The Noctua fan colors are not very appealing , true.
But the NF P12 is the best fan I've ever used. low noise and great airflow.
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The Noctua fan colors are not very appealing , true.
But the NF P12 is the best fan I've ever used. low noise and great airflow.
You'll have to do a review on one, Clunk. In english:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
Noctua does not launch products too often, but when they do, they really put out the good stuff. In this case, I am really curious how this one will perform (will be testing one next week). Anyway, it is obvious that Noctua is interested in silent computing, so this one is probably optimised for low air-flow and will not shine at high air-flow. The unfortunate resemblence with the IFX concerns me though, but real testing needs to be done untill drawing some conclusions.
It would be great with a real test. Maybe with different fan-options, likeQuote:
Originally Posted by Monstru
3 fans, and other fans (with high static pressure) too?.
I'm using NF-P12 as a case-fan, and it is a great low-noise fan with good air-flow. But it doesn't have enough static pressure, and therefore isn't the best CPU-fan. But that NF-P14 (+ an extra fan#3) can change the picture totally. Maybe this combination can become the ultimate low-noise and high performance? I have a good hunch about this, but only a good test will show the real stuff!
Well, we will try to have a test as complete as possible, just like we did on our LGA 775 round-up. Just as a side note, I just finished a test today with a silent PC built using mostly Noctua solutions, and I might say that for the average Joe, the system is mighty powerfull and very silent. Of course, it will not satisfy the silent pc maniac which is dreaming about a complete fanless PC, but for most people this is pretty darn silent. Maybe a NH-D14 could lower the CPUtemps even more, we will see about that :)
The fans I would throw out. The HS looks nice though. Not a very big fan of Noctua fans.
OP, your avatar is about the expression I had on my face when I saw this... Thing :D
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Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
It's just the opposite, no? The NF-P12 is the one with higher static pressure (1.68 mm H2O) but lower airflow and is intended for CPU HSFs, or restrictive/obstructed airflow applications; where the NF-S12 has lower pressure (1.31 mm H2O) but higher airflow and is meant for less obstructed ventilation.
http://www.noctua.at/images/feature_...d_pressure.jpg
http://www.noctua.at/images/feature_...ld_airflow.jpg
I've been cooling an E8400 clocked around 4 MHz for quite awhile now on a single NF-P12 with no issues. (Cooled a hotter E6600 with good results as well.) I'm also happy with the NF-S12's and NF-R8's I'm using for case duties.
What if they had some LEDs? Then would you be a fan of Noctua fans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sadasius
Ummm no! LED's don't make a good fan. I like San Ace fans myself. Especially the high powered one's. Click the youtube links in my sig for my vids to show the fans I do like. This is XtremeSystems don't forget! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by th3pwn3r
Haha, I'll check them out. I really need to get rid of the ChainsawMaster CPU cooler I have. REEEEEEEEEER!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sadasius
OMG I need 3 of these! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sadasius
Yes the NF-P12 is the one with higher pressure, but even that is too little pressure to handle a CPU with high effect. I have used this fan on a NH-U12P cooler, and it worked fine for my good old E8400 up to @4.1GHZ, but it couldn't handle the high effect of my latest Core i7's at>@4GHZ, and therefore it ended up as case fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by aztec
These new Quad-Core's need a couple of CPU-fan with higher static pressure. Those San Ace fans looks good, with a lot of pressure, but is too noisy for my liking :shocked:
Right, well you could have used 2 NF-P12's on the NH-U12 HSF for the i7, or now the new HSF with larger 140mm fans. Of course for max o/c's more CFM might have been needed, but then more noise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
For everyone who wonder how good this new cooler performs. I've already received a sample and tested it on my testing-rig based on a Intel Core i7 920. Reference-fans are two Noctua NF-P12 (with the NF-P14 I'll test tomorrow), which I used on every cooler for better comparement.
http://www.abload.de/img/heatpipesx8lp.jpg
With one fast fan, this monster is just a little bit better than the Megahalems and with two of them it's about 2k better. Even more impressive results you'll get with low-RPM-fans. With two 600RPM the Noctua NH-D14 beats the Megahalems at (at....by....at....by....at? Oh, i wish i could write in german ^^) about 5,5k, not bad, ha? ^^
^^ Not bad at all, that's what i was hoping for. Where did you post your temps and other stuff?
