ABS/Tagan Black Pearl - evolution of a water-cooled rig

I think I know what KG means, and he's absolutely right. He's talking about the width of the sides of the jig blades.

What I'm calling the "side" is what has the brand name and TPI rating on it (not the thickness of the blade.) So, some jig blades have sides that are this size:

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Others, this size:

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To illustrate, it would be a blade the width of the first from the top in this photo or the second one up from the bottom:

http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/upl...ettunified.jpg

See how much thinner they are? The thinner sides will allow you to make radial cuts better since the back end of the blade won't be bumping into the excess metal outside your cutting area as much. Think of it like trying to make a U-turn in a school bus as compared to a Volkswagen Beetle. Sort of the same principle. :)

Ok let me try to give you a better understanding of what I mean. :rolleyes:

As you are cutting a straight line, it's the teeth at the front of the blade that are doing all the cutting work. :yepp:
The width of the teeth determines the how much material is cut out, and allows the rest of the blade to move between the now separated pieces.
I used the word "narrow" I now see I should have called it the depth of the blade.

If I was to cut a tight radius with a blade that had a depth of 1" and a "thickness of say, 1/16" like a standard ruler.
As I turn the jigsaw to follow around the line of the tight radius, the back of the 1" blade will rub up against the edge.
This will limit how much I can turn the blade before it jams and starts to bounce around.

Now if I was to change the blade to one that had a "depth" of 1/4" and kept the "thickness to, 1/16" as the depth is narrower the turning circle will be smaller giving me tighter radius
as the angle it can now turn inside the 1/16" cut is greater.

It's a bit like how a big truck needs the whole road to turn a sharp corner and a small car can turn easily in it's own lane.

Does this make any sense to anyone? :shrug:

Just use the blades you have got Shazza, as you go around the corner, if the blade starts to grab or bounce around, just go back a bit and cut some of the waste out to give the blade a bigger gap to turn in.
You may well need to do this 3-4 times on your way around and you may end up with a 3/16" gap around the inside of the corner, it's only waste, no biggy. :up:
The thing is to take your time, go slow, the more you can remove with the jigsaw the less you will have to file down later and to me thats a good thing as filing sux, it's just one up from sanding.

As for scroll saw blades, he is on the right track as yes the depth of the blades are really narrow and can cut really really sharp angles, however there either a hand tool or a bench scroll saw, different tool.
You could alway take his advice if you want and get a new toy to play with. :rolleyes:

Time for bed anyhow as it is 3.17 am.

OK, so the monitor showed up just before I went to work on Tuesday so I couldn't play with it until I got home.

shazza, I got one with a slightly different housing externally but I'm guessing not much as probably changed on the inside.

I found the left side of the monitor was the weak spot. It has these alignment pins which don't attach to anything.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5269/leftsidepins.jpg


These clips are on the right side
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/471...tsideclips.jpg


and they snap into the loops while the other clips here are on the top and bottom.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/870...ightcorner.jpg

If you squeeze from top to bottom on the left hand side, it'll pop open a small gap that you can stick a screw driver into, or better yet, a steel I/O slot cover. ;) You should then be able to twist it and pop a few more clips loose. The back snaps onto the front.

HTH:up:


. . .and for Wezly, the Easel stand. :D
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/50/easelstand.jpg

well done waterlogged XD...mental note if i need anything taken apart go to waterlogged...

Alrighty then!!! Nice job, Waterlogged. I will giver 'er a go after I get some coffee (slept in today :p).


And, thanks again Graeme for the cutting tips. I will report back on progress, once there is progress.

Now I understand that easel stand!

Thanks! haha :P

Just reporting back that Waterlogged's hint worked wonders. I was able to squeeze, twist, and pull it off*. Only difference is, mine came completely out of the back housing, as there are two additional screws holding the bezel to the "works." No issue to remove those and pop it back in the case (minus bezel). Yay, one problem solved, many left to go. No pics ... been busy practicing my jigsaw skills and more hours re-doing tubing layout and cabling. The Cpt's success with the router has me re-thinking, pondering, puzzling, and in a daze.




*edit - umm, I was speaking about the bezel on the little USB monitor.

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Just reporting back that Waterlogged's hint worked wonders. I was able to squeeze, twist, and pull it off*.

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*edit - umm, I was speaking about the bezel on the little USB monitor.

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What.. did you hear the collective groan of the male forum population? Is that the Lorena Bobbitt method that Waterlogged suggested???

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What.. did you hear the collective groan of the male forum population? Is that the Lorena Bobbitt method that Waterlogged suggested???

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I just bursted my morning coffee all over my keyboard, thanks. :mad: :D

Anyway, looking good, shazza, as always. I'm getting so much inspiration just looking at these topics that I have to do something for my FT01 at summer.

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Originally Posted by shazza

Just reporting back that Waterlogged's hint worked wonders. I was able to squeeze, twist, and pull it off*. Only difference is, mine came completely out of the back housing, as there are two additional screws holding the bezel to the "works." No issue to remove those and pop it back in the case (minus bezel). Yay, one problem solved, many left to go. No pics ... been busy practicing my jigsaw skills and more hours re-doing tubing layout and cabling. The Cpt's success with the router has me re-thinking, pondering, puzzling, and in a daze.




*edit - umm, I was speaking about the bezel on the little USB monitor.

