I guess I should have been able to figure that out myself, thank you very much for taking the time to explain it! Although its simple that little bit of information will really help when tweaking/testing!
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I guess I should have been able to figure that out myself, thank you very much for taking the time to explain it! Although its simple that little bit of information will really help when tweaking/testing!
Thanks for trying to help me out here. i will try it outQuote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
But iam serious I will start a new Thread to have someone paied 100$ by paypal or something if ones manage to provide hard facts, settings to OC this blooooody QX to 3.8ghz.
QX is unlocked multiplier. Set FSB to 345 or 380mhz, and set multiplier to 11 or 10x :) Add some Vcc voltage and u should be set. If not your chip just might not do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by neo_rtr
Leave DRAM Controller Voltage REF and DRAM Channel A/B REF on auto. It's something you can try out for fine tuning but you don't need it right now. Let us know where it fails in Prime95.Quote:
Originally Posted by neo_rtr
thks A-Gray that's interesting to know :D hope they really do include tREF settings in newer RF BIOS releases, even if they are just manual settings, they would come in really handy... also, hope i can mod my P5E with them :PQuote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
thanks again!
The 380x10 i have try and as Yoda says Do or do not... there is no try.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyakame
This time is not doing it!
Will do the 345x11 this evening.
Now that I have gotten my Raid drivers figured out I can actually start some tweaking. I wanted ask some question to people that are using the board. Right now I am using stock cooling with a Zalman 9700 and AS5. I will be water cooling soon, but I am wondering if I need to add the NB in the CPU loop if I am not going to be doing any extreme fsb settings. I had my Q6600@3.6 with a 450fsb and was hoping for a little more once the h2o is complete, but 24/7 is goal will be 3.8ghz. Would there be an easier air cooling option that would dump extra heat in my loop? I will be running 2x4870 1gb so space is a concern.
If you are planning to use a watercooling and you are going to use 2 graphics cards, you will need all the cooling you can get for the NB. Especially when you are going to overclock the cpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonni Nitro
So, watercooling the NB is a good choice.
I will be doing dual loops. One for both gpus and one for cpu and nb. I am going to start tweaking this evening and hopefully end up with a decent OC for now. My only concern right now is how far I can go with 4 1gb sticks of Dominator ram. I have been told/read that using all for slots uses a lot of power and can be unstable.
Dont believe everything you hear/read man, it's just a matter of tuning the setup to get to where you want to be...:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonni Nitro
It's better to use 2 X 2 giga than 4 X 1 giga. But you can try it first with the 4 X 1 giga and see how it runs like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonni Nitro
FSB to 345 or 380mhz, and multiplier to 11 or 10x fails BSOD v up 1.6v
testing prime
NB GTL x.67- CPU GTL x.63 - 1.50v ok custom
NB GTL x.67- CPU GTL x.65 - 1.50v fails custom
NB GTL x.67- CPU GTL x.63 - 1.52v fails custom small FFT
NB GTL x.67- CPU GTL x.65 - 1.52v fails custom
NB GTL x.67- CPU GTL x.65 - 1.55v ok custom
NB GTL x.67- CPU GTL x.65 - 1.48v ok custom
NB GTL x.67- CPU GTL x.63 - 1.46v ok custom
NB GTL x.67- CPU GTL x.63 - 1.44v fails small FTT
NB GTL x.63- CPU GTL x.65 - 1.46v fails small FTT
NB GTL x.63- CPU GTL x.65 - 1.50v fails small FTT around 12th cycle
NB GTL x.67- CPU GTL x.65 - 1.50v fails small FTT with +1Cpu & pll Vtls
customīmode works much better ???
Passed Small FFT
NB GTL x.67- CPU GTL x.63 - FSB 1.52v . CPU 1.46875v CPU PLL 1.56v NB 1.55v meaning i had to go +1 click on the vlts
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By neo_rtr at 2009-02-26
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By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2009-02-26
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By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2009-02-26
Consider your self lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by neo_rtr
My Q6600 appears to be showing an onset of HIGH-FSB-ITIS. It throws random calculation errors in Linpack above 410mhz FSB. But below so far it seems fine. Guess it's had a rough life and retirement is forthcoming.
