Initital testing with 8x425=3.4Ghz , Custom FFT 1024 size pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Small FFT pass.
Linx Pass few cycles. (stopped it to write the update)
will do the above this afternoon. Tks
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Initital testing with 8x425=3.4Ghz , Custom FFT 1024 size pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Small FFT pass.
Linx Pass few cycles. (stopped it to write the update)
will do the above this afternoon. Tks
You didn't read my post. High CPU speed and high Memory speed will never be stable. Not with BIOS 0803 and BIOS 0902 or any previous released BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikefra2008
You have to be happy with the your stable clocks that you have right now with BIOS 0803.;)
Yeah, I've got a feeling that BIOS 0902 screws up more than just a previous stable OverClock.Quote:
Originally Posted by neo_rtr
Well.. been reading all these (lot of) posts for the last week, to learn something with you guys, and I did ;)
I also flashed the bios to 0902, clear CMOS, end re-entered all the settings I had with bios 0803 (because loading saved profiles is not recommended), and everything is stable, just as it was with bios 0803.
My OC:
E8600 @ 4,4ghz 1.4v (not a good cpu from what I see in forums)
OCZ 2x2GB @ 1100 - 5-5-5-15 - 1:1 - PL9 - Moderate - DRAM Static Enabled
NB 1,49v
Does anyone know what enchanced in 3th and 4th SATA ports description mean?
Did you test it with IntelBurnTest or LinX?Quote:
Originally Posted by SirDaemon
If so can you post a screen shot with at least 20 passes stable?
I've been wondering about that myself. Asked OCN about it a while ago and nobody knew the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuebk
I've got my stable clocks back :yepp: with BIOS 0803 with the same settings that I used before flashing it to BIOS 0902.:D
What am i supposed to do with my 500 gig WD HDD randomly disappearing ? I am sure it happened right after the 0902 BIOS flash, but no amount flashing back and forth is solving it.The CMOS Clock is also getting reset randomly....Time to replace the CMOS battery with a fresh one?
PS: When the HDD does get detected, its as good as anything - tested thoroughly in Windows and no bad sectors, nothing.Good speeds too....
Yo guys,
does anybody have a link für downloading a sounddriver. I had to deinstall mine.
Should it be a problem that I am having a converted RF?
If you think that BIOS 0902 is causing this why don't you just flash it back to BIOS 0803?Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBull1985
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-usQuote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
In the left corner you see the download search engine. Just put in your boards name.
Thank you for the link. But the latest sounddriver (SoundMAX 1988B_Audio_V610016280_zip) causes an application hang by starting vista.
http://www.abload.de/img/aead-filtersxl7e.jpg
I had to test the 0902 and so far it looks good for me.
I did run LinX 30 loop with the following
E8600 500 4,25GHz / 4x1 Kingston HyperX PC9600@1200MHz 5-5-5-15 tRD 7 Strong / DRAM Static disabled.
Time and GFlops are close so it means that itīs stable enough.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...RD7StrongS.jpg
Seems to be stable. It's probably only a problem with Quads. They put more strain on the NB.
They might have changed something in the BIOS for those new CPU's that our Quads don't like.
Is that the version for the Maximus from the ASUS download page?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Youīre probably right, maybe i gonna put in my Q9650 and run it with my 4x1 Kingston and see if it works, what do you say, A-Grey, should I?
If it's no problem for you to switch CPU's it would be nice to see if you get it stable with your Q9650 at 8 X 465MHz and DDR 1117MHz with tRD 7, AI Clock Twister Moderate and DRAM Static Read Enabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostleader
@Alien Grey,
it is the latest version for the Rampage Formula.
Am I supposed to chose the one for the Maximus Formula because my board is converted?
Edit: I just compared the formula and the maximus driver. They are all the same version number 6280. They seem to be crap! I think the sounddriver doesnīt like the Service Pack 2 for Vista. What can I do?
