why is the reason gigabyte still using the 1 10 llc has it proven better than the ll1 and llc2 , and if so when and how ? maybe tomorrow ill try new bios out
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2271MHz 7-10-7-27 @ 1.68v vdimm; 1.1v vtt
http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/q...0K/1065x51.jpg
I've big problems getting my UD7 B3/i7 2600k OC stable. I boot at x50 (no problem) but when I put some load on it (latest version of LinX) my Vcore drops from 1.53 to 1.45V, NOTICE that this is with LLC enable and at level 7. It dosent mather which frequency/LLC level it is, it still happends.
But with stock settings (optimized default) the vcore is deadly stable... Guess I'm missing something?
I'm monitoring with the latest version of EasyTune6 (HW monitor).
System specification:
i7 2600k
UD7 B3
A-DATA XPG+ 1866MHz CL8
Crucial C300 64GB
MSI N480GTX Lightning
Be-Quiet P8 1200w
You guys should ask Gigabyte to improve the OLD LLC1 and put back the OLD LLC2. It's FAR More reliable than the multi step LLC. Multi step is erratic and has weird spikes once you go past level 6. Level 5 is WORSE than the old LLC1 at higher vcores, but at lower vcores, level 5 has less droop at idle or in BIOS (like around 1.25v). Level 6 is closest to the old LLC1, but this only applies to higher voltages...at 1.25v, LLC6 is better than the old LLC1, at 1.45v its slightly worse (some spikes at idle to HIGHER than BIOS setting, load drops about the same). The old LLC2 is predictable and the best; idle voltage is always about 0.015v higher than what you set in the BIOS, and load is about 0.015v higher than idle...while not perfect like having same voltage idle->load without spikes, at least the old LLC2 is predictable and you know what you're getting. The new LLC7+ is bad...the voltage spikes high at light load, then drops back to what the idle voltage was at full load...
The old LLC2 keeps the bios ->idle->load vcore formula across almost all voltages, unlike LLC1, so it IS possible for GB to improve the old LLC1....multi step version is trash....you guys with contact with GB should ask them to fix the old LLC1 and keep old LLC2....
Only problem with old LLC2 is avoiding idle 0x124 BSOD, so you'll need a little more vcore than what you would normally need for full load.
Thank you!
IDK why Gigabyte went with 10 LLC's, maybe to try and match Asus? If I had wanted an Asus board I would have bought one. I think they should stick with what has worked for them, fix the issues that have been going on from the beginning, and do a lot more testing before making anymore major changes. Things normally get better with updates, not worse. This is assbackwards.
dude you should get the number 1 sticky for this site if it had one . . . you said everything i couldn't say in technical terms ,
" MAIN POINT GIGABYTE YOU AIN'T TESTING AND WE ARE" CAUSE IT SEEMS LATELY WHAT WE ARE SAYING ISN'T RELEVANT TO YOU
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You guys should ask Gigabyte to improve the OLD LLC1 and put back the OLD LLC2. It's FAR More reliable than the multi step LLC
Passed 32m at 108.5 bclk. Despite my whining about the board it does pretty good. Timings arent good but I tried for long time with 9 11 9 and half way through it gave error "no exact rounding".
Once we can read this board, it will deliver...Just need some patience, reboot C1 two times and another reboot after ram initialized then good to go with bios oc settings:D...
F4 - 1.54Vcore LLC10
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/133...nshot018oh.jpg
some good stuff here
:up:
Vantage cpu test
F4 - 1.54Vcore LLC10 bios = 1.596~1.62Vcore in windows
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/6...nshot021ec.jpg
Which cooling are you using?
SS
Nope:D
Complete Vantage run, CF next..
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/884...nshot023sk.jpg
:D still looking for such a beast :cool:
its just a treat from the modders, i doubt gb woudl stop BIOS production for teh P67A
Whats the benifits of the Z68 BIOS?
i think so they can use the touch BIOS, idk nothing other than that for the UD7.
The UD3H has PWM controll, which controls the PWm frequency, but its maxed out already on the UD7.
Ok cheers thanks for the info. I'll just stick with F4.
By the way Sin, have you heard anything from Gigabyte regarding the Turbo Boost problem? (Not ramping up when only using 1 thread?)
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I also got a nice new 24/7 stable overclock as well using Dynamic VID which i've never tried before.
