Are you holding down the Clear CMOS button [without the power cable in] for at least 5 seconds?Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
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Are you holding down the Clear CMOS button [without the power cable in] for at least 5 seconds?Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
Yes absolutely. (and repeatedly :D)Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
This was the exact same problem before, it will not post with these 2GB sticks, and every time the board resets itself to the stock defaults the board will not post.
The ONLY way I got it up and running before was to put in cheap 2x1GB RAM and then go into the BIOS and set everything for my 4x2GB RAM. Then I hit "save & Exit"
Right after "Save & Exit" when it had shut down I pulled the plug, then I pulled out the cheap RAM and swapped in my nice 2GB sticks.
Then I plugged in back in and turned on and it booted.
But sometimes it seems now when it crashes it is setting the board back to defaults and then there is nothing that can make it post short of the swap trick I used before.
The problem is that that cheap RAM is no longer here so Im screwed.
if anyone can help that would be great.
You can try just one 2GB stick then, can't lose nothing more than a mere 10 seconds of your time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
I tried this before the other day and it didnt work, but tried it again just now anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
1x2GB in the white slot = freezing on error code "26" or "2b" (not sure which it is supposed to be saying)
1x2GB in the blue slot = freezing on error code "26" or "2b"
So same thing in either slot.:(
oh and its not beeping like crazy anymore.
Unfortunately it's not only the foxconn having that problem with certain corsair ram. For some reason they require more voltage to post than a lot of mobo defaults provide.
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Originally Posted by loonym
When I got it working before I set the RAM to 1.9V and then swapped it in and it posted.
However it is not just the Corsair, I also had this problem with the 8GB of OCZ 1600Mhz RAM before. I RMAed the OCZ ram because I thought that the OCZ was broken and bought the Corsair. Little did I know the same problems would continue... :p:
Seems like the higher end 2GB sticks need more voltage to post and this MB is not giving it to them.
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I'm calling a buddy and going to lean on him to loan me a stick of RAM out of his PC. :p:
SHlT, if that is the case, I'm out of ideas man. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by loonym
This board has an error checker, but I can't see to find an error list? Did I inadvertently lose it?
Nope, its not in any of the documentation, and its not posted online either.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuriousSalesman
I think we are supposed to somehow guess what they mean. :p:
Also I have gotten the board up and running again after I stole a stick of RAM from a friend.
All I had to do to get it to post was put the RAM at 1.81V, save, exit, and swap.
They need to update the BIOS to automatically put more volts. This board is only volting the memory at 1.63V default, which apparently is not enough to get high end 2GB sticks to post.
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And I have gotten it to 6-6-6-18 1T @ 1066Mhz which is actually pretty tight timings for 8GB of DDR3, even though it won't let me increase the Mhz much.
The bios needs to get off 1T default, 2T is needed for dual rank 128x8 IC's even just using 1 if booting at 1333 or higher.
I have been able to get the board more stable but am getting different readings from different utilities.
I have set the BIOS to 400FSB (1600Mhz), 9X multiplier (3.6Ghz), 1:2.665 RAM ratio (1066Mhz).
EIST is OFF. C1E is OFF.
Here is what cpu-z and coretemp show (they both disagree with the BIOS):
http://planetimagehost.com/images/4527_oc1.jpg
So cpu-z is showing VERY low volts when cpu is set at 1.32v in BIOS. It is not showing ANY overclock, when BIOS says 3.6Ghz.
Coretemp is showing same 3.6Ghz as BIOS, but it is showing the wrong multiple (8x when it should be 9x). It is also showing the wrong FSB (450 when it is set at 400 in BIOS).
Does anyone with more knowledge know what is actually happening in this scenario? Which of the three (BIOS, cpu-z, coretemp) is wrong here?