@Gostleader,
many friends of mine told me before I bought this board, just never ever try to run a quad, you need a very high nb voltage and still you can not be sure that your system runs stable.
This topic has fed up time already for segir speaking things of noob
A-GREY you have fed up there swindles already for segir with the fsb strap 400 which(who) is bad
Ghostleather already deberias another oc tries if 4.2ghz it he is very easily it to stabilize with fsb strap 333 6:5
plizz is this forum good or not?
Guys i have the need to share my pain with you...:( i just discovered that one of my memory sticks is baaad:mad: Thats why i couldnt pass memtest or prime95blend, etc. I think that this bad stick stops me from doing 500fsb also. Im starting en rma proccess tonight. Wish me luck:)
There is a new version that mikeyakame posted here in the thread. You can find his post here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1572Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
Put your Corsairs back and run some tests with BIOS 0902 to see if you can run it stable at 8 X 465MHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
I would really like to know what the hell is going on with my system and that BIOS.
oc E8600
585x 8,5 5ghz divisor 1:1 1170mhz perfomance 8
556x9 5ghz divisor 1:1 1112mhz perfomance 8
600x 8 4,8ghz divisor 1:1 1200mhz 3dmark03 perfomance 8
570 x 8.5 4.8ghz divisor 1:1 1140mhz 3dmark03 perfomance 8
515x9.5 4,9ghz divisor 6:5 delay300 advance 300 perfomance 7
533x9 4.8ghz divisor 6:5 DELAY300 advance 300 memos marco perfomance 7
24/7 E8600
450x10 4.5ghz divisor 3:4 1200mhz 1.36vcore advance 300 advace 300 perfomance 6
563x8 4,5ghz divisor 1:1 1130mhz 1.36vcore perfomance 8
500x9 4,5ghz divisor 6:5 1200mhz 1.36vcore delay 300 advance 300 perfomance 7
474x9.5 4,5ghz divisor 6:5 1140 mhz delay300 advance 300 perfomance 7
573x7 4ghz divisor 1:1 1150MHZ 1.18VCORE advance 300 advance 300 perfomance 8
helpme xtreme systems
Of better to villain divisor: 3:5 2:3 8:5 4:5 5:6 3:4 1:1
200fsb strap is imposible up 360fsb is anormal stable
266 fsb strap 8:5 4:5 up 370fsb and 480fsb ? But it he does not remain stable Alone achievement superpi2m
333fsb strap 5:6 is stable in 4.4ghz since in 4.5ghz is unstable For superpi alone achievement to 4.8ghz not import multiplicador
help to calibrate plizz
lvl perfomance and dram skll chanel a y b
eyes Everything oc those that I gave I lack for doing since not manage mas time
eyes mi oc stabl is 4.4ghz multi 9x fsb strap 333 divisor 5:6
record superpi 2m 23seg 4.82ghz fsb strap 333 divisor 5:6 multi 9.5
3dmak 03 4.5ghz 1.31vcore multi 10 fsb strap 400 divisor 3:4 98mil puntos
Why do you want to run that specific FSB and ram speed at "Moderate" and Static enabled when "Strong" and Static disabled is somewhat better.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Hereīs two Everest screenies
465 3720 2x2 1116 555 15 tRD 7 Moderate Static enabled
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...eStaticena.png
465 3720 2x2 1116 555 15 tRD 7 Strong Static disabled
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...taticdisab.png
@Alien-Grey,
thank you for the link to mikeyakameīs post. That was the right driver.
How come ASUS doesnīt have this one in download option?
The version 6260 or 6280 wasnīt compatible to the service pack 2 for Vista.
di manage to get it stable with small and large FFTs but failing on Linx 4 or 4 pass
With Strong or Stronger it's difficult to keep it stable. You really have to push the NB and give to much voltage for the performance gain that you have. These where my stable clocks with my OCZ Reapers HPC PC2-8500 and they didn't like more bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostleader
The FSB 465MHz is just for testing BIOS 0902 because I want to start with settings that I'm 100% sure that they are stable.