1.335v under normal usage
1.272 when under full load
0.996v while at Idle.
Full Load:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1...7757/temps.jpg
Idle:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e7757/Idle.jpg
So far so good, but time will tell i suppose :)
I'm going to try dvid just for fun on my pretty heavily degraded 2600k simply because I can and it's free. Besides I just bought 3 more tubes of MX4 (freaking mwave said they had the 20 gram one there for $17 but it wasn't there when I went, so I bought three 4 grams for $18 and she waived the $5 will call charge since I was a walk-in anyway), plus I was able to reverse "part" of the degradation on my better 2600k at 5 ghz by raising PLL voltage to 1.86v (no more idle BSOD in Bad company 2 at 1.410v bios LLC2 1.428v idle). So I need something new to do....
Intel Management Engine Interface(MEI) Driver 7.1.13.1088
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20078/eng/...7.1.13.1088.exe
got an installations error
i did so the same thing
some drivers cant be installed installation abort
i got these message
my board is an p8p67 ws revo
latest intel inf and rst driver installed
I get 1.260v under full load on my 2600k at 4.5 ghz. I agree that's a good vcore.. 1.335v is high for idle, though, with LLC1 without offsets I get 1.284v idle. You should be able to get an idle lower than 1.335 easily...try using LLC1 (LLC enabled if its only disabled or enabled). That should significantly lower your idle voltage with dvid.
After going away I returned and gave another go at my OC. I have come to the conclusion that the CPU has degraded. I was able to do X52 @ 1.50 but now just to get in to Windows with x50 I need in excess of 1.55+.:shakes:
At first I was thinking it was the motherboard or BIOS and I'm still contemplating this as I was able to do x52 with no problems on an ASUS board before switching to the UD7. If I had another mobo on hand I would give the chip a shot in that but I don't so RMA to Intel.:mad:
Time to go back to ol'reliable X58 until I get another chip.;)
I have heard that as well and in this case I surely did see but for the drastic difference in vcore needed between the two I'm leaning more towards the chip.
We'll have to see when I get another chip. If I had another board accessible I would see how the chip performs but unfortunately I don't at this time.
hey guys I need some help?
there is sone a lokal (:p:sorry) OC compo that i want to win. There are 4 cattagories super pi 1m, 32m, wprime and cinebench 10.5. Only rules; multiplier has to be on 40x and mem divider on 8x. The rest is up to user to get an as fast as possible time through tweaking the memmory timings and BCLK. So far my cpu does 107bclk. But my Vengeance memory sucks and can't make me win the compo. So i need the fastest memory timings @ 1600mhz that are out there, for around 200$.
should i change the club name to P67/Z68-UD7 club? might as well get the new guys in here to as teh boards are identical.
Yeah, go for it. The boards are similar enough. Let's keep all in one place.
hypers are the chips inside
like these
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=271294
sorry but the link dosent let me through. Though, maybe i go with RipjawX 2133 @ 7-10-7-27. But i'm not the only one with this memory then. So if some one know anything better than the ripjaws, please let me know?
Yes it comes on to 3 things bclk, memmory latency's and tweaking. But i am quit a noob on Super pi actualy:p:. So any help is welcome. I've already got a new HDD and i think XP 64bit will be the best choice? than i need to figger out how and what to tweak. So if someone knows a super special tweak that isn't easaly to find with the google, please tell me?
Any1 know something about the 6 years extended warranty offered from GIGABYTE Germany for the P67/Z68 UD7/5/4 boards? What about the other regions?
Google Translate of the registration form:
Quote:
According to the following warranty provisions
I sign my GIGABYTE motherboard for the extended
Warranty of 72 months (six years).
A copy of the original sales receipt I add the form.
I agree that the information given by me
by the company G.B.T. Technology Trading GmbH (GIGABYTE
Germany) for the purpose of ensuring the guarantee
be saved. GIGABYTE Germany agrees to
to treat the data according to the Privacy Policy
without prior consent to third parties.
G.B.T. Technology Trading GmbH I may in future information
e.g. Newsletter sent ? Yes ? No.
First name, last name:
Street Address:
Postal code, City:
Country:
Email:
Serial number:
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Dealer:
Please send the completed form and the
Receipt by fax +49-40-25 33 04 45 or
EMAIL premiumservice@gigabyte.de
Only boards sold in DE market can apply 6 yrs.
he thanks man.
