I can confirm no EIST for any multiplier except 9.
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Originally Posted by 6_6_6
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I can confirm no EIST for any multiplier except 9.
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Originally Posted by 6_6_6
When you set CPU multi other than the default, EIST is automaticaly disabled by bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6_6_6
I'm running at FSB 450 and 1,6V so that the CPU to be stable and the temps reach 70-75 degrees at full load.
I see that you have a quad. The 65nm quad needs water cooling or better to be able to work at that frequencyes.
45nm quad has lower temps, so it can reach higher frequencyes than 65nm, with the same cooling.
Read this
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...res/index.html
Yes, that is what I was asking. I couldn't find references to it so I had to find out about it by myself.
I do have water cooling -- albeit a fanless one. I had water cooling last 8 years. When I am testing my setup to see how far it can go, I blow 2 x 120mm fans at 12v to my radiator and I keep pump pressure at max in order to eliminate heat issues. So that is not a problem at the moment. At present, I can run 3.0 GHz with ample amount of temperatures to go. I can run 3.2 GHz @1.35v but my temps max out in 1 hour of prime. So I can say that I can safely run 3.2 GHz without difficulty. I haven't used an application that maxes out all for cores for 1 hour nonstop, so no probs there.
I can't do more than 1.45v without active cooling. And at 1.45v, my temps max out in 5 mins of prime. So that is not an option.
Thanks for hte link. Reading it now.
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Originally Posted by ChrissTi
Could I also ask what effect would increasing the FSB from 266MHz to 333MHz or 400MHz on a SATA drive?
It will work a litle faster, not too much, but a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6_6_6
There are people here running bus over 500Mhz with the new dual core at 45nm :)
I was actually talking about data corruption. What would be the likelihood of that?
I don't think folks running their systems at max care a lot about data integrity.
For one thing, on a very stable oced system (Q6600 @ 3.0 GHz, days of torture tests, prime, orthos, occt, memtest, 3dmark, etc)... I found a corrupt frame in a video I edited. Editing the same video on stock settings did not cause corruption. It was a random check, but it made me nervous. I do work with databases... And i would not want random errors appearing in them coming back to bite me in the butt days or months after coz they probably would propagate to all backups.
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Originally Posted by ChrissTi
EIST does not seem to be activated at any multiplier when manual voltage is selected. It only works with default (NORMAL). I tried all C1E, TM2, EIST one by one, two by two, etc with 9 x 370 @ 1.3750v but voltage is always constant and software is reporting it is not enabled. Can someone please confirm this?
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Originally Posted by OM DUST
I am on water cooling , I forgot to mention this.
I run mine (see sig) as a 24/7 editing rig without any probs. I do use 1.10v on SB and 1.58v on SB 1.5 for SATA RAID 0 @ 500FSB but on 1:1 for stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6_6_6
If I was doing more serious work, I would use a lesser profile for that as well as ECC RAM wich my ASUS X38 does support but timings are less, but safer.
Does the DQ6 offer ECC DDR option?
I can confirm that. :) If the voltage will modify you will have big surprises, like instability. Before F8c bios I had stability problems at FSB 450.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6_6_6
Is not the mobo that offers that option, is the chipset. X38 is supporting ECC, and non ECC memo, X48 suports only non ECC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Thanks ChrissTi.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
So EIST works only when no vcore is set -- simply meaning that when there is no overclocking in most cases.
Why hasn't this been mentioned at anywhere? Why do people advise for turning EIST off during overclocking and turning it back on once a stable oc is achieved if EIST is not even working with oc in the first place?
I tried ECC before and I wasn't happy with it. It is not necessary for me. RAM is pretty stable as it is and few random errors would not make a big difference in my life or in my work... As for CPU, RAM and all the other hardware where data does not reside, I am not worried. If it broke, replace it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
But I would like to know the consequences of running the system with a higher FSB... I don't mind if the hard drive gets corrupted and does not boot, does not spin, etc... I can fix/replace it. But I would mind if every so few bytes of files were corrupted randomly since I would not be finding about out that right away. And when I find out about that, there would be no way of quantifying how much data was corrupted.
