nice work george.....really a good kit you have....my tracer don't like 444 and also GKX prefer to go up with 5.5.5
i'll test again...but also my impression was that x38 was a bit slower...
nice work george.....really a good kit you have....my tracer don't like 444 and also GKX prefer to go up with 5.5.5
i'll test again...but also my impression was that x38 was a bit slower...
eva2000 you really seem to like this board :)
I hope they will be available again when the wolfies come out in January.
Didn't have time to try any other sticks. About the best these will do. They don't come close to your Tracers Eva.
http://edgeofstability.com/images/x3...x7_everest.jpg
http://edgeofstability.com/images/x3.../532x7_32m.jpg
Code:CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Disabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Disabled
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled
Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................7x
CPU Clock.................................532 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................333/800
PCIE Clock................................100MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................1.4125V
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.420V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.604V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.409V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................110
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................110
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................110
DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Disabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................10
All Precharge to Act......................4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................28
Performance Level.........................8
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................3
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................4
Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................280ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................490pd
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................560ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................350ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................840ps
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................280ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................420ps
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................420ps
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................420ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................840ps
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................3CLK
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................3CLK
you did a fine job there tweaking it, Praz!:up:
my mushkin requires much more voltage compared to my ballistix
ballistix needs 2.17v for 1200 n mushkin needs 2.32v
testing out the mushkin it can do 3-3-3-8 @ 800mhz 2.3v n 5-4-4-12 @ 1200mhz2.35v but no way i can go higher than 1200 is it possible i have d9gkx n not d9gmh in them? or it is just a crap pair that i got from rma?
thanks .. play with clock fine delay particularly dimm 1 and 3 clock fine delay and sometimes command clock fine delay :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CapFTP
nice FSB on that cpu!.. my E6850 L720A489 maxes out at 502FSB on DFI X38, 501FSB on Asus Blitz Formula and 490FSB on DFI P35. Is that 12/18 bios with ps values for clock fine delay ?? seems more confusing than single/doubel digit values ?? I can't seem to flash to 12/18 bios it won't recognize it in winflash - says please load correct bios!. AWDFLASH only ??? It recognizes 11/28 bios though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
play with clock fine delay can make a huge difference! i.e. 600mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.19v not memtest stable after clock fine delay tweaks 640mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.19v memtest stable :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
yeah i do... happy it matches max FSB as my Asus Blitz Formula unlike my DFI P35 which was 10FSB less max FSB. Only outstanding issue on DFI 38 is working 5:8 divider and more stable 3:5 and 4:5 divider fix. 1:1, 5:6 and 2:3 seem fine though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Den Leiw
i tried your fine delay settings eva takes 2.3v i can do 1200 with 2.2 with value ram but my mushkin xp2-8500 want 2.32v @1200 5-5-5-15 or 5-4-4-15 anything less i get errors in memtest
You can't just use same clock fine delay values as mine.. different memory need different values..
so far tested 2 sets of crucial ballistix 8500 non-tracer and 1 set of crucial ballistix 8500 tracers, all 3 pairs need different values which can further vary depending on memory clock speed, fsb, memory divider and timings used..
Here's a general explanation and guide to find the optimal clock fine delay values for your particular memory at a a particular memory clock on a particular memory divider (can change depending on divider/mem clock used) http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4743 (pen, paper and memtest86+ v1.70 are your friends :D ;) )
i honestly dont need to hit 1300+ eva but still gonna try lol
my thing is this mushkin memory i got freakin me out takin way too much votls to be stable i think its d9gkx
any way to test to make sure? withought removin heatspreaders lol
my ballistix do 1200+ 2.13v @1200MHZ but dont do 3-3-3-8 @800mhz like my mushkins
i gonna see if the board likes micron fatties
\Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
That's how the 12/07 and 12/18 BIOS is set up. I prefer it that way as you know the actual time delay in pico seconds. However it doesn't seem we have access to all the values. If using defaults the board may set a value of 465ps. In the BIOS there will be an option of 420ps or 490ps Obviously the board has access to values that we don't as of yet. Another thing I've noticed is when setting back to Current Value. Instead of reverting to board default it locks it to whatever value is presently set. Have to do a FSB change to get the board to actually go back to auto selecting the value.
I'm not sure what the processor will do on this board . It did 560FSB on the P35.
Edit: I've got the board tore down right now. Tomorrow when I get it back together I'll load up WinFlash. I usually flash from a USB drive so haven't tried WinFlash with this board.
that's normal older D9x stuff need such volts... newer D9 seem to be alot better :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
weird... might stick with 11/28 for now then heh..Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
btw, what you set to boot from in bios for USB drives.. never could get USB drive with bootable floppy image to boot on DFI boards... tried USB-FDD/USB-ZIP/USB-HDD and no luck ??
