So far every time I have tried auto tune the PC has locked up on me. :(
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So far every time I have tried auto tune the PC has locked up on me. :(
nuts24, that is possible and it means that AutoClock found the limit, you can return to the last good value by hitting reset, rebooting OS and loading AOD and clicking "apply settings" under the AutoClock tab.
edit: and please update to 2.1.4 before trying again (make sure to remove the old xml files from AOD installation folder as well)
Sorry to hear that Polaco. From the description it sounds like there is a problem with HT ref. clock adjustment. Which BIOS version on the MSI board (I assume the latest?). a BIOS spin could solve this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polaco
Also, please make sure you shut down other monitoring / overclocking apps before running AOD. Apps like CoreCenter, CPUZ, HWMonitors, GPUZ etc. These might cause conflicts.
Thanks for the update, Macci.
By the way, regarding the coldbug issues some people experience here. Are they really 100% cpu related? IIRC, when the Phenom was not out on the market, you said you were able to bench at -70°C. Were you really?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=125
I never said I was able to bench at -70C I said that the earlier (pre-production) parts would boot fine at -80C (agreed - it was an unneeded comment :D). at that point I had not tried the production version - and as you know its a bit different story. the sweet spot right now seems to be chilled water or a bit below zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by massman
You answered what was needed to raise interest, no hard feelings. The reason why I ask is because I have been able to bench at -35°C and have 0 coldbug issues, while other people have issues at +5°C or even higher. I know that coldbugs are mainly cpu related, but I find it quite hard to believe that mine does so well under cold while the stepping/batch are nothing close to being special.
Is it possible that certain motherboards don't cope with sub 10°C cpu's? Tye mentioned somethings about the K10 IMC temperature rates being around 10°C (will look that up).
as i said before i can name you 100 pieces of software that work flawlessly on windows, after half of the revisionsQuote:
Originally Posted by GD5015
yes i do speak longer, its called having something to say, unlike you, who decides to flame bait with stupid comments, how you work out im shouting is beyond me, you got a microphone in my house?...lolQuote:
The only bully I see in this thread is you. You shout louder, longer, and more often than anyone else here. Might I invite you to visit another thread.
and so we kick off with v2.1.4, anyone got a problem?...lol
then it doesnt do what it is supposed to do, therefore a fail...lolQuote:
Only problem I have is only 1 GPU is shown.
and so we kick off with v2.1.4, anyone got a problem?...lol
AOD v2.1.4., here we go again (all performed on a clean image (no previous AOD) of Vista 32 bit) :shrug:
1) lock up and squeeling from speakers, when HT ref slider moved by 5 mhz and hitting apply, (rig at stock 2.5 gig, stock multi and stock HT ref in bios)
2) moving multi slider from 12.5 to 13 results in same lock up as above
2) nothing but temps in status monitor/ board status
3) nothing in GPU status (cause its an nvidia card doh)
4) system information/diagram view no card detected in any Pcie slot
same old, same old here, as far as i can see nothing has changed, how you doing macci with that new AX78 of yours?
i will give this poll 7 more days, combining input from other users at AMD forums, and two other well known forums, i fully intend to publish these results, good or bad, using this and other data to back up my claims. including me, i have allready seen 5 to 6 cases of this not doing anything new, and has not fixed a number outstanding issues, that were meant to be addressed in the 2.1.4. release.
since the last 'discussion' i have managed to get hold of two other mob's, for the purposes of being fair, i wll not mention the makers, other than i have 1 more SB600based board, and one SB750 based board, both leave a lot to be desired with AOD 2.1.4. so far, although i have still to bench them with a 9850BE yet, both have been benched with 5000BE x2.
and of course i will pass on my results ...lol
let the flame baiting begin...lol
Your problem is the simple fact that abit did not support AOD functionality with the AX78. If the BIOS support is not there, then AOD is not going to operate correctly. Change boards or complain to abit, otherwise you will continue to have problems. It really is that simple. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by soundood
i do hear you and have taken it on board, but its not about ABIT, where does it say in this release that it works on certain boards? and doesnt for others.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
in the marketing it states you need a 7 series chipset, i have it. but AOD doesnt work. who's fault is that? AMD like any other designer has tight control on there 'referance' designs, hence why nearly all the 770 boards are the same.
as for changing boards, you didnt read my post correctly, i bnow have three mobo's here, 2 x sb600's and 1 x SB750, all are showing problems with AOD, granted small probs, but probs all the same.
it is really that simple :shakes:
ohh and for every post i have here telling me i am at fault or the board is at fault or andy pandy is at fault, i have one that says otherwise, i also have a lot of support in this, i dont stand alone here, like a newbie. i know exactly what i am talking about. and will continue with this until i see an acceptable resolution. ie: if AMD releases this software with a compatible board list.
I'll check that. It worked perfectly with the old green theme though, this started happening with the new gui.Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Well, I've tested by switching from Classic to XP and then it works. Though, I really hate the bloated XP look so I quickly switched back to classic and I guess I have to live with this until there is a fix.
AOD is a system tool and a free one at that, so complaints about how well it works or demanding resolution about a program you did not pay for is just funny to me. ;) I am not going to say that the base code has not had problems, it has but AMD has fixed it rather quickly after being notified about issues. However, it is up to the board suppliers as to how well they will support it within their BIOS. This covers the gambit from simply reporting correct clock or thermal numbers to actually allowing changes to various BIOS options.Quote:
Originally Posted by soundood
AMD does not control the BIOS designs of the various board manufacturers. They provide core code and it is up to the supplier whether to use it as is or to customize for their particular purposes. As such, once they customize the BIOS, all bets are off about the level of integration with AOD. I know AMD receives BIOS releases from each supplier on a periodic basis and they do their best to incorporate particular hooks into the program to ensure "best possible" results at that point in time.
So, if you want to know if your board is fully compatible or not with AOD, write the board supplier and find out. If you do not like the level of support, then complain to the board suppliers. If you find a true problem with the program like we did with the AHCI/RAID bug with ACC, then notify AMD.
AMD has never guaranteed this program to be compatible with every board, nor the should they as it is the board suppliers responsibility to determine it. If you do not like the program, then do not use it, nobody is forcing you to try a free program. If you want to overclock, use the BIOS and be done with it if AOD is not working for you.
Also, your statements are confusing to say the least, in one section you state the program does not work and in the next you state it does but with small problems. Which is it?
This is no different then the "I hate M$ because they can't guarantee everything works perfectly in Windows" when Microsoft has no control over other people drivers and software.