How much standard voltage is on SB? What is SB 1.5?
A part of EIST works. The multi drops when idle, and up when underload. So when it is idle, it consumes less power, meaning CPU temp drops.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6_6_6
Thats why.:)
Well, if you system is stable when running Prime or Orthos for all cores, and another application like winamp so that the CPU load to be for real full, you will get no file corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6_6_6
Higher FSB means higher temperatures, so you will need better cooling, otherwise it's a risk to burn some components, especialy the CPU.
Chris, I don't think that is accurate. EIST is totally disabled.
The one that works is C1E as nucking_futs explained. That is what drops the multi down. Dropping the multi down without voltage has no effect on my system except a 1-2C on cpu temps. Heat increases exponentially with voltage and linear with speed. So without voltage drop, not much of a difference here. I was under the same impression with you about EIST until nucking_futs explained previously.
Here is an example:
3.0 GHz no voltages (25C ambient)
[nb, cpu, gpu, hd]
36 61 54 39 load temps 2h prime
36 35 48 35 (NO EIST) idle: 30m cool down from load
39 32 46 32 (EIST) idle: 30m cool down from load
EIST brings down temps 3C on every component. But it increases NB temp by 3C.
3.2 GHz @ 1.35v (25C ambient)
40 69 55 41 load temps 1h prime (cpu temp maxed out)
37 40 50 37 (NO C1E) idle: 30m cool down from load
34 39 49 36 (C1E) idle: 30m cool down from load
C1E brings down temps 1C on each component except NB where the decrease is 3C.
I don't like EIST, it makes my system less responsive. So I have it disabled anyway. C1E does not seem to affect temps much. So I have it disabled too.
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Originally Posted by ChrissTi
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Originally Posted by ChrissTi
Thanks. That is the theory but those test ram/cpu... Does not initiate hd activity. Am I wrong?
No but if there are errors, those errors can be written on hdd, and even in bad sectors ...
hi shoot me some p.m's and i will try to help you outQuote:
Originally Posted by CyberDruid
I crunch 24/7 with this on phase at high clocks
I always disable EIST but leave everything else enabled...i knew from many a bios ago that once you overclock or alter FSB or alter default CPU voltage the bios automatically disables the option in bios anyways.
It disappears from the bios menu, so for a long time i have disbaled it BEFORE i start to overclock.
there was some mention of that DES feature
dynamic energy saver
i don't think it works if your system is overclocked
only with stock settings :)
It's pretty useless for us then isin't it Dinos? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Besides...it only works with the "E" family of mobos.
On a side note...the new 00NLR5 Raptors show no difference in raw numbers compared to my older 00NLR1 drives, but they do seems quieter.
basically :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Thermalright HR-05 / IFX and Thermalright HR-05 SLI / IFXQuote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
the version without IFX is more narrow IFX is a lot beeter if Passive method withou any fan is used
I just got this board. I have problems going over 490Mhz fsb, I hav'nt seen anybody go over 500Mhz with board, feel a bit disapointed as my asus pk5 did 560x9 easily with my E8400 with a mach2 SS. Have read that F3 bios has the best fsb capability, can anyone confirm? i'm using F6.
Also can anyone share bios settings for max fsb.
