Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

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Originally Posted by hlonipha

more testing under water with a 3842A937. why did I wait so long for a WC setup :shrug:

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Try Linx, i have a 3842A and was about 8 hrs stable, but linx crashed it in 10min, i need 1.420v vcore to run stable at 4.2 although for 24/7 i have it at 1.375v at 4.0ghz 100% stable.

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Originally Posted by rge

No the mobo will not shut down the computer if i7 overheats. But the i7 will shut itself down at around 120C, or about 20C over tjmax, if throttling fails to maintain it at 100C from catastrophic cooling failure.

I use realtemp and set my cpu temp at 90C and gpu at 80c, so in case of a pump failure/water cooling failure, realtemp will shutdown the computer. I have tested it many times, works great. You can get latest version in this post:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3443
go to settings, alarm, set to bat file... RTshutdown.bat, then enter any temp for cpu you want. Also if you have nvidia gpu you can enter gpu shutdown temps as well. And just place realtemp in start up folder or use task manager to have it start if using vista or win 7.

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good tip on the shut down in case the pump fails I just set mine.

I Agree, but isnt there an options in bios to reduce both power and multiplier? sure it wont shut off if i think moore :)

good idea actually, im also on water so, failing pump or just something wrong would like me to turn it off, though i leave it on often when im not home.
better put this app to startup or something :) even though its ma min prog, doesnt coretemp shut off too?

cheers.

The MoBo wont shut down the system? Are you sure?

On my R2E I set the temp to 90C. Once my wife had turned the fans off on my radiator while I was gone on a trip, she couldnt figure out why the comp keep shutting off.

The UD5 has similar options in the BIOS for CPU temp.

with the same procedure of the ud4, the mod wok's for transforming an UD5 to a EXTREME!!!!

http://g0rbi.000space.com/index.php?id=11

same procedure but using EXTREME bios!

work good on my board....

NOW
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1979/catturabpo.jpg

Which port is best to connect a bluray drive to, the Gsata or the sata 2 , i only have the sata 2 enabled at the moment, Thanks

Jupp, flashed mu UD5 to Extreeme yesterday to! with F6i bios, works so far.

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Originally Posted by Tommy L

Jupp, flashed mu UD5 to Extreeme yesterday to! with F6i bios, works so far.

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:yepp::welcome:to extreme world....

What is the benefit of the extreme BIOS over the UD5?

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Originally Posted by Aberration

What is the benefit of the extreme BIOS over the UD5?

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Exactly - what's the point?

Mark

just becouse it can be done! and had to try.. must have something to try!

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Originally Posted by Aberration

What is the benefit of the extreme BIOS over the UD5?

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better memory performance with same settings

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Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe

better memory performance with same settings

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Perhaps you would care to elucidate a bit more on that statement - what exactly are you suggesting?

Mark

My only complaint about my UD5 is that it fails to do EIST properly. That is, at Bclk above 139, My vcore voltage does not change
dynamically as designed by Intel (although the multiplier does change). Below 140, EIST works right everytime. Has anyone tested this? Results? I reported this bug to Gigabyte and they told me to load optimized values, then EIST will work. Obviously are they are in denial if they think any end user is going to cripple his board's performance by grossly underclocking it. I've tried many bios, all crap out at exactly 140 Bclk. Anyone get this to work at a normal Bclk value?

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Originally Posted by roller11

My only complaint about my UD5 is that it fails to do EIST properly. That is, at Bclk above 139, My vcore voltage does not change
dynamically as designed by Intel (although the multiplier does change). Below 140, EIST works right everytime. Has anyone tested this? Results? I reported this bug to Gigabyte and they told me to load optimized values, then EIST will work. Obviously are they are in denial if they think any end user is going to cripple his board's performance by grossly underclocking it. I've tried many bios, all crap out at exactly 140 Bclk. Anyone get this to work at a normal Bclk value?

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On the Extreme, CPU voltage throttles down only if it is left on auto in BIOS.
I'm guessing it's the same on the UD5 :shrug:

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Originally Posted by C3D76

On the Extreme, CPU voltage throttles down only if it is left on auto in BIOS.
I'm guessing it's the same on the UD5 :shrug:

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I believe that is correct across the board for all models/series. Never used it myself, but I think that is by design how it functions.

From the limited feedback on here about bios F6E for UD5 it would seem that it is not good, but we have not seen a new bios for UD5 for a while - anybody know what is going on?

