My DFI has flatlined my redline....

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Originally Posted by madpete

eve2000,

Issue with Enermax and DFI? I must have missed that one, whats that all about then? Although I will grant you that my volts seem a bit more wobbley than I'd like.

As it happens I have one of these: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/produc...hp?show=T85SSI
being delivered early next week, so I guess we will find out if theres a prob.

I also tried the ram in another pc (Abit mobo) @ default everything and it still wouldn't post (good stick would), i am pretty sure this ram is badly damaged some how.

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You wont beable to use the 4vdimm jumper with that P/S.. I know cause i've had 2 of them now and i've givin up on the thing and returned it!

Low voltages all around and it was'nt enough juice for my 4 DD 12v water pumps pumps. It would'nt turn on. Tech support made me a addapter so i could run some extra 12v crap off the 8 pin connector and it was crazy unstable. I ended up having to run 2 power supplies just to run my cooling. Not what i wanted to do with a 500 dollar P/S. You would think an 950WATT max powe supply would do it but since its like 4 small 200 watt 12v rails at 17amps, its not enough to power my beast.

Infact i even noticed my graphics having that overheating look with messed up pixles an all and i thought it was the cards overheating.. But i guess it was just that they werent getting enough juice is all.. I know this now after going back to my 700 watt zippy with an extra Power supply for the pumps.. Its even hotter in the room and there fine now.

What you need is a Zippy with a LARGE 12v rail..

what dimm # when it happened?

:caution:i got my LOVELY twinmos utt killed couple days ago at dimm #3 (yellow) - 1 stick (out of 2) - happened after flashing bios and shut down,clear cmos etc... turn on.. flat line ------------------------------------------------------------------------

:caution:my friend got his twinmos SP killed about 2 week ago at dimm #4 (orange) - 1 stick (out of 2) - running @ 3.4v -- suddenly one day decided do not want to boot...

both @ 5v jp

now im running with jp modified "bigtoe" way, 1x512 :( because my vendor out of stock of utt chips... only psc chip (code CADT) :sad:

too bad DFI made such a powerful board, now it seems it back fired...

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

Can't confirm - running 3,72Vdimm from 5-V rail for more than 3 month without any problem...........

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carefull there m8 , im okay for about 4 month also with 5v rail,running almost 24/7 :D .. maybe 24/6 .. (whatever...) :P ... not its happening in the 5th...

:caution: spooky sounds playing :caution:

muahahahaha *sinister laughter*

<< back to normal voice >>

seriously, DFI should fixed/solve/find this problem :hrhr:

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Originally Posted by madpete

Something pretty wierd just happened....

I decided to change back over to my OCZ TCCD and wait for the new ATI mobos, but before i did I tried the bad stick one more time and the system booted. It then proceeded to pass memtest+, boot windows and pass memtest for windows with no error. At this point I am thinking that I am going crazy, as I know the memory was dead last night.

Anyway, I switched off the PC and tried to boot again....this time like last night no go, and again its just that one stick that has the problem. Take it out and the system boots, put it back in and it doesn't (even just on its own, I cleared cmos again, etc).

So the memory is defo buggered, but why would it just come back to life like that for no reason, work perfectly for a bit and then keel over and die again for seeming no reason?

Is this that electro-migration that Oscar was talking about?

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No. Just don't play with the stick anymore and RMA it. This is pattern it will eventually totally kill the memory. When it goes, it will take ALL the memory you had installed in at same time most likely. (4 Mushikin blue I had)
Ignoring it will only force break down.

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Originally Posted by eclypse

You wont beable to use the 4vdimm jumper with that P/S.. I know cause i've had 2 of them now and i've givin up on the thing and returned it!

Low voltages all around and it was'nt enough juice for my 4 DD 12v water pumps pumps. It would'nt turn on. Tech support made me a addapter so i could run some extra 12v crap off the 8 pin connector and it was crazy unstable. I ended up having to run 2 power supplies just to run my cooling. Not what i wanted to do with a 500 dollar P/S. You would think an 950WATT max powe supply would do it but since its like 4 small 200 watt 12v rails at 17amps, its not enough to power my beast.

Infact i even noticed my graphics having that overheating look with messed up pixles an all and i thought it was the cards overheating.. But i guess it was just that they werent getting enough juice is all.. I know this now after going back to my 700 watt zippy with an extra Power supply for the pumps.. Its even hotter in the room and there fine now.