Thanks
This is partly true. Keep in mind though, it is upto the builder to utilize it and some do not. Just as X48 can by design utilize ECC but is currently locked by Intel but potentially (not for sure) can be cracked by a builder (like ASUS) to unlock that, just like they did for PAT and PRB for Springdale !865PE and PRB for new !925XE Elderwood. Here again, Intel made efforts to lock chipset for CPU to PCI/PCIE lock limiting the FSB overclock. But ASUS cracked it, remember!Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
All the other test can pass with colors, but YES, data corruption can still happen if too many hard lock ups and crashes. These synthetic benchmarks do not test HDD R/W so make sure they too have enough juice to stay smooth. I use at least 1.58v on SB 1.5 and 1.104v on SB 2 to 500FSB on my ASUS. They just need to be kept cool like anything else cause this carries the ICH9R and thats where our DATA crosses if on the Intel AHCI/RAID. I this mobo offers some sort of FSB static read control, enable it to smooth out the CPU to NB strapping curve of mobo as it climbs the higher FSB beyond 450. This will alos help in getting few more MHz FSB out of CPU as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6_6_6
The simplest rule is to keep CPU/RAM ratio simple. 1:1 or 1:2. Anything inbetween is not as stable when OC'd. P35, X38/X48 are finicky with out of sync CPU/RAM dividers since the chipset was origionally based on test for DDR3 with different timing control.
I never suggest using EIST under an OC system. It is already slower then TM2+C1E so it becomes less responsive as you up the system FSB since it uses the system FSB to function and thus is an added bottleneck in bus traffic. TM+C1E will at least allow TM1+C1E mode so you do get the multi step down but not the cvore. Mine always drop just enough to matter if on all day and also takes up some of the stress on NB and MCH, so overall system can drop some in temp.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6_6_6
Nuckin_Futs, I didn't say you suggested that. To the contrary, I have mentioned that I learnt how it all works now thanks to you. What I mean was that I have read everywhere else (reviews, posts, etc) that EIST should be disabled before OC and once stable, it should be enabled. I read nowhere that EIST would not work on when manual vcore is selected WHICH IS HOW OC IS DONE 99% of the cases!
I also do not recall anyone making a distinction between EIST and C1E/TM2. I thought C1E would not function without EIST until you explained.
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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
has any one tried the differant memory slots to see if they vary in stability and performance? I know that other boards this can play a part in this area.
@ 6_6_6,
Oops! Sorry, I may have worded it wrong, I didn't mean to imply you said that per say, just in general is all.
i always do thatQuote:
Originally Posted by REVHEAD
on DDR3 boards i've had unfortunately there were some big discrepancies and the slots that ran RAM really well could not be combined to run in dual channel :(
asus board i had ran RAM very similar in all slots :shrug:
X38-DQ6 supports no ECC, and ECC memos, it's on Intel and Gigabytes's site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
X48 doesn't, it's on Intel's site.
I tested with EIST and without it when I overclocked, and there are no benchmark differences, so what you said is not true. So I use EIST on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
I have personally experienced this problem, not with SATA but with SCSI. I overclocked the PCI bus, and everything ran stable for a few days, but after some extended period of time, my system became noticeably unstable. I had previously done some burn-in testing at the overclocked configuration, but apparently I didn't do it long enough. In the end, I figured out the SCSI adapter/drives were slowly being corrupted. I'd get a bad bit every few hours. over time, this accumulated in files/data.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6_6_6
In the end, I backed down the PCI bus, reformatted and reinstalled the OS, then everything was fine.
what settings were you at when this happened I use scsi too and have yet to see this problem, the computer is on 24/7 crunchingQuote:
Originally Posted by ubiquityman
I can safely confirm there there is no sort of data corruption when PCI-E is set to 100 MHz.
Last 1 week i have misused and abused my hard disk on live system (I have a clone disk).
2008 Server Enterprise x64
X38-DQ6
Q6600
Samsung 500GB SATA-II
AHCI
I had countless BSODs, reboots, crashes, system freezes playing with OC settings, benching, stress testing, etc. I intentionally did not even do a single chkdsk. I had torture tests running on my disk for hours while doing PGP file shredding, winzips, md5sums simultaneously. Yes the hard disk sounded as if it was going to explode as it was madly seeking!
Today I booted into stock settings and did md5 comparisons. All files matched.