Time to rape the performance level and cross clocking skews instead and see if I can make a measly 408mhz FSB a little more exciting!
Perhaps your chip is showing its age like mine :) They won't take lots of voltage forever you know :)
At least I have something to be happy about Prime95 won't fail for me at all! It refuses to give me errors, Linpack is the only app that can push my CPU hard enough to show the detereoration it seems. I can still run Prime95 for 12hrs and it passes. I run 2 or 3 8min Linpack runs, and b y the 2nd or 3rd i'm getting one or two calculation errors from 17 problems.
So I started in on some tweaking last night. Things went well for the most part and I am currently at 410fsb. What strap should I be using to keep my memory at 1:1? Right now it is at 400, and I have my ram right at 1060. I am also not sure about "skew" settings. I am not really sure what they do, but I would like to know how to adjust them. Right they are on auto. I have my chip at 1.49v atm, but that isnt fined tuned at all. The quad is actually getting a little warm, but for now its only for testing. I will see how low I can set it later. How high of temps can I let the quad go while in Prime? I am not to worried about longevity on the chip, but I dont want to kill it either.
New BIOS 803 on Asus FTP site here
I guess it it 802 renamed :(
Wow, been a while since I have visited this thread.
Ok, well, before I even get into some more OC questions with this board, I am looking to change my E8400 out for a quad but unsure what look at for this board. I see lots with 6600's, but I am assuming that is because of budget purposes? Just curious, what quads should I look into? Budget is a concern of course but I am looking at $300 as a limit for the CPU.
What do you all think?
Thanks.
Neh not budget, just this board clocks 65nm quads really well ;) X48 is a 90nm chipset, so it's more aligned to the 65nm cpus. None the less it clocks 45nm chips really well too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Locutis
Other thing is a lot of us bought this board just when 45nm chips were coming out so we already had Q6600s that have been venerable enough to not replace :)
If you are looking into quads go for the Q9550 :)
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyakame
Not that they are in a price range, but what makes the extremes worth the cost behind them, even now with the i7's out?
What is the best Bios so far for this board. I have been using 0401 for 9 months now with no issues. I would like to know if there are any significant fixes in Bios that I am not benefitting by not upgrading.
Thanks in advance
$300 price range? Depends on which country you are in and currency you are talking :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Locutis
Q9550 sell around $320-330USD, even cheaper if look around on EBAY or get a good rebate rate :)
In Australia they can be found around ~ $450AUD.
Hey guys have q6600. If one core fails, GENERALLY where would you look first or what's the first setting you would GENERALLY go to adjust? Thanks.
BIOS 08XX has CPU and NB Clock Skew, new settings to play with.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickgerry
Just made this thread. http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/....php?p=3688585
Looking to get some answers on a single or dual rad just for the VGA. In case anyone know pls let me know. thanks
Is it bad of one core if faster then the others in Prime 95?
I was completely wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brama
With byte compare utility, they are completely different in 567 K locations.
I guess it is a complete BIOS module rewritten.
I confirm, it is module 1B rewritten completely and longer in 803 and 4 bytes in SMBIOS module
This BIOS is as good as BIOS 0701. I can run my Q9450@3.72GHz for 3.5 hours Prime95+UT2004 stable. I'm aiming for over 6 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brama
I updated (downgraded because all higher versions are for X58 and I don't know if that is good) the Intel Chipset Drivers to version 9.0.0.1011 WHQL, updated DirectX 9.0C to the latest version November 2008 (I don't know if this was already done) and installed the latest NVIDIA driver 182.06 WHQL.