I would like it to run at FSB 470MHz and DDR 1253MHz with tRD6 if that could be possible with my G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI.
That's a driver for an other newer board.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
ASUS never updates their drivers.:down:
Try with higher CPU Voltage. LinX needs more CPU Voltage than Prime95 Small FFT's.Quote:
Originally Posted by neo_rtr
Try an other CPU GTL Voltage Reference. It's possible that you have to adjust your FSB Termination Votage when you use an other CPU GTL Voltage Reference.
I highly doubt that tRD=6 is possible above 1200mhz without much overvolting MCH/DDR.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
We will see that once I get it to run stable at that FSB.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kuebk
There is nothing I can do now. BIOS 0803 doesn't like the higher DDR speed and BIOS 0902 doesn't like my system.:D
Going up and down on Route "Vlt" with no luck. I leave to it and will save some money to change the CPU.
I'm going to give it an other try with BIOS 0902.:D
With BIOS 0803 and my G.SKILLS at 1117MHz it's a no go too.
I'm going to use BIOS 0902 again and see if I can get it stable with this BIOS at 8 X 450MHz and DDR 1199MHz with tRD 6. These are the clocks that I've been using with my G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI.
I'm thinking that there is a compatibility problem with these sticks and the ASUS Rampage Formula.:yepp:
OverClocking or UnderClocking this memory seems to be impossible on the ASUS Rampage Formula.:confused:
Yoh Alien Grey,
these are about the same settings I am using for 24/7. They are LinX stable (20 runs). Iīm running it with 9*450 MHz though.
I thinks it has definitly something to do if you use a quad or a C2D.
I suppose this board isnīt realy made for quads. If you use quads you have to fire up your nb voltage over 1,5v to get a stable system.
I hope your trying wonīt fail:)
The problem starts when you don't use the sticks at there rated speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
The memory runs fine at lower or higher speed. It's as stable as can be in MemTest for Windows but it fails in LinX.
I think that greg.m has it right when he says that we need a BIOS that "improve memory compatibilty". That could be the problem.;)
I donīt argue.
The default memory settings at 1,200 MHz, 5-5-5-15 do not cause any problems at all. No matter if I am running Memtest 86+ Vers. 2.11, test#5, or LinX.
As you remember did I open up a thread in ASUSTech. forum if anybody got his system over 1,200 MHz ram speed stable. The answere was zero!
I totaly agree that we all need a BIOS that improves the memory compatibility
If you are sure that its a no go then THIS IS our "CLUE". Give us once more your "magical" ;)settings to try them and see how itll go. Lets hope theyll give us the same instabilities. This will be our argument:) with asusQuote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Here are my "Magical" settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
Try it to get it to run as stable as possible in LinX. Look what happens when you change the NB Voltage one step.Code:Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [8.0]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333MHz]
FSB Frequency [465MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100MHz]
DRAM Frequency [1117MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2N]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A/B [Auto]
DRAM TimingControl [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]
Ai Transaction Booster [Manual]
Common Performance Level [07]
Pull-In of CHA/B all disabled
CPU Voltage [1.36250V]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50V]
North Bridge Voltage [1.41V]
DRAM Voltage [1.80V]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.32V]
South Bridge Voltage [1.05V]
SB 1.5V Voltage [1.50V]
Loadline Calibration [Disabled]
CPU GTL Voltage Reference [0.63X]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67X]
DRAM Controller Voltage REF [Auto]
DRAM Channel A/B Voltage REF [Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
NB Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
CPU Ratio Setting [8.0]
C1E Support [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Enabled]
Vanderpool Technology [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Max CPUID Value Limit [Disabled
When you change the NB Voltage with one step you will see a change in the amount of stable passes in LinX.