Voltages I mostly used was vcore 1.35v, ddr +0.25, gMCH +0.05.
So I guess it is safe to use 100MHz PCI-E and not worry sinister corruption issues if the system is CPU/Memory/GPU stable.
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Originally Posted by ubiquityman
I just ordered the EX38-DQ6. Right now I will be running it with 4gb of G.Skill PC8000 and a Q6600. How does 8gb run on this board?
Of course there would be no benchmark differences. You are using your CPU at full power in the benchmarks -- EIST is not a relevant item there. It is relevant when the system is idle -- not when you are hitting the roof.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
I don't like EIST. It makes my system unresponsive to a degree that I can notice. Most of the time it would run at throttled down speeds since programs do not usually take up too much cpu cycles.
For example, I can easily notice a delay when I am scrolling down my start menu with EIST.
CPUs come with 5 year warranty and they are meant to run at their advertised speeds. What is the point of running it throttled down? I have shown above that EIST does not help temps -- only 2 degrees max... And that comes down with a penalty of 3C increased NB temperature.
And you are not running any EIST at all since you are already overvolting your CPU! You are running C1E. It works slightly better for me, but it is of no use since it does not lower vcore. Heat increases linear with cpu speed and exponentially with voltage. Anyway, even that is a moot point in your benchmarks since you are running at full throttle. Please reread what _futs wrote before. I was having hte same opinions like you until he clarified that.
I was especially reffering to SCSI devices, and I too use each a Promise and the Intel ICHxR on SB. So if for most of us utilizing even the AHCI/RAID on Intel ICH9R, you do need to up the SB volts a tad to keep stable. I notice it performs smooth on Intel SATA RAID 0+1 at only 1.10v and 1.55~1.58v on the SB_1.5.Quote:
Originally Posted by ubiquityman
I also can get away with a PCI-E bus to 110 w/ NB of 1.5v to 500FSB so it just depends. You should run some sort of HDD utility to find what does best.
EIST: It can be used on certain CPU's and mild overclocks with some stability, but at aslight responsiveness drop during stepping. For X38, & P35 400FSB is pretty much a stock FSB, so if you have a new 1333FSB CPU then full auto with EIST is doable if BIOS allows. I only know of Abit & DFI (at least the P35 "Blood Iron") to be stable at 400 with CPU to auto and enabled EIST. Abit also fullly supports C1E+TM2, technically reffered to as C+P state (not limited TM1) so the VID+FID reduce together.
i doubt you can run 4 sticks on this boardQuote:
Originally Posted by TyphooN
i couldt get 4 sticks stable @ 800mhz
i can do 1200+ on the dfi
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Originally Posted by TyphooN
8 GB 800 Without problems 1066+ can be problematic a bit
What are the changes in the new EX linups of these boards? I cant really see much .
EPU
so in other words
Nothing
Hi all
I'm new to here, and I need some help. I have a nice config, but it's unstable even at stock speed and with "fail-safe" BIOS settings also. I have run Prime95 and MemTest86+ tests for ten hours without any problem but the Windows itself is unstable (Vista and XP tested). 3DMark likes to cause the display driver not to respond. In XP this means a freeze, but Vista show me a hint message to the right bottom corner that the display driver didn't respond but restarted successfully.
Sometimes I meet similar messages with the integrated network and audio driver also. It seems the motherboard (or the intel chipset on it) is unstable but I have no ide how to find out what's wrong. Can you help me? Thank you.
edit: BIOS F7 and F8D has the same result
I just preordered the Q9450....but is €308 a good price??
Where?Quote:
Originally Posted by TyphooN
neweggQuote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Hrmm.. I probably won't need to go past 1000 due to my cpu.. Does anyone here run 8gb regularly?? I am have 4gb of the g.skill pc8000 ram.. its pretty cheap and if I could get it to run at at least 1000 I would be happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kondik
I have that same RAM and she is running 1080 5-5-5-15 2.10 without any problems. I hear that the new PC8500 does also stock timings at 1200 without problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by TyphooN
I guess I should have stated my question better, what I meant was if I could get it to run at 1000+ with 4x2GB I would be happy, but thanks for the response anyhow :).
i have the X38-DS4, so i think its ok to post my issue in this thread.