I have not tried bios F6E myself as I am reluctant to because it still does not resume from S3 sleep mode, requires higher voltages for same oc, and to cap it off ithas the flash problem as well ie not easy to return to a previous bios.

Come on Gigabyte lets have a decent bios for the UD5 please.

Any comments?

Mark

hy guys, this is my 3836A : http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.p...3&d=1232561232

The pic is from Ianuary 21 2009. I used a CM z600 + 2x120mm Antec TriCool @ High for cooling the CPU. The bios was F5f if I remember well.

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Originally Posted by roller11

My only complaint about my UD5 is that it fails to do EIST properly. That is, at Bclk above 139, My vcore voltage does not change
dynamically as designed by Intel (although the multiplier does change). Below 140, EIST works right everytime. Has anyone tested this? Results? I reported this bug to Gigabyte and they told me to load optimized values, then EIST will work. Obviously are they are in denial if they think any end user is going to cripple his board's performance by grossly underclocking it. I've tried many bios, all crap out at exactly 140 Bclk. Anyone get this to work at a normal Bclk value?

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yes I have the same Eist works till 139 from 140 up it's a no no, sucks:mad:

965 btw

It's not meant to be used with overclocking, plain and simple. 300 posts on this same subject...it's getting old.

I really don't understand this thread. 90% of the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing is about power saving options and how it fails when overclocking. The two together just sounds absurd to me.

If you're conserving energy...is the i7 even a wise choice?

Offcourse it should work, when you don't need the horsepower it should clock back (this works) but because it fails to lower the voltage the fans have to be on higher then necessary

Can you imagine your high end gpu doing this?

no it should work, that's why we buy these highend boards

and I can't flash my bios back, it crashes ... sucks

does Eist work with the extreme bios over 140 blck?

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Originally Posted by annihilus

Offcourse it should work, when you don't need the horsepower it should clock back (this works) but because it fails to lower the voltage the fans have to be on higher then necessary

Can you imagine your high end gpu doing this?

no it should work, that's why we buy these highend boards

and I can't flash my bios back, it crashes ... sucks

does Eist work with the extreme bios over 140 blck?

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Point taken. I've honestly never used it. It's the first thing I disable and have since the E6600. That is the 10000th thing that I would look for in a $450 board. And honestly, I wouldn't care if my GPU's didn't downclock either. It pisses me off actually, and I am positive it affects benchmarking.

There are a few dudes here toting that they have low voltage/high overclocks. The need for power saving options just seems ridiculous looking at this forum and the bigger picture of overclocking.

I also dont really care for idel consumption since my computer is always under 100% cpu load, but load consumption could be a bit lower. 350W 10h a day eat quite some money. :D (~230€ a year) would be worse with 24/7. :D

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Originally Posted by Fafeifa

Try Linx, i have a 3842A and was about 8 hrs stable, but linx crashed it in 10min, i need 1.420v vcore to run stable at 4.2 although for 24/7 i have it at 1.375v at 4.0ghz 100% stable.

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I'm at the same settings as you also with i7 & UD5. My batch is 3841A.

Sorry that I am going to say this but imo an o.c. is worthless if things stop working as they supposed to

I now have an o.c. of 4.123 Mhz this I consider my stable o.c. my 965 can do 4522 easy and maybe more but not with gigacrap if things stop working

If I raise Vcore beyond auto Eist stops working, If I go beyond blck 139 Eist stops working, I am mobo limited

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Originally Posted by annihilus

Offcourse it should work, when you don't need the horsepower it should clock back (this works) but because it fails to lower the voltage the fans have to be on higher then necessary

Can you imagine your high end gpu doing this?

no it should work, that's why we buy these highend boards

and I can't flash my bios back, it crashes ... sucks

does Eist work with the extreme bios over 140 blck?

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You can flash back a few ways from the Qflash Problematic BIOS's. All you need to do is flash from DOS with FlashSPI or AWDFlash and you will be fine. @BIOS also works, but I suggest DOS Based flash if possible.

If you need some more info on how to flash using those methods let me know

My P6T Deluxe V2 mobo motherboard is wacked.. So I'm thinking of switching to either the gigabyte UD5 or X58 Extreme. Which one would you guys recommend?

I though this thread was up to page 107. Maybe I'm in the wrong location.

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Originally Posted by Simfan

I though this thread was up to page 107. Maybe I'm in the wrong location.