I know when i upgraded to the latest INF something went screwy with my pci/pci-e on the board, only way i found it was that my physx card was no longer recognized... Took a reformat for me to find out that the new drivers were the issue though....:shakes:
Hey guys couple of questons. So far I am running my board with the specs in sig. So I have things running 8x465 right now. I have choosen the 266 strap for my ram and I am trying to figure out how I can run a 1:1 ratio. In CPU-z its shows a 4:5 ratio. Will I even be able to run 1:1? I am also thinking of getting a 2x2gb set instead of 4x1gb, any suggestions? I have had G. Skill in the past and found it to be pretty good. Overall I am pretty happy with things, but I wont try much higher until I get my watercooling setup. Lastly, are there any worth while cooling mods to be done to this board? Like replacing all the thermal paste and such.
ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS 0803 is now official and can be downloaded from the Official ASUS Download Page.
The DRAM Clock Fine Delays are back at 4-2-4-2 with DRAM CLK Skew Channel A/B set at AUTO.
This thread is soooo long, anybody can tell me what is average FSB with E8000 series? It is possible to hit 620-630 easly (like Rampage Extreme)?
BIOS 0803 is the most stable BIOS available for my system.
IntelBurnTest 25 passes and 6 Hours Prime95 + Unreal Tournament 2004 stable.:up:
Here's a screen shot with tREF at 4352T. The GFlops are a little higher, with tREF 4352T for 1117MHz than with tREF at 3120T set by the BIOS, as expected.
How do you figure out what tref you need to set??
7800/(1000/DRAM)Quote:
Originally Posted by screwtech02
Example: 800MHz -> 7800/(1000/400MHz)=3120 -> 3120T
Ok, i didnt get that at all..:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
I'm runnin 8gb, currently at 3.7 on the proc, 1108 on the mem, so how do i "cipher" it out???
7800/(1000/554)=4321 -> 4321T is the tREF that you can use for 1108MHzQuote:
Originally Posted by screwtech02
where did you got memset with that tref values ?Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Man, i still dont get the math, but ill try it.....:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
I didn't, it's MemSet Version 4. I used Bar_Edit to change the tREF timing and MemSet to verify that the timing is right.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
OK thanks, now one question more :) I tryed to figure out what registers to change, but a lof of different registers change in bar_edit when you change tref timing with memset, is there anywhere written what register is for what?Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
I've got this from mikeyakame.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
The registers you need to change are: FED14260 08 and FED14660 08
See the screen shots. It's for changing tREF from 3120T for 800MHz to 4352T for 1117MHz.
To verify that tREF is correct you can use MemSet or Everest Ultimate Edition.
heh :) thanks, just figured it out 5min ago, found post from him on page 63 i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
A-Grey can you post your bios settings, i have mostly the same configuration as you and i would like to push my cpu a little further, please tell me your setting, i would like to try them. Thanks!
You can find my BIOS 0803 settings on the ASUS Rampage Formula Forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaLiu
OK, this bar_edit is great, it lets you set all timings as well. for example with different clock fine delays on each hardreboot/powerup, you can set them to be always the same with this :) to bad that outside what mikeyakame posted, i have no clue what everything is but its way then enough for me already that it fixes that fine delays problem and adds compleatly custom tref values.
tRTP with this bios is wrong (0803) it is set to 5 although in bios it is 3 (Read to PRE time).
I think it is wrong a long time ago ...
Did anyone noticed that?
Is there a way to permanently set tREF correctly?
And what should my tREF be with 4.05ghz 475x8.5 DDR2 1146 (570mhz) 4:5
I got 4446T for the tREF hopefully thats right.
Why set tRef to that of the proposed and not 16383T which gives the most bandwidth (only with 0308 bios and earlier though)?
It's close it should be 4470T.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
(7.8 x 1000) / (1000/573)=4469.4
or
(7800) / (1.7452)=4469.4 -> 4470T
Use BAR_Edit V3.0 and change the registers to CF117600. When you have done it right you should see 4470T as tREF in MemSet V4.0 or EVEREST Ultimate Edition.
