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10-25-2008, 12:11 AM
carepolice

sensors are for lazy people :eek:

Not that hard test NB whit your fingers, same goes for rams too... :cool:
10-25-2008, 04:54 AM
gugle

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsonJS

Nope, no NB or SB temps. Deluxe has at least NB temps but I don't about SB.

thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by carepolice

sensors are for lazy people :eek:

Not that hard test NB whit your fingers, same goes for rams too... :cool:

:clap: :rofl:
10-25-2008, 05:11 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsonJS

Nope, no NB or SB temps. Deluxe has at least NB temps but I don't about SB.

Dlx has same readouts as E mate, only MFII has got readouts foreseen via bios...

http://users.telenet.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5QDlx%20012.jpg
10-25-2008, 11:29 AM
samsonJS

Oops, my mistake. I must have been thinking of the Maximus II Formula or something. How I confused them is another story. :rolleyes:
10-26-2008, 06:01 AM
cchilb

I got this board on Thursday from Newegg so far I really like it. It is a Rev A3 board.This is where I am at for a 24/7 set up just wondering if all the voltages are ok for this?

COOLER MASTER RC-690 case
ASUS P5Q-E Rev A3 Motherboard
E8500 E0 VID 1.250 cpu
4x1 GIG CellShock PC2-8000 4-4-4-12 memory
Thermalright Ultra-120
EVGA GeForce GTX 260 Superclocked Edition
Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit

AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Frequency: 505
PCI-E Frequency: 100
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: 1012
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 4
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 4
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay (D): Auto
READ to READ Delay (S): Auto
READ to READ Delay (D): Auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: Auto
READ to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
AI Clock Twister: Moderate
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance level 10

CPU Voltage: 1.3000
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.20
DRAM Voltage: 2.06
NB Voltage: 1.20
NB GTL Reference: .63
SBridge Voltage: 1.2
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.6

Load Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Delay 400ps
NB Clock Skew : Delay 200ps
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized
10-26-2008, 06:18 AM
carepolice

Voltages are just fine, you even got lot of headroom to go if you want :up:
You could try loadline calibration enabled.

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CPU Clock Skew : Delay 400ps
NB Clock Skew : Delay 200ps

can you tell me how did you end use those? Does it give somekind of help for overclocking :eek: :confused:
10-26-2008, 09:28 AM
cchilb

I read on another post that 400 and 200 worked well so that is what I went with. Not sure what they do. I just wanted to do 500 to 520 without to much trouble and this board seems to be able to do that. I had the loadline calibration enabled but it booted slower and just didnt feel right. I sent a GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P back to newegg. If you are after max fsb then the Gigabyte would be a great choice I had it up to 590mhz but it takes a lot more voltage to make it run stable at 500mhz than the Asus. The Gigabyte just didnt seem to work as well for me. The Asus is easy to work with.
10-26-2008, 08:08 PM
samsonJS

That's kind of funny, I needed less vcore to push my q9450 to 4ghz on my gigabyte ep45-ds3r than my p5q-e. I would have thought the UD3P to be even better but each board is different anyway I guess.

carepolice: clock skew basics. they can help push the limits of your hardware but there is a lot of trial & error involved. They were a bigger help on my ep45-ds3r than my p5q-e. I can reach 500fsb with all skews on Auto on my p5q-e. I think I spent too much time them relative to the pay-off. I get the impression that they're most useful for extreme fsb overclocks, e.g. 600+.
10-27-2008, 05:12 AM
ssabripo

got mine a couple of weeks ago, and I have it pretty nice where I want it for 24/7 use, but would like to get it a little faster while maintaining lower Voltages and Temps...any help appreciated:

Antec P80B
ASUS P5Q-E Rev A3 Motherboard
E8400 E0 cpu
4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 4-4-4-12 (2.0v)memory
Scythe Infinity + 120mm
Radeon X1900XT 512mb (OC'd to 692/712)
XP Pro SP3

AI Tweaker

AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.0
FSB Frequency: 446
PCI-E Frequency: 100
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 4
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 4
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay (D): Auto
READ to READ Delay (S): Auto
READ to READ Delay (D): Auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: Auto
READ to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
AI Clock Twister: Moderate
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance level 10

CPU Voltage: 1.28500
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: Auto
SBridge Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Default
NB Clock Skew : Default
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...0OClowtemp.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...ghze8400OC.jpg
10-27-2008, 05:39 AM
Leeghoofd

STOP USING AUTO PLZ FOR THE FOLLOWING SETTINGS !!! UNLESS YOU HAVE VERIFIED WITH A DIGITAL MULTIMETER THAT YOUR BOARD DOES NOT OVERVOLT LIKE MOST E AND DLX BOARDS....
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto --> Try 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto --> TRY 1.22

and try to go lower on them... though do NOT use the lowest settings possible

CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5 THESE OVERVOLT AS MUCH AS AUTO
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.1 THESE OVERVOLT AS MUCH AS AUTO
10-27-2008, 06:28 AM
cchilb

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Here is a 24 hour Orthos run at 505 mhz.
10-27-2008, 06:34 AM
cchilb

