difficulty and the right choice-aircooling for Thuban

Cele & Mad222

What voltage do you need to run your 965 C3's LinX stable?

So far I need 1.475v for the cores and 1.35v for the NB to achieve LinX stability with the cores OC-ed at 4GHz(18.5*216MHz), NB@2.6GHz(12*216MHz), RAM @1.73GHz CL8 8-8-24 1T:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/1097029.png

I have SuperTalent OC 2x2GB DDR3-1600 CL9 9-9-27 2T 1.65v which can do 1.8GHz CL7 7-7-21 1T @1.9v

I'm using Cooler Master Hyper 212+ with 2xCM120mm 2000RPM 19dBA 72cFM fans:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1536/hyper212y.jpg

Cele, since you have the same mainboard like mine can you tell me what settings(voltages, ACC) are you using?

P.S. Pozdrav od Makedonija :)

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Originally Posted by FlanK3r

Cewle:whats new with your 965 and megacooling?:)

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It goes like crap, I'm not happy anymore because I need more investing and there is terrible fan availability, the best fan I can buy is Scythe S-flex 1200rpm... :( And I tried for last few days to enter 1900+ CL6 32M club but no success, so I will probably tomorrow close computer case and try cpu stress and 24/7 stuff

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Originally Posted by Mad222

Bro. ok, I'll start developing my habit to run 32m....you know I'm lazy!:D
Anything new to play ?
I'm waiting for 6 cores & still working on PI WR.
Unfortunately, unable to solve the IMC cold bug problem
Some of my best chips died after LN2; just like intel 32nm...can you believe that !!!:shocked:

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:up: That's great to hear man (about changing your habits :D), I love to see whole package from benching when results are great as yours :up:

I'm LN2 noob so I don't know much about that, that cold bug thing, my 965 chip is super crap under LN2, after hitting 5.8ghz with 1.55V chip stops scaling, 6.0 with 1.60V and it hits the wall, up to 1.90V not a single mhz increase :( So I have to find good chip, and I'm waiting for good pot, my friend have some custom made cheap pot, and that's it man, waiting for Thuban or Zosma also :)

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Originally Posted by gOJDO

Cele & Mad222

What voltage do you need to run your 965 C3's LinX stable?

So far I need 1.475v for the cores and 1.35v for the NB to achieve LinX stability with the cores OC-ed at 4GHz(18.5*216MHz), NB@2.6GHz(12*216MHz), RAM @1.73GHz CL8 8-8-24 1T:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/1097029.png

I have SuperTalent OC 2x2GB DDR3-1600 CL9 9-9-27 2T 1.65v which can do 1.8GHz CL7 7-7-21 1T @1.9v

I'm using Cooler Master Hyper 212+ with 2xCM120mm 2000RPM 19dBA 72cFM fans:

Cele, since you have the same mainboard like mine can you tell me what settings(voltages, ACC) are you using?

P.S. Pozdrav od Makedonija :)

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Greetings neighbor! :) My 24/7 voltage is 1.450V for 4050mhz and 2700 1.350V, memory at 1800 6-6-6-18 1.70V

225*18=4050 1.325v + 0.125V
225*12=2700 1.100 + 0.250V
225*8=1800 1.65V + 0.05V

But I must say I'm not stress stable guy, if it works fine with everything you use but crash in stress test, so what, who cares, one or two hours of stress is less important then every day use so you find your values that sutes you best in 24/7

omg...1.45V and 4050 MHz...its my dream :(...

gOJDO:
some guys from Czech have problem with temps-CM Hyper 212+ and OC X4 9xx. Do u had OK temperatures? How do u spotted thermal paste?? Thx

For LinX, that's about the right volt.
I would suggest to work on the IMC instead of the CPU Vcore

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Originally Posted by gOJDO

Cele & Mad222
What voltage do you need to run your 965 C3's LinX stable?
So far I need 1.475v for the cores and 1.35v for the NB to achieve LinX stability with the cores OC-ed at 4GHz(18.5*216MHz), NB@2.6GHz(12*216MHz), RAM @1.73GHz CL8 8-8-24 1T:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/1097029.png

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Umm....the cold bug things need to be solved. The new C3 with "N" CPU PCB doesn't like anything higher than 1.875v
LN2 pot for AMD, I like the "Dual Wall Evaporator" the most. For me, nothing could be compared with that pot which would get you to the lowest Temp like -190c. with less than 1 & a half litre of LN2 in a few mins.:up:
Hey, ask Aaron to see if he can give you a good price for that pot, man! It's worthy !