The solution to solve this problem is the skew. I think that with smaller skew steps we will get it stable. Without the smaller skew steps we're SK(r)EWED.:D
mikeyakame I remember that in one of your posts about bios modifying you mentioned something about sli - any progress on that?
I think that e.v.o modified the BIOS for the ASUS Maximus II Formula to have sli.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuebk
I don't know if worked or not. There's not much talk about that.
Yo Alien Grey,
do you have a link for downloading LinX? My LinX wonīt work anymore for some reason:mad:
Is it bad for the CPU if the temp. goes up to 73°C ?
Does a good cooling prevent the electromigration?
It's the skew that makes it fail with the G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI.
With finer skew adjustments it's going to be possible to have it stable with higher DDR speeds and this memory.
I've got my stable clocks back at 3.6GHz and DDR 1199MHz with tRD 6.:)
Here are my settings for BIOS 0902.
LinX stable for 25 passes with BIOS 0902.:DCode:Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [8.0]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [400MHz]
FSB Frequency [450MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100MHz]
DRAM Frequency [1199MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2N]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A/B [Auto]
DRAM Timing Control [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]
Ai Transaction Booster [Manual]
Common Performance Level [06]
Pull-In of CH A/B all disabled
CPU Voltage [1.32500V]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50V]
North Bridge Voltage [1.35V]
DRAM Voltage [1.80V]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.24V]
South Bridge Voltage [1.05V]
SB 1.5V Voltage [1.50V]
Loadline Calibration [Disabled]
CPU GTL Voltage Reference [0.63X]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67X]
DRAM Controller Voltage REF [Auto]
DRAM Channel A/B Voltage REF [Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 200ps]
NB Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
CPU Ratio Setting [8.0]
C1E Support [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Enabled]
Vanderpool Technology [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Max CPUID Value Limit [Disabled]
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...tRD6-Lin-2.jpg
All we need now is smaller skew steps in the BIOS and we should have no problem to run higher DDR speeds. CPU and NB Clock Skew settings from Normal to 700 in steps of 50ps could do the trick.:yepp:
I'm talking about Rampage Formula.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
I know but I don't think that mikeyakame is still trying to mod the ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS. But if it actually works with sli it would be awesome and maybe this can be done with the ASUS Rampage Formula too.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuebk
Here's the link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=341Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
When it's running at 73°C all the time it's better to buy a good cooler.
I'm not going to say that you will see degradation if you run with that high temperature but you never know.
My good old Pentium D 840@4.2GHz was running BOINC all the time at 65-75° and there's still no signs of degradation. It still runs at 4.2GHz on the same CPU Voltage.
A-Grey.. Top man and cudos for 25pass with LinX. Could you pls do me a favor next time you with a test.
Iam interest of knowing how many amps the CPU counts. In Everest neat the bottom of the list will show Amps and Watts.
Just interesting of knowing have many amps/watts your cpu consumes.
Ėf anyone else is kind to take the time and read out these 2 values , much appreciated.
Greg.M, can you do the same pls.
I did that a while ago to see how much watt it uses. The result is impressive. It's so low that it's impossible that the read out could be correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by neo_rtr
The makers of EVEREST Ultimate Edition say that it's the EPO chip that reports such a low watt consumption.
I'll post a screen shot later.
This is what EVEREST reports as my power consumption.:shocked:
The highest peaks are measured while LinX was running.
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...onsumption.jpg
Not bad for 3.6GHz if it's actually true this low power consumption.:D
There is an other page as well where this info is shown., will update from home.
Well iam on 180W.. and abouts 100amps..according to the reading. will post a picture later on from home.
The info iam taking the reading from is under Everest main page.
Computer -> Sensor.
It shows the same values.Quote:
Originally Posted by neo_rtr
Idle I get 8.67A and 9.75W under full load with LinX I get 76.48A and 85.80W.
Yo Alien Grey,
thank you for the LinX link.
