Will do, but it makes so much sense with some of the issues that I've had.
Much appreciated :up:
Thanks for the info. That's good to know. I was a little worried. Gosh, I can't love this board enough. It's so amazingly stable. I am looking to buy a new case soon. It will still be air cooled for a while, but I want the ATCS 840 from Coolermaster. I will run a 2x120 loop on this i7 processor, and eventually plan on running a 3x120 on my GTX 295. The i7 watercooling is very likely to happen, but the 295 might just be an empty dream, as the waterblocks for those are prohibitively expensive, and where they're changing the PCB design on the new 295's I might not be able to afford the waterblock for it before they start making them for the new design instead. Perhaps they will be compatible, but I highly doubt it.
The top priority is the case, then watercooling the i7, although this stupid TRUE really keeps temps down much better than one would expect. I used some new fan clips that also seem to direct the air better, specifically made for the TRUE 120, and with two of them I have a very strong push-pull fan setup. Both fans push over 110cfm at full 12v.
Keep up the good work, everyone, with this great board. EVGA really has a winner here, I think.
After seeing the news on the new EVGA X58 LE board I'm getting interested in that. The only different seems 6 phase analog PWM vs 8 phase analog PWM.
What is the downside of having 2 phases less if it would be to go 4.0 - 4.2 GHz i7 with watercooling?
I know it's a bit soon seeing it would only come out next month, so reviews aren't out yet. But any info would be nice about that phase change.
Main Fan: PWM controlled
http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/coolj...21225buaf.html
2nd Fan: Normal 3-pin
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185060
Both fans are AWESOME. The Cooljag costs more but it's PWM controlled. I've been running the cooljag now for well over a year, and it's still like new. When these fans are at %100 the airflow is ridiculous. They're definitely audible but the main noise is all the airflow through the case and fins, not really whiny motor noise and such. I'm extremely pleased with them so far. I've only had the slipstream in there for a couple months, but so far, it's on par with the cooljag. When you turn down the percentage, they're extremely quite, too, so they scale very well.
Try somewhere other than newegg though for the slipstreams because of their ridiculous shipping charges on fans.
Although I could ask for my sister in law to bring these fans from newegg (or other seller) from NY to here, Brazil, I don't think I'll do it.. I'll problably just look for these models here in Rio..
Funny think (actually, not funny at all), is that my 120x38 Scythes were bought on NewEgg, while I was in the US this winter, for almost ten bucks.
Here in brazil, is something around R$70, or US$30.
Just ridiculous...
i am loving the board even if there are differences between base line and top line;)
I miss my X58 SLI already. I dropped it off at UPS on Friday thinking it would be scanned in and start moving, but apparently it is still sitting at UPS and it isn't going to be delivered until the 1st :( This UD3R just doesn't give me the same joy. I can't wait until my Classified gets here, which apparently won't be until the first or second week of next month.
No worreis, it seems to be worth the waiting :D
Especially with a D0 cpu ;)
I am in the process of stepping up. I stepped up just a few days before it was found out that they (759's) would be phased out/removed from the step up list. Talk about good timing. At first I was upset because I thought they would immediately add the 760 to the step up list, which would have obviously saved me money, but as of now you can't step up to any other motherboard.
Step-up shmepp up ... hahah. I'm happy as a clam with my regular ol' x58. The thing is unreal. You guys and your disposable income ... :D
Anybody have a link to the best value water block components for this board, not the classified. Or do some of the parts work with both??
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=736
Would the above work for the vregs on the x58 non-classified?
im not sure would that work but check this one out: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24930
I don't disagree with you one bit. I didn't realize how much this $300 board gave me until I started using my UD3R.
Detailed info here...http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php...88&postcount=8
The MVR-40 looks too small for that step up plate. Wouldn't the 100mm long MVR-100 be a better fit for the 95mm step up plate?
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=736
NB/SB block:
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=804
Step up plate:
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=803
How do those look?
Edit: According to Koolance, the MVR-40 is supposed to go with that step up plate. Would it work with the 100mm one, too though? I suppose if the MVR-40 fastens directly to the step up plate, then probably not.
Does this EVGA x58 have any problem running 12GB ram or not compatible with OCZ Platinum?
Just received this board to replace my P6T Deluxe V2, My D0 chip can run LinX/Prime @4.51Ghz with the Asus but I'm still struggling to get this thing stable on this EVGA vanilla board, keep getting BSOD with 124 after 3min or so, raising the vtt all the way up to 1.52 underload didn't help either, and the PCIE is maxed out at 103, both NICs disappeared in Windows if I set the PCIE to 104. :( With the Asus we have the QPI/Vtt voltage needed only 1.35v but this EVGA I'm seeing a vtt and QPI vcore separated...are they kinda correlated? if say it needed vtt 1.40v do I have to bump up the QPI PLL Vcore to 1.40v to match the vtt as well?