I don't use CoreTemp, but I have had the BIOS show a FSB/multiplier setting and then CPU-Z show a differrent set as well. I'm leaning towards CPU-Z giving you the right info. Did you reboot to verify the BIOS again?Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
I'm going to try real hard this weekend to get this PC working how I want it. I've given this setup crazy relaxed times and higher voltage than what I know work on the hardware I got, and still this POS just will not comply. I tell you this though, I'm not going to reward this board with a $400 set of CellShock memory for all the grief it has given me. If anything, I will just RMA it and hold out until the new P45 boards or the Maximus II Formula are released.
Quick question, has BIOS recovery ever worked for any of you? I have never seen it work for me so far. It does change the settings back to default, but it just keeps doing a reboot loop.
BIOS recovery was a huge part of the PROBLEM for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
I could not get the board stable until I completely disabled overclock recovery.
The overclock recovery would constantly screw up the settings and lock up the board so that it would no longer post.
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Originally Posted by Telo
Yes, if that is the case then the BIOS basically doesn't work then.
Heh. Its good to know I am not the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
We need to get the word out about this board. Where are all the people that were hyping this here on XS?
Its like they have all gone into hiding.
If you guys are having issues with the board. I suggest you post on the Quantum Force forums that way they can get the Bios Developer to fix it. I had the same issue with the CPU-Z showing something different. Its a multiplier issue in the bios as far as I know. Try disabling the 1/2 multis and it should go away.
Hi Cpt Planet. Thank you for your response. I have been to the Foxconn forums but saw very little response there to people's problems. 80% of the threads were unanswered by technical support. I will go there and post anyway though. What really makes me sad is that Newegg will not accept a RMA of this board. SO it looks like I am stuck with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.Planet
Anyway back to my ongoing problems. Here is what I set in the BIOS:
http://planetimagehost.com/images/45438_BIOSoc1.jpg
Here is what the Aegis panel, Foxconns own utility says:
http://planetimagehost.com/images/70743_FCAegis.jpg
So what is the problem here? Aegis panel agrees with CPU-Z, which does not agree with the BIOS. Why doesn't the BIOS work?
What happens when you enable the 9.5,10,10.5 multis. I was having a similar issue with my 9650 and a early beta bios.
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Originally Posted by Cpt.Planet
Hi Cpt. Planet. I followed your advice to try the .5x setting. I set it to 8.5x because I am very afraid at this point of anything too high that will make this board crash. When it crashes it doesn't recover and I do not have any cheap RAM here to jumpstart it and do the swap trick that will make it post.
In other words if any setting makes me have to clear the CMOS back to defaults then I will not be able to post again.
Anyway here is the BIOS setting:
http://planetimagehost.com/images/75317_BIOSoc2.jpg
Here is what speedfan says:
http://planetimagehost.com/images/64689_OC4.jpg
Here is what cpu-z, aegis panel, and coretemp say:
http://planetimagehost.com/images/72112_OC2.jpg
Here is what Vista says:
http://planetimagehost.com/images/66181_OC3.jpg
I really belive cpu-z at this point because I have run some benchmarks and there is no performance inprovement between setting the processor at 3.2Ghz in the BIOS and setting it at 3.8Ghz in the BIOS. As far as I can tell the BIOS is completely and utterly broken.
I have put in a special request to Foxconn for techinical support. Also aren't there XS members who have worked on this board and helped create it? Where did they go?
So it's really a command rate issue and not voltage? I've seen a couple other boards do this same thing with certain corsair ddr2 kits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
@CeeVee - I got Newegg to issue me a Full Refund yesterday on my BlackOps. It is on its way back to them and they paid for the shipping back too.
Maybe it's because I buy $5-$7K worth of stuff from them yearly they allowed it. But stick to your guns and demand a Full Refund. I also mentioned I spent some time on the phone with FoxConn's Tech Support and they couldn't help me either. Foxconn even provided me with a new P03 Bios version, but it didn't help any.
The sad thing is, I now have $600 of DDR3 ram, and no great X48 Mobo to put them in.