2.14 is looking good, I now have ACC available in the app while using AHCI just as promised. I'll play with it a bit and report back.
sweet. i am going to reload with AHcI and see how it does.
Soundood,
Please post a poll for each of these 100 pieces of software that work flawlessly for you.
Yes, you continue to speak and speak and speak. But you ran out of things to say days ago. Everyone here knows your feelings on AOD, yet you continue to expound, ad nauseum, along the same line. And you have no desire to find a solution or cause.
Yes, I do have an issue with AOD, but I do not find it useless. Perfection is not attainable, no matter how much you desire it.
Flame baiting? Me thinks you protest too much.
IGNORED: REASON: NOTHING TO SAYQuote:
Originally Posted by GD5015
I don't use it for overclocking but... I do like that Stability Tester and Monitor. It'll tell ya real quick how your OC is.
There's a first.Quote:
Originally Posted by soundood
Macci thank you
Some of the stuff i posted about is now fix with the 2.1.4 one of the big thing was the ACC if i want to use it in AOD i can now and it has the board setting i'am using right now . The the HT mulit is right now showen as 10 as it should for how i got the board set . Be nice if the GPU stuff all posted right but that a fix for another day. The point being is on my rig AOD got better, is it all fix nope .But as long as you can see it getting better i think is all you can ask for and it free.
i would say it works very well, 3544 mhz http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=773427 i see 3.5 or maybe 3.6 0n h2o coming soon. i think i will try to use aod to do it .:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by soundood
Thanks for the update, ACC now works with Raid for me.
Makes it a little easier to tinker with the ACC settings rather
than rebooting every time to test.
macci all iterations I have used in 3 of my Gigabyte boards (790FX-DQ6, 780G-S2H and 790GP) have worked flawlessly. Thankyou. :)
I should add that I'm using Vista x64.
soundood your treatment and abuse to/of macci is deplorable.
He has spent thousands of hours here helping people with AMD related problems and isn't an XIP for nothing.
Pls show some respect.
Hi macci,Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
I have flashed the motherboar BIOS to it's lastest version with MSI update utility and BANG! AOD start working like a charm. I was using bios version 1.6 and now 1.7. So everyone who has an K9A2 cf f v2 should do that.
I have been running some 3dmark06 benchmarks and point hasn't increased using the AOD novice mode on level "4". But doesn't matter.
Would be great to have some reference guide/information from AMD/ATI as:
-what does each part of the system work for interactions with others parts.
-which are considered "safe" oc values and what is better to oc and what not, and other things to consider.
For instance if you increase this feature also check this other..
Now we have a lot of control on speed but if we don't know how to use it and each feature risk we could end up melting or hardware for nothing.
thanks a lot macci.
Polaco.
Thanks for the tips macci, but v2.1.4 of AOD did not work for me, I think the motherboard is at fault & I have sent it back. I now have my old motherboard back in & can not use AOD. I am now waiting on a refund so I can buy my next board, but will not be buying Asus again. My old motherboard the M2N32-SLI Delux took 4 repairs and two exchanges (Total time to get a working board 14 weeks), the new Asus board I got looks like it could be faulty as well.
So do I go cheap and get the Biostar 790GX or do go high and get the Gigabyte 790GX? or do I wait and hope a better board comes out using the SB750 chipset?
You can restore the old green AOD theme - that's actually what I meant by "switching to the classic skin" (not Windows OS theme).Quote:
Originally Posted by Liqourice
I posted the instructions and the AOD classic Green theme skin file HERE
hope that will work as a hotfix until a new release is available to fix this properly
I wonder if "Cool And Quiet" can be enabled in the BIOS or should always be disabled when using AOD?
I guess AOD can disable it when it's activated and then restore it to it's original value or not?
thanks a lot,
Polaco.
Hi Polaco,Quote:
Originally Posted by Polaco
You can leave CnQ enabled in the SBIOS if you want and then enable / disable it from Windows via the Power Option menu in Windows Control Panel (Balanced or Power Saver modes enable CnQ and High Performance mode disables CnQ). This way you dont need to reboot to enable it.
CnQ should be disabled when using AOD for CPU multiplier Overclocking. AOD doesnt automatically disable/enable CnQ in the currently available version.
Oki!
Thanks a lot Macci.
It will be great for newbies if AMD or someone release a guide of system tuning/overclocking on a pure AMD-ATI system. What are the benefits of oc each feature and the cares one should take.
A tool could be better if people know how to use it at it's best.
do you see this happening sometime?
thank a lot for your help.
Polaco.
so there yu have it, a third of AOD users cant get it to work.
not that impresive really, considering that it is one of there main marketing tools.
and i will accept this as final.
better luck next time AMD, i wonder what revision will ever work?
I think your being a bit harsh there....Quote:
Originally Posted by soundood
Its quite possible that of the users that report it not working there are configuration or compatability issues, or issues related to factors outside of AMD's control, such as BIOS availability, user knowledge etc..etc.. to name but a few...
It would be helpful if there were a user friendly users guide for AOD, produced either by AMD or mobo manufacturers, or even both in conjunction to assist users implement AOD correctly, however the very nature of AOD is that it is meant for the enthusiast who should be pretty familiar with a lot of issues that can occur anyway, its not a big stretch to say that of the 1/3rd of users that are having difficulty some will be users who are newcomers to overclocking, in fact its to be expected that a lot of newcomers will be trying AOD I guess, and as such its possible that they aren't familiar with troubleshooting issues as they occur.... the other main issue is of course compatability and thrid party support for AOD such as BIOS upgrades etc....
The fact that the majority of users report that AOD works confirms that the issue is not so much with AOD but more likely rests with factors outside of AMD's control, as such your statement "better luck next time AMD, i wonder what revision will ever work?" is entirely inaccurate......
Exactly...I don't see how I can run AOD on three totally different boards and not have these major issues being talked about, that make it so you say "bad lil AMD..Bad"..A FREE app given with intent to help aid in tweaking, and not guaranteed by AMD to work with all boards..since it is baord manufactures choice to emplament features to work with it. That is why you do not always see the CPU Core Voltage or Mem voltage etc show for everyone. My Sapphire 780g board has a new bios that has the option for AOD compatibility mode. when on..it turns of all controls in bios that AOD would best control. But both ( on or off) work almost the same. So I must just get the good downloads of all the versions I run, since Mine work fine...?Quote:
Originally Posted by kazgirl
Macci I have found that my core speed for my 4870 is not being read in AOD 2.1.4. Memory speed is ok.