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Originally Posted by Cele303

:up: That's great to hear man (about changing your habits :D), I love to see whole package from benching when results are great as yours :up:

I'm LN2 noob so I don't know much about that, that cold bug thing, my 965 chip is super crap under LN2, after hitting 5.8ghz with 1.55V chip stops scaling, 6.0 with 1.60V and it hits the wall, up to 1.90V not a single mhz increase :( So I have to find good chip, and I'm waiting for good pot, my friend have some custom made cheap pot, and that's it man, waiting for Thuban or Zosma also :)

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HaHah....Flankerp, work harder on air cooling & your dream will come ture:yepp:
BTW, what thermal paste you guys are using for air cooling ???
I'm using the GC2 & it works pretty well. It's good to use for about a month
Umm...I want to try the one Cele suggested

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Originally Posted by FlanK3r

omg...1.45V and 4050 MHz...its my dream :(...
gOJDO:
some guys from Czech have problem with temps-CM Hyper 212+ and OC X4 9xx. Do u had OK temperatures? How do u spotted thermal paste?? Thx

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MAD: really, i tweaked days and days and with hard work i got 4030MHz stable as maximum. Think, a bit problem is my batch 0942EPMW...I know about 2 guys, who has this batch (Lastviking and Izallica had one) and my was the best from this 3. Lastviking hit max 3950 stable with normal ambients. O.C, validation is not problem :), up 4400 MHz its easy, than more harder :)

next new components for my third build, to time RAMs (last 2 are MB and CPU :) ). Srry for very bad photo quality :-/
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...huban/RAM2.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...huban/RAM1.jpg

Hey....I have those 2000 C9 @ home ;):up:

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Originally Posted by FlanK3r

next new components for my third build, to time RAMs (last 2 are MB and CPU :) ). Srry for very bad photo quality :-/
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...huban/RAM1.jpg

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Concerning the topic :

I had the same issue and have been reading a lot of reviews .
Bottom line is that it's best to take a cooler with a big base for AM3 such as :
Xigmatek Thor's hammer S126384
or
Scythe mugen-II

Since the first one comes without fan (i have 120mm's enough myself) and is easier to install i'm going for the hammer .

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Originally Posted by Mad222

Hey....I have those 2000 C9 @ home ;):up:

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heh, cool! And how good are yours for OC?:) Hope for result about 1600MHz cl 7 or 1800 cl 8 :). Or 2100 cl 9 :D (if Thuban will has better IMC)

Those pairs are pretty stable but couldn't get to low CL
1600 C7 & 1800 C8 won't be a problem
2100 C9 on AMD ???!!! Flankerp, too greedy:p:

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Originally Posted by FlanK3r

heh, cool! And how good are yours for OC?:) Hope for result about 1600MHz cl 7 or 1800 cl 8 :). Or 2100 cl 9 :D (if Thuban will has better IMC)

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or maybe only 2000MHz ,-). Thuban will better for RAMs think :) (as from C2 to C3 revision)

Yes, the hammer's a good choice, you don't need to take the stock mounts off.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2070428_n.jpg
There's a 1090T under there, anyone got LinX 20 loops at more than 3.6GHz yet?

Is that your Thuban? 3,6 would kinda suck...

i hope, your 3.6 GHz is not maximum with 1.5+ Vcore...Here are guys, which benchmarked with AIR at 4300MHz 3D06 etc

No, the board isn't playing nice with non standard voltages and can't decide if Vid is 1.3 or 1.475.

Might pull out a Crosshair III tomorrow and see if I can get 2GHz RAM working on it!

initialised, are you having problems with voltages? i ran prime95 blend at 3.8 with 1.475v and everything was good. i think it would have been okay with 1.425v but i decided to run mine at 1.475 considering turbo. the voltage fluctuations you see is a result of the cpu dynamically changing voltages per clock speeds either nominal, powered down or turbo. the voltage you had set in bios is for all cores on full load, turbo +0.1v and CnQ -0.15v

As i wrote in my sig i find the AM2/3 mounting system of the Xig to be very poorly implemented. The sheer force required to make it lock is scary to say the least

Like I said, whatever I set in BIOS I get either 1.475 or 1.3. Board is MA790XTA UD4 F3f BIOS, think I've gotten round this now.

The Xig is really tight, a bugger to fit/remove but temps not breaking 35C according to SpeedFan and CoreTemp.

On a more positive note it broke 20k in Cine R10 with 8-8-8-24 @ 1800MHz and Crosshair IV is on the cards.

something new, older case for new case or maybe for second computer?,-) So...one x4 965 BE (red case), one xxx at HAF and one xxx at free space :) for benchmarking



http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...an/th_HAF3.jpg


http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...an/th_HAF5.jpg


http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...an/th_HAF6.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...an/th_HAF8.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...an/th_HAF9.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...an/th_HAF7.jpg


http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...n/th_HAF10.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...n/th_HAF11.jpg


and others hardware in room :-D
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y..._hardware1.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y..._hardware2.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y..._hardware3.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y..._hardware4.jpg

flanker, is there gonna be a worklog for this soon? powdercoat the case and sleeve the wires then the system would overclock well ::p:

That little lot should keep you busy for a while.

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Originally Posted by Cele303

My next air cooler will be 3Rsystem Iceage 120 Boss II, real beast for oc on air, first place at FrostyTech

http://www.frostytech.com/articleima...Boss2_pspc.jpg

http://www.frostytech.com/articleima...sysBoss2_d.jpg

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Or get the same one without the paint job for a bit less: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1285/1/

whats now, which is better for 24/7 max air OC and performance? 890FX: ud5/ud7 or Cross IV? Il have this two, but one for Zosma and second for Thuban....Better will in new case, second lying only at table :)

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Originally Posted by initialised

Or get the same one without the paint job for a bit less: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1285/1/

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Yeah, right...