The 8-pin power connector is in the oddest position hiding behind the VREG heatsink, dang hard to get to. And man as soon as I load up LinX the VREG shot up to 92'C...this puny little POS VREG sink ain't cutting it yo!
According to EVGA they put the 8-pin connector right by the vregs to reduce resistance and help the stability of voltage regulation. I actually spoke to them on the phone and they informed me that this is the most robust and reliable analog setup found on any x58 motherboard, and that it rivals some of their competition's digital ones. Anyways, I have a screen shot compilation of the settings I'm using. I would try using them, with one exception. I would drop the voltage on the core .1 to .2 down from what I have mine set at, simply because I have a C0 and you have a D0. Give those settings a try. By scaling voltage up and down I can do a stable 4.0 at 1.38v with dang nice temps, and at like 1.6 or a little higher I can get it stable to 4.35GHz, really freaking good for a C0 still on air cooling. The benchmarking and stress testing don't last long, however, because it draws enough wattage to trip my UPS. It shuts off just before 600w of draw from the wall. I need a new one! These i7's are way power hungry. (the 295 isn't helping, I'm sure!)
http://www.myzander.net/processorsettings01.jpg
vdroop prevention and turbo mode are both enabled.
I have tried all day yesterday and today and still can't get this damn thing to be stable not even at 4.2Ghz with my D0 chip, I tried different BIOS and many OC templates that I gathered from the EVGA forum and here, even tried some of those settings from Classified, played with vtt, ICH, IOH, vcore, down clock the ram, QPI, and variety of combination but still no go and keep getting BSOD. This damn turd simply isn't stable enough to run LinX for more than 5min. While the P6T Deluxe V2 has the very annoying mutliplier dropping issue but it is rock solid at 4.51Ghz so I'm going to send this thing back to newegg and try different board, maybe the Classfied or the R2E....this sucks.
hey ben805 have you tested different bioses ? i've found that some of them are really terrible with my current benching set up.. the best and most stable ones that i have used thus far are E758SZ21, E758SZ1N and E758SZ2E.
Well, not every x58 SLI from EVGA is going to be a winner. I think overall most of them are, but in the tech industry inevitably there are going to be a few out of every lot manufactured that just aren't killer boards. I wouldn't write off the EVGA x58 non-classified yet. People are largely getting incredible experiences overclocking with their boards. Maybe you should exchange it for another of the same board. Up to you though. There are several other champion x58 boards you can try, but most of us are having a great time with ours. I've never had a board with this many features that overclocks this will, this easily, and runs this stable, for the price I paid for it. I've paid more and got less a time or two, but this board has just been a dream come true ... well, if you're a complete geek like I am. :D
thread necro, but hey this board is still relevant.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/747/newd0.th.jpg
luck of the draw man. this was a cpu ordered online from NCIX canada, the only guarantee was its stepping.
One thing I can tell you from my brief experience so far with the D0 is that it reacts better with lower volts. Maybe there is another factor in your overclocks that you're overlooking?
Even with the D0 it's still luck of the draw. Maybe overall yields provide a higher percentage of killer chips, but just like the C0's there are going to be a few that just aren't the best. Sounds like you got a good chip, but not killer. 4.2 on air with any quad core is really nothing to be ashamed of. What has happened to us these days? :confused:
You are pushing your OCZ gold too hard with RAS of 19 and running 1600+. Loosen those timings a bit and you will have better luck at stability. And trust me memory benchmarks are overrated! Less than 1% gain between 8 8 8 19 and 8 9 9 24.
Is 1.45 at load or idle? Also, remember that most boards don't always push exactly the volts that they claim they are pushing. evga x58 is known for this. Read 3oh6's review hardware canucks. So, its possible that you are limited by your cooling.
I'm running memories with 8-8-8-24 and when i set it to 9-9-9-27 there's no improve on stability, unfortunately :(
Which review is that?
I'm probably limited by the cooling as you said, but I see D0's that doesn't need that much voltage (as the one above). So, if I needed less voltage, temperature would be less concerning...
I set 1.48V at idle (with vdroop) and get something around 1.45V during 3dmark's...
Are here any results with overclocking an EVGA SLI LE???