Thank you for this advice. I have spent $6k in the last two weeks at Newegg so hopefully they will help me out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kensek
I guess I will call back on Monday and ask to talk to a manager.
This is BY FAR the worst motherboard I have ever encountered in about 5 years of building systems, including all the AMD boards I have used too.
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Originally Posted by Cpt.Planet
I posted on the Foxconn forum last week... you want to know what I got from it so far? 50+ views of the thread and no replies whatsoever.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
Yep its like the lights are on but no one is home at Foxconn.
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If anyone in the community here knows people at Foxconn please ask them to come and read this thread.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
Cee, go read what I posted on the retail version thread; you'll get a kick out of it.
Here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=187156
I feel bad for you Cee, you spent $1,500 on a CPU, over $1,000 on RAM and God only knows what kind of GPUs your system is packing and this POS board won't even get off its @$$ and work.
Actually I really wanted a 790i but didn't buy it because of some of the issues that users had experienced. Ironically a 790i would probably have been a walk in the park compared to this Blackops. (at least it would have posted!) Having to swap in 1GB sticks to even get a post is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
Anyway with the recent fix of the corruption issues, I am probably going to switch to 790i.
I'm 90% sure that I will return to my previous board [ASUS P5E3 Premium], worst case scenario, I can OC the PC up to 400FSB and it WILL allow me to run all 4 sticks at 6-6-6-18-2T. Only reason I left that board was actual physical defects [short in a RAM slot, power switch jumper was malfunctioning, Express gate was missing {BTW 3 cases on 3 different boards}], not poor BIOS coding. I'm bound to get a 100% solid board even if I got to return 100 of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
IMO Foxconn BlackOps is over-stabilized to get the best results for OC at sub-zero temps. It is designed for benching, not for normal operations (as we know, air cooling of NB or water cooling with copper-aluminum design is a joke).
I could run qx9650 with 1.392V rock-stable on 780i at 4.2GHz, and for the same stability I have to apply 1.45V WITH Vdroop compensation enabled! on BlackOps for the same CPU and the same 4.2GHz.
I had been able to run 460MHz FSB with the same QX9650 on 790i (unfortunately, te motherboard was not prime-stable), on BlackOps I can run 420 FSB stable with safe voltages, not crazy ones, posted by Cpt. Planet in his overclocking guide.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3156&p=6
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Our recommendation is never to exceed the manufacturer's maximum specified voltage. With that said, values in excess of ~2.2V with DDR3 are a death sentence.
1.81V CPU Vcore (according to a BIOS picture) for 4.278 GHz on CPU 24/7? That is insane!Quote:
The following are the timings I am running on my ram at 1800MHz 2.2v [-as we can see in BIOS picture, it is 2.21V actually] and a few have run up to almost 2000MHz with similar settings.
If you guys want to sell Foxconn products, you need to make your forum active with professional responses and provide some REAL OC guides, not something like this ...
Reread the section there. I said the bios is reporting the wrong voltages for my board because its a ES board running a retail bios. I run under 1.5 daily check out the voltage section.Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
Well, we all bought the board with RETAIL BIOS ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.Planet
There's nothing different just simply the voltage is reported wrong with my board. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
Nobody here works for Foxconn dude!Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
Be happy he bothered helping you out with a guide ?
Give us some REAL comparison here ? So you cant run 460 fsb with a Quard on the Blackops :D
Set your bios better dude ;) It is EASY.
Why is air and water cooling a Joke ? I dont get that ? Ever heard of anti corrosion ?
Why did you buy the board then ?
If that is the biggest problem, Maybe you should by an Asus board ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
ALL new boards have issues in the biginning!
Be happy with your new board, And show us some results ?
If Foxconn really wanted to break into the enthusiast market they sure have done a bad job of it.
If they had a representative who would read and respond either here or on their forums, and let us know how they are fixing the massive massive problems with the Blackops it would go a long way towards creating goodwill.
At this point I would say from reading here and other overclocking forums they are starting to get a pretty bad reputation based on this product. There are a lot of people having fundamental problems with this board even working at all and all we get from Foxconn is silence.