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no, but forever what reason the staff applied an old backup, so every thread/post is lost. :p:

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

no, but forever what reason the staff applied an old backup, so every thread/post is lost. :p:

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THX, I thoght I had some sort of a Schizophrenia!!!!

Welcome to last month!

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

no, but forever what reason the staff applied an old backup, so every thread/post is lost. :p:

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Argh!! And I'm just getting here... I can't fire up my UD5 and make sure its not just a pretty paperweight because I'm waiting on a D0 Stepping CPU. (Was an openbox item)

Has Gigabyte released a BIOS specifically optimised for D0 Steppings yet? According to Anandtech's preview/teaser this made all the difference with their chip.

afair all bioses after F6 support D0.

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

afair all bioses after F6 support D0.

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Ah, you are right. I'm still wading through this thread and looked at the BIOS info. F5 introduced D0 support and F6 is supposed to have improved upon it... good to know. Thanks. :)

How hot does the northbridge cooler assembly get on the UD5? I'm sure its mentioned somewhere but I've just not found it yet. Since I'll slap a waterblock onto the CPU I'm looking at what can be rigged up to sufficiently cool everything for some serious overclocking. :)

Can anyone help me?
I'm not able to get the 215MHz Bclk stable. I tried everything...for 210MHz I don't need much QPI/VTT, but after it, it is not possible to run prime! I can hardly Bench with 220MHz but stable is far away!

All cpu... getting over 210 is good IMO.

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Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard

Point taken. I've honestly never used it. It's the first thing I disable and have since the E6600. That is the 10000th thing that I would look for in a $450 board. And honestly, I wouldn't care if my GPU's didn't downclock either. It pisses me off actually, and I am positive it affects benchmarking.

There are a few dudes here toting that they have low voltage/high overclocks. The need for power saving options just seems ridiculous looking at this forum and the bigger picture of overclocking.

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Sorry but i dont agree. I have done DOC overclocking when a prometheia was the best you could get. And i dont whant that kind of power consumption anymore.

Let me explane a bit:

My current i7 920 @ 3.6 GHz @ 1.25v (uncore at 2900 QPI voltage stock.) was using about 330 watt in a full prime load. But then i tried to get to 4000 MHz and a uncore of 3200. I used 1.52v and 1.55 uncore. My power draw then became a stunning 440 watt load. bot only 400 MHz. Thats not worth it in costs. Uncore was doing a 40-45 watt extra the rest was for the CPU cores.

Same with my old X1900 XTX. I lowered the power draw 60 watt full load. and only lost 20 MHz on the core gained about 50 on mem. so the performance was almost the same.

I'm trying to clock for the most optimal performance per watt. I dont need those 400 mhz all the time. its only interesting for benshmarking. And when i do that i will unleash that power. But i have a low power high performance setting for 24/7 usage and folding.

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Originally Posted by Astennu

Sorry but i dont agree. I have done DOC overclocking when a prometheia was the best you could get. And i dont whant that kind of power consumption anymore.

Let me explane a bit:

My current i7 920 @ 3.6 GHz @ 1.25v (uncore at 2900 QPI voltage stock.) was using about 330 watt in a full prime load. But then i tried to get to 4000 MHz and a uncore of 3200. I used 1.52v and 1.55 uncore. My power draw then became a stunning 440 watt load. bot only 400 MHz. Thats not worth it in costs. Uncore was doing a 40-45 watt extra the rest was for the CPU cores.

Same with my old X1900 XTX. I lowered the power draw 60 watt full load. and only lost 20 MHz on the core gained about 50 on mem. so the performance was almost the same.

I'm trying to clock for the most optimal performance per watt. I dont need those 400 mhz all the time. its only interesting for benshmarking. And when i do that i will unleash that power. But i have a low power high performance setting for 24/7 usage and folding.

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well what do you expect, power consumption raises with the power of 2 for a voltage increase. :p:

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Originally Posted by Astennu

Sorry but i dont agree. I have done DOC overclocking when a prometheia was the best you could get. And i dont whant that kind of power consumption anymore.

Let me explane a bit:

My current i7 920 @ 3.6 GHz @ 1.25v (uncore at 2900 QPI voltage stock.) was using about 330 watt in a full prime load. But then i tried to get to 4000 MHz and a uncore of 3200. I used 1.52v and 1.55 uncore. My power draw then became a stunning 440 watt load. bot only 400 MHz. Thats not worth it in costs. Uncore was doing a 40-45 watt extra the rest was for the CPU cores.