I ran 20 loops LinX "all" without errors with these settings:
BIOS@0902-Settings of the Maximus@Rampage
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC from CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [9]
FSB Frequency [450]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [400]
PCIE Frequency [100]
RAM
DRAM Settings [Manual]
DRAM Frequency [1.200MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
DRAM CMD Skew on Channel A [Auto]
DRAM CMD Skew on Channel B [Auto]
DRAM Clock Skew on Channel A [advanced 250ps]
DRAM Clock Skew on Channel B [advanced 300ps]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [15]
RAS# to Ras# Delay [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [Auto]
Write Recovery Time [Auto]
Read to Precharge Time [Auto]
Read to Write Delay (S/D) [Auto]
Write to Read Delay (S) [Auto]
Write to Read Delay (D) [Auto]
Read to Read Delay (S) [Auto]
Read to Read Delay (D) [Auto]
Write to Write Delay(S) [Auto]
Write to Write Delay (D) [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister [moderate]
Transaction Booster [Manual]
Common Performance-Level [6]
Pull-In CHA PH1 [deaktiviert]
Pull-In CHA PH2 [deaktiviert]
Pull-In CHA PH3 [deaktiviert]
Pull-In CHB PH1 [deaktiviert]
Pull-In CHB PH2 [deaktiviert]
Pull-In CHB PH3 [deaktiviert]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1,30625V]
CPU PLL Voltage [1,54V]
North Bridge Voltage [1,33V=1,35V real]
DRAM Voltage [1,80V=1,89V real]
FSB Termination Voltage [1,24V=1,16Vreal]
South Bridge Voltage [1,05V]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0,63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
NB Clock Skew [normal]
http://www.abload.de/img/linx_20_runs6qfy.jpg
The highest temp on both cores was 79°C which made me a little shaky.
Cetero censeo:
I canīt get my system stable at a memory speed faster than 1,200 MHz.
No matter what I do:shrug:
It's a strange problem. Everything runs stable with DDR1200MHz. When you try to change the DDR speed you can't have it stable anymore although the memory seems to be 100% stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
What happens when you don't advance the DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A/B?
I havenīt tried LinX without advancing channel A/B.
But I know for sure that Iīll receive a funny DIMM Clock Fine Delay about 1T on DIMM 1, 10T on DIMM 2, 1T on DIMM 3, 10T on DIMM 4.
That seems to be a very screwed up timing.
I set 300 ps advanced on channel B and just 250 ps on channel A because the lines of channel B are a little longer so I fell like making it even. Got me?
http://www.abload.de/img/dimm7kch.jpg
It's funny that it works for you. If I try to change one of the DRAM CLK Skews I get "red alerts" in ASUS PC Probe II.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
I have the following values depending of the testQuote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Current Value.:103,53A.....106,76A....102,49A...
Power Value...:145,91W....150,29W...144,45W...
But i have seen 180W and 125A at least..
Do your mosfets get hot?Quote:
Originally Posted by neo_rtr
The mosfets are watercooled as well :)Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
no problem
Difficult to know then if your CPU takes a lot of watts.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by neo_rtr
Well here is what my cpu "eats":shocked::shocked: during prime95small and some benches:). Until now these settings are prime95small and memtest error free. Ill try to lower my volts a little.
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/3210/wattso.jpg
Its about the same.. so its safe to assune that this is about normal usage..
tks greg.
I think it is. Yours needs more watt for the speed you are running it and greg.m's CPU is higher clocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by neo_rtr
I'm happy with my 85.80 Watt.:ROTF:
@greg.m
What BIOS version are using for your FSB 480MHz?
0803 with 0902 icouldnt get my system stableQuote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
I'm not surprised that it's BIOS 0803. I would have been surprised if it was 0902.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
Everyone is waiting for the answer from ASUS about the stability problems with 0902. Most users are scared to use this BIOS because of the problems that we're having with it.
BIOS 0902 isn't better than BIOS 0803. Most users take my advice and who doesn't need this BIOS for some reason stays with BIOS 0803.