If it's configured to be bootable, hit escape during post. When the boot screen displays it should be listed as a hard drive option.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
i finally got high fsb stable:D cpu maxed out 580fsb on dq6 this is max for now
weird i cant do it @ cas 5 but i'm good with cas 4
Praz has the easiest way but you can go into the bios and set your USB drive as the primary booting hard drive out of all the other drives (i have three) and then make sure the hard drive is selected as the 1st boot device.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
nb and vtt volts for that FSB?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
1.72v for nb vtt
i can only do it with cas 4 though not cas 5
Does anyone here use the DiamondFlash Image method of flashing the bios?
How do you make your flashdriver "bootable"?
If you could buy a new pair of 2x1gb RAM for this mobo (X38) witch one would you choose? (ballistix, ocz reaper, corsair etc)??
I'm putting up my xmas rig together and I don't know much about this mobo yet.
So far I got this:
- 2 x Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
- 2 x VisionTek 900203 Radeon HD 3850 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Video Card is Crossfire
- Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AL1065
- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepp
I just got a set of Crucial DDR2-667 Ballistix from Newegg. I am running them at DDR2-928 with 4-4-4-9 timings using 2.0vdimm. I had another set that clocked and tracked just like the 10th anniversary in my sig which will do 1200+ at 5-5-5-15. I haven't pushed these yet but I will and I expect the same performance. For $41 AMIR you can't go wrong.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
the 3850s work beautifully on this board, I wish i could keep the ones I'm using
i got 10 gigs n from all of em the ballistix 8500s are the bestQuote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Happy Holiday Guys! Treat For You:rofl:
Heres a Really Nice DFI Wallpaper and some Christmas Cheer Please Click Me!:D
Might as well be consistant:rofl:
Thanks will try that.. in meantime :D
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracer @675Mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.55v
Swapped the dimm slots for this pair of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracers from dimm slot 2+4 (yellow slots) to 1+3 (green slots) and seems can overclock a bit better. I can now hit 675Mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.55v - highest ever CAS5 memory clock for this pair of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracers at Super Pi 32M passable speeds!
Still 32M time seems around 4-10 seconds slower at 3600Mhz mark than 965P/P35 chipset. I guess the loosened internal latencies on X38 allow memory to clock higher but at a cost of clock for clock performance ? Still I am looking forward to 3dmark benchmarks with X38 x16+x16 PCI-E slots :)
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Super Pi 1M
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Super Pi 32M
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DFI LP LT X38-T2R Bios Settings
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PC Health Status
Adjust CPU Temp: +7C
CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 8x
- Target CPU Clock: 3601
CPU Clock: 450
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 266/800
- Target DRAM Speed: 1353
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.2875
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.55
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51
NB Core Voltage: 1.643
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.393
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 6
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 11
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: 8
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 6
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 11
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: 6
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING)
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 4
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 5
All Precharge to Act: 4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 30
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 5
Read delay phase adjust: Enter
Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 3
ALL PRE to Refresh: 4
Managed to shave 4 seconds off 32M time and drop memory latency a tad :)
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...2ms_memset.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...est_memset.png
how many crucial kits u have overthere ???
:D
great numbers...fine...!!!
i was playing yesterday with my unique set of tracer, and i noticed that the fine delay is not always the same...
I mean: let's imagine you 're finding out your max frequency with a set:
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 2
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 10
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: 7
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 2
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 6
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 10
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: 6
you fail...you reboot and reload your safe CMOS reloaded settings....(where you just specified More aggressive, but not fixed by hand the numbers...) and tadaaaaa.....you can sometimes find other combinations, like:
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 0
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 5
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 8
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: 5
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 0
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 4
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 8
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: 4
which is really similar but seems all just shifted by -2 downwards.....and may happen also it increase....and give the same stability...
seems like a phase shifting or smething like this ??:confused:
3 sets of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracer and 8 sets of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Non-tracers :D
Current values will move with mem clock/divider etc so what you have for current values at say 660mhz won't be same as 666mhz. Unless you manually set the clock fine delay values then they'll stick :)
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracer @681.5Mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.60v
Bumped up vdimm and 32M @681.5Mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.60v !
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...cpuz_valid.png
Super Pi 32M
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DFI LP LT X38-T2R Bios Settings
Quote:
PC Health Status
Adjust CPU Temp: +7C
CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 8x
- Target CPU Clock: 3634
CPU Clock: 454
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 266/800
- Target DRAM Speed: 1364
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.325
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.60
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51
NB Core Voltage: 1.665
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.409
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 6
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 11
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: 8
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 6
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 11
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: 6
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING)
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 4
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 5
All Precharge to Act: 4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 30
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 5
Read delay phase adjust: Enter
Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Enabled
Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Enabled
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 3
ALL PRE to Refresh: 4