What you need is a Zippy with a LARGE 12v rail..

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Eclypse, you gotta be kiddin me right? I just paid a small fortune for this so called monster
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Originally Posted by eva2000

On 5v jumper ? strange noticed a few more folks past few days report ram being killed on DFI but only since the issue was reported ???

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No, I used 5v rail only for benchs, dayuse at 2.9v 2.5-2-2-5 260mhz :(
I hope the new bank is good same the old (and dead) bank :(

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Originally Posted by Sniper 86

No, I used 5v rail only for benchs, dayuse at 2.9v 2.5-2-2-5 260mhz :(
I hope the new bank is good same the old (and dead) bank :(

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what ram is that???

What BIOS are you guys running? I'm going to assume you are all using a BIOS version older than the 414's.

it would seem that DFI only kills UTT sticks. i have never heard it kill old BH5...

There has been people with dead "old" BH-5 and even TCCD, the notion that it kills only UTT is not correct.

Check these 2 previous threads for more info:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=62804
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=63932

Yeah it killed my G-Skill 4400LE TCCD after i flashed my bios..

few questions:
which rail did you run? 5v?
Orange or Yellow slots?
What bios?
how much vdimm?


my first pair of Redline also ended up dead in orange slot2 at 5v rail with only 3.5v vdimm, rma took about 1 1/2 week....not too bad, talk to Tom and he'll take care of you.

Agent....how did yours ended up dead?


Edit: by the way, last month I'd also had a pair of TCCD got killed in orange slots, ran them 24/7 for about a month with two fans blowing on them at 330 @2.5-4-3-7 1T with 3.1v.

abit an8-sli

i've had my DFI NF4 SLI-D for 6 months using 5v jumper mainly with original BH-5/6 and UTT BH-5/CH-5 ram from OCZ PC3200 Gold/GoldVX and no ram has ever died, but being scared by this report switched back to 3.3v jumper and TCCD Gskill ram for now.

what is strange to me is that all these reports of dead ram coincide with the release of this confirmed DFI news of 5v jumper issues ? even some of the reported ram being killed only happened after this news was released ?

i'd like to know how many of these users were using pre-414 series bios that had that know killer issue reported at http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=440 and http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=59414 and not related to just using 5v jumper as such

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Just talked with Oskar couple minutes ago.

when you play winbond utt type of ram on DFI NF4 series, and if you set the jp17 on 2-3, after your play is done. PLEASE, do as followed:

Clear CMOS before set the jp17 back to default 1-2 position or set the 3.2v before set the jp17 back to 1-2. Several of my friends already killed their ram already. Be very careful about this.

and be sure look at when you set 2.6v and see if voltage monitor under the bios is showing exactly what you set.

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ben, TCCD at 3.1v is bloody hot considering how hot they are just at 2.8v

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Originally Posted by madpete

eve2000,

Issue with Enermax and DFI? I must have missed that one, whats that all about then? Although I will grant you that my volts seem a bit more wobbley than I'd like.

As it happens I have one of these: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/produc...hp?show=T85SSI
being delivered early next week, so I guess we will find out if theres a prob.

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sorry but that psu won't work either according to OPB http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=274 but worked for another user FROG so lucky dip

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Originally Posted by AMD-me

what ram is that???

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2x512mb Crucial Ballistix pc4000.

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Originally Posted by B5I8

What BIOS are you guys running? I'm going to assume you are all using a BIOS version older than the 414's.

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I'm running 510-3 bios.

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Originally Posted by ben805

few questions:
which rail did you run? 5v?
Orange or Yellow slots?
What bios?
how much vdimm?

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Normal 3v
Orange
510-3
2.9v with a 50cfm fan on the ram.

not sure how closely you guys monitor your chipset fan but when i use 510-x bioses my chipset fan can stop completely for moments at times driving up chipset temps... i since went back to 414-3 as best bios for me...

wonder if using 510-x causing chipset fan to stop and heat killing chipset on board and ram ???????

underload the TCCD was only slightly warm at 3.1v and I had two 90mm fans on top of them, they were the best sticks I ever had as well....bought 3 more pairs afterward and none could match the performance, been kicking myself in the arse ever since and I doubt I would ever come across nice TCCD like that anymore :D

As for chipset fan, always have mine on full speed.