MB is Gigabyte 790GP bios is F2A.
4870 is Gigabyte too.
mine does only when I use the stock bios. But it does show either way under system info diagram tab.. well mine is a HD 4850,....with RBE bios...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie FX
I loaded AOD 2.14 onto the M3A79-T system today and it works very well (for AOD that is). I was truly surprised how smooth the whole experience was finally. We are definitely getting there....for sure
jetway 780G board has that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
I want know something since you used the MSI K9A2 platinum.
in AOD under stats tab in motherboard status it show VCore at 1.3 also it shows Vin,1,2,3,4
1.08
0.86
0.86
0.71
I wanted to know if this normal and if it's all equal on the sb750 ?
This is facking painful too read,I had to stop after 2 pages so I don't
know if someone mentioned that a guy named KTE had the AX78 and in
fact gave a full list full of problems (with the board) to the Abit.
Aod has worked for me on:
MSIK9A2/DFI790fxM2r/AsusM3a/DFI790gx
Hell the earlier versions even work on my NF4 Expert and Infinity m2/g
The Asus M3a (770 chipset) is very limited in terms of AOD's usability,and
believe me I wasn't too pleased to find that out
It's only about 20% usability (in terms of the AOD's sliders/indicators) where's
with the DFI's it's 100% .I don't think there is a 770 based board
with complete AOD support,if there was a lot of people would have gotten
that instead of 790fx.
Anyway just wanted to say (after reading first 2 pages )that if you lay blame on AMD for the manufacturer's screw ups that's not exactly fair.
Once again you speak without using what intelligence you do possess. I am one of the 30% and no where did I say I can't get it to work. I have noticed several other posters say the same thing. So the real point of this poll seems to be to find fault at any cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by soundood
AMD makes no warranty claim for AOD, it is a free program that is useful to the majority of AMD users. You are unlucky enough to not be included in this group. Unfortunate for sure, but hardly a reason for AMD to stop all production and write new code specifically for your system. AMD continues to service the program, address issues, and release updates. Others with your motherboard have had AOD run. This suggests a configuration issue and not a hardware specific issue. No one in their right mind would expect software to run on 100% of all configurations, especially on hardware that the manufacturer is discontinuing, yet you do.
I would be willing to go out on a limb here and suggest that Abit may have short-changed their customers, knowing that they had no intention of keeping them. Hope your next venture is more fruitful for you.
This is exactly what I and others have told this person but he won't listen. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by GD5015
Same here: just says 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie FX
HIS 4850 single or CF on DFI LP 790gx
09/18/2008 beta bios,was the same thing on the stock BIOS and on the ASUS M3a
With 2.1.4 my # of gpu cores is still at 4 in Vistax86. I thought at one time they were simply reading as duplicate pairs but I was mistaken. As an example I had AOD open on the extended monitor while running TigerWoods 2008 and I see only one core is used (no duplicate), turning up the eye candy and all four were back in use. Another game had 3 cores at 825 (normal 3d speed) and one at 300. ACK!! Fairly strange considering I only have one 3870x2.
On the bright side, I created a minor oc and saved the profile as the default named profile, returned to default settings, shut down AOD, started Fusion with AOD selected and it turned on the OCs. Very good! When disengaging Fusion the overclocks returned to normal values.
Well, with the new Asus M3A79-T, and AOD 2.14, I have found the whole experience to be quite good finally.
AOD actually works VERY well finally. As does RAIDExpert and CCC 8.9
As a matter of fact, it all works together in a bizarre way, and it looks like the software development teams inside AMD/ATI are actually communicating with each other on some level :up:
2.14 solved nearly all the problems I was having. And with a couple of hacks to remove some obvious safeties from the config files, AOD has become a respectable overclocking tool finally.
I remember the early days of NTune also from Nvidia. That was just as nasty, and even more crash prone on certain motherboards. Only the true OEM/ODM companies set their BIOS up to support it (Foxconn/Jetway/EVGA/BFG)
All the others were a mess all the time :)
People, lets be more friendly with each other, important informations are being reported here for our own good.
...
I really hope AOD to be released under Linux.If yes, I'd jump to AMD in a second.
Another "issue" here on the 790gx from DFI- when changing the HTT reference
with AOD it does change but AOD is not showing the difference.
For example when changing a multy with AOD it shows the "new" speed
in the "current speed" indicator, but not with HTT neither for NB or HT.
IT only shows 2.5 or 2.6 but not 2.63 etc.NB would show AS 2200 BUT 2222
WHEN htt IS CHANGED.
tHE VIDEO RAM AMOUNT shows 192 not 512 on 2 machines.
I guess to get Macci's attention we'll have to start insulting AMD and
saying that we'll leap forward with Intel if he doesn't respond:ROTF:
just kidding,but would be nice to get some info.
:)
Told Ya So, 2.1.4 doesnt solve a thing apart from AHCI and RAID issues
forgive me if this statement seems a little understated
C'mon Soundood.....
'fess up.... your poll shows that the majority of users report AOD as working.
Are there still problems...???......YES..!!!!
Are those problems the fault of AMD..???....NO..!!!
Majority of issues reported can be linked to inadequate BIOS support for AOD....!!!!
AOD and the way it works.... is to link directly to the system BIOS from the Windows environment and make on-the-fly changes.... the very nature of these types of changes can and will cause instability, system freezes, lock-ups, BSOD's, RSOD's....etc..etc.... AOD tells you this each and every time you start it up...!!!!!
AOD is an aid to overclocking and system monitoring, nothing more...nothing less.....
its a tool... like all tools, it will sometimes be the right tool for the job, and at other times it will not.... depending on whether or not it is suitable for the job.
Consider the following analogy:
If you are hanging a picture on a wall, what do you use...????...
Sticky tape..??, A nail..???, a screw..??, a picture hook.....??
Depends on a number of factors...right..???
What's the wall surface material, - plaster..??, wood..??, concrete..??, metal..??
Whats the picture... - a poster...???, a framed print...???, a canvass oil painting..??, a precious work of art.....???
Each has its own place.... and you choose the right tool for the job, you might not need the hammer and nail to hang a poster and sticky tape will do, but you are still glad of a hammer and nail when you need to hang a framed print...!!!
OK we get it..... AOD doesn't work on your current system, so its not the tool for the job for you.... right now....