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Glad to hear it worked out shazza. :up: Don't really think that was a difference, mine has 2 screws holding the screen/PCB to the bezel as well. I just didn't mention it because it was a non issue. . .or, did you try turning the screws the wrong way?:p::ROTF:. . .:para:. . .:wasntme:*Watches for something resembling a hammer to come flying my way*

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What.. did you hear the collective groan of the male forum population? Is that the Lorena Bobbitt method that Waterlogged suggested???

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*GROAN*

You had to mention that didn't you? Mr. Bobbitt is not one of my hometown's better exports. :shakes:

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*GROAN*

You had to mention that didn't you? Mr. Bobbitt is not one of my hometown's better exports. :shakes:

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<impression=nelson>HA HA!!!</impression> you come from the same town as mr. bobbitt.

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did you try turning the screws the wrong way?

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hehe ... not this time. Only problem was, I never put the screws for the back casing back in, so the whole innards popped off into my hand - nearly scared me to death.



Whew! Worked all day and virtually got the windows in the side panel done:


http://shazza53.smugmug.com/Computer...17_WuNXm-L.jpg





Would have taken photos of the window cutting process, but watching me clickin' in Photoshop wouldn't be too exciting. (I did say virtually... )

If only I was a skilled photoshopper, I wouldn't have to build this dang thing at all!

You did a great job of cutting the window. Looking great so far. Love the red tubing.:yepp:

Lol. Virtual.
In that case, my build is done! :D

Is it just me or does your loop sorta have a a Valentine's Day feel to it?
Kinda, sorta?

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You did a great job of cutting the window. Looking great so far. Love the red tubing.:yepp:

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Oops - thanks, Red-5. Didn't mean to mislead you though - I haven't made the window cuts yet. These are just photoshopped, to give me an idea of the layout. Still debating on placement of the display.

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Originally Posted by CptDreadFlint

Lol. Virtual.
In that case, my build is done! :D

Is it just me or does your loop sorta have a a Valentine's Day feel to it?
Kinda, sorta?

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:p: that is the look I was going for, although it came out more abstract than I would have liked. Decided to go with the quad in the bottom, so lost the dual rad at the top to maximize airflow. Experimented with the more traditional shorter run from the bottom of the GPU, but it looks bad.

I like the way the tubes are routed.

As well as the PSU cables.

Thanks for hangin' in here with me, Wezly. Beginning to get a bit frustrated with pace of progress, so sat down and made myself a list of what I have to do - one sticky note was not enough :p:

http://shazza53.smugmug.com/Computer...95_Kp5sq-S.jpg http://shazza53.smugmug.com/Computer...06_Hhtz6-S.jpg http://shazza53.smugmug.com/Computer...15_b8XcQ-S.jpg http://shazza53.smugmug.com/Computer...30_Uk822-S.jpg

That photoshopped window looks picture perfect to Shazza. :up:

Looking forward to see how it all works out.

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Thanks for hangin' in here with me, Wezly. Beginning to get a bit frustrated with pace of progress, so sat down and made myself a list of what I have to do - one sticky note was not enough :p:
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LOL I am doing exactly the same with those stickies, but my ToDo fits one screen on the laptop :rofl:
I like how the things go here, keep it up :up:

Can't wait for A1 through E12. :D

looks great: simple yet efficient ! ;)

:) Guys.

Oops, realized I forgot a step ... new feets for the case:


http://shazza53.smugmug.com/Computer...69_CRqAJ-M.jpg



Just joshin' - casters are going on the bottom of the cabinet that the drill press will be mounted on. YES, my helper is hard at work (I did not get the right lumber at Home Depot, but he is making do):

http://shazza53.smugmug.com/Computer...53_nboJa-M.jpg

(adds "close blinds in garage before taking photos" to new Sticky Note)

My only question, is your husband as cool as you shaz?=P

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Originally Posted by shazza

hehe ... not this time. Only problem was, I never put the screws for the back casing back in, so the whole innards popped off into my hand - nearly scared me to death.



Whew! Worked all day and virtually got the windows in the side panel done:


http://shazza53.smugmug.com/Computer...17_WuNXm-L.jpg





Would have taken photos of the window cutting process, but watching me clickin' in Photoshop wouldn't be too exciting. (I did say virtually... )

If only I was a skilled photoshopper, I wouldn't have to build this dang thing at all!

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Hey Sharon, haven't been around in a while. However I decided to check and this is what I came across first. Looks terrific :up:

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My only question, is your husband as cool as you shaz?=P

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Oh yeah, we are two cool cats :rofl: I may make him out as a grumpy gus, but he's actually been very helpful with my projects.

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Hey Sharon, haven't been around in a while. However I decided to check and this is what I came across first. Looks terrific :up:

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Thanks, CP - you did note that's a Photoshop of the window done for layout purposes, I hope.


Taking a breather from cutting practice, and working on my fan connections. But first, wanted to double check my math:

Let's say I want to chain all 4 radiator fans to one channel, and I use the Koolance TMS-200 controller: 2A/ 24W per fan channel, with a limitation of 6.5A for the board -

Gentle Typhoon 1450 RPM fans rated @ .049A
--- .049A x 12V = 0.6W per fan
--- 0.6W x 4 daisy-chained fans = 2.4W on one fan channel

This should work, right? What's confusing me is the power ratings on the GTs are so much lower than other fans, just want to make sure I'm not missing something.