I just got my second 3870 for crossfire. Now my OC is unstable (445x9), resulting in hard lock ups. Stock clocks are fine, so my guess is the NB need more voltage, agree?
i have no idea what in bios to change for the NB voltage, any suggestions will be appreciated!
Ok, I get it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TyphooN
I guess that with proper cooling you might get it to run stable.
You need to rise the FSB VOLTAGE OVERCONTROL on your M.I.T. BIOS section.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy16
You might also want to try rising the (G)MCH OVERVOLTAGE CONTROL, which is the memory controller bus.
Thanks man!Quote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
i upped the G MCH only, i set it to +0.025. Its alot more stable, im going to run some tests and see if it need another small bump :up:
Sure dude, good luck :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy16
Thanks
i played crysis for about 30minutes, then crysis got the "not responding".. not sure if its a coincidence or not. Im going to run orthos or OCCT for a couple hours later on and see if i need to set it to +0.05v instead of +0.025v.
Is 50c fine for the "board" temp?
Hmmm, 50C for the northbridge is perhaps too high. I get 31 ~ 33C on average on my X38-DQ6. Do you have proper cooling inside he case? NB with a bit of overvoltage tends to get quite hot. Ensure you have good airflow over that area of the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy16
50c is on full load such as an hour of crysis. Its about 33c doing normal tasks..
Is that fine? i do have a side fan that blow on the video cards, so that also give the nb some airflow.
Hi all first post here :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
I find it hard to believe your NB doesn't get warmer than 33C, unless you have watercooling or something better.
The problem here is that, atleast my X38 DQ6, shows 2 temps for mobo. And afaik hardwaremonitor is one of the very few tools showing me the 2nd temp aswell. 1st temp is like Crusader described idle it's ~28C stressed it's max 35C after few hours gaming. This I think is the temp of the heatpipe somewhere ???
Now 2nd temp in hardwaremonitor is more likely the NB, mine shows 28C idle, and around 55C fully stressed for a few hours. And yeh the NB gets fairly hot on the x38 DQ6. I have a 92mm scythe fan cooling NB and mostfets heatsinks on mine now.
Oh, if that's after full load then it's pretty normal. I misunderstood and thought that it was on idle :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy16
That's not far from what i'm getting aswell: 33C idle and 50 ~ 55 under full load. I get my readings from Everest as it is perhaps the only program that doesn't give me totally messed up readings. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kojo
I'm also using a Cooler Master CM690 case with 5 120mm fans (2 front intake + 2 outtake side panel + 1 outtake back). It works great for case airflow :)
Will the current F8d beta support the Q9450??
Realtek 889A codec drivers, version 1.88:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false
DQ6 has no Northbridge temp sensor, the temp it shows is the case temp, the seconed on is the cpu mobo temp sensor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
I have no clue where gigabyte has located the case sensor. For the old ds4 it was above the first pcie slot.
WTH?! Are you sure about that? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Then how will I be able to get NB temps?
Guys, something strange is hapening with my X38T-DQ6.
When setting vcore over 1.4v it becomes very unstable, raising the voltage instead of drooping it, but still ocasionaly dropping it down...
My QX6700 works flawlesly at 3.2GHz with only 1.28v, and needs about 1.42v for 3.6GHz.
At 3.2GHz everything is ok, I get about 1.31v vcore idle and 1.28v full (1.3750v set in the BIOS).
But to get 1.42v I need to set about 1.55v, I get about 1.44v idle but when I run the CPU at 100% the vcore goes crazy, varying from 1.41v to as high as 1.52v!
