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06-02-2007, 02:30 PM
drtitanium0

Number one looks pretty good. You should order 1 and if you like it order more.
06-02-2007, 02:58 PM
Kaze06

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/57...l?tl=g6c77s126

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/54...4RD.html?tl=g6

I have the blue version of the first one and it is very, very bright.
06-02-2007, 11:00 PM
v a d e R`

Ordered some more stuff today:
1x120mm Arctic Cooling Fan
1x80mm Arctic Cooling Fan
1x120mm Yate Loon D12-SL
2x 12" Red CCFls
Scythe Ninja Plus Rev.B

8)

I picked the red CCFLs marketed by SVC because I'm pretty sure they're the Sunbeam ones and FragTek has had those and they were very nice.
06-03-2007, 12:56 AM
v a d e R`

Wow guys, this is a really noob question but...do I need to use washers when installing my mobo? I ask because most guides online don't use them, on my first build I used them..

If I do need to use them the arrangement is as so:

standoff>washer>mobo>washer>screw into standoff

So basically one washer ontop of standoff, mobo sits on standoff + washer and screw with washer below head goes into mobo + standoff. Right? :)
06-03-2007, 08:13 AM
drtitanium0

Definitely post picks of your CCFLs in action. As for washers I really don't think they are necessary but you can use them if you want.
06-03-2007, 08:43 AM
v a d e R`

Quote:

Originally Posted by drtitanium0

Definitely post picks of your CCFLs in action. As for washers I really don't think they are necessary but you can use them if you want.

Yea there will definitely be tons of pics! I can't really build until the 14th though, because that's when my finals are over. However, next week all my stuff will come in so expect a lot of pictures on Friday!
06-03-2007, 11:18 AM
Nazu

Quote:

Originally Posted by v a d e R`

Wow guys, this is a really noob question but...do I need to use washers when installing my mobo? I ask because most guides online don't use them, on my first build I used them..

If I do need to use them the arrangement is as so:

standoff>washer>mobo>washer>screw into standoff

So basically one washer ontop of standoff, mobo sits on standoff + washer and screw with washer below head goes into mobo + standoff. Right? :)

You don't need any washers when you install the mobo in to the case. Just screw the mobo to the standoff's and your set. I'm also building a new rig and my ram+mobo should arrive next tuesday or wednesday. G-Skill F2-6400PHU2-GBHZ ram and DFI Infinity Dark P965-S mobo :) I have not yet decided which cpu and videocard to buy...
06-03-2007, 03:50 PM
v a d e R`

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nazu

You don't need any washers when you install the mobo in to the case. Just screw the mobo to the standoff's and your set. I'm also building a new rig and my ram+mobo should arrive next tuesday or wednesday. G-Skill F2-6400PHU2-GBHZ ram and DFI Infinity Dark P965-S mobo :) I have not yet decided which cpu and videocard to buy...

Thanks for the advice! I still might put washers in just to be safe though..not sure yet!

By the way, adding a VDroop mod for the board when it comes in :).

And changing the sucktastic thermal paste.

Any advice on how to safely remove and reinstall Asus heatpipe? :)
06-03-2007, 04:34 PM
SPQQKY

I use the felt washers between the mobo and screw, not the standoffs. Just to be sure you get a snug fit, but not overtightened. I've seen a lot of people say if you use them, the mobo won't be grounded to the case and it causes problems. Well, the whole point is the mobo is grounded to the PSU and not the case, so the PSU can do it's job protecting your components. Aluminum cases don't make good grounds anyway, now do they? :)
The rig looks like it's going to be sweet. Get those pics and some OC results up soon. :up:
06-03-2007, 04:36 PM
v a d e R`

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPQQKY

I use the felt washers between the mobo and screw, not the standoffs. Just to be sure you get a snug fit, but not overtightened. I've seen a lot of people say if you use them, the mobo won't be grounded to the case and it causes problems. Well, the whole point is the mobo is grounded to the PSU and not the case, so the PSU can do it's job protecting your components. Aluminum cases don't make good grounds anyway, now do they? :)
The rig looks like it's going to be sweet. Get those pics and some OC results up soon. :up:

Thanks man! I remember on my first build, before I switched to an ECS to of my Asus boards died after one bootup probably because I didn't use the washers. Im using them this time...I think.
06-04-2007, 12:30 PM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by v a d e R`

Hey guys, finally getting a new awesome C2D and P35 setup! I already ordered all the parts so expect pics very soon. Any comments/warnings before I begin this? :D

Ordered:
CPU: E6600
Case: Lian-Li PC-7B Plus II w/Window
GFX: XFXForce 8800 GTS xXx 640MB
MotherBoard: Asus P5k P35 Motherboard
Ram: G.Skill DDR2 800
HD: Seagate 7200.10 Perpendicular Recording 320GB with 16MB Cache
PSU: Corsair 520W HX Modular
Samsung DVD-RW 18x
1x120mm Arctic Cooling Fan
1x80mm Arctic Cooling Fan
1x120mm Yate Loon D12-SL
2x 12" Red CCFls
Scythe Ninja Plus Rev.B

Going to add (when funds permit):
Sound Card

Going to change/mod:
Pencil Mod VDroop!