Same with my old X1900 XTX. I lowered the power draw 60 watt full load. and only lost 20 MHz on the core gained about 50 on mem. so the performance was almost the same.

I'm trying to clock for the most optimal performance per watt. I dont need those 400 mhz all the time. its only interesting for benshmarking. And when i do that i will unleash that power. But i have a low power high performance setting for 24/7 usage and folding.

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Yeah but 400mhz at the expense of almost an extra .3 on just the vcore is a brutal trade-off to begin with. It would make more sense too me if you ran your system at stock with the power saving options in full swing, then let her loose when benching. IMO, and that is honestly just that...an opinion is that people who need to overclock and have power saving are just typical 'Have my cake and eat it to' types that try to blur the lines between the obvious.

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Originally Posted by Astennu

Sorry but i dont agree. I have done DOC overclocking when a prometheia was the best you could get. And i dont whant that kind of power consumption anymore.

Let me explane a bit:

My current i7 920 @ 3.6 GHz @ 1.25v (uncore at 2900 QPI voltage stock.) was using about 330 watt in a full prime load. But then i tried to get to 4000 MHz and a uncore of 3200. I used 1.52v and 1.55 uncore. My power draw then became a stunning 440 watt load. bot only 400 MHz. Thats not worth it in costs. Uncore was doing a 40-45 watt extra the rest was for the CPU cores.

Same with my old X1900 XTX. I lowered the power draw 60 watt full load. and only lost 20 MHz on the core gained about 50 on mem. so the performance was almost the same.

I'm trying to clock for the most optimal performance per watt. I dont need those 400 mhz all the time. its only interesting for benshmarking. And when i do that i will unleash that power. But i have a low power high performance setting for 24/7 usage and folding.

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1.52v for 4ghz is crazy. I got rid of 6 920's cause I could not get 4.2ghz with less than 1.40v. Sell that cpu quick and get a DO.

Hey guys I'm new to i7 world but have a question...
I've attempted 200bclk/2000Mhz memory OC with an EX58-Extreme F6 BIOS
but failed to get it stable...possibly CPU issue?
I have a C0 and a D0 stepping but both can't run that 2000Mhz memory.
Memory was Kingston HyperX CL8-2000 6G Kit with Elpida ICs.
Memtest shows "Unhandled Exception" then freezed the testing process.
What should I do? vCore @1.375v, vQPI @1.515v vDIMM @1.64v vIOH @1.3v all set @ BIOS, CPU is @ air cooling using CM Hyper N620.

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Originally Posted by ci2kla

Hey guys I'm new to i7 world but have a question...
I've attempted 200bclk/2000Mhz memory OC with an EX58-Extreme F6 BIOS
but failed to get it stable...possibly CPU issue?
I have a C0 and a D0 stepping but both can't run that 2000Mhz memory.
Memory was Kingston HyperX CL8-2000 6G Kit with Elpida ICs.
Memtest shows "Unhandled Exception" then freezed the testing process.
What should I do? vCore @1.375v, vQPI @1.515v vDIMM @1.64v vIOH @1.3v all set @ BIOS, CPU is @ air cooling using CM Hyper N620.

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try F5G and lower that vqpi a bit you are way upthere for 200 bclk.

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Originally Posted by hlonipha

try F5G and lower that vqpi a bit you are way upthere for 200 bclk.

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Thanks for the quick advice. I'll try out F5G and F7C BIOS and report back later~ cheers

Imo, the only power savings option that makes sense to me after playing for a week with kill-watt-meter, from finance point (ignoring any collective green effect from masses) is S3/S4 or turning your computer off when not using it on vacation, etc.

My OCed computer always on costs me $21 per month. Using S3 (for when not in use for 20 mins), it cost $5 per month for the computer (cheap electricity where I live). So I save $16 per month per computer. (In new York you would save $32 per month per such computer). And just takes a few seconds more to come on after hitting spacebar vs putting monitor to sleep.

Adding EIST, C1E, DES, C6/C7 to first scenario saves between 1-2 dollar per month or <50 cents per month if already using S3. If using S3, even saving 50W idle is only going to save you <$1 per month if you use your computer 6 hrs per day (much more important to save idle W then load, unless folding, as average will always be much closer to idle. If not using S3/S4 then will save you $2-$3.

To each his own, but only power savings I am interested in, is powering system down with S3 when not in use.