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Here is a 24 hour Orthos run at 505 mhz.
10-27-2008, 07:21 AM
ssabripo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

STOP USING AUTO PLZ FOR THE FOLLOWING SETTINGS !!! UNLESS YOU HAVE VERIFIED WITH A DIGITAL MULTIMETER THAT YOUR BOARD DOES NOT OVERVOLT LIKE MOST E AND DLX BOARDS....
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto --> Try 1.26
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto --> TRY 1.22

and try to go lower on them... though do NOT use the lowest settings possible

CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5 THESE OVERVOLT AS MUCH AS AUTO
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.1 THESE OVERVOLT AS MUCH AS AUTO

so which numbers to use then? 1.26/1.22 or 1.5/1.1 ( I assume the former)

also, looking at some of the previous posters in the past 3 pages, there has been a lot of people with CPU PLL Voltage > 1.5v....should I not approach this? :confused:
10-27-2008, 07:46 AM
samsonJS

ssabripo: I would drop your performance level to 8. You might need to increase NB voltage a tiny bit or run your memory at 5-5-5-12 or 5-5-5-15 but you should see better performance. Do some benchmarks though, don't take my word for it since I don't know what you do with your machine.
10-27-2008, 08:02 AM
ssabripo

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsonJS

ssabripo: I would drop your performance level to 8. You might need to increase NB voltage a tiny bit or run your memory at 5-5-5-12 or 5-5-5-15 but you should see better performance. Do some benchmarks though, don't take my word for it since I don't know what you do with your machine.

I'm doing about 11.5secs on 1M superPi, so it's not too bad.

I like that it is running pretty cool temps considering everything. Since I have an E0, I was hoping to goto 4.2ghz on air at pretty low Voltages and Temps, but 4ghz is fine for what I do.

just want to see where the limits of this machine is with as low temps/voltages as possible.
10-27-2008, 08:41 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssabripo

so which numbers to use then? 1.26/1.22 or 1.5/1.1 ( I assume the former)

also, looking at some of the previous posters in the past 3 pages, there has been a lot of people with CPU PLL Voltage > 1.5v....should I not approach this? :confused:

Yeah sorry my error

CPU PLL : 1.56 and FSB Term Voltage try 1.26 and try to go lower on both of them... the red colours are the lowest values you can select but they overvolt as the AUTO setting so NOT recommended at all... (unless you got a bug free board)
10-27-2008, 09:18 AM
ssabripo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Yeah sorry my error

CPU PLL : 1.56 and FSB Term Voltage try 1.26 and try to go lower on both of them... the red colours are the lowest values you can select but they overvolt as the AUTO setting so NOT recommended at all... (unless you got a bug free board)

gotcha!

ok, I'm gonna try this:

CPU PLL = 1.56v
FSB termination = 1.26v
Vcore = 1.29375
NB voltage = 1.30v

RAM speed = DDR2-982
fsb= 467

and see if it runs stable and somewhat cool :)
10-27-2008, 09:42 AM
Brahmzy

My board gets in this afternoon. Excited!
10-27-2008, 08:33 PM
gugle

NB the need for extra cooling be better, and hold it over more?
10-28-2008, 06:52 AM
cchilb

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Well here is as high as I can get into windows on my board. Testing at 520mhz by 8 for 24/7.
10-28-2008, 07:38 AM
gugle

P45 + Q6600, the best monitor the temperature?
CoreTemp or RealTemp?
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5158/corerealxt3.jpg
10-28-2008, 07:52 AM
cchilb

Not sure I have both. I set up Real Temp per the instructions and have a -2.0 in idle calibration. Core Temp checks about 3 C hotter with no offset.
10-28-2008, 10:09 AM
Leeghoofd

Think the latest release by intel for the TJcasemax specs was 95°C for Q6600 and not 100°C as we always presumed... so for me realtemp... which cooler mate ?
10-28-2008, 01:58 PM
supermario

Hi guys,

Those of you with rev A3, do you know the first 2 digits of serial number (ie. 86MXXXX...)?

I wonder if A3 P5Q-Es are all produced in August 2008.
10-29-2008, 06:02 AM
gugle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Think the latest release by intel for the TJcasemax specs was 95°C for Q6600 and not 100°C as we always presumed... so for me realtemp... which cooler mate ?

then the RealTemp is the most right?
I use a set that WC

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I can not stable ..
will be memory or cpu?

Test In-Place FFTs
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3...imeerroua5.jpg

ASUS P5Q-E Rev A2 Motherboard
Q6600 G0 (Vid-1325v)
4x1GB AxeRam (micron) PC2-6400 4-4-4-12 (1.8v)
8800GT
Vista64 SP1

AI Tweaker

AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 425
PCI-E Frequency: 100
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay (D): Auto
READ to READ Delay (S): Auto
READ to READ Delay (D): Auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: Auto
READ to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
AI Clock Twister: Auto
AI Transaction Booster: Auto

CPU Voltage: 1.4250
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 2.16
NB Voltage: 1.34
NB GTL Reference: Auto
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

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