I'd like to know if anyone else have seen the same, or if my board is bad... :(
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Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
plain and simple:
its not possible to read it out with software.
you can masure it with a ir/laser temperature gun or attach a sensor to the heatsink, but both methods will not give you a 100% accurate temp, but they get really close.
So, no onboard sensors that can be read with software? Is this something exclusive to Gigabyte boards?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Just received a EX38-DQ6. Not sure what the difference is between the EX38 and the X38. Anyone know?
Its suppose to save energy i think, but once you start overclocking which disables most of the energy saving features.. I'd imagine its no different :shrug:
EX38 lacks that crappy Molex connector on the PCB (thank god), adds LEDs for overclocking. The PCB hasn't changed that much at all...but if you had the X38 and EX38 side by side and examined closely i'm sure you'd notice things.
GB said they were revising the trace paths, making them shorter/more efficient.
The EX38 looks more like a rev 2 X38 DQ6 than a new board in its own right.
Can't say I'm amused by the way the X38 has been made obsolete so quickly and then replaced by the same board with very minor revisions to it, and branded a new board.
The way I see it, X38-DQ6 is still an awesome board (even with its small flaws) and I'm not switching to another (GB or whatever) anytime soon. I still wanna try one of the new Quads with it and see how far it goes. :)
I agree with the view that its a great board.
Mine runs very stable and has a lot of ports which I tend to use most of.
I've now cranked my Q6600 up to 3.8 24/7 100% stable, and the memory is running at 1125 5-4-4-13
Only issue I now have is sometimes after it shuts down, it goes into boot cycle at power up, when that happens I need to switch psu off for a few seconds. This only happens about 20% of the time, and I can live with that easily enough.
I'm waiting to get a new core 2 quad in mine but so far the setup is better than anything I've used before.
Hornet331, thank you for the information. I was under the wrong impression that first temp measurement was for northbridge.
I have no fans in my system. I have not experienced any instability so far at 3.2 GHz 8x400 and I have done extensive stress testing for days. I havent paid much attention to nb since its temps seemed normal under heavy stress testing. Apparently I had no idea.
I have only 1.35v, +0.25v DDR2, +0.05 gMCH. I have not set any voltages for FSB.
I wonder what is happenning to my northbridge. When do you think this is going to explode?
I was going to get Asus Maximus but it was not available then. I wish I had waited.
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Originally Posted by Hornet331
with decent airflow around the nb you can even go 1.6V (+0.325) and the nb is still ok, but i wouldn't do it without a extra fan for 24/7. ;)
I don't have any airflow around it AT ALL. Let's see when this will explode then!
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Originally Posted by Hornet331
CPU-Z, version 1.44.2 beta:
http://rapidshare.com/files/95634677/cpuz.zip.html
I also agree this is an awesome board. Im using the F6 bios (not the best for FSB) and was still able to run superpi32m @ 505x9 (on air). Im going to flash to F3 which seems was the best for FSB. I was able to hit 525x9 and boot into windows but spi1m would error on 5th loop (did this @ 1.55v bios, 1.48v actual).
When I get my QX6850 ES on Wens Im gonna do some action with the F5H/F5G bios. This is supposedly the best for a quadcore right?
CoreTemp 0.97.1 is out:
Version 0.97.1 - 7th March, 2008
- Fix: Phenom did not display proper temperature in version 0.97.
- Fix: Phenom randomly reports 255C (value ignored).
- Fix: Phenom displays more than a single system tray icon per CPU.
- Fix: Phenom 1/4 multipliers rounded improperly.
- Change: C° and F° now will display °C and °F accordingly.