You can try higher values. It is possible that it works and that your memory runs stable like that to but following JEDEC specs can never be wrong.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
Thanx for the settings :up: they work great with me here!!Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Thanks, also how are you deriving the values for the various numbers? I would just be interested in trying different things maybe :)Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Also is there any benefit to updating the Intel Matrix Storage option in the BIOS?
you convert tref number it to hex then sum c000 to it and replace what is bold with what you got in "CF117600".Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
for example:
4500T = 1194h
1194h + C000h = D194h
so you get CFD19400
actualy, CF117600 shouldnt get you tref of 4470T at all, dunno i never tryed direct values, i did according to this POST, that gives you formula that i wrote above.
Thanks alot :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
It works I tried it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLoR
For tREF 4360T Decimal 4360 -> Hexadecimal 1108
CFCC3000 -> CF110800 that gives me 4360T.
Decimal to Hexadecimal converter
Yes, I did noticed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
Could one of you mathematical geniuses calculate this for me:
7800* 1000/478 (2.092) = 16318
Hex=3FBE + C000h
=?
You don't have to add anything. I you want 16318T use CF3FBE00.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
When you verify this with MemSet V4.0 or EVEREST Ultimate Edition you will see that tREF is now 16318T.
Thanks; looks goodso far, working to stay on CAS 4 for as much as I could without too much vdimm for 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
Nice.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Yeah, pity I can't run 500 FSB 4-4-4-12 with these sticks, I'm still quite happy with them tho; all 8GBs for $100.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
It's a balancing act, higher divider = lower tref. I'm loving the 1:1. Off to do a quick stability check/tweaking. Thanks, once again. :up:
Just wanted to thank you A-Grey for all your help in this forum! I havn't posted much but I've definately been keeping up with it and using the information posted to really push my system! Thanks for all the hard work, keep pushing it!
I don't know what JEDEC specs are with regard to the highest point for TREF (16383), but with 1:1 scaling, this highpoint is reached at 475/6 FSB. The hex code is 3FFF so to do the change, all one has to do is, using bar edit:
Edit lines:
FED14260, 08 Column to CF3FFF00
FED14660, 08 Column to CF3FFF00
Done. Thanks, Mike and A-Grey for the help.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...MinionX/SS.jpg
My current clocks as of last night :up:
I will post BIOS settings up if someone is curious :cool:
EDIT: BIOS SETTINGS!
ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS 0803 Template
*Extreme Tweaker*
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [08.5]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333Mhz]
FSB Frequency [475]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Frequency [DDR2-1140MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2N]
DRAM CMD Skew on Channal A [Greyed Out]
DRAM CMD Skew on Channal B [Greyed Out]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channal A [Delay 200ps]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channal B [Delay 200ps]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
1st Information
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS# Delay [5]
RAS# PRE Time [5]
RAS# ACT Time [15]
RAS# to RAS# Delay [3]
REF Cycle Time [65]
WRITE Recovery Time [6]
READ to PRE Time [3]
2nd Information
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D) [8]
WRITE to READ Delay (S) [3]
WRITE to READ Delay (D) [5]
READ to READ Delay (S) [4]
READ to READ Delay (D) [6]
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S) [4]
WRITE to WRITE Dealy (D) [6]
3rd Information
WRITE to PRE Delay [14]
READ to PRE Delay [5]
PRE to PRE Delay [1]
ALL PRE to ACT Delay [6]
ALL PRE to REF Delay [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister [STRONGER]
Ai Transation Booster [Manual]
Common Performance Booster [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH2 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH3 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH4 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH5 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHA PH6 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH1 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH2 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH3 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH4 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH5 [Disabled]
Pull-In of CHB PH6 [Disabled]
CPU Voltage [1.2750]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50]
North Bridge Voltage [1.55]
DRAM Voltage [2.00]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.30]
South Bridge Voltage [1.05]
SB 1,5V Voltage [1.50]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Voltage Reference [0.63x]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67x]
DRAM Controller Voltage REF [AUTO]
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF [AUTO]
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF [AUTO]
CPU LED Selection [CPU Voltage]
NB LED Selection [North Bridge Voltage]
SB LED Selection [South Bridge Voltage]
Voltiminder LED [DISABLED]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spred Spectrum [Disabled]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
NB Clock Skew [Normal]
*Advanced settings*
CPU Ratio Setting [08.5]
C1E Support [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [AUTO]
Vanderpool Technology [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Max CPUID Value Limit [Disabled]
Intel(R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech. [Disabled]
How do you clr CMOS on this motherboard?