Move your mem to the other slot ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
Give your mem the volt they need and then put nr 2 stick in ?
Did you read this thread? Here are few of the issues:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu
The board will not post on default settings with many 2GB sticks. To get it to post you have to swap in 1Gb sticks.
The board will not overlock a QX9770 no matter what multiplier you set in the BIOS it will always run at 3.2Ghz.
Sleep mode in Vista crashes the motherboard when you try to "wake up"
Overlock recovery must be disabled or it will reset the board to default settings and then it won't post.
The board will not run 2GB sticks anywhere near the rated settings, I am using Intel XMB SPD certified sticks for 1600Mhz 7-7-7-18, they will only run at 1066Mhz to 1200Mhz. I also tried OCZ 1600Mhz sticks and they won't run past 1200Mhz either.
The board takes about 30-45secs after pushing the power button to actually get to a post screen.
I am sure I forgot some things but this is unaceeptable in a retail product.
Please read the whole thread. I have been through every basic troubleshooting option already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu
Before I buy my stuff I will watch other guys buy and try it out before I do for the sake of headaches, but I didn't do that with my Asus S2E board and regretted it. I tried to OC my QX9650 for the life of me on that board all I would get is memory dumps and data corruption every time I tried. So I sent it back to the egg, and got this board and I was able to OC it to 4GHz with no problems. Now I sold my QX9650 and bought a e8400 and still trying to OC it. My point is every part is different when you combine them together. So just because you spend $$$$ does not mean it will be compatible, specially the 8gb thing is just crazy. I see guys having problems with 4gbs. And why do you really need 8GBs of ram are you a photo/video editor or something? Because in gaming it will not help you... maybe it is time for a RMA on the board itself...Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
I have sent of an email to Foxconn, the folks there I have contact with.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
I agree, That is NOT acceptable.
I dont know, But I hope they contact you and ask you for more info.
I know that they give great support, I just dont think they understood the amount of manpower need for a end user board and not big distributers.
Lets hope they give this propper attention!
Sry mate, I read it yesterday. My mistakeQuote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
Well I think I have discovered what some of the RAM problems might be from. Again there is a situation where what you set in the BIOS does not actually happen.
Look here at my BIOS setting for memory timings (you can see CAS9 and 2T):
http://planetimagehost.com/images/61793_BIOSoc3.jpg
Here is what actually happens:
http://planetimagehost.com/images/75823_OC5.jpg
Why won't the BIOS set 2T CR? I think this may be what is holding back my memory. It is supposed to run at 1600Mhz 2T, but I cannot get the motherboard to actually run 2T. Am I missing anything here? (and why is it running CAS8 when I put CAS9??)
What happens when you set them in memset does the board crash or does it not apply?
It does not apply. I select the 2T option then it automatically goes back to 1T.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.Planet
What do you think this means?
Prolly an issue with the bios. As far as the multiplier thing. They said change the EIST to something other than native save and exit. Then go back in and make all your changes and the last thing you should change is the EIST to Native.
Well that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.Planet
But why do I want EIST in native? With EIST in Native mode Vista will underclock the CPU to 2.4Ghz to save power most of the time.
I checked CPU-z and it says 2.4Ghz, but then I ran p95 and it shot up to 3.6Ghz.
http://planetimagehost.com/images/62126_OC6.jpg
Is there no way to overlock with EIST turned OFF? I don't want to see this most of the time:
http://planetimagehost.com/images/13321_OC7.jpg
EIST has to be set to Native if you are running an unlocked multiplier. Thats why its set that way in the guide. You should beable to use CrystalCPUID to change the multiplier in windows and it should stay locked there.
Hi, I had tried it that way before when first setting up, but I did not realize that EIST must be turned on for it to overclock at all. I thought this was merely "recommended" setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.Planet
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Starting to make some progress in spite of the bugs.