I've bin surtsing quit a bit the last few day's and i found these second hand Dominator GT's (Corsair Dominator GT TR3X6G1866C7GTF). Are these the fameous elpidia hyper IC's and wil these work with my p67-UD7? Also the seller thought they would do 556-12 @1600mhz
anyways I couldn't change the title, i have the Z68X-UD7 and a UD3H, maybe ill just make a general Z68 GB club?
UD7 down! UD7 down!
Thats number two i done killed some how.
wow you are just a murder considering most people haven't even killed one lol.
Which PSU Cowie ? We have lost x CPUs on UD5 and we got no clue why or how as the same setup worked perfectly at my place and at PJ's . Only difference is the PSU ( he has an OCZ X stream 1000W ), board refuses to post, red leds and the CPU is dead then...
haha whats he doing running prime95. for 48 hours at 5.8ghz and 1.6v? LOL
he he i have a knack for finding weakness in a mb
1200w pcp&c psu which works fine and i dont use a case
pins are ok not burnt only 1.64v real, it did die when on dice thuo ...other chip same results
i have another one coming early next week,this way i can have 1 for not benching too.
don't think you are pushing +106 bclocks, 5.7Ghz and 2240CL7-7 rams during hours... it's strong board no problem with that and very good for 01 benching, but I prefer UD5 as it's far better bang for the buck...
leeg u r and assus lova what are you doing with a nice giga board :D
I have 3 here UD5/7 and UD3H. I love Gamers UD5 and PJ's Z68 UD3H (both very very good bang for the buck and solid solutions)
I even might give them an award ( if ever Dino accepts me on his facebook page :p ) Sadly there's no hyper love on the UD3H (but I can live with that)
Oh and I have to correct you on your quote :
http://www.shrani.si/f/2I/n2/129CWJXH/aaaaaa.png
:cheer2:
Next step XP :D
57Ũ boot :clap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzlPrUJml-Y
that is a nice CPU, i need one of em
maybe you should try the Asus on this go around, they really did a good job this time:D
The R3E left a bad taste in mouth as well, unlike any of the Giga X58 boards ( UD3R, UD5, UD7), however Asus got their shi(f)t together for P67/Z68 (except for 01) and has very nice board. I do think that the bios on the UD7 is better for hyper based memory the the MIVE. The main thing I dislike about the UD7 is the llc is completely botched, I mean ten levels and still nothing works as it should:shrug:
Regardless I may pull it out of the box once I get some more cpu's, but as it sits it's just collecting dust, because it kills it in 01:up:
Passed 5651Mhz....Next, if it passed 5705Mhz then it is 57X or more:up:Quote:
Next step XP :D
57Ũ boot :clap:
1.54Vcore bios and LLC10 boot up to windows all the time:D
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/141...enshot035h.jpg
Nice chip Dumo , and especialy you got working with that 1 10 llc. :)
about vrm frequency, someone has try to set it?
how many volt can u get out with a correct vrm frequency?
Probly need more cold to open up:)
Thanks OC:up:
Yep, LLC10 work nicely @ >5.7ish:)
Thanks Sergio:)
Got this cold bugged L047XXXX chip max @ 5140Mhz. Bios 1.375Vcore LLC7. Linx tortured my SS instead of the chip:D...
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5...enshot037l.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4...nshot039hs.jpg
@ Dumo
sick cpu bud:woot:
you are torturing your ss, almost 15c:D
I see everybody is using 4gb ram. Anybody using 16gb that could give me some pointers? I have the Mushkin Enhanced Redline (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) 1.65v
Just got my board and chip friday so i am still learning this z68 (coming from x58).The mem was running fine using profile1 which sets it at 2133 1.65v 9-10-9-25 cr2. i backed it down to 1866 for now so i could concentrate on finding my max 24/7 cpu settings, then i'll come back for the memory. What voltages should i be playing with on this board for the cpu? (z68x ud7) Anybody using touch bios? Also what is dangerous as far as temp and cpu voltage for 24/7 use? If somebody knows of a good OC guide for the z68, that would help a lot too. not sure what cpu settings should be enabled and disabled. Disable c1e, c3/c6, EIST, Thermal Monitor, Bi Directional PROCHOT? TIA for the help. I really appreciate it.