I think that the problem is the CPU and NB Clock Skew. But I'm not realy sure because with BIOS 0803 I have the same problems to get my system stable if I'm trying to run it at 8 X 465MHz.
Why it was stable at 8 X 465MHz and my OCZ Reaper HPC PC2-8500@DDR1117MHz and not with the G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI is something I don't understand.:shrug:
With every speed that I tested the G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI the memory was stable but it fails LinX.:confused:
Maybe the G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI puts more strain on the NB than my OCZ Reaper HPC PC2-8500 did and that fine tuning the skews would make these stability problems go away.:shrug:
Did you compare all the sub timings of each RAM kit in memset?Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
No and I can't anymore because I sold that memory to a friend. What I do know is that tRFC is at 52T with the G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI and at 54T for the OCZ Reaper HPC PC2-8500.Quote:
Originally Posted by Armored_Kech1
There might be more sub timings different between these 2 kits but I don't know it.
The G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI is always stable so there can't be very much difference in sub timings.
I don't think that the these stability problems in LinX are made by the memory. The only problem that I see is the skews. I think that steps of 100ps are to large for this board. With only a difference of 100ps between the CPU and NB Clock Skew there is not much you can do. You can delay the CPU Clock Skew 100ps more or you can keep them equal.
I see that Gigabyte boards have steps of 50ps. I don't know if there are any ASUS boards that have steps of 50ps.
There is also tREF. It has no huge impact on stability. That is true but starting a refresh every 3120T with 2 X 2 Giga DDR 1200MHz or more seems a bit to much for me.
Hey A-Grey do you think that the OCZ Blade PC2-8500 would help my overclocking problems?
It's very good memory that is cheaper than the G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI.Quote:
Originally Posted by m4gg0t
Here's a thread about this memory. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=223507
It's worth a try for the price that this memory costs.
I'm going to try and get these memorys then. Wish me luck. :)
They seem to be good. Unfortunatly they aren't tested on an Intel Chipset.Quote:
Originally Posted by m4gg0t
well they say that they do better on intel boards and they were made for intel boards.
I just saw this on OCZ website the OCZ Blade PC2-9600 Low Voltage. http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...e_blade_series
When they really can do DDR 1200MHz at 1.80V that's the kit you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by m4gg0t
I don't see them anywhere available at the moment. I would like to know what that kit costs.
They look promising but do they like to run on the RF.
Prize according to Fudzilla
"If all of these kits are like the one tested, these are some mean overclockers. The kits are both listed at OCZ's website and the 4GB DDR2-1066 XTC Platinum LV kit can be found here, while the 4GB Blade Series LV is here. Both kits are selling at German Alternate.de where the XTC Platinum sells for 63,90 and the fancy Blade heatsinks are a bit more expensive as it sells for 74,90."
Read the rest of the article here.
Tony over at OCZ have tested them on a AMD system though, read it here, start at post 4
There is one thing that we know and that is that the Rampage Formula has no problems to run with 2 X 2 Giga DDR 1200MHz 5-5-5 timings so there's a good chance that they can run at that speed on the Rampage Formula.
@greg.m,
thank for posting your oc results. As I see do you have a Q9650 and a ATI 4820X2 video card.
Many friends of mine told me that the X48 chip plus a quad needs a hell of a lot voltage to the nb being prime95 or LinX 0.5.8 stable.:shocked:
This "hell of a lot voltage" should be about 1.5v and more.
Would you say thatīs true?
How much voltage did you take on the NB to get your oc stable?
I donīt doubt that the RF can handle the speed, more that can the RF run those IC at that speed (Elpida, Samsung, Micron :shrug:), probably no problem but you never know. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
Depends on how high FSB, high ram speed, low tRD (Performace Level) or aggresive AI Clock Twister you want to run.
If you donīt want to lose to much performance due to the above I would say yes you need more then 1,50v on that NB.