Got 8GB DDR3 @ 1345Mhz 8-9-9-24 1T, qx9770 @ 3.785Ghz @ 1.30v
http://planetimagehost.com/images/97412_OC8.jpg
I am feeling confident that if the BIOS will let me go to 2T and CAS9 that I can get all 8GB to 1600Mhz.
Also Cpt. Planet do you know how hot is too hot for the QX9770. At 3.8Ghz I am getting 65C under full Prime95 load in Coretemp. Is 65C too hot for max load (I belive it is the Tjunction reading)? (this is on air atm btw)
EIST must be set to Native if you wish to set your multiplier to over a stock setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.Planet
Ok thanks, I never had to do that on my old ASUS P35 so this is new to me :)
Also if you look at the post above (i edited) what do you think of 65C temp?
65C is starting to get a little hot. I would see about trying to get those down a bit. 55C should be good.
What temps are we talking about here, +15C Aegis panel funny ones or Real Temps? Does anyone believe that with 2.4 CPU my idle temp with watercooling (high flow, D-Tek Fuzion with quad nozzle) can be at 47C while both Real Temp and Everest show 32C, and my water temp is 28.4C? 65C "Aegis" is not "a little hot", it is around 50C Real Temp ...
As you can see, EIST is in native mode ... my Real frequency is 4.2Ghz ...
I did, I am running it at 4.2 GHz pretty stable. It is definitely easy though I have expected lower voltages to reach such results. I know people can run 482MHz FSb on this board, but with what voltages? I used SAFE voltages to run 460 MHz FSB on 790i, here is the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu
I bought it as a replacement for 790i, I never heard that advertised copper cover would be replaced with aluminum one. In this case I wouldn't buy it probably, and I can't return it such as it was sold through newegg only, and newegg has 30 day non-refund policy.Quote:
Why is air and water cooling a Joke ? I dont get that ? Ever heard of anti corrosion ?
Why did you buy the board then ?
It is a joke caz I can't use nor water cooling nor aircooling on it without modification. Air cooling is way ineffective and noisy.
Anticorrosion - why should I use such stuff if on my box it is stated that I've got 4in1 all copper cooler?
I don't buy anything from Asus, period. Actually, there are not so many choices left, you are right. I would love to have a stable 790i but can't spend time on several boards to find a stable one.Quote:
If that is the biggest problem, Maybe you should by an Asus board ;)
Which results? I have a stable running Foxconn BlackOps board now at 4.2 GHz with good safe voltages and mediocre speed results, do you think it makes sense to publish those? I am still working on the board, may be will get something good enough to publish later ...Quote:
ALL new boards have issues in the biginning!
Be happy with your new board, And show us some results ?
I had quite similar results (as todays) with 780i and DDR2 (was happy enough, such as ALL volatages were in the SAFE area) ... nothing to be proud of spending in addition +$1k on memory and board ... those old results can be found here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=129
You can download the reports ... they are attached.
Here is my 4.4GHz result on 780i with 1.456V Vcore on it ONLY http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1207362016 , it is exactly the same CPU and watercooling system, and now I need to use such Vcore for 4.2Ghz on Foxconn BlackOps which supposed to be an UPGRADE? I see people around using the same or higher Vcore for 4.2GHz , therefore it is kinda doubtful that it is only my incompetence to set the BIOS correctly to reach lower voltages ... for example can you show me such results as 4.4GHz with 1.456 Vcore for QX9650 on BlackOps?
You know the story about pessimist and optimist? Is our glass half-full or half-empty? ;)
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Originally Posted by gmcg
Hi I am getting 65C from Coretemp program (I believe that is Tjunction measure?) at 3.8Ghz under full Prime95 load.
I am asking is 65C in Coretemp program too hot for full Prime95 load?
I am not going to put this CPU under water until I finalize the components (blackops or 790i).