In the manual, it says to press on the CLR CMOS switch at the rear panel while the system is running?
isn't the correct way, is to shutdown first the computer and then press on this switch?
Ummm yeah, completly power down, then press the clr cmos button....
Hi folks!
This is my first post on XS. Iīm happy that the administrator jupiler solved my problem to activate an account, so I am able to play here in an "upper class team".:clap:
Hopefully somebody can answere my question:
Iīm planing to buy the G.SKill DDR2-RAM PI 4GB Kit DDR2 PC2-9600 (F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI) CL5 to run a PL of 6.
My math calculation for this is:
[tRD- (tCL/N)]>[x/N]. tCL=5, N=memory divider 4:3 at a FSB of 450 MHz, X=2.
Given is [6- {5/(4/3)}]=2,25 that should be greater than [x/(4/3)]=1,5.
The calculation is correct because 2,25>1,5
That means, the PL 6 should run on my system in future.
So far the caculations. But the 0803 bios doesnīt calculate the tREFS correct. No matter what the memory divider is, I always receive 3120T, when it supposed to be 4680T (7800/ (1000/600). I could change it by using memset. But thatīs not the point.
I expect the bios to set the tRFEs correct. Does anybody know, when the asus bios programmers will fix this bug?
Will my system get unstable, when I am running it with wrong tRFES?
I think the wrong tREFS calculation is not a problem of itīs one. It reaches the stability of our systems, wouldnīt it?:down:
PL 6 isn't a problem with the 2 X 2 Giga G.SKILL PC2-9600. I did some testing before sending the memory back for RMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
I tested the good stick with 8 X 450MHz, DRAM 1200MHz 1.8V in the BIOS (1.82V real), PL 6 Ai Clock Twister Moderate, NB 1.33V in the BIOS (1.31V real). I could pass MemTest86+ V2.11 without errors with these settings.
When are the ASUS BIOS programmers going to fix tREF problem in the BIOS?
I have no idea. They aren't in a hurry to fix that. They probably won't fix it at all.:down:
Hey guys - been out of action for quite some time now. Been backtracking and reading back because I've lost all my settings for my QX9650 (d'oh!) for 4.3-4.5Ghz
Originally I had stock watercooling and bugged out ~435FSB with BIOS 0308. Since changing my RAM and cooling though, I seem to have unlocked further FSB - nearly 500! (hurray!)
Anyways, I don't see many posts with the QX9650 - so what's the best BIOS for this chip now? I'm guessing there's been some changes, but back then 0308 was best for memory - don't know if there's much better now?
Hoping to do ~480FSB*9, maybe even 500FSB if it's possible on water? Got over 2x as much cooling power than I did last time where temps maxxed out around 70c :D
~Bex
Could anybody post the BIOS settings for BIOS 803 with OCed Q6600 ? :)
RCG_Bex has an interesting question.
As long as I am using this board, I remember the 0308 bios was the best for my system at all. I squeezed out 1,186 mhz with my OCZ 8500. Only the voltage of 2.31v was too much english for the 24/7 use. So I decided to give up and being satisfied with 1,080 mhz.
The 0308 bios calculated the tREFs at 16,383T which was good for the memory stability.
@A-Grey,
makes it any difference, if Iīll use the blue or the white memory sluts for the G.Skills 9600 ?
Some people say the blue ones are better:confused:
Yeah Adata Extreme 1200's + BIOS 0308 = 1400MHz Stable! :P
I use the white 1s, I always hear how they're meant to be "better" - but no complaints my side on this so......