Besides the case and GSKill RAM, it looks sweet:)
06-04-2007, 12:43 PM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPQQKY

I use the felt washers between the mobo and screw, not the standoffs. Just to be sure you get a snug fit, but not overtightened. I've seen a lot of people say if you use them, the mobo won't be grounded to the case and it causes problems. Well, the whole point is the mobo is grounded to the PSU and not the case, so the PSU can do it's job protecting your components. Aluminum cases don't make good grounds anyway, now do they? :)
The rig looks like it's going to be sweet. Get those pics and some OC results up soon. :up:

None of my 5 up and running computer have washers. Most of the time the metal rings are meant to be grounded.

Al makes good ground material. Please Read the mounting instructions in your motherboard manual and follow those instructions.

The funny thing is that Lian Li's motherboard tray is so frackin' cheap, it strips before it gets too tight:rofl: Mine has a small Nut on the other side to hold one of the stand offs. Then there's constantly tightening the Sides, the case rattles if you don't. You have to carefully connect and disconnect from the PCI cards because the thin assed tray let's the cards come loose. Out of my Whole rig, the Case is only surpassed in suckyness by my RAM. When I bought it, not since since I'd love an 8800 GTS 640MB:)
06-04-2007, 02:46 PM
v a d e R`

Lol not so sure about ur Li-Li comments but anyways...

Found a nice P5K on my doorstep after school. Pics soon :)
06-04-2007, 06:52 PM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by v a d e R`

Lol not so sure about ur Li-Li comments but anyways...

Found a nice P5K on my doorstep after school. Pics soon :)

Sure, just one onwer's opinion:) It's not in the same class as Cooler Master, The case should sell for about $39.
06-04-2007, 07:03 PM
v a d e R`

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

Sure, just one onwer's opinion:) It's not in the same class as Cooler Master, The case should sell for about $39.

What are you talking about?
06-04-2007, 07:31 PM
drtitanium0

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Originally Posted by v a d e R`

What are you talking about?

He thinks lian lis are over rated and made poorly. I personally love my lian li and favor it over any of my previous cases. But whatever everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
06-04-2007, 08:06 PM
v a d e R`

Quote:

Originally Posted by drtitanium0

He thinks lian lis are over rated and made poorly. I personally love my lian li and favor it over any of my previous cases. But whatever everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I've never had a Lian-Li before, but I really think he's the only person that I've ever heard say the Lian-Li sucks.

:eek:
06-04-2007, 10:16 PM
OpTioN

Lian Li cases are awesome. The removable motherboard tray really helps.

Nice rig man... almost like mine! haha
06-05-2007, 05:35 AM
v a d e R`

Quote:

Originally Posted by OpTioN

Lian Li cases are awesome. The removable motherboard tray really helps.

Nice rig man... almost like mine! haha

My case doesn't have a removable mobo tray but oh well =\

And mine wins! :D
06-05-2007, 06:48 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by v a d e R`

What are you talking about?

Please make note. I'm NOT talking about every Lian Li case on the market. I'am talking about the 7B. I own the case and it's not one of the better cases out there. It's paper thin, flimsy and even the non removable motherboard tray is weak flexes too much.

Old TTGI/Superflower 301, Thermaltake, Cooler Master, Timjin and etc. many ship with motherboard trays that are actually worth a damned. I've only been building computer since 1993 and maybe I'm just use to better:D

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2003/0...ew/page36.html

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129017
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129021
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811166019

To the other guy, no, I'm NOT the only one who thinks it cheap and too thin or that it rattles. If I thought was a total POS, I would have RMA-ed mine. Hell even read the Newegg reviews and you'll see some of the same complaints. Now way in hell I'd give it a 5 stars LOL. It seems to me that the more good computer cases a users has went through, the less impressive the Lian Li 7B looks.
06-05-2007, 06:51 AM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by drtitanium0

He thinks lian lis are over rated and made poorly. I personally love my lian li and favor it over any of my previous cases. But whatever everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Thank you!
06-05-2007, 06:58 AM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by v a d e R`

My case doesn't have a removable mobo tray but oh well =\

And mine wins! :D

Sure, just wait until you push down on that Ninja, the RAM or any PCI card;) This is my 2nd and last Lian Li until they make them a just a little stronger or thicker. If possible, go to the nearest CompUSA and see some of their display cases?
06-05-2007, 02:10 PM
v a d e R`

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donnie27

Sure, just wait until you push down on that Ninja, the RAM or any PCI card;) This is my 2nd and last Lian Li until they make them a just a little stronger or thicker. If possible, go to the nearest CompUSA and see some of their display cases?

Uhh no need for suggestions. Tyvm.

I got my 7200.10 320GB and my G.Skill ddr2 800 today :)

Edit: Also got bored last night so performed the VDroop mod.
06-05-2007, 04:45 PM
jabski

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Originally Posted by v a d e R`

And changing the sucktastic thermal paste.

Any advice on how to safely remove and reinstall Asus heatpipe? :)

I am sure i read in the intel section that ASUS have sorted their poor thermal paste and now there is no need to pop off the heatpipes ???
If you have/want to take them off then its not too hard.
06-05-2007, 06:02 PM
v a d e R`

Quote:

Originally Posted by jabski

I am sure i read in the intel section that ASUS have sorted their poor thermal paste and now there is no need to pop off the heatpipes ???
If you have/want to take them off then its not too hard.

Yea that's what I have been told also. :)

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