Hi, I would recommend to use Real Temp, it's data has been corrected with beam digital termometers. 2.60 version has a convenient temp on-screen data in the top right corner. You will see a HUGE difference comparing with Core Temp. Everquest Beta 1383 is fine as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
I switched to RealTemp and now I am only getting 55C maximum.Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
That should give me room to try for 4Ghz on air. :)
I had been running 4.14 GHz on AC with 790i for a while ...Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
I wanted to publicly thank you for the BO insulation template Cpt.Planet....when I get my replacement board it will be very useful!! I appreciate the assist.
please leave EIST native and c1E disabled and you should have the higher multipliers
What is your VPPL and Vfsb ?Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
These migth be to blame.
ALSO member you cannot trust any volts read in bios, On the blackops the volt is VERY stable. And the CPU power capabilities are truly golden on blackops. Even at 5 Ghz Quardcore it is stable and dosent fluctuate.
AND Im not sure how one can compare I790 to X48 regarding voltages. I really dont know.
Everybody in Denmark ditched the board after problems with past 900 Mhz om mem
Wow i heard back from my special request for support from Foxconn.
EPIC FAIL IMO. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxconn
So they have not even acknolwedged that not being able to set 2T at all is a problem. :down:
Pretty much standard statement for motherboard manufactures. Kind of expected something different from a company advertising the following though.
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Unique accessories for enthusiasts
BLACKOPS includes a range of accessories designed to provide additional convenience and performance enhancements for overclockers. In addition to the 4in1 Quantum Cooler accessories (which include a NB fan,extension tower for LN2 cooling and water cooling block), BLACKOPS owners will also receive variable resistors for volt-modding,
I know I'm getting way ahead of myself, but has anyone tried running this board at 450FSb while using 4 sticks of CellShock 1866 [Blue kit]? I ask because if this RAM actually gets to run at 1800Mhz, I'm sure interested on getting another set. Thanks in advanced.
PS: RAM will be arriving either tomorrow or Wednesday, it's coming straight out of Ireland, bought at Memoryc.com for 254 EUR plus 18 EUR for shipping [roughly $425 for everything]. Tankguys has the 1800Mhz kits for $420, and for what I saw no one sells the blue kits in the USA.
G25 BIOS with Clock Skew (+300 works good for Wolfdale overclocking)
:
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.ph...887A3F1G25.rar
2T works , now fixing multiplier under Vista
Thank you very much. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by LardArse
Downloading now.
is the board defaulted to this or still an option to set it manually?Quote:
Originally Posted by LardArse
If the board still defaults to 1T you have an issue that needs changing ;)
slightly more updated:
http://www.mediafire.com/?zydjtdtd3ze
Hey everybody , I just joined the blackops club :D
i was just looking in the mobo when i found this
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3...16largewn5.jpg
Ready points for vmod?:P
What is the difference about the GXX and P0X bioses? :confused:
Can someone share the P04 ?
The G Bios is BETA and the P is normal online Bios. I will try both of them soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by M3kk
Has anyone tried the CellShock DDR3 15000 (blue sticks) on this board? And are they any deferent then the black ones meaning better OCing?
Can you link me the p04? :)
I cant find that :(
log into http://www.quantum-force.net then go to downloads and public bios , its the first one there ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by M3kk
LOL, i searched it at Beta bios section, thanks :).
in the beta bios are only the G one :)
Ok-ok, i got it.
Lets see if i can boot with 500 fsb and rams at 1000.
Look what i got today with P04 :D.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/ccpuz.ph...3466&nocache=1
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=373466
I had 585, but corrupted :(.
http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.p...1&d=1213100098
Everest at 550 FSB.
http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.p...2&d=1213100140
And some max PI 1M`s at 560 and 566 FSB :).
http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.p...3&d=1213100522
http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.p...4&d=1213100522
With new bioses and with every time, when i use the board i start to love it :D.
The HW is SUPER, just the bioses are wrong, but with time they will come out, i`m sure :).
I cant use 1:4 266 333 or 400 even with 500 FSB :(.