~Bex
If you want 16383T use MemSet V4.0, save the setting and let it load that timing on system boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
Why do they say that? It's probably the DRAM Clock Fine Delays that makes them say that the blue slots are better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
With DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A/B on Auto you get 4-2-4-2. My OCZ Reapers HPC PC2-8500 like DRAM Clock Fine Delay 4T. Using slots 2 and 4 with DRAM Clock Fine Delay 2T is probably going to give me problems to run my memory at 1117MHz. I could say that slots 1 and 3 are better than 2 and 4. That's ridiculous because all I have to do is set the right DRAM CLK Skews for the slots that I'm going to use.
To answer your question. Once I get those G.SKILL PC2-9600 back from RMA I'm going to use slots 1 and 3 and leave DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A/B on Auto.
Thanks for your reply.
O.K. I will give the G-Skills 9600 a try.
I questioned for "the right memory sluts" because one stick wouldnīt fit with their headspreder under my Thermalright IFX-14. It does not seem to be a question of the right sluts but of the right DRAM Clock Skew settings.
Another quest to MemSet V4.0. Do I get you right, that one time save setting plus load will change the tREFs after the next system boot and so on ?
Once you know what DRAM Clock Fine Delays to use with the Memory it doesn't really matter what slots you use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
Yes, MemSet V4.0 is an excellent program. I hope Felix adds Auto tREF in a next version that calculates tREF according to JEDEC specs for the Memory speed that is used.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
To change tREF and automatically load it on the next boot all you have to do is set the tREF timing you want, apply it and save.
Thank you Alien Grey,
the memset4 job was very simple. I had to change my LCD settings though. MemSet does not like more than 96 dpi but it didnīt matter at all.
I made a cachemem test with Everest like you can see on the screenshot.
The "read" seems to be a little better by the 16383T tREFs now - not to mention the stability that Iīll have to check up now.
With the best regards
FRITZ
The left one is with 16383T. The right one with the 3120T. Both made on WinXP OS.
Just cut out the part you want like I did with the picture of MemSet or make it a little smaller and higher jpeg compression.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ
Any particular reason that my L2 cache in the Everest benchmark is pretty slow in comparison to others?
A copy of a post that I made on the ASUS Rampage Formula Forum.
It looks like the CPU and NB Clock Skew didn't help to get rid of that random reboot I'm experiencing in Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit edition.
What I know is that it isn't caused by the CPU. I would see that on the results in BOINC for the packages that I'm working on.
It's probably something with the memory timings in Linux but that's difficult to find out because of the lack of decent programs like EVEREST Ultimate Edition for Windows.
So, I asked again to the ASUS Global Tech Support to do something about tREF in the BIOS. I would be very happy with a tREF timing in the BIOS. Something like tREF on Auto (Disabled) and Enabled. On Auto (Disabled) 3120T like it is now and Enabled a tREF calculation according to JEDEC specs.
(7.8 x 1000) / (1000 / DRAM MHz)
Example: 1066MHz
(7.8 x 1000) / (1000 / 533) = 4157 -> tREF 4160T
They are going to look what the problem is with EIST showing to be enabled in EVEREST Ultimate Edition and what is wrong with tRTP. The tRTP timing in EVEREST Ultimate Edition is 5T and not 3T like in the BIOS. It's confusing because there is a timing in the BIOS tRTPD that is 5T.
Hey all, is there gonna be a noticible performance difference from going from a Q6600 to a X3360 on this board??? I know the 45nm stuff runs cooler, and also has 12mb cache, but other than that???? I'm tryin to hold out on the I7 stuff till it gets cheaper....:cool:
By the way Greg got him self a new CPu and he is happy as a child in a store with free gooooodies. Just waiting for him to update with his results..