I bought this board and will get it on wednesday...now I wanna here a max bootable bclk of 225... :D
I've been kind of quiet on my end with my regular ol' x58 tri SLI. I turned HT back on, and cranked up some voltage just for fun. When I was testing before I had stability issues galore with HT enabled, but I finally realized that all my testing was being done with vdroop being allowed, rather than prevented!
Now I'm getting better results. I'll post some numbers if I have time.
I'm still waiting on that new 800D Corsair Obsidian full tower case. Once I get that, I'm making a lot of changes, and I'm hoping to get a D0 in soon for testing as well.
Also going to enter the watercooling arena shortly after receiving the Corsair case, if they ever release the bloody thing. Much of their hype is starting to wear off, and some of us would jump on a killer ATCS 840 deal if it came up before Corsair releases their new flagship case.
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=6127850
I just got mine, I hope to have time to get it up and running tomorrow night... I'll post my OC results when they are ready, but that won't be for a couple of weeks. I just want to get it up and running before I get my watercooling shwag installed.
same here actually i havent been playing with my evga board for some time now.. although that's about to change real soon, there is an OCing competition announced on one biggest computer related forum today and i intend to win it :D i have a D0 chip incoming aswell
I was loving my one until I attempted to clock my d0 to 4.4ghz. After failing when testing for stability the board wouldn't even run at stock without falling over.
On testing I believe one of the RAM slots was faulty (tested two sticks of RAM in slot 1, fails memtest and errors continously, test those sticks of RAM in slot 3 and pass for 200%). I also tested my mates Crucuial Ballastix in there and the machine wouldn't even boot with one stick in slot 1, but was stable at 4ghz when connected to slot 3... :shrug:
I RMA'ed the board back to EVGA and they have sent it back as FNF.... :mad:
Will be retesting with some Dominator but can't see how they didn't find a fault with it...
was the latest which was SZ2F I believe.
Volts when testing 4.4ghz was the following:
Vcore - 1.3 (roughly - haven't gone over 1.32 at all as was working up)
QPI - 1.8
VTT - 1.35
IOH - 1.3
DIMM - 1.65
Pretty sure they are accurate, definately nothing extreme there anyway - was just trying low volts and working away from them..
Well EVGA didn't believe there was a fault and not getting much help so far on my forum post:
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=...ey=�
Any insight from you guys appreciated, i can't see this being anything but a board fault. Requested the full test report from them and waiting to hear back.
My memtesting was done at full default settings, everything at auto, ram was only running at 1066mhz with 1.65v in bios
will try again as getting some dominator over the weekend so can fully test on Monday
Will do mate, will get some pics of it as well which can show them if it still continues with the new RAM :)
did you pop the battery out while pushing the CMOS reset button for at least 15 seconds?..make sure you unplug the power supply and push on the start button after the power LED light extinguishes to unload any caps on the board before proceeding with the CMOS clearing procedure
sometimes bios code can get corrupted while it's in memory...best way, when you face that situation, is to do that clearing method and then re-enter the bios to re-load default settings; save and then give it a try with whatever form of testing.
my board is an absolute dream board...i have 12 gig's installed and it would clock right up there to 4.4 ghz with comfortable voltages at 7-7-7-28, 2T...i have corsair's DDR-2000 (spec'd at 8-8-8-24) occupying all 6 slots.
i finally had time to play with my new 920 D0 :D and got to say its looking pretty good so far. this is just a preliminary torture with watercooling. next step is to mount my cascade and get this cpu under subzero, i hope i can finally bench over 5ghz with this chip :up:
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...hotos/4838.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/597533.png
seems like i got a nother power hungry chip, my previous C0 was even more hungry for voltage. :rolleyes:
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...os/4776mhz.jpg
Fantastic result - which bios are you using?
My 920D0 is volt hungry above 4.2ghz (only needs 1.36v for this) too - needs 1.5v for 4.3ghz and 1.56v for 4.4ghz
im using the latest E758SZ2F ( witch can be found on the 1 page of this thread) it seems to be pretty good judging from that short session i did. sound like in not the only one that has a chip that need lots of voltage in order to go higher then too bad this chip seems to have a cold boot issues when i tested this thing with my cascade yesterday (233 was a piece of cake:D). it can override with a risky move of loosening the evaporator head when i want (need) to boot again.. i really don't recommend anyone doing this since its quite risky
OK,
Great thread! I did not read the whole thing but my board is on its way(758TR), still need to get everything else CPU, and Ram. Question anybody using this NB/SB water block(Bitspower Black Freezer), or know if there any good? Also is new egg selling DO's yet?
Thanks all!