"Where to Buy 3Rsystem's Iceage 120 Boss II Heatsink?

Unfortunately it's one of the best heatsinks you cannot buy. This heatsink design has apparently been OEM'd by EKL as the Alpenföhn Nordwand Rev. B heatsink for €49.90 EUR. Spire have a similar model called the TherMax Eclipse SP984B1 for $48USD / €32 EUR. Note that neither cooler uses the same fan as on the 3Rsys model. "

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Originally Posted by FlanK3r

next new components for my third build, to time RAMs (last 2 are MB and CPU :) ). Srry for very bad photo quality :-/
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...huban/RAM2.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...huban/RAM1.jpg

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Good choice in ram;)

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Originally Posted by Cele303

Yeah, right...

"Where to Buy 3Rsystem's Iceage 120 Boss II Heatsink?

Unfortunately it's one of the best heatsinks you cannot buy. This heatsink design has apparently been OEM'd by EKL as the Alpenföhn Nordwand Rev. B heatsink for €49.90 EUR. Spire have a similar model called the TherMax Eclipse SP984B1 for $48USD / €32 EUR. Note that neither cooler uses the same fan as on the 3Rsys model. "

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how is noctua d14 you are running? :p: Spire seems be available in Europe. 30€ is good price :)

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Originally Posted by Tomasis

how is noctua d14 you are running? :p: Spire seems be available in Europe. 30€ is good price :)

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I'm testing 1090T with Crosshair IV Formula, 24/7 -> 4050mhz 1.40v, nb 2925 1.300v, ram 1800 6-6-6-18 1.70v, ht 2025 1.100v

idle 18°, load 39°c outside computer case in normal spring ambient :p: :)

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6...c03293u.th.jpg http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6993/247oc.th.jpg

cele:n1, whats series 1090T?

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Originally Posted by Cele303

idle 18°, load 39°c outside computer case in normal spring ambient :p: :)

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So you wanna say that the temperature in your room is below 18 degrees? :p:
The thing I want to say is that AOD readings definitely aren't right...

sensors at Thubans are bad.

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Originally Posted by Cele303

I'm testing 1090T with Crosshair IV Formula, 24/7 -> 4050mhz 1.40v, nb 2925 1.300v, ram 1800 6-6-6-18 1.70v, ht 2025 1.100v

idle 18°, load 39°c outside computer case in normal spring ambient :p: :)

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6...c03293u.th.jpg http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6993/247oc.th.jpg

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Add about 10+c to your temps. More like idle 28°, load 49°c

Your going by the individual cores. Check out the screen of CPUID
http://ssdtechnologyforum.com/ImageH.../capture33.png

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sensors at Thubans are bad.

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Dont think so, wouldnt MB/bios temp reading be wrong if that was the case?? Just asking :)

yes, this is possible.+10 C. Interest is new AOD, cause its look support for 8-cores CPU :). Whats mean ,-) ?

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Originally Posted by FlanK3r

yes, this is possible.+10 C. Interest is new AOD, cause its look support for 8-cores CPU :). Whats mean ,-) ?

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its nice it can do 8 cores, but by the time we get 8, 12 will be right around the corner, then what. (unless this is built to work with some 2p opty machines)

than Fusion ,-)...my theory is, second generation of BUlldozers will base Fusion (CPU+"GPU"+special controller CPU-GPU), at Lliano now they testing it.

today is my birthday and i was so lucky, my x4 1090T today came to me :-D...Tomorow or at thursday Corsshair IV coming and later second board GA890FXA-UD5. So..., someone know, how good is this series? Chew has too 1015???
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3351/editovan.jpg

about 1015 series i found here some experience 1015 OC It looks good, mostly 4GHz+ stable

Happy birthday Flank3r (or is it flankerp :D) and good luck with your new cpu and motherboard. Very nice combination by the way. :D :up:

edit: i see DPMW, like mine and i think it's serial# 453? ;)

im in work now, but think, its "153" :) (what means this numbers exactly?)

people say the lower the number the better the chip because it comes from the center of the wafer :shrug: but i think its still mostly batch dependent. like #500 from one batch might clock better than #1 from another batch, but from within the same batch maybe lower numbers could produce slightly better oc than higher numbers

this information looks good...next days and mostly at weeks coming my first expirience with this chip.

hey flank3r happy birthday man!

for few minutes i got Crosshair IV Formula:up:. Friday il have a bit more time and for building my second PC (my 965 BE system downgrade to HD3870 and only one HDD :) ).

And thanks boys for gratulations

second Thuban (for AIR and extreme testing) on the way boys and MA890FXA-UD5, il happy again :)

Second Thuban ?
Will that be 1055T?

cool. hope you get another 1015dpmw, ore one even better if its possible :D

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Originally Posted by crazydiamond

cool. hope you get another 1015dpmw, ore one even better if its possible :D

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If better, he's gonna sell his old one to me. :D

ZEus: yes, will 1090T and think 1015 too. Il testing it quickly with AIR (box) 2 D and than under LN2 hope, first action between 4.-6.7. :)