But if/when you get a system that it does work on, what do you use, the sticky tape to hang a framed painting or the hammer and nail, that you kept for just such a job.... even though it wasn't needed for the poster...
AOD is a tool.....GET IT...??? Its one of many.....!!!!
The more tools there are the easier it can be to get a job done.....
using the analogy above..... lets say you move to a new home.... you want to hang some pictures..... you have an assortment of pictures... posters, framed prints, a family portrait.....
But all you have is some sticky tape, what do you do, you can get the posters put up, but you can't finish the job and put up the others because you don't have the right tools...!!!!!!!
AOD will NEVER be able to provide 100% support for all systems..... it was never meant to.... its simply another tool that has been provided for users to try.... there will be version after versin after version as it tries to accomodate new technology..... just like other tools..... how many releases of CPU-Z have there been, how many releases of any such tool that you would like to mention have there been.....
The fact that there have been as many versions of AOD as there has been, is testimony to AMD's support for their users..... they could have just abandoned this tool if they so wished.... but instead they keep working on ways of improving it to benefit users......
I for one am grateful for that effort from AMD...!!!
And once again you contradict yourself in your statement..
The contradiction in those words is so blatant, that it just serves to remind us of how blinkered you are in your observations on AOD.... 2.1.4 soves nothing..???Quote:
Told Ya So, 2.1.4 doesnt solve a thing apart from AHCI and RAID issues
Well it solves AHCI and RAID issues.... which was a problem reported as affecting users, and it has now been solved.
Maybe it shouldn't have been a problem in the first place, but it was and now its been fixed....what more can you ask for... should we ask AMD to do the impossible and travel back in time and ensure that the original release incorporates all the fsolutions to problems that have been discovered ONLY through its use by a wider variety of users.... of course not..!!!!!!
AMD has done the right thing, by doing its best to fix any problems as and when they occur...... thats about all that anyone can ask..!!!!!
Here endeth the lesson.......!!!!!!!!!!!
all i can say is wow, you must type at 60 words a minute or something, trust me i am past 'hating' AOD, to be honest i never did hate it, i just think that it 'should' be 100% for all 770 boards upwards, and it isnt, so thats that for me.
opinion is a great thing, my worries at the moment involve the words 'pension' and 'up **** creek without a paddle'
i was reading somewhere on the forum you have placed an order with oFFike for a Asus M3A79-T? i heard they were cowboys and are a lot of hassle to order from, they will charge your card even though they dont have stock of something, and then keep you waiting for months.
i like the restock date they got...lol, far as i can make out on the grapevine, they will be here Oct 27th, i have one ordered and have been asured that they will be here by then, mate of mine works for BT shop/dabs.com, and he has got an inside line to ASUS, Batphone type of thing.
seriously hes a buyer for dabs, and has been in touch with the UK distributer.
so nothing till 27th.....darn,
Thanks for the inside info on the stock status, I can't comment on the reputation of Offike, I've never used them before, and as I said in my post regarding the order, I was a bit sceptical of whether they had stock or not...
I am aware that a few suppliers in the UK have had limited stock of these mobos already, however this stock went almost immediately, and new stock has been in short (read: non-existant) supply....
I too have heard the Oct dates being mentioned... and will be keeping a keen eye on things, and if there are any problems with my order with Offike I will make a claim via my card payment protection, and let the credit card co. sort it out with Offike...
I won't pass judegment on them yet, I will give them a chance, and see how they fare....!!
About AOD.... I am sorry that your experience has been a bad one with it, I've had good and bad with it myself, but I see no reason for castigating AMD for it....after all as I say above...its not their fault.... IMO they have provided a useful tool to add to what was already available...
I hope you get better lucj with whatever system/software you use in the future...!!
About the typing...LOL... yes I used to work in an office and have pretty good typing skills.... having qualified in typrewriting back in my school days, the old "asdf ;lkj" touch typing method.... I'm also prone to saying a lot more than is needed....!!! As you can tell.... :o
On the AX78, are you really seeing BOTH of these problems when using a Phenom CPU or one with Phenom and one with K8 (the 5000BE X2 you mention in your post)? I'm asking as this is NOT in line with what I see on AX78.Quote:
Originally Posted by soundood
I am seeing issue #1 if I use a Phenom on AX78 and issue #2 if I use a 5000BE X2.
I dont see #2 with Phenom and I dont see #1 with K8.
Issue #1 has to do with Clockchip programming (as I previously mentioned). the board (SBIOS) is programming the clock a bit too aggressively when AOD requests a clock adjustment on the fly. The fix is to change the clock programming code in the SBIOS. Unfortunately this has not been implemented on this particular board's SBIOS.
In case of K8 CPU (5000BE X2) this doesnt usually cause any issues (in fact I could jump from 200 to 240MHz in one shot without any issues w/ 5000BE X2). With Phenom a bigger HT ref. clock adjustment (on AX78) usually hangs the system. But it does work OK if you go in 1MHz steps.
I got it up to 224MHz (from 200MHz) via AOD when I adjusted 1MHz at a time - these steps:
1) set slider to 201 (it sets it back to 200MHz)
2) set slider to 202 (it sets it to 201MHz)
3) set slider to 203 (it sets it to 202MHz)
4) continue as far as needed
In case of Phenom the HT ref. clock is used for Fine tuning (As all the relevant multipliers are unlocked). so you dont usually need to adust this very much.
With Phenom 9600BE (I also tried 9850BE) I didnt see any problems adjusting the CPU multiplier or HT multiplier values (yes, I did try all HT multipliers and a number of HT+CPU multi combos). Please confirm if you saw this problem with Phenom or K8 (AX78 has problems with K8 and CPU multiplier, more details below).
Here is a screenshot of Phenom 9600BE with AOD 2.1.4 on AX78. I tuned the following items (system was booted up at default values from SBIOS):
CPU Multi to x13 - OK
HT Multiplier down to x7 - OK
adjusted CPU VID and CPU NB VID - OK (also measured with multimeter to confirm)
adjusted Memory voltage - OK (also measured with Multimeter to confirm)
adjusted HT ref. clock 1MHz at a time up to 224MHz (from 200MHz)
end result: a bit over 600MHz OVCK with default aircooling, all done on the fly with AOD on AX78.
Issue #2 was not seen on my AX78 (BIOS 1.3) with Phenom 9600BE or 9850BE. No problems with CPU multiplier or HT link multiplier adjustments with Phenom CPU (yes, I did try all HT multipliers and a number of HT+CPU multi combos).
