Let's not make this thread about PhII vs i7 now shall we. As long as the tests are done with the same testbed/specs there's really no need to criticise (spelling?) the review/tests.
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Let's not make this thread about PhII vs i7 now shall we. As long as the tests are done with the same testbed/specs there's really no need to criticise (spelling?) the review/tests.
Yes,but a platform designed just for this gpu will perform better.:CTF:
crysis should get killed as a benchmark game. thats enough. this game loves geforce, i thought you know that.
i say we need new games (coded better)
you talking about that AMD option that turns off all useless apps for gaming? Cause thats the only thing I've seen AMD side that will do anything for its GPUs. Even with that I'm not convinced you wouldn't see better performance over an i7 rig. My next rig is most likely a AMD Quad but I'm not going to be in any kinda denial over the hardware it all does what it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell Hound
Quit the OT discussion. This is not a PII vs. i7 discussion thread. :shakes:
Same.... if this is on the 55nm GT process.... :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
UGH, I have a feeling that the GTX 275 would demolish the 4890, since a 633MHz core with 240 shaders is even faster than 65nm GTX 280 at only 600MHz. The memory shouldnt hold it back much at all, since 448-bit gives the same bandwidth as GDDR5 and 896MB is so close to 1GB. I do not think the 4890 would be able to touch either GTX 275 or 280.
ATI better have a surprise up its sleeve, or Nvidia is gonna wipe the floor with the 4890 attached to its mop.
Bo Fox, making predictions as harsh as that before the card is even released is what sends people down the wrong path towards fanboyhood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo_Fox
Please refrain from making judgements/conclusions until April 6th. This is ATI we're talking about. If the performance is not satisfactory, the price certainly will be.
Lastly, we are overclockers. If you wish to make judgements on stock clocks, go right ahead.
Perkam
LOL.. you're sounding like an ATI fanboi right now, big time! :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Just kidding with ya. I'm just saying that ATI better have a surprise. Like being able to overclock to 1GHz, or actually having 960 shaders/ 48 TMU's at 850MHz. But as you can see, there's already sightings of the 4890 in Hong Kong and Taiwan. We all know that a 4870 overclocked to 850MHz still cannot get anywhere near the GTX 280 (remember, Nvidia cards can also be overclocked).
GTX 275 isn't going to be any supercard, its just a cheaper way for Nvidia to replace GTX 280 with a similarly performing card. I'm guessing once the reviews are done 275 will either be on par or slightly faster then the old GTX 280.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo_Fox
pft drama boy :ROTF: wipe floor with gtx 275 haha and how much it will cost to nvidia to price that kinda product same with 4890 ? how it will effect gtx 285 gtx 260 and gtx 280s sales since it will probably faster according to you from both gtx 260 and gtx 280 so that means very close to gtx 285 :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo_Fox
but let's be honest: if the current facts are true, the 4890 is really only an "overclocked 4870". we already saw 4870s oc'ed to these specs and it's nothing breath taking. i really ask myself how ati wants to get anywhere near the 280/285gtx with that.
on the other hand i can't believe that ati just clocked the gpu and ram a bit higher (plus some "tweaks", whatever that means...) and releases that as a brand new 4890. i do hope there's more to it than that.
According to Beyond3D forums, the die size is slightly larger (based on screenshot compares), which would explain the small IPC increase.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaZz!
Both ATI and NVIDIA have a history of doing this. I really don't see the problem with it, as long as it's a substantial clock boost. Remember the Ultra and Platinum editions?Quote:
on the other hand i can't believe that ati just clocked the gpu and ram a bit higher (plus some "tweaks", whatever that means...) and releases that as a brand new 4890. i do hope there's more to it than that.
Fixed. Facts are always true.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaZz!
It won't demolish anything if the 4890 is cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo_Fox
Oh yeah, 900 mb is close to 1 gb. 10% close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo_Fox
Why's that? ATI themselves said that was going to be their strategy for HD4800. A HD4890X2 most likely will be released unless ATI runs into som "unexpected issues".Quote:
Originally Posted by ownage
And I really hope its more then just a clock increase, hopefully "RV790" has a better IPC aswell.
Well, I've modded this section long enough to know what does and what does not sound like a fanboy, but I will tell you what I've been telling everyone else for 3 weeks now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo_Fox
Wait for April 6th.
Perkam
Yep, and 1GB is 100% greater than 512MB.. go figure.. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by cegras
a 4890X2 may not be worth it at this point, they may not release one simply for the fact that the r8xx would come soon enough after to make any 4890X2 production line moot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartidiot89
Bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vienna
But as someone said earlier, Sapphire may make one themselves. Or, if ATI want's to ensure that IF there are any delays with R800, they will be covered; if so, then they will release one.
What you all think of this card?
MSI R4870-MD1G Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2r4870-md1g%22
Wrong thread m8. Ask that question in the Video Card section in the General Hardware section.Quote:
Originally Posted by ranosb
Perkam
RV790/RV740 update
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8980.htmlQuote:
RV790, or RV740, are the chips most people are waiting to appear. RV740 has already been previewed and it was made quite clear that it is more than a worthy replacement for the Radeon HD 4830. Even though it was just the slower Radeon HD 4750, and not the faster Radeon HD 4770, we're pretty sure Radeon HD 4830 won't be missed by many. RV790 on the other hand has been widely discussed and since it bears a new name it has also been suggested that it has additional computing power in the form of more shaders and texture units.
Recent benchmarks suggest otherwise though. While the tests do show that the card is 13-20% faster than the current single-GPU flagship, Radeon HD 4870, with only 13% clock increase (750 to 850MHz). This isn't really enough to back up the claims of additional shaders, but instead it has been suggested by sources that the AMD decided to rename the core just because it has been fixed.
Fixed in terms of erratas and better yields, which in turn should make it just a tiny bit faster than RV770, but in theory an even better overclocker and fun card to play with. And then we should not forget that this is just the normal version and that there will be an even faster version at the end of the month. So in summary, RV790 doesn't seem to be very new, but instead a fixed and improved RV770.
If this is true it's a big dissapointment.Reminds me of the phenom hype.Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
Not even close...Quote:
Originally Posted by purefun65