Hereīs my Q9650@450 4,05GHz 4x2 ram@1080 555 15 tRD7 Strong with bios 0802.
Itīs stable with 50 loop LinX (5+hrs, max problem size and max memory use).
Itīs not an over the hill OC but itīs a decent 24/7 OC setup in my opinion but I needed 1,51v (in bios, 1,49v Everest read)
If you want to push for higher FSB, ram speed, lower tRD or more aggresive AI Clock Twister you need higher NB volt.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...04x2108055.jpg
Thx for your reply Ghostleader,
I am planing to run 450 MHz fsb@600MHz ram speed and a PL of 6.
That means I should fire up 1.35v to the cpu and 1,51v to the nb.
Water cooling might reduce the electromigration too.
(I hope I translate this right; :confused:electromigration means that the electrons hit wholes through the tiny transistors so they wonīt work anymore. Good cooling shloud prevent that {?})
Are you talking about e8500 or q9650? If i remember well i could run 450x9@1199 with very low voltage. nbv arround 1.25 and vcore 1.25 both real volts. Ican try once more and come back with the results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
Now i run 480x9@4320@1200pl7 with the volts you see on the screens. Cpu skew@200, nbskew@100. Its prime95small - blend and memtest stable but i havent tried linx and ibt.
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6763/skrmklipp.jpg
and some benches AFTER i set everything in catalyst settings @ factory defaults settings - except clocks, 800-1000. If you go back to my previous screens youll see that i was about 2000 points worst @ vantage with the same cpu and fsb speed!!!
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9...newbenches.jpg
I was wrong not prime95small ftp stable only blend 2 cycles error freeQuote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
Yo greg.m,
I was talking about the q9650 that should run on my board in future.
My e8500 is running 450MHz@600MHz ram speed very fine right now so I am interessted if the q9650 will do the same job too;)
To run my ram stable @ 600mhz I need 1.45v on MCH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
Is LinX 20 runs @ prob Size 20k a good enough stability test while still trying to achieve the lowest stable vCore?
I have a query: I have seen 800Mhz ram kits hitting the same speeds as a 1000 or 1200 Mhz memories - say 9k-10k in Read/Write/Copy.So, why pay the extra premium for the faster rated rams if 800Mhz can do the job?
EDIT: Is there anything to consider between Residual and Residual(norm) values in LinX being close together or being far apart?
When I was o/cing my ram it used to fail around 40-50 loop, so imo 20 loops is not enough - I'm using 100 loops to test stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBull1985
All mem for 100 loops? thats gonna take an awful lotta time for quick testing.....I just wanna see how low vcore i can attain for the 490x 8.5 FSB and need some quick LinX settings to test stability for that.Once it starts failing these, i will up the vCore a notch and run extensive tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuebk
For me 25 passes is enough than I move to Prime95 Blend for 6 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuebk
To find your lowest stable vCore it's more than enough. When your one notch to low of vCore you'll fail LinX in a few passesQuote:
Originally Posted by RedBull1985
I received some information today from the ASUS Engineer about our problems with BIOS 0902.
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...e=en-us&page=3
When you want to reply with something do it in that thread on the ASUS Rampage Formula forum to keep everything around BIOS 0902 and the problems/issues together.
It's easier for us and for the ASUS Tech Support that everything can be found in one thread.:yepp:
Yoh guys,
I couldnīt get along with the reply that ASUS gave me about the random failiors overclocking my memory more than 1,200 MHz.
Here is the ASUS reply:
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
My name is XXX and it's my pleasure to help you with your problem.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
The motherboard supports DDR2 1200 RAMs under overclocking.
So, to make the RAMs work at 1200MHz or above, you may need to adjust the RAM voltage and timings. But we cannot provide you the settings. Meanwhile, we suggest you use the RAMs in our QVL list. They have been tested by our relative department.