I did see a problem with K8 (5000BE X2) though and it appears that AX78 SBIOS has fundamental problems with CPU multiplier control. CoolNQuiet doesnt work either - the multiplier is adjusting VERY slowly and to incorrect values (it goes to the low state even if OS is in High Performance mode). AOD and CoolNQuiet use the same commands to request multiplier changes, in case of this board the SBIOS doesnt do it correctly.
With K8 CPU the HT ref. clock slider and all voltage controls worked as they should though.
Here is a quick example of AOD clocking with K8 on AX78 board.
Note that the CPU VDDC slider tells you the actual CPU voltage in case of K8 CPU (as it controls the OFFSET on top of CPU VID value).
the HW monitoring chip on this board is not supported by AOD at this point.Quote:
2) nothing but temps in status monitor/ board status
Is this with K8 or Phenom?Quote:
NB vid, cant and wont go higher than 1.3 v (although bios allows it)
incorrect readings of CPU vid, allways sais 1.3 v, even though its 1.4v in bios, how do i adjust that in the knowledge its wrong?
In case of Phenom I didnt see an option to dial in the actual voltage in AX78 SBIOS, there was an option to adjust the OFFSET (+0.xx V) but no option for adjusting the CPU VID value or the actual CPU Voltage value (to 1.3 or 1.4V).
I didnt see a problem with CPU NB VID slider on AX78 when using Phenom CPU (see the screenshot - its at 1.45V and can go up to 1.55V).
Note that with K8 CPU there is no separate control for CPU NB VID.
With K8 CPU the CPU Voltage item (in SBIOS) is different and you can adjust the actual value (not just the offset). If I set it to say 1.400V then AOD would read the CPU VDDC slider at 1.400V (CPU VID at 1.300V as 1.400V actual voltage is achieved via OFFSET on top of VID value).
example:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080925/ax78Vcore.png
such as?Quote:
has not fixed a number outstanding issues, that were meant to be addressed in the 2.1.4. release.
What is the problem then? "For the purpose of being fair" you should mention the problem you see and the board (+SBIOS) you used. Then we can get it fixed :)Quote:
since the last 'discussion' i have managed to get hold of two other mob's, for the purposes of being fair, i wll not mention the makers, other than i have 1 more SB600based board, and one SB750 based board, both leave a lot to be desired with AOD 2.1.4.
If you read thru this thread you'll see that it fixed a number of other issues as well.Quote:
Told Ya So, 2.1.4 doesnt solve a thing apart from AHCI and RAID issues
as far as the accuracy of the poll:
there are folks who have voted "no" initially and now have got their AOD working (by updating to AOD 2.1.4, by updating motherboard SBIOS...) and would be voting "yes" at this point.
Let's get this out of the way first, SB600 sucks for Phenoms, it was design for Athlon64's even then it sucked. My biggest problem with the SB600 has been the USB controller, it has cause me a quite a few problems(I destroyed a KVM switch because of it).
Hey Macci
On 2.1.4 my only complaint about it is in Status Monitor>GPU Status>Engine shows 0 MHZ
On the M3A78-T and my new sweet ride M3A79-T Deluxe the same thing happened
Otherwise AOD 2.1.4 works great on the new board :up:
Originally Posted by soundood
AOD v2.1.4
1) lock up and squeeling from speakers, when HT ref slider moved by 5 mhz and hitting apply, (rig at stock 2.5 gig, stock multi and stock HT ref in bios)
2) moving multi slider from 12.5 to 13 results in same lock up as above
i concur, multi prob was more prevelant on the 5000 blacki i had in there, but still excists, ans thank you for explaining to me the issue, but it remains an issue all the same.Quote:
On the AX78, are you really seeing BOTH of these problems when using a Phenom CPU or one with Phenom and one with K8 (the 5000BE X2 you mention in your post)? I'm asking as this is NOT in line with what I see on AX78
I am seeing issue #1 if I use a Phenom on AX78 and issue #2 if I use a 5000BE X2.
I dont see #2 with Phenom and I dont see #1 with K8.
i beg to differ here, the sliders work, and also it will change the voltages, but the start voltage is not correct, it pretty much allways reads it wrong.Quote:
Here is a screenshot of Phenom 9600BE with AOD 2.1.4 on AX78. I tuned the following items (system was booted up at default values from SBIOS):
CPU Multi to x13 - OK
HT Multiplier down to x7 - OK
adjusted CPU VID and CPU NB VID - OK (also measured with multimeter to confirm)
adjusted Memory voltage - OK (also measured with Multimeter to confirm)
adjusted HT ref. clock 1MHz at a time up to 224MHz (from 200MHz)
whenever i touch the HT multi i get a lock up, up or down
as i said above i have trouble with the HT link multi with phenom or my blackie, but again it has problems as you have outlined.Quote:
Issue #2 was not seen on my AX78 (BIOS 1.3) with Phenom 9600BE or 9850BE. No problems with CPU multiplier or HT link multiplier adjustments with Phenom CPU (yes, I did try all HT multipliers and a number of HT+CPU multi combos).
I did see a problem with K8 (5000BE X2) though and it appears that AX78 SBIOS has fundamental problems with CPU multiplier control. CoolNQuiet doesnt work either - the multiplier is adjusting VERY slowly and to incorrect values (it goes to the low state even if OS is in High Performance mode). AOD and CoolNQuiet use the same commands to request multiplier changes, in case of this board the SBIOS doesnt do it correctly.
With K8 CPU the HT ref. clock slider and all voltage controls worked as they should though.
Quote:soundood
2) nothing but temps in status monitor/ board status
seems a bit shoddy, but at least its an answerQuote:
the HW monitoring chip on this board is not supported by AOD at this point.
offset or whatever you call it, this part of the bios alolows me to change the vcore from 1.3v to 1.4v, that AOD doesnt see in windows,Quote:
In case of Phenom I didnt see an option to dial in the actual voltage in AX78 SBIOS, there was an option to adjust the OFFSET (+0.xx V) but no option for adjusting the CPU VID value or the actual CPU Voltage value (to 1.3 or 1.4V).
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k.../IMAGE_006.jpg
maybe my understanding of this part is wrong? if so could you explain further?
as i said before i edited this post, i am extrememly busy at the moment, so this reply has been rushed a little, so please be patiant if it seems as though i am not replying properly now to something that i started, that is not the case.
you have my full attention on this matter, just not at the moment, hope i have given enough for you to look at and compare,
thanks for your investigation into this, if only for that i am impressed. :up:
Hi!