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24929
personally i would not get that nb/ sb block.. water cooling nb or sb on x58 boards does not help in overclocking at all, other factors come to play on this chipset and besided the nb really does not run "that" hot that i would see water cooling it being necessary if your overclocking.. if its just a looks, then by all means go for it :D but personally i would think of at least few better ways of spending cash than that.
^^^ word.
i have not problems getting my i7 stable at 4.6ghz -4.7ghz (of course all cpu are individuals and don't all clock the same, as you may know) on just watercooling and so said it shortly yes you can get some pretty nice ocing results with conventional watercooling rig. if you have any troubles in ocing you chip just let us know and im sure that people including me will be more than happy to give you some insight what to focus on while your trying to get the max out of you cpu
btw just out of curiosity what sort of water cooling stuff do you have.. blocks, rads, pumps etc?
2 swiftech MCR 320's for my GPU 4870X2 Also the EK nickel plated water blocks-
EK-FC4870 X2 CF-NK
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m...cture003-1.jpg
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m...cture005-1.jpg
Three Swiftech MCP655 variable pumps
tygon 1/2 ID tubing
1 Thermochill PA 120.3 for the CPU
I 'm looking to go higher than 4.7 as I know an air cooled do stepping CPU on the classified will do 5 ghz, if you think not visit 411 Overkill.com forum. Here is his CPU-Z course this is not stable(like I care) Nordic did the run.
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=589790
I just didn't get the classified cause I do not need ALL the PCIe, so I'm hoping this is the same board.
Again thanks for all the help :D
hey jaggerwild you could try and old trick that i and few others that tried, mix ice with salt and then burying the rad under that :D i've tested that before and you can get that ice salt mixture close to -18c very that would be very affordable way of going subzero if you dont want to get a ln2/ dice pot, you could just use your watercooling stuff.
Thanks Solar!
My prior best was a cooler outside the window in winter, @ over 5Ghz on my E8600. The cooler was filled with part anti freeze, part distilled water, and re-useable ice packs inside to keep the cold. Where I'm at now can't get Deice, thing now is where I'll get the CPU. My only option is New Egg as I'm so isolated in deep Mississippi.
Thanks Reverend,
You gotta cheer me on as I'm from Niagara Falls(NY side) I hear they have a nude beach this time of year in TO, I'll need photo's 4 proof ;)
Keep the ideals coming! :up:
Cheers mate but I had done absolutely everything with the board possible, including what you suggested, first idea was removing battery and resetting CMOS etc,including discharging the caps.
However got the new RAM and it was just coming up FF code on boot (yep tried everything again) so getting ANOTHER rma done...
Keep telling myself it will be worth it in the end :(
Isn't FF "Fully Functional"?
Not when it comes up that instantly on boot, usually means its not even detecting anything. Common fault seen when a board is dead
It originally went over for a faulty RAM port but EVGA tested it fine. I would get BSOD's left, right and centre if using Slot 1 but was fine without that slot being used. Since getting it back I have tested each stick of RAM in each slot and FF always comes up. RAM comes from a known working setup but just since EVGA had the board its now coming up FF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solarfall
Thanks for your suggestions but I have tested everything possible with this board, i'm a computer systems engineer and network technican so not shy to some diagnostic testing :)
RMA is now in progress so should hopefully after this get a brand new board to use
The saga continues
I'm having cold boot issues with this board now, whether at stock or my overclock. I don't know what to think. It'll sit there spinning the fans for a long time and the little P80 won't display anything, not even light up. It'll just sit there spinning the fans. Then after a few more restarts it will eventually boot up. I doubt it's the CPU. I've never thrown enough voltage at it to cause any damage.
Some boards only work with certain power supply units, if you have access to another PSU I would try that.Fer chits and giggles.
I seem to have hit a wall at 220. I can't boot with anything higher, even with low multiplier like 14x. I am LinX (40mins at 25K size) and prime (10+ hrs) stable at 21x210 with just 1.3125vcore and +100mv but I can't seem to move forward beyond this. I am trying 21x215 with HT OFF but no go. Its unstable as hell, no matter what the voltages.
No boot at 14x221, no matter what the voltages! So, what's the secret to high BCLK on evga x58 vanilla board? Are you increasing the BCLK in Eleet after booting with 220?
finding the right combo with CPU VTT and Qpi voltages is the thing that will get you past that 220.. usually when i bench i never even try to boot with high high BCLK im usully booting with 215 and then while in windows i use the e-leet tool to play around with the voltage settings and bclk :up:
Tried upto 110 PCIE and no go! It just won't boot.