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Originally Posted by ben805

few questions:
which rail did you run? 5v?
Orange or Yellow slots?
What bios?
how much vdimm?


my first pair of Redline also ended up dead in orange slot2 at 5v rail with only 3.5v vdimm, rma took about 1 1/2 week....not too bad, talk to Tom and he'll take care of you.

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Yeah, 5v rail
Dimm slot: Orange slots (interesting you should say that, cause my VX died in the orange slots and someone else mentioned it too)
Bios: 510-2
Vdimm: 3.5v

I have also 2 killed redline sticks.

I had my first set. Within 3 day's one of them was dead. Then came the second set and now again 1 dead stick.

When dit you guy's found out one stick was dead ? When running the systems or after switching from 3.3v > +5v ? My first set was killed after a switch to +5v 2e i don't know anymore :(

This is realy a big problem. By my Twinmos sticks are still alive :confused: i ran those in orange slots and old bios. I swiched many times between 3.3 an +5v but i had no problems. Now with reds 510-2 bios and yellow slots i have already 2 dead stick :confused:

I still dont think its a board issue, I have a strong feeling ppl are flashing with High volts still going through ram. I also think that ppl are pumping for example 3.6,3.7 volts through there Redlines when they are only rated to 3.5 then complain there sticks are dead.
I still say and remain conviced that this is a UTT issue, yes there is one of two instances of TCCD/BH5(old) dieing but giving the VERY SMALL number I would say this is more coincidence.
Giving the Memory controller is on die, I would of thought that if the board was spiking bad enough to KILL Ram, I would have a guess that the memory controllers would be dieing also.

Just my :2cents:

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Originally Posted by jiff

I still dont think its a board issue, I have a strong feeling ppl are flashing with High volts still going through ram. I also think that ppl are pumping for example 3.6,3.7 volts through there Redlines when they are only rated to 3.5 then complain there sticks are dead.
I still say and remain conviced that this is a UTT issue, yes there is one of two instances of TCCD/BH5(old) dieing but giving the VERY SMALL number I would say this is more coincidence.
Giving the Memory controller is on die, I would of thought that if the board was spiking bad enough to KILL Ram, I would have a guess that the memory controllers would be dieing also.

Just my :2cents:

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I don't know that to think.

I whas using max 3.4 with 80 mm active cooling. Not flashing the board. And i have got 2 DFI Ultra D's here one stock bios one 510-2. And 2 venice cores both did not work. one module works fine other not. And at start both modules worked. So somthing is killing it but i don't know what.

I think Mushkin should start suggesting user to stay the hell away from the 5v rail for now because it looks like almost all dead Redline were on that same damn rail, I can not imagine how many RMA replacement they've been dealing with....

Astennu...I feel for ya, hope your 3rd pairs won't be on 5v rail again LOL just do the jumper mod for now man, otherwise they'll just keep dying.

Thank God this board hasn't killed any of my RAM but it sure is starting to annoy me :mad: Sometimes when I try to boot up right before it gets to the Windows loading screen it says Boot CD: DISC ERROR INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER Originally when I had this problem switching from SATA port 2 to 4 solved it (SATA 1+2 don't work at all for me). But then after a little while the problem came back again. For a while, I could solve it by switching from SATA port 4 to 3, and when it happened again from 3 to 4, but that doesn't seem to work anymore. Now I have to reset the CMOS 2 or 3 times until for some reason the board decides to start working again...until it starts all over again :(

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Originally Posted by eva2000

what is strange to me is that all these reports of dead ram coincide with the release of this confirmed DFI news of 5v jumper issues ? even some of the reported ram being killed only happened after this news was released ?

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a lot of people probably thought it was initially bad memory. When someone finally reported having the same issues, people started putting 1 and 1 together and figured it might be the boards fault especially when they had more than one set go on them. Just a thought, i could be wrong though.

Same here. I thought is was the memory but after 2 times i clould not be the memory.

This is a big problem. I don't know what 2 do.

Get for the 3e time redline modules or get VX 4000.

And I won't run 3.3 anymore. I just gonna stick with the 3.2.

And may be later i'll mod my coolermaster realpower for higher 3.3 volts. But i don't love the idea off voiding the warranty of my 3 monds old PSU.