I wondered how much performance increase has people achieved using this tool and the seetings/hardware involved.
Maybe you can also add ATI clock seetings or AMD Fusion ones.
I have noticed a 12% performance increase with my Phenom 9550 on amd overdrive test by setting the HTT bus to 220Mmhz, however I don't know if this clocks values could be consider safe or not.
AMD should provide more information about overclocking it's hardware, things to take care, etc.
greetings!
I just replaced my X2 5200+ with a Phenom 9850BE on my Gigabyte MA790FX-DS5 and I've noticed some strange issues.
After raising the multiplier the computer runs faster, as it should. CPU-Z reports the correct speed but other software doesn't. CoreTemp for example reports 2.5 GHz with a lowered fsb rate times the multiplier I've set. 3DMark06 also reports it as 2.5 GHz even if I've run it at 2.9 according to AOD. THere is an increase since I increased the score in 3DMark from 13800 to 15200 moving from 2.5 to 2.9 GHz.
Another problem is that I've set the multiplier to 14.5x = 2.9GHz and adjusted cpu vid to make it stable, applied and saved. Though, after a reboot it's set to 14x = 2.8GHz. I cannot figure out why.
I just reinstalled AOD and changed MaximumVCoreEnabled to 1 in Preference.xml, but CPU VID still tops out at 1.25v. The actual CPU voltage is 1.36v. Any suggestions?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58...ator87/AOD.jpg
Wow 257mhz HT bus? with what are you cooling it? Is that clock speed safe?
How could I know when I am exceeding the HT bus speed and if I have to lower memory frecuencies? Does anyone knows some guide to oc Phenoms?
I dont get it. no matter what i do i cant get my NB speed to NOT rise all the time, no matter what i do with ANY of the multipliers, only the HTlink transport speed are affected
GA-MA790GP-DS4H 9950BE volts are not accurate either(it wont read what values i put in bios) Im looking forward to new bios and a AOD update.
I just reinstalled Vista and AOD 2.1.4 (Latest) and it still has issues on this board (sigh) work in progress I assume>>>>>> Is there any way to Edit AOD File to change to the BLACK Interface?????
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The Bios has option for CPU V-Core, AOD is showing CPU-VID. They are not the same. So the VID is correct in AOD. When increased It will add to your V-core value. I have this board..and the same chip.. I run F2a bios.. I can adjust NB HT-link etc with no issues... You have to bring down both HT link and NB in bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxxximum
mmm aod 2.1.4 shows 0 on GPU engine speed meter and -1 on GPU memory speed meter after installing catalyst 8.11.
I have reinstalling aod 2.1.4 and still shows nothing.
GPU-z however displays data perfectly. Seems that AMD people doen't know how to get data from their own hardware. Too weird.
Same here I get the same thing in XP & Vista with AOD, it was like that after I applied the hotfix drivers for 8.10, and now with drivers 8.11 it is the same thingQuote:
Originally Posted by Polaco
Same here. Guess we'll just have to wait for a new AOD. (Or maybe they'll "fix" the video drivers.)
2.1.4 never showed any information for me since Catalyst 8.10
it amazes me that macci was so 'up' on this version, but yet here we are with not clock issues, or HT ref not working or something like that.
there own hardware is not being 'read' by there own software?
god, a third party app like GPU-Z has no peoblem with this, why not AOD?
this just proves my point with this software, that everybody was 'defending'
its rubbish
mmm I don't know if it is rubbish exactly.. but it's not going as well as they state and AMD don't seem to care about it. It would be great that instead of having to install AOD, Catalyst and Fusion all this come included in some software specially designed for amd-ati platforms or something like that. That would be real fusion. Also would be great that this software automanages pc power scheme and overcloking when running games or heavy loads of job. Not to mention that the ATI fan control it's still depressing (I have modified the bios months ago to handle this issue properly).
Don't get me wrong I love this ati 4850 and the little phenom but I just think the software isn't up to this hardware.
I wonder if this celebrity is using 2.15? :scope:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...0586&Itemid=35
Well, I won't say it work great because overclock should be set up in BIOS IMHO, however it does seem that the DFI Lanparty DK 790FXB-M2RSH has most of the required hooks for AOD functionality.
I'm using v2.1.4
I had my two 4870's on my Gigabyte board and AOD detected both cards and provided readings on them but when I moved the cards to my new system using the Asus M3A79-T and it doesn't detect them on this board. I get the 0 and -1 readings as others have. Thats with AOD 2.1.4 on both boards.
Thought it was known by now that the blac interface is only available with SB750 mobo's, any other and its the Red GUI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
I havn't had many problems at all with v.2.1.4.
Its not 100% perfect, for sure, but it works where I need it to work, and thats to change settings on the fly, and test, before setting in BIOS and re-testing.
Like others, I too have the issue with GPU Status, but I think this is more to do with the ATI Drivers than it is AOD itself, as it used to work OK for me on my M3A32-MVP with older Cat Drivers.
But since installing on this mobo, and updating Catalyst to 8.11, its no longer working...!!
The other issue is with the system info page, and again is mainly to do with the GPU info,with everything else being fine. Then there's the System Info Diagram, now that doesn't work so well as it only detects my RAM, CPU and GFX Cards..... and of those it places my RAM in the same Channel, wehn its actually setup in Dual Channel.
The Diagram doesn't detect any of my USB Devices, DVD-RW, HDD's etc....!!
But the whole Diagram thing is more of a novelty gimmick IMO, and hasn;t really got any practical use, just a bit of eye-candy...!!!
Nice if it works..YES... but not improtant at all...!!!
THe main functionality of AOD is fine though, at least in my experience of 2.1.4 with the M3A79-T
I've got no cause for complaint about it as it makes any changes that I need it to make really......with perhaps the one exception that I would like to have, being the absence of the NB Multiplier.... the HT Multiplier is there, but theres' nothing for the NB Multiplier, and of course the HT Multiplier is bound to the NB Multiplier at least on the M3A79-T, so the HT Multiplier Max setting in AOD is limited by whatever the NB Multiplier is set at in the BIOS..... it would be useful to be able to adjust the NB Multi and the HT Multi in AOD...
Other than that one missing setting, I'm relatively happy with AOD 2.1.4
:D
Same here witrh AOD, GPU not working with AOD ever since I installed ATI 8.11. It worked fine with ATI 8.10...Then I installed the hotfixes and it didnt work anymore. Same thing with 8.11, I guess they are suppose to fix it with the New 8.12 coming out on Dec 12...