Quote:
Originally Posted by neo_rtr
OMFG!!! I had for one hole mfyear this QX9650 piece of mfcrap and i was mftrying to find the right mfvolts, skews, mews, chews, and what the fcukever ..ew there is in the hole mfworld :shocked::rofl:
And one fine day i found one fine guy who wanted to buy my mfcrapqx9650:rofl:.......and he bought it :rofl: AND then i went to a fine store and bought my Q9650. This took place yesterday and i have to say that my oclife begun, YESTERDAY just look here:
By the way with 0803 i needed higher vcore than with 0701 so i got back to the second one because i was scared that i would damage my new cpu with setting vcore to 1.26750 :rofl::rofl: instead of 1.2500:rofl::rofl:
.......and all that with llc enabled without having any problem at the moment. Guys idont now what to say This chip is the best i ever had. I cant believe what its capable of. It:slapass: :rofl::rofl:
It's a wise decision from you to use BIOS 0701 instead of BIOS 0803. You can't believe how much faster CPU degradation would kick in with 0.01750V higher voltage.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
When you are saying that you need more vcore with BIOS 0803, is that for Prime95 or IntelBurnTest?
Is there a reason that you use PL8 and not PL7?
JEDEC is not wrong neither is the proposed tREF.Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
But are you running your memory timings in full JEDEC compatibility?
Unless you are not overclocking :D
Think that changing from 5-5-5-15 to 5-5-5-14 you are out of JEDEC.
Same goes to tREF .... try whatever is faster AND stable :yepp:
What are you trying to say? That a static 3120T as tREF that we have now with the ASUS Rampage Formula is following JEDEC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
It should at least follow the spd timings and than tREF should be at 4160T for my memory at 1066MHz and not 3120T.
Try what ever is faster and stable isn't good because ASUS doesn't care if it's faster and stable. It's stable with 3120T and that is good enough for them.
So, if we can't have larger static tREF timing in the BIOS because 3120T and 800MHz is standard they should at least make it possible in the BIOS for us to have the tREF timing that we need for the memory speed that we are using.
When your still not satisfied with that there is always MemSet or Bar_Edit to change it to a higher value.
That's how I see it and perhaps I see it wrong.:shrug:
It was with prime95 that i got errors. But here is something strange, with:Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
vcore:1.25
cpupll:1.5
fsb: 1.4
nb: 1.41
ram: 2.1
llc:enabled
everything else auto
and
475x8.5@1140, 5-5-5-15, pl7
i could do 5 passes @ intelburntest and when i tried to load and play:D crysi wars my system did freeze:confused: I tried different(higher) volts @ vcore, nb, fsb, ram, cpu-nb-gtls, but got the same freezes. Tried also with 470fsb, pl8, pl9 and it went a little bit better but in the end i got freezes again.:mad: After that i got back to 450x9@1080 and everything was running smoothe again.
Im not sure but i think the problem might be my memory or whatelse?
I have somewhere 2x1g 1200mhz kingston modules. Ill trie
to find them and give them a try.
Any suggestions?
IntelBurnTest isn't a reliable source for stability. Especially with the FSB Termination Voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
Give the extreme stability:D test a try like I do. Download Unreal Tournament 2004 demo. Let it run in a window 1024x768 pixels (or something like that) with maximum quality. Choose Game rules Set goal score and time limit to 0 (infinity). Choose spectate and let it run for a few hours if you can with Prime95.
The problem EIST showing up enabled in EVEREST Ultimate Edition isn't a problem with the BIOS but a software problem with EVEREST Ultimate Edition.
It's like I thought and ASUS confirms it.
http://hosting03.imagecross.com/imag...97DSCF0066.JPG
http://hosting03.imagecross.com/imag...41DSCF0068.JPG
Was kinda bored and constructed this with my board :) Had the spare DFI sink lying about as I replaced it with a Thermalright HR05 SLI/IFX cooler and have a 80x25mm fan on it!
DFI LT X48-T2R Thermalright NB heat sink, Thermalright HR-09U VRM sink on IO side, modified RF VRM sink with heatpipe removed (temp till i pick up hr-09s for there), and SB sink replaced with copper SB sink off some base board.