Mine is off when it's not is use, and when it's off it's pulling the residual power from my UPS's battery. It's doesn't get anymore efficient than that.

Gents,
I've finally been at home enough to finish putting my new rig together--no RMAs thank goodness! Before I start pushing the system and taking advantage of the rest of this thread, I'm trying to set up the basics.

I'm having a tough time understanding the SATA management in BIOS on this board. I'm pretty solid on most other system basics, but my previous experience with multiple SATA headers was limited to a 4 channel add on card on my last rig.

My goal is as follows--
Using BIOS settings, shift between two SATA setups (all drives mentioned below are SATA):
Setup #1
Drive #1 w/ OS#1;
SATA Optical Drive
Setup #2
Drive #2 with OS#2 with an additional storage drive (drive #3, accessible to OS/drive #2)
SATA Optical Drive same drive as Setup #1

I think that there is a way that I should be able to use the ex-58's ports and bios settings to be able to switch between these two setups, but I haven't gotten my arms around it yet. Should I be setting up one OS on the ICH10 and the other on one of the Gigabyte ports? How can I get either ICH10 or the Gigabyte/JMicron to do separate drive-based volumes? How would you guys approach achieving this setup?

Thanks for helping out this SATA novice.... :shrug:
Matt

god i really love it...

F7c -> cant boot with more then 1.335V QPI voltage, everything higher (1.355V) -> oc recover, even with stock cpu settings....

Guys could it be a CPU problem?...
I can't boot up 201 bclk with 2:10 memory multiplier...
but with 2:8 multi it worked just fine.
Tried both F5G and F7C BIOS still no luck. Seems F7C's even worse.
With my D0 CPU seems F5G's not a good choice.
When I try 166 bclk + 2:12 multiplier I can fun 2000Mhz memory without a problem...
Anyone? Please help...:(

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whats your uncore multi?

Stock uncore multi afair is 18x -> and with 200mhz bclck thats 3600mhz. For such a high uncore clock you would need to increase the qpi V and the Ram voltage quite a bit.

Like hornet said likely uncore issue or could be mem issue, with 166bclk and 2:12, memory is 166x12=1992mhz and uncore must be at least 2x mem (or no boot) so 24x166=3984mhz. Trying 201 with 10x multi raises both the mem and uncore, mem is now 2010mhz and minimum uncore is 20x201=4020mhz.

I would try 24x uncore, 168bclk, and 12x mem and if that works then it is a problem with the 10x multi. Some have had issues with particular bioses and certain dividers. If that fails to boot, then like Hornet said you need to raise qpi and ram volts, the extra 20 mhz mem and 40mhz uncore may not sound like much but you are getting up there where a little more uncore matters.

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whats your uncore multi?

Stock uncore multi afair is 18x -> and with 200mhz bclck thats 3600mhz. For such a high uncore clock you would need to increase the qpi V and the Ram voltage quite a bit.

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My uncore was @ 4000Mhz (200x20), 200bclk 2:10 multi.
vQPI: 1.495v tried 1.455v, 1.415v no luck, 1.515v seems get worse

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Like hornet said likely uncore issue or could be mem issue, with 166bclk and 2:12, memory is 166x12=1992mhz and uncore must be at least 2x mem (or no boot) so 24x166=3984mhz. Trying 201 with 10x multi raises both the mem and uncore, mem is now 2010mhz and minimum uncore is 20x201=4020mhz.

I would try 24x uncore, 168bclk, and 12x mem and if that works then it is a problem with the 10x multi. Some have had issues with particular bioses and certain dividers. If that fails to boot, then like Hornet said you need to raise qpi and ram volts, the extra 20 mhz mem and 40mhz uncore may not sound like much but you are getting up there where a little more uncore matters.

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Thanks for the advice. Seems the plan is to sort out if the uncore that matters. However I think I've tried 2:8 divider with 20x uncore multi but it worked without a problem, will try to confirm that later.
I've tried 4400Mhz uncore by accident, with vQPI 1.495v it can boot up but just the response is kinda slow. and of course it's unstable.
UPDATE: I've test the 199 bclk 2:10 divider and it seems worked. Somehow the memtest didn't show up any errors nor any "unhandled exceptions" and passed the first loop of test without a single error. Again waiting to confirm that...:shrug:

ok 168 bclk, 2:12 multi, 24x uncore multi Test passed without errors.
went back to 199 bclk, 20x uncore multi, flower screen of death when testing. Reboot and test again, stucked at test 1. wondering why the result doesn't make any sense...