I'll post it on the Hardwareluxx-Forums in the next few days
Just a little food for thought:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sadasius
So, by your definition "xtreme" always means powerful?
Ever thought about the fact that there's also "xtremely silent", "xtremely efficient", "xtremely nice looking" and/or "xtremely innovative".
I do agree that this is indeed xtremesystems, but that doesn't mean that anything around here has to be about POWER, POWER and POWER only. ;)
some people don't care about its color scheme and rather grab them for "performance" but some people build systems to look great and its not like Noctua has the "best" fans they are many options out there...but these are great just color sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Computurd
i just got my hands on 2 NFP12 fans for my V350 and i have to say that they are quiteter than my old s-flex @800rpm while running at higher RPM and pushing more airQuote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
the s-flex fans had some issues with low frequent buzzing noise when running at low rpm similar to hd 4870 coil buzzing under extreme 3D load (furmark)
if you want proper low noise fans + coolers then noctua is the way to go ;)
Thanks for the innovative perception that I could not have possibly thought of on my own. :rofl: Also do not remember defining extreme anywhere in my post. All I said was this was XtremeSystems which does include everything you tried to enlighten me on. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by celemine1Gig
What you said was that this is xtremesystems, implying that we only talk about and/or use powerful fans around here. And that was the reason that I posted what I posted. ;) It sounded like you were saying that the Noctua fans were kind of bad, because they are not powerful enough. And that would be BS. Period! I'm sorry, but that's what it sounded like to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sadasius
Dude you need to learn to read or something as you obviously like to put words in people's mouths. Your stating that your posting to something I was implying, defining etc. Here let's capture this once again and I will highlight the area of interest that might help you a little....Quote:
Originally Posted by celemine1Gig
Wow it seems I singled out myself in saying that 'I like' the high powered fans and that in an even earlier post said that I was not a fan of Noctua fans. To most people that is pretty much an open and shut case to what I like and dislike. I did not define nor implied that everyone must do the same. If you have to just keep reading the last line over and over again so it sinks in. Sorry but I do not like trolling posts. Stop putting words/implications or definitions that do not exist in peoples posts just so you can try and come out looking like your an intelligent being. I do not like their fan plain and simple. I like the one's I have in my link. End of story! :yepp:Quote:
Ummm no! LED's don't make a good fan. I like San Ace fans myself. Especially the high powered one's. Click the youtube links in my sig for my vids to show the fans I do like. This is XtremeSystems don't forget!
Now back on topic to what I think is a great product even though I do not like the fans. :rofl:
I don't put words in other poeple's mouth and I do know how to read and comprehend. You don't seem to know the whole meaning of what you wrote. That seems to be the problem. If you post something like "This is XtremeSystems don't forget!" you do imply something with it. And don't tell me that you just put it there for no reason.
In this context it clearly means something along the lines of "I like powerful SanAce fans and you should like them, too, because this is xtremesystems and that's what we prefer around here.".
Now, prove me wrong! I just don't like the attitude of some people, who think that they must dictate what's discussed on the forums. If someone wants to write about silent cooling and energy saving, relatively slow CPUs, why not let him, instead of telling him that "this is xtremesystems".
I hope you understood what I'm trying to say. BTW, all the ROFL smilies, don't really make up for the lack of arguments in a discussion. ;)
Welcome to my ignore troll list celemine1Gig! Now back on topic...
Now this is an interesting picture. Does the points on the fins help heat dissipation? Or would it just be a dust trap waiting to happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy_Hewitt