Nice modification.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyakame
I've got a Thermalright HR-05 IFX to cool the SB with 80x80x25 fan and for the mosfets a Thermalright HR-09U and a HR-09S.
I was going to go the HR09U on the DFI board to replace OE vr sink but i ran into a hitch, my TRUE with push pull, ( 25mm push, 38mm pull ) doesnt clear the hr-09u when its secured! so im stuck with DFI black sink!Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Grey
@mikeyakame
Nice mod, have start it up yet and checked the NB temp?
I run my NB in the same waterloop as the CPU, NB got nice and cool temp with water even with high volt. :yepp:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...Formula/RF.jpg
Got 8 pieces of Enzotech BMR-C1 on the mosfet and CNB-S1L on the SB, working really good.:yepp:
http://www.enzotechnology.com/images/bmr-c1.jpg
http://www.enzotechnology.com/images/cnb_s1l.jpg
Be careful with these heavy cooper ramsinks on the mosfets. In the past it destroyed one 8800GTX by falling off. Personally i would go with some light aluminum ones...
Need some help.
Got a Qx9650 and it's been able to boot up into Windows and run fairly stable with the following settings
420*10,
333 strap,
PCIE 101
cpu @ 1.375 (tried up to 1.4v)
pll @ 1.5
NB @ 1.39v
ram @ 2-2.10
vtt 1.32
0.63%
0.67%
- tried RAM with all sorts of settings etc
Trouble is, Prime95 either fails on core 3, or if I drop down prime95 just stops responding. Don't know if it's a Windows 7 bug or not.... not really sure what to tweak tbh. Tried OCCT too, and it does the same after ~15mins :(
~Bex
They have been there for more then 6 month and are still firm in place but thank you anyway, Iīve it mind though.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
You probably need more nb and vtt juice, after all you run 4870X2 crossfire (if sig is right) and a quad.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCG_Bex
What bios do you run?
I did some test run with my Q9650@450 4,05GHz 4x2 ram@1080 555 15 tRD7 Strong with bios 802, no problem.
Donīt remember my setting, Iīm at work now, gonna check later when I get home and post my setup.
Check out Zucker2k post
@RCG_Bex,
first of all I would give 1,49v to the NB, 1,36vtt and run prime95 again.
Maybe the Ai Clock Twister should be cut down to moderate.
What are running with prime95, the large ffts, the small ones, blend or what the h***?
Hereīs my Q9650@450 4,05GHz 4x2 ram@1080 555 15 tRD7 Strong with bios 0802.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCG_Bex
Q9650 E0 VID 1,2375 Batch L824B301
4x2 OCZ Reaper PC8500 ver3
Windows 7 beta 64bit
The rest as in my Gaming Rig
Itīs stable with 50 loop LinX (5+hrs, max problem size and max memory use), 6hrs with four instances of P95 blend. Is it stable or what. :rofl: :ROTF:
Itīs not an over the hill OC but itīs a decent 24/7 OC setup in my opinion. :yepp:
Important bios settings in the pics.
If you donīt push for low tRD you may lower your NBvolt.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...004x2108-2.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...04x2108055.jpg
Good luck :up:
Quote:
Originally Posted by RCG_Bex
Take a look here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1618
Zucker2k had completely right!! I couldnt believe that my expensive qx9650 was the real problem...I tried everything but i always had similar problems with you. I rmaed my old qx9650 and get a new one hopping that i could run easily @ 4.0 BUT..... NOTHING, the same problems were still there:mad:
Finally i took Zuckers2k advice and sold this mf piece of :banana::banana::banana::banana: qx9650 and bought one Q9650:yepp::yepp:
Now im in love with this......... i have no words i really couldnt believe that there would be such a HUGE difference:D
Now im in testing period but for the moment i run @ 9x450 @ 1080, 5-5-5-15, prime stable with vcore 1.256 under load , nb 1.35, fsb 1.32(bios) 1.23 real and my dominator @2.0v