.. take note because of the increase in vtt .. ure proc temps and system temps will go up

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Would you mind if I copy/paste this for some other forums :D. Pretty good explanation of how to work your way up into a stable OC instead of just "trying what others posted" I give credit where credit is due but just wanted to ask.

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Originally Posted by oxyyy

Is it normaly to become an bluescreen when vcore is set to low?

I got a pretestet cpu here, its tested @ 1,296v for 3 hours prime, if i set this voltage i got a bluescreen after a few minutes prime.
:(

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Yes, too low of any voltage can exhibit BSOD or lockups. Pretested how? Did you do it or are you taking someones word for it? In what? With what ram? Was that voltage measured with a multimeter or bios rating or software reading? There is more than just vCore voltage involved in an OC. Even with almost identical parts you often have to use different settings to get stable. Back down everything and find BCLK max, then CPU max, then find the best combination that you can run...imo anyways. I like seeing others show their settings but I don't ever use them. I just take note that X person had to bump up his IOH/OCH @ xxx BCLK for example and keep that in mind when I reach my tops.

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Originally Posted by GNU

One short question because I'm a little bit confused about the sense.

What'S the difference between core and uncore and what are the influence of both?

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Core is, well the core. Uncore is everything NOT the core. I don't know the 100% specifics but it is your memory controller and cache for example...I think. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong with a better more specific definition.

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Originally Posted by taffywong

I need to increase the VTT of my CPU so that the USB ports on my board can recognize my USB 2.0 external harddrive probably. Does anybody know if the VTT and the 8 USB ports have any relation?

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I was under the impression that IOH/ICH had more effect on USB stability but VTT affects overall stability period so it does make some sense.

Can anyone post the exact command for flashing the bios? Is it "awdflash lx58d217.bin" or i need something more? Any best bios atm or should i stick with my 106 that the board was shipped with? Also about memory lowgap, is there any difference in performance among the different values?

I use the USB method explained here and here.

It's all prescripted to run. If you want to know what command switches they use I suppose you could look at the batch file in the download. I'm at work so sorry can't check my bios boot usb stick myself.

Thinking back to when I used to use floppies I recall just running awdflash.exe and then entering the file name but it's been a while. My floppy drives have been collecting dust in my closet for a very long time now.

I have the TE3H6 myself not the TE3H8 but I am using the latest official which is 2-17 I think..again not at home atm but whatever the last official one was, the newest beta only mentioned CPU micro-codes so I didn't bother flashing to it.

DFI LP UT X58-T3eH8, 02/06 BIOS
i7 920
3x2GB OCZ PC3-15000 Reaper CL9 1866MHz 9-9-9-28
220x19, Memory 1320MHz 6-7-6-21
HT On, Turbo Off
SAPPHIRE 4870 Crossfire
Green Slots Used For Memory

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Genie BIOS Setting

Main BIOS Page
 Exit Setup Shut down:............Mode 2
 O.C. Fail Retry Counter:.........Enabled
 O.C. Fail CMOS Reload:...........Disabled

 PPM Function:....................Enabled
 Turbo Mode Function:.............Disabled
x 1 core Max Turbo Ratio:.........20x
x 2 core Max Turbo Ratio:.........20x
x 3 core Max Turbo Ratio:.........20x
x 4 core Max Turbo Ratio:.........20x
 CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio:.......19x

 * BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
 QPI Control Settings:............Enabled
 QPI Link Fast Mode:..............Enabled
 QPI Frequency:...................Auto
 CPU Base Clock(BCLK):............220 Mhz
 Boot Up CPU Base Clock:..........Auto
 PCIE Clock:......................100 Mhz
 DRAM Frequency:..................BCLK*06 Mhz
 UnCore Frequency:................BCLK*16 Mhz

 CPU Spread Spectrum:.............Disabled
 PCIE Spread Spectrum:............Disabled

CPU Feature
 Set VR Current Limit Max:........Disabled
 Thermal Management Control:......Enabled
 EIST Function:...................Enabled
 CxE Function:....................Auto
 Execute Disable Bit:.............Enabled
 Virtualization Technology:.......Enabled

  ***** Logical Processor Setting *****
 Intel HT Technology:.............Enabled
 Active Processor Cores:..........All

DRAM Timing
 Channel Interleave Setting:......Auto
 Rank Interleave Setting:.........Auto
 Memory LowGap:...................1536M

 DRAM Command Rate:...............1N
 CAS Latency Time (tCL):..........6
 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD):.......7
 Precharge Delay (tRP):...........6
 RAS# Precharge (tRAS):...........21
 REF to ACT Delay (tRFC):.........Auto
 Write to PRE Delay (tWR):........Auto
 Rank Write to Read (tWTR):.......Auto
 ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD):.........Auto
 Row Cycle Time (tRC):............Auto
 Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP):......Auto
 Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW):........Auto

Voltage Setting
 O.C. Shut Down Free:.............Enable O.C.S.D.F
 CPU VID Control:.................1.38750V
 CPU VID Special Add Limit:.......Enabled
 CPU VID Special Add:.............Auto
 Vcore Droop Control:.............Enabled
 DRAM Bus Voltage:................1.635v
 DRAM PWM Switch Frequency:.......Nominal Frequency
 DRAM PWM Phase Control:..........2 Phase Operation
 CPU VTT Special Add:.............Auto
 CPU VTT Voltage:.................1.32v
 VTT PWM Switch Frequency:........Nominal Frequency
 VTT PWM Phase Control:...........2 Phase Operation
 CPU PLL Voltage:.................1.80v
 IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage:............1.11v
 IOH Analog Voltage:..............1.10v
 ICH 1.5 Voltage:.................1.5v
 ICH 1.05V Voltage:...............1.05v
 DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF:......+00.0%
 DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF:......+00.0%
 DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF:......+00.0%
 ADDR/CMD VREF Control:...........Disabled
x DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF:.....110
x DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF:.....110
x DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF:.....110
 CPU QPI Drive Strength:..........Normal
 IOH QPI Drive Strength:..........Normal

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