Hey, found this problem suddenly, didn have it before, but now it has popped up..

this function that enables keyboard in DOS, like a week ago, having it enabled was working good, but lately the comp wont load windows with it enabled.
same bios as before also, but have tried others, and then allways coming back to F5G.

Anyway, when it starts to load, the logo shows, and it is about to initiate the mouse and keyboard, they first gets shutdown from DOS mode or something, then it will initiate them again, but now they only blink 1s, and dies, and it wont work unless i disable this in bios.

what could have happened?

I got myself a new i7 920. 3841A. One that can do 4.2 GHz HT (handpicked) (UD5 @ F6 bios)

But somehow it wont on my board :S. i'm now running 3933 MHz 1.35v in bios so its 1.25v load. And my core temp is 81c max for the worst core and 77 for the best. I think this is way to high. I got a mugen 2000 cooler. The heatsink is only 43c at full load. (mesured the lowest point of the cooler. Could not get closer to the cpu.)

I used multiple tools: Hardwaremonitor, Coretemp and Real temp all the same high values. I already remounted the cooler but the contact seems to be fine.

Anyone that has some tips / things i can check ? i realy want to get 4.2 GHz at 1.4v But it seems that not possible on this board. (the other person had a Asus)

But it also could be the fact that i'm running Vista X64. I wil try Win XP 32 tonight to see if its more stable then.

Out of curiosity, was the other person that had it at 4.2 HT using water or air? Changing your OS is not going to get you there. If you are at 1.25Vload and those temps...enabling LLC and getting a better cooler either water, or a true (or equivalent) with 2 jet engine fans plus dropping your ambients by 10+C might. Also, CPUZ just reads the mobo sensors, and each mobo is going to have slightly different voltages, so 1.42 on one board might be same voltage as 1.41 on another, even if the same board/brand. I think the ASUS has tighter LLC as well, so it might be closer to 1.4 bios and 1.4 load vs gig 1.43 bios equals 1.4 load, which simply means you may have to use 1.43bios on gig board for the equivalent of 1.4bios on Asus, plus any board to board variance. But your current cooling/ambients are going to need to improve first.

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Out of curiosity, was the other person that had it at 4.2 HT using water or air? Changing your OS is not going to get you there. If you are at 1.25Vload and those temps...enabling LLC and getting a better cooler either water, or a true (or equivalent) with 2 jet engine fans plus dropping your ambients by 10+C might. Also, CPUZ just reads the mobo sensors, and each mobo is going to have slightly different voltages, so 1.42 on one board might be same voltage as 1.41 on another, even if the same board/brand. I think the ASUS has tighter LLC as well, so it might be closer to 1.4 bios and 1.4 load vs gig 1.43 bios equals 1.4 load, which simply means you may have to use 1.43bios on gig board for the equivalent of 1.4bios on Asus, plus any board to board variance. But your current cooling/ambients are going to need to improve first.

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He was using a Thermalright True Cooler. My Mugen 2000 should be able to get similar results. He was only hitting 65c load. But i believe that was a non HT test on 4.0 for 100% stability testing. I will try to get those numbers tonight.

What are you guy's getting on good air cooling ?

And something else. That Turbo boost in the bios. Is that only boosting core 1 to the 21x multi ? of are all cores on the GA UD5 boosted to 21x ?

turbo is all cores, not just 1. All active cores will be at the same speed.

You may drop 8-10C for HT off, and other person may have been in a cool basement, ie 5-10C lower ambients, etc...I would try to find out ambients as well. But if chip needs 1.4 for 4.2 with HT, air will be a challenge.

Yeah it seems but i had the idea that i should be getting lower temp's. I see people bensh 4.2+ on air. (with prime and stuff) so it should be possible.

Does anyone have luck on running 200bclk with 2000Mhz DDR3 Memory on this board?:confused:

Does anyone run Bclk mor than 222MHz?
If yes, how?

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Does anyone run Bclk mor than 222MHz?
If yes, how?

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More PCIE frequency if your cards can handle it.

Did you try this?
How much did you give your PCIe Freq?

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Did you try this?
How much did you give your PCIe Freq?

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My cards do not like higher PCIE freq. But I know for a fact, that PCIE freq. is what causes the 222 bclck wall.

Try it.