Nope! Does not work for me without major issue since concept of program last November:mad:
seems it has been around a little longer brother, here is the full revision history, i do sort of still hope that this thing works in full without glitches for the new Phenom II, somehow i dought it ever will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 1.0 (2007-5-23)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 1.1 (2007-5-31)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 1.1 (2007-6-1)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 1.2 (2007-6-8)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 1.3 (2007-6-18)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 1.4 (2007-6-20)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 1.5 (2007-7-11)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 1.6 (2007-7-16)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 1.7 (2007-7-31)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0 (2007-8-10)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0.1 (2007-8-17)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0.2 (2007-8-24)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0.3 (2007-8-31)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0.4 (2007-9-14)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0.6 (2007-9-25)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0.7 (2007-9-28)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0.8 (2007-10-12)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0.9 (2007-10-23)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0.11 (2007-11-26)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0.12 (2007-12-11)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0.16 (2008-01-18)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.0.17 (2008-02-26)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.1.0 (2008-03-14)
AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.1.1 Beta (2008-06-02)
AMD OverDrive Utility 2.1.2 (2008-06-11)
AMD OverDrive Utility 2.1.3 (2008-09)
AMD OverDrive Utility 2.1.4 (present)
It works, but I just overclock via BIOS. :cool:
Would this program work with a 5400+ with mobo M3N-HT HDMI Deluxe?
yes, it even works with semprons I did it with the le 1150 I have.Quote:
Originally Posted by HondaGuy
AM2+ form AMD all support AOD.
NOT able to install cuzz its not AMD 7 seriesQuote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666
My Spec:
-AMD 9950 2.6Ghz Quadcore Phenom Black Edition Processor
-Abit AX78 Motherboard
-ATI 1GB HD 4670 PCI-Express Gfx Card
-4GB DDR2 Kingston PC2 8500 1066Mhz RAM
AMD Overdrive recognises and allows tweaks to the CPU but the Motherboard and Gfx Card shows no information and cannot be tweaked.
Many months has passed from 2.1.4 release...
I wonder if AMD has forget about AOD. It understandable that it has some issues but not that they leave the application almost in a beta state.
Does anyone knows what's going on? Also AOD should be capable to change the system energy policy and not having to use AMD Power Monitor 123 to do it.
With catalyst 8.12 the GPU engine lecture it's still 0 and memory speed -1.
In it's current state AOD is not a serious solution and unadmisible for a company of the size as AMD.
Really dissapointing.
greetings,
Polaco
Does AOD detect voltage settings from the BIOS? I can't get it to work. If I put memory at 1066 @ 2.2v it goes back to default which cause system to be unstable on startup. I also disable apply last settings.
This is on 2.1.4 with Vista 64, Gskill DDR2-1000, DFI 790FX-M2RS (SB600) and Phenom X4 9850.
i think you will find they have done what i said they would do, 20 posts back, they have dumped this now, it never worked properly and it still doesnt work, with AM3 on the horizon, and uber clocks being achieved, they will be 'forgiven' by the AMD faithful for this little 'mishap' now they hope it will just disapear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polaco
i will never forgive this garbage, nor will i forget it, they can think themselves very lucky i am still a customer. i fully intend to hold them to task for this, at any opertunity.
couldnt agree moreQuote:
Also AOD should be capable to change the system energy policy and not having to use AMD Power Monitor 123 to do it.
With catalyst 8.12 the GPU engine lecture it's still 0 and memory speed -1.
In it's current state AOD is not a serious solution and unadmisible for a company of the size as AMD.
A completely new version of Overdrive is scheduled for Deneb (Phenom II) release in January. Be patient :up:
very good news, i look forward to it being as bad as the other releases, and nice to know that they officialy dumped on the Phenom 1 users.Quote:
Originally Posted by xoqolatl
same old, same old
all we need is Macci on here now to tell us 'how so much better this version is'
we wait with baited breath :up:
Works fine for me, neener neener? :p
How do you know that?Quote:
Originally Posted by xoqolatl
Will that benefit Phenom I users?
Anyway doesn't Phenom I users deserve an update earlier as ATI releases a driver monthly? At least till achieve some quality in the application? As I stated before they are AMD not the grocery arround the corner. What's going on? They don't have enough developers? A real solution it's avaited not 3 piece of crap: AOD + Fusion + AMD Power Monitor that crash each other...
:down:
soundood was right.
Does macci work for AMD and still looking at this thread?
I cannot change/apply VID voltage, there is no higher option than 1.25v, and my graphics card status is false (-1 mhz).
Hardware is X4 9550, TA790GX A2+, HD 4850, 4GB RAM
My BIOS date is 11-11-08.
Here's pic...
Please see my post about AX78 earlier in this thread. LINKQuote:
Originally Posted by richardaball
GFX card tweaking is not part of AOD, please use CCC or other 3rd party GFX card utilities.
GFX card monitoring has a problem in AOD 2.1.4 due to recent GFX driver change. 2.1.5 should take care of this problem.
there is a special "AOD block" in the BIOS which tells AOD which voltage rails are adjustable, what the values are set in the BIOS etc. In this case it seems that the Vdimm item is not reporting the proper value to AOD. I've seen this on a couple of boards with older BIOS - please try and confirm that your running the latest BIOS from DFI (I'll also confirm with DFI that they have fixed this).Quote:
Originally Posted by panzerchaos47
Just to make sure I understood this issue properly:
you set Vdimm to 2.2V in the BIOS, load OS and load AOD and AOD Vdimm slider shows up as 1.8V (in other words, it doesnt drop down to 1.8V until you hit "apply" in AOD)?
Or does the Vdimm actually drop to 1.8V as soon as Windows loads (and AOD is not set to apply settings automatically)?
If you set AOD to 2.2V it works OK?
Your CPU doesnt support VID values higher than 1.25V - its not an unlocked Black Edition / FX part. Your BIOS probably has an option to apply an OFFSET on top of the VID value (in which case the VID value still remains at 1.25V but the actual voltage level will be higher - please use HW monitor to read the actual Vcore level).Quote:
Originally Posted by Firestrider
GFX card monitoring problem same as above (AOD 2.1.4 & latest Catalyst versions).