Welcome to refer Troubleshooting & FAQ for ASUS products in ASUS website:
http://support.asus.com/troubleshoot...Language=en-us
http://support.asus.com/faq/faq.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
If having any problems, please don't hesitate to let me know. Let's discuss this
issue together.:rofl:
Thank you for using ASUS products and enjoying ASUS services!
Here is my argument:
O.K. Thank you for your reply.
I regret that you missed the point again. I am overclocking computers for many years. So I donīt need any repetitional lessons how to ajust the RAM voltage, timings or anything else about this.
If you are not able to handle my detailed problem report why donīt you just send it to the department that has to do with bios programming?
There is no sens to ignore all these ASUS customers, except you want to get rid of them. Just read the following sites and realize the topic by yourself: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
At last I want to please you in the name of all the customers: Send my mail including the link to the bios department of ASUS. We all hope the engineers will take notice of this problem to create a better bios.
With the best regards
Please tell me your opion about it
Quote:
Originally Posted by neo_rtr
Since I flashed my BIOS to 0902 I have a similar issue. When I flash my board back to BIOS 0803 I can't get my system stable anymore with 8 X 465MHz and DDR 1117MHz.
If this is caused by the G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI memory. :shrug:
Or is this because of the crappy BIOS 0902. :shrug:
I very sorry to hear that.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
The Asus tech, probably 1st line support, will have to escalate to 3rd line or even better to programmers directly.
Escalate is the key word. IF they do not escalate it, there will not be a solution.
Most likekly will have to sent it to a TL (Team Leader) who will have to pass it on as DRQS is the term we use, (they might use a different one) to the programmers/Bios engineers
The last few days im testing higher fsbs. Until now i see that running memory-fsb 10:8 its easy thats why im trying 490-495 fsb to see how it goes @ 1225 and 1235. I did 20 runs linx with these volts:
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3996/skrmklipp4.jpg
I couldnt do more than 4-5 passes with nbv@1.45 so i raised it@1.49 and it went well. Fritz i see that you have an E8500. Can you do 500fsb? If yes you should try running your mem. @ 1250 and see what happens.
Yoh greg,
Tank you for your post.
I think I can run fsb of 500 MHz. But how should I run a memory speed @1250?
Using a divider of 6:5 by running a fsb of 500 MHz I will receive a mem. speed of 1200 MHz and a PL of 7.
At last using a fsb@468 MHz and a divider of 4:3 I will be able to run 1250MHz mem. speed. But I am not having a fsb of 500 MHz though- maybe I ve got you wrong.
Anyway I never lose the PL running a high fsb out of sight:
[tRD-(tCL/N)]>[x/N]
N=Divider (strap)
X=2 @ fsb @400-465 MHz
X=2.75 @ fsb@465 MHz or greater
Edit: You mean the 10:8 divider, donīt you? Is it in the 333 or 400 strap?
Edit:Edit: I have got it. This divider is in the 266 strap
It looks like ASUS didn't do their tests right. There are already 2 guys having problems with BIOS 0902 on the ASUS Rampage Formula forum. :D
I'm waiting for a new BIOS release that improves memory compatibility or whatever they're going to call it. ;)
Yes youre right its 266 strap. For me its very very hard to do 500fsb. I have to go to crazy nbv and fsbv - i think. Now im trying 490 fsb but i have to stabilize my cpu first and then find out what happens with our memory:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
Yoh greg,
Itīs the very same with my system. To get it startet I need to fire 1.55v to the nb and 1,38v to vttfsb. A lower nb voltage ends with DET|RAM:mad:
I can run 1250 MHz though but I doubt if itīs gonna be stable just because of the nb temp.
Iīm afraid to mess up my nb for a 24/7 use.
P.S. Iīve sent youīr pm...? Thank you!
@Alien Grey,
I realy donīt know how I got this issue with my avatar picture straight
FSB Strap 266MHz is to tight for FSB 500MHz that's why you need so much voltage on the NB and have difficulties to get it stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m