I tried to do this, but with Bclk 224 and 105MHz PCIe, there was no chance to boot!
222 Bclk no problem, but 224...f...

Let me know...you're from canada...why are you awake? What time is it in Toronto?

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Let me know...you're from canada...why are you awake? What time is it in Toronto?

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It's 1:42 PM man. My time zone is 5 hours behind London so I'm guessing it's around 8pm where you are?

You need around 105-110 to get into the 230 bclck range it seems.

What if my cards do not like higher PCIE freq.
Will them be damaged?

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What if my cards do not like higher PCIE freq.
Will them be damaged?

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As long as you're not increasing the PCIE voltage than the failure will just result in a bad post, possibly a cmos reset and there is always the risk of scrambling your HDD's when adjusting bus speeds.

If you have more than one card, I would pull one out and test PCIE freq. Much less stress.

I have one 4870X2...

Very cool!!!
The 215MHz are running right now.
http://www.abload.de/thumb/4500vmys.jpg

The Vcore is not adjusted right now, it will probably go a little lower!

Wow! very nice emertX. My C0 can barely do 4ghz with that vcore. D0 for the win! :up:

Guys, how can you change PCI-E freq on this mobos? All my tries end up with no boot and BF debug code. Tried every good bios from F4j to F7c. Is there a special dark ritual or something to make even 101 Mhz PCI-E possible? :)

Try another slot on your board for your card!

I got my hands on a D0 stepping. I hope that one will do better than my current i7 :(

Anybody here who has heard something new about any new BIOS-Files?

Does anyone know if this board will support the Xeon W3520 CPU?

Leathal

Me!
Look into my signature!

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Anybody here who has heard something new about any new BIOS-Files?

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F7 betas are out now (for extreme and ud5), same place as before.

Have not tried it out yet though.

Question:
Anyone else having the problem that at exactly 201 bclk turbo gets disabled (f6 bios, 920 D0)?
At 200 it stays on even if I force the temperatures up with crazy voltages, but at 201 no matter the cpu temps turbo is gone.

I created a tool a while ago and in my opinion it is the most accurate way to monitor your CPU multiplier. It reads high performance timers within your CPU and is the Intel recommended way to monitor your multi on Core i7.

If you are having trouble with Turbo mode staying locked in, can you try this tool and see if it gives you any new information? In theory it might be able to tell you sooner if there is a problem compared to any other tools that are presently available.

I posted about it over here and I'm just looking for some feedback. Thanks.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=918

I've had it, this more than I can stand!

I've changed the motherboard twice (EX58-extreme),PSU and graphics card and still have this problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdolaz3I_xE
It happens randomly when I turn off the computer and then try to turn it on!
It won't boot at all unless I unplug PSU out of power outlet!!!

This is my 2nd Mobo and still I suffer, I tried one stick of RAM (I have 3x2GB OCZ 1600MHz DDR3 intel Extreme edition) and still no go!

I've been building PCs since God knows when, and I've never had so much troubles with a product like this motherboard!!!

Can any one please help me !!!

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I've had it, this more than I can stand!

I've changed the motherboard twice (EX58-extreme),PSU and graphics card and still have this problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdolaz3I_xE
It happens randomly when I turn off the computer and then try to turn it on!
It won't boot at all unless I unplug PSU out of power outlet!!!

This is my 2nd Mobo and still I suffer, I tried one stick of RAM (I have 3x2GB OCZ 1600MHz DDR3 intel Extreme edition) and still no go!

I've been building PCs since God knows when, and I've never had so much troubles with a product like this motherboard!!!

Can any one please help me !!!

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When pushing comes to shoving, sell it...get a different brand of board. Certain users just have better luck with certain brands...it's a mystery.

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I've had it, this more than I can stand!

I've changed the motherboard twice (EX58-extreme),PSU and graphics card and still have this problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdolaz3I_xE
It happens randomly when I turn off the computer and then try to turn it on!
It won't boot at all unless I unplug PSU out of power outlet!!!

This is my 2nd Mobo and still I suffer, I tried one stick of RAM (I have 3x2GB OCZ 1600MHz DDR3 intel Extreme edition) and still no go!

I've been building PCs since God knows when, and I've never had so much troubles with a product like this motherboard!!!

Can any one please help me !!!

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You're positive that is not a grounding issue? Sounds like it too me.

Pull it out of the case, set it on a box (the boards box works fine) and fire it up outside of the case. If you can, try using a different mouse and keyboard as well.