GA-X38-DQ6 -- F8 Bios version :)
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=2665
Does it work with Vista 64 yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Yep been using it since the weekend, works great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
Best bios for me sofar. Wasn't able to use alot of multi's with my e2160 +4x1G. D9GMH, now it's all very smooth... 1066+ tRD5 :PQuote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
This SUCKS!! :mad: why no support for the Q9450 in bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
What the hell am i supposed to do if my CPU arrives and bios dosen't support it?????????? :mad: :mad: :mad:
:(
GB driver page got updated, nothing i haven't linked to already though:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=2665
I wanna bet it's going to work just fine ....else I'll just be mad as hell with you :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Did you read somewhere that it doesn't support it ? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
F8 works great for me too! I guess this board is finally getting mature :)
I guess I will have to give F8 a whirl. What type of improvments have you guys noticed over earlier BIOS?
F8 sucks!!!!...the 2.50A multi no longer works...tried everything and it wont POST any longer. I have to use 2.40B multi but my memory is now running at 1020MHz as opposed to 1063MHz!!!!
Thanks GB...idiots.
I didn't read anywhere that it DOES support the Q9450...why, did you?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
CPU support list does not list the Q9450 as being supported.
Regarding the EX38-DQ6, strangely enough, I drove a Prius for the first time last week when I rented a vehicle in Los Angeles.
IMHO, the EX38-DQ6 and the dynamic power saving is somewhat analogous to driving a Prius.
It's interesting to watch the system clock up and clock down, with what looks like dynamic adjustment of both clock and voltage.
Power is getting pretty costly, but in terms of computing costs, it's still pretty small. Where I'm at, electricity is about 3.3 cents per kWh, a 50W reduction in power (if that is even possible with this mobo), running 7/24 equates to only $14.25/year. Not really that significant, but I don't know yet what the maximum reduction would be. (I doubt it would be more than 50W though) I have a Kill-A-Watt meter, so I will be trying that in the near future when the system is overclocked to see how it does with dynamic power reduction.
I'm still trying to get my system together right now so I haven't starting overclocking yet. Originally, I put my 4-drive Matrix RAID10 + RAID5 array onto the DQ6, but it didn't boot from the array properly, so I had to create a new array. This time, I didn't bother with the RAID5, but just did RAID 10.
Strangely after I installed Windows, something happened (not sure what), but it appeared like I lost 2 drives. There were 2 drives that if connected to the Intel SATA on the mobo, would cause the mobo not to boot. However, connected to the purple JMICRON SATA ports was no problem at all.
So, I connected those drives to the JMICRO SATA, reformatted. Updated the BIOS to version F2, moved the drives back to the Intel SATA and everything is working again. So I'm going to try to create the RAID10 array and then restore my backup.
It takes several hours each time, so each night I can do 1 run at this. Hopefully, I can get my system fully restored, then I will try overclocking.
It doesn't mean that it doesn't support it. Q9450 it's just like QX9650 and QX9770, with multi locked to 8x, and Q9550 with multi locked to 8,5 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Well, i need to SEE the CPU being listed as supported to be sure/safe.
DK - What are you doing with your current C2Q 6600?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDK
2.5A works just fine here. Obviously they keep changing alot of stuff, and various types of memory will require different settings to compensate. My understanding is they actually FIXED 2.5A.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
There still seems to be some very strange behavior in how the BIOS determines TRD though.
For some reason, some straps seem to only allow the lowest possible TRD at CL4, not CL5. Fairly counter-intuitive imo...
F7 -> Update CPU ID (Support IntelŪ Yorkfield CPU)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
All Q9xxx's are yorkfields therefore the Q9450 is supported...
Should i update my bios, i'm not having any problems with the version i have.. Would there be any gain from it?
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=2736
I'm using F1 still (X38-DS4)
Would it be worth the trouble? :shrug:
The power saving may not be much but its something, think about it in equation to all the computer users in the world, the savings would be tremendous.Quote:
Originally Posted by ubiquityman
At the end of the day it shows that Manufacturers are slowly making an effort to curb greenhouse gases. Eventually we will all have to play taxes on the emmitiones each individual puts out.
Bit of a gimmick I reckon! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by REVHEAD