Why 110? Just take it up a couple mhz. What card are you using? Some cards are sensitive to the adjustment.
I've got my 1000w Antec True Power in there now. I really don't want to throw my 600w back in there ....
I'll be putting my new D0 in there tonight to give it a run and see if it doesn't OC a little higher than my C0.
Also, it generally doesn't drop below 18c or so in the basement, where the computer is.
4.4ghz wasnt stable, would crash after 5 mins, so I'm keeping it at 4.0ghz - 4.2ghz with turbo. With my DFI LP DK-X58 + G.Skill F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ I wasnt able to achieve more than 3.2ghz. THIS motherboard is plain awesome + good ram ;)
***Note Slyver08 / Lamb is me, it's for different forums :p***
Core Voltage : 1.482V
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=602334
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6408/oc4400.png
Core Voltage : 1.482V
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=602461
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/408/oc4200.png
Hey guy I know i posted it last time but figured I'd reiterate this again, there is a known issue between certain PSU and the EVGA X58 board also the GigabyteX58 Extreme is showing the same issue.
Now someone was saying Intel will not RMA the Xeon chips being put into the EVGA X58 board as it is not a supported board so people who have issues with this combo are kinda SOL.
SWEET!
How many watts/amps are safe to pull through the PWM fan header? Would it be ok to plug two fans into it for my TRUE with one of these adapters:
http://jab-tech.com/12-Y-PWM-Extensi...k-pr-4470.html
??
Not a good idea! Read this:
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=100795999
What? They all pretty much agreed (except one new member) that 1 or 2 120mm fans are fine on one header as long as they pull under one amp total...
Edit My two fans put together total a max of .9 amps, so I think they should be fine on one header. They'll rarely be at 100% anyways. I also have an even lower powered fan I can stick in there if I start worrying about it.
About to recieve my evga x58 at my door very soon today, along with the rest of my i7 build!!
Hey, so I finished my i7 build last night (I just need an optical drive lol) but can I still flash the BIOS on my evga x58 sli? I can use a flash drive right? because I do not have a flop....Floo, sorry im trying to say...FLOPPY w/e that thing is, haha.
No problem man lol.
I'm using the Enermax Revolution 1050w and it's worked well on all boards tested, but I have heard that the Classified doesn't like them. The eVGA 3SLI and the Extreme loves it though.
Flash drive is fine, shouldn't have any problems.
ok so I did everything, it all works fine up untill I put in the "awdflash <biosname> etc and then hit enter. It brings up another screen with a bunch of information about the AWDflash program and looks like it lists letters to put in for differnt things to do. But none of them work.. Theres a blinking command prompt at the bottom but I dont know what to put in if anything. It doesnt talk about this screen in the help thread here http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=671353
Ill take a picture...
This is what I get right after the very last step (I hit enter a couple times thats why there is multiple command prompts at bottom)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2584/...1574e6f4_b.jpg
edit: I can type in a question mark and it brings up a list of commands that work, but this still isnt right, wtf?
lol nevermind, I got iot. The help thread was wrong, you are not supposed to put in ALL the spaces they show.
Also, lmao I think my mobo already had the most up to date BIOS from evga, wich is the E758sz2f.bin correct? It came out in June so I imagine all newer boards already have it.
Need some help here. Trying to OC.
Right now im at 142 BCLK with turbo mode on @ about 2.9xx some odd ghz.
Vcore is at 1.29375 (third option higher from stock)
Ram voltage is at 1.675 with Ram at 1708mhz right now.
My testing is pretty much just firing up Crysis or ArmA II benchmark. If it passes multiple times its good by me. Don't really care for running Pi and all that stuff.
So when I raise the BCLK to 143 it auto resets the computer during Crysis. Its fine at desktop and doing normal tasks though.
Should I up the Vcore more and the DIMM voltage? Obviously this chip can OC much more. Temps are perfect. right now with BCLK @ 142 idle at 25-29c and load in the 40's (While playing Crysis!) We keep our AC on a lot lol, so its cool in the house too.
Also should I keep the QPI frequency setting on Auto? Or put it at the 6.4 selection??
Some more specs - I have Dummy OC off, XMP (Xtreme memory profiles) off (Manually set the memory to its factory 1600mhz when I put them in)
Oh and rig is in my siggy. Mobo has most up to date BIOS wich is a rock solid version.
edit: oh and here is this if it helps. (In Bios the CPU mhz shows 3010Mhz and bus speed at 143)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3431/...72d3bbf5_b.jpg
here's my new accomplishment on this board :D hopefully i can push it little bit further than that.
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...hotos/5048.jpg