CPU NB Multiplier is not adjustable on the fly. Its a technical limitation. Requires a reboot.Quote:
with perhaps the one exception that I would like to have, being the absence of the NB Multiplier.... the HT Multiplier is there, but theres' nothing for the NB Multiplier
VID value is locked to 1.25V max with Phenom 9500 (not an unlocked part).Quote:
Originally Posted by Assimilator87
We are working on getting another "Vcore" slider added to M3A79-T (and some other boards that use OFFSET or VID-override methods).
I am a noob to PC's not to computers.When i saw AOD i thought it might be a good idea.
I have a 9750 w MSI Platinum mobo and everytime-not sometimes-i used it instead the bios it went KE-RASH.
I dont remember the version ill ck when i get home.Just maybe one of those things that work well in theory but not in practical use.
It works best with recent Bioses...As some older Bioses can not give AOD propper info.. Thus not allow some function to work propper. At least this is what ive seen .
though i usually Oc through Bios ,,
AOD has come a long way and works a treat for most users that take time to really know its functions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by soundood
WAHEY, MACCI IS BACK TO HAUNT US WITH A NEW VERSION OF AOD, V2.1.5. FOLKS !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Sry macci i couldnt resist it,
and heres the song to prove it,
song for macci
On Gigabyte ma790fx-DQ6 bios B6 with 9850, why does the Auto overclock function lower the HT lower and lower and lower till it gets down to around 130 than crash every time?
Macci,
Do you know if there is some improvement in power managment in AOD 2.1.5?
Any chance to replace AMD power monitor and fusion in all in one integrated product?
I really hope 2.1.5 really revindicate AOD since all the previous versions contains several serious bugs not just an improvised thing to promote Phenom II...
thanks,
Polaco.
Please work with Biostar and Gigabyte on this too! Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
What is the difference between Power Monitor and Overdrive? I don't see increased functionality in Power Monitor over Overdrive. Adding a tab to disable services and background processes in Windows (pretty much what Fusion does) with Overdrive would be a nice thing though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polaco
Gave this a good test run the other night while doing some cold air benching.
Im impressed really. Definetly not substitute for the bios, but then no software can.
What i really liked was the direct access to the VID, my bios doesnt give me that, at settings over 1.55vid, it gives + on top like you mentioned. With its max setting of 1.7v, 1.5vid + 0.2v bump, i was able to push that to 1.75v, and with some VDD boost from the bios, got my vcore up close to 1.9v, was more than happy with that :)
Also love the option to ramp up the multis on single cores, and so do my superpi/pifast runs :D
My only gripes are:
- crash on launch when cpuz or other hw apps are open already. I just got in the habit of launching AOD first, then cpuz, never had a problem since i did that.
- making htt ref clock changes seem a bit unstable. Even lowering them at high frequencies caused lockups, might not be something you can fix though. Again, software can't replace the bios
- sometimes when it crashes, the Preferences.xml file gets set back to default, meaning i have to set it back to advanced mode from kiddie mode (why is there a kiddie mode in the first place???), and the MaxVcore option gets set back to 0, with no option to enable it in the gui. Is this supposed to happen? its really the only thing that annoyed me.
Not really much to gripe about though, they're minor problems in light of what this thing lets you do, built in stress test is nice too.
Big +1 from me, great work !
That could happen if the stability tester finds any errors. Sounds like your system might not be stable at the default clocks. You are running 2 x 2GB at 1066MHz? Have you tried Memtest (or other stand-alone memtesters) to check if the rig is 100% stable?Quote:
Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck
Hehe, awesome song! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by soundood
2.1.5 will be a minor release, no dramatic changes. AOD3 will have more updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polaco
Thanks for the positive feedback and detailed report! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cluster
I'll try to answer these:
True, the 3rd party monitoring apps should be closed before running AOD. The reason is that those tools are regularly accessing things like PCI registers, SMBus etc - this can cause a conflict with AOD.Quote:
My only gripes are:
- crash on launch when cpuz or other hw apps are open already. I just got in the habit of launching AOD first, then cpuz, never had a problem since i did that.
Just to make sure: did you have CPUZ open when it hangs? HT ref. clock adjustment will eventually fail if CPUZ (or other tool that reads/writes from/to SMBus) is running. See if closing CPUZ (or other tools) improves the stability here. the other recommendation is to take relatively small HT ref. clock steps (1-3MHz steps). Also: on some boards the ref. clock adjustment phase takes a relatively long time (several seconds).Quote:
- making htt ref clock changes seem a bit unstable. Even lowering them at high frequencies caused lockups, might not be something you can fix though. Again, software can't replace the bios
This is annoying - I definitely agree (happens to me all the time!). We'll need to fix that.Quote:
- sometimes when it crashes, the Preferences.xml file gets set back to default, meaning i have to set it back to advanced mode from kiddie mode (why is there a kiddie mode in the first place???), and the MaxVcore option gets set back to 0, with no option to enable it in the gui. Is this supposed to happen? its really the only thing that annoyed me.
That actually makes sense about the ref clock adjustments and cpuz. I suppose there's no real clean way work around that either. I'll just have to keep it in mind while im benching.
Something else i forgot to ask, what exactly does that little green button do? lol I've been trying to figure that out, it does seem to have an effect on my vcore, a very minor one, maybe .02v less, but my temps just come crashing down when im idle. I think one of the biggest drops i see was somewhere up around 1.8v, 45c idle, and click the green button and the temps fall into the 20s, although, it did lower my benching scores, so i just leave it as it was.
Thought i would pimp out a couple of screenshots of some of the benching i did with AOD at the helm.
Here's my gold cup pifast run for 9850s. I actually had 4 consecutive runs getting me 1st place scores, first was with 227, upto 231, crashed at 232.
http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?i...85&thumb=false
My silver cup SPi32m run
http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?i...82&thumb=false
And a 5th place wPrime32 run
http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?i...83&thumb=false
The difference is that if you change the power scheme with AMD PowMon and then you open AMD Overdrive it freezes the pc. So it seems that there is a conflict in some way between them taking control of this feature at the same time.Also is smarter since you can enable disable all at once and not having to use 3 diferent applications.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firestrider
I want to do some tests with all services of VISTA 32 Home Premium disabled.
Does anyone knows what service must I turn on only for Overdrive to work?
I found one at the top and enable it, but I still get a message that I need to Run it as administrator.
The same message was before I turn on this service, so I believe that maybe I need to enable some more services..
Any ideas??
To "Run as Administrator" you can right-click on the desktop shortcut of AOD and select the option or to make it permantent (better), open the shortcut Properties and click Advanced then tick Run As Administrator and OK.