The Case had in it an X38 mobo before thi one and it worked fine!

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I created a tool a while ago and in my opinion it is the most accurate way to monitor your CPU multiplier. It reads high performance timers within your CPU and is the Intel recommended way to monitor your multi on Core i7.

If you are having trouble with Turbo mode staying locked in, can you try this tool and see if it gives you any new information? In theory it might be able to tell you sooner if there is a problem compared to any other tools that are presently available.

I posted about it over here and I'm just looking for some feedback. Thanks.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=918

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I tried it, but it tells me the same as the other tools, turbo works fine at 200 bclk, at 201+ it does not.
Screenies:

http://i44.tinypic.com/23ha8tc.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/qyy4c5.jpg

Doesn't matter if I set it to 201+ in bios or easytune, result is the same.

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The Case had in it an X38 mobo before thi one and it worked fine!

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that proves/disproves nothing. If you want to troubleshoot properly...listen to what I'm saying. :rolleyes:

naokaji: Thanks for testing that out. I think on some boards it's possible to have the multi rapidly kicking in and out and maybe not being detected by some software. On your board it's pretty clear that a bclk of 201 is game over. The temps aren't a problem so it looks like a bios issue.

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Me!
Look into my signature!

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is the QPI multi locked with the W3520?, what about the memory? thanks.

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I've had it, this more than I can stand!

I've changed the motherboard twice (EX58-extreme),PSU and graphics card and still have this problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdolaz3I_xE
It happens randomly when I turn off the computer and then try to turn it on!
It won't boot at all unless I unplug PSU out of power outlet!!!

This is my 2nd Mobo and still I suffer, I tried one stick of RAM (I have 3x2GB OCZ 1600MHz DDR3 intel Extreme edition) and still no go!

I've been building PCs since God knows when, and I've never had so much troubles with a product like this motherboard!!!

Can any one please help me !!!

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are you using thermaltake psu?

@ naokaji

What BIOS are you using? You should not be having that issue, are you setting enough QPI Voltage? Not that it should matter, just wondering.

I would also be sure you are using the latest Easytune, and BIOS of course.

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Sorry, you are correct this is a issue for sure. I posted a reply to you here as well >>
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=66

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are you using thermaltake psu?

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Yes I'm currently using thermaltake tough power 1500 watt.

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are you using thermaltake psu?

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Got me curious now - having an problem with one of my i7 rigs and a TT1500

What is the issue with these??

Hi everybody=)
I hope this is the right place to ask, i finaly got my ass over to I7 and have orderd a Gigabyte UD4P and 920 D0.
But is Gigabyte X58 Extreme much better or does the UD4P do the job?
Thanks for all advices;)

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Got me curious now - having an problem with one of my i7 rigs and a TT1500

What is the issue with these??

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I replaced the Mobo twice, and switched a TT 1200w with a TT 1500w...same result!

Quick question for any UD4P owners possibly reading this. Which BIOS have you found to be better for D0 chips, F7 or F8a?

Where did you find the f8a?

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I replaced the Mobo twice, and switched a TT 1200w with a TT 1500w...same result!

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Maybe it's the TT PSU's period that the board doesn't like. It wouldn't be unheard of.

Isnt the first time a mobo dont like a psu, remember some of the Dfi-mobos:P

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Where did you find the f8a?

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Over @ tweaktown, http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...58UD4P.F8a.zip

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@ naokaji

What BIOS are you using? You should not be having that issue, are you setting enough QPI Voltage? Not that it should matter, just wondering.

I would also be sure you are using the latest Easytune, and BIOS of course.

*EDIT*

Sorry, you are correct this is a issue for sure. I posted a reply to you here as well >>
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=66

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I'm using F6 bios as F7 gives me some issues (some options in bios simply don't work and force me to reboot).

QPI is at 1.36V, QPI VTT is at 1.3.

About the resume stuff, it works on gigabyte boards, it was just a idea of me that some might want to try the workaround on non gigabyte boards.

Several issues need to be solved for GA-EX58-Extreme F7C BIOS.
One of the changes seen is The memory settings from 'manual' to 'quick' and 'expert'

1. If you press the power button to force to power off your computer it will turn off but then turn on again within a few seconds. Even in BIOS. Therefore you can't turn off by pushing the Power button...Sometimes that's annoying when you're trying to switch some memory slots :shrug:

2. Disabling HT will result in no POST.