So i cant test 500 FSB with rams at 2000, but i will try more settings.
Congrats Foxconn :).
Hey TeloQuote:
Originally Posted by Telo
i too ordered my cellshocks pc3-15000 blue from memoryc and got them today - at work atm - will try this evening when i get home - i cant wait to see if i can get this board to work at last :D;)
flanr
o thats very ipresive M3kk i wish i could try too but my ram dont work , wrong spd and i have to find a new pare boot change voltages and flash the spd so my cellshock will finaly work :D
Also how many v on the ram?
What this about flashing Cellshock memory. Can anyone elaborate?
the spd is like a memory which says to the mobo what ram are you those which volt to put to bootup etc. because i bought by cellshock once they went out they have old spd and they dont boot properly so i have to "update" it so the mobo will correctly understand the ram :)
Hi all!
I recently exchanged my Asus Striker II Extreme (which you can read all about why on the overclockers forums) but now I'm having issues getting ANY overclocking done with this board! Firstly, the bios seems to be undervolting my memory to 1.6v, when my memory runs at 1.85v. This doesnt cause a problem for boot up and windows loading, but when I try to up the voltage (to the right voltage) and overclock I only get to a windows blue screen, or checksum error, or if I'm REALLY lucky loads of beeping with "checksum error, no keyboard" and then the good ole' reboot or just a blank screen with extreme beeping.
I have tried all the settings I can find with the some help with the really nice folk at overclockers.com, but nothing is working! I have even tried going into the red "danger" settings for voltage of NB, SB, memory (even though the red it actually normal voltage for my RAM) @ 400fsb 1:4 333 divider.
Please look at my sig for the complete spec of my PC. The settings I have tried are as follows: -
*where I say "AND" I mean I have tried both and/or all ways listed and not at the same time, obviously:)
400fsb
1:4 333
CPU voltage @ 1.5 AND 1.6
NB @ 1.5 and stock
SB @ 1.6 and stock
Memory voltage @ 1.84 and 2.0v AND stock (which was way under at around 1.6v)
PL7
I have even tried it at 333 where I get to post, but then I either get a windows corrupt error with "please put windows disc in for repair" or a stall at the first screen. I'm kinda out of idea's atm and I dont know what I can do:( All the usual things are disabled, like speedstep etc!
Any advice would be VERY helpful! I would also be very interested if someone has managed to O/C with this motherboard who has the same memory and/or CPU.
Thanks in advance and sorry if I have stolen the thread!
Spike
after purchasing some cellshock pc3-1866 2 x 1gb blue modules and updating the bios to p04 and setting the settings from anandtechs preview article in the bios and also the clock skew settings to +300, i can now complete post and boot in to windows at 8.5 x 500 but am not stable
i get an intermittent bsod of error stop 0x0000007 and super-pi crashes
i have ran memtest+ 2.01 and it passes all 8 tests once but on the second pass it fails on test 4
also in the bios i have set 8 as the cpu multipler but during the post and in
everest and cpu-z it shows up as 8.5
has anyone any ideas where i go from here
i will post bios settings tomorrow as it is quite late and i have work tomorrow
thanks
flanr
Try loosening the memory timings a bit. The guide when I posted are pretty tight. Also if the memory is being undervolted by what is set in the bios go up to the next option.
will u try this:Quote:
Originally Posted by spikerules
G25 BIOS:
http://www.mediafire.com/?zydjtdtd3ze
and take a look at the settings used here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=190667
The CellShocks arrived, so I proceeded to installing them in place of the OCZ3P18002GK kit that I was using. Just did a quick 400FSB, all auto but the 7-7-7-20-1T timings and 1.8xv [to test the issue where it would lock up if you provided more than the default value], and like a rocket this thing got all the way into Windows. I did a quick 4M SuperPI to test and it did it without a hitch. I'm still trying to find the sweet spot on this thing, but I'm afraid my Q9450 is not welcomed on this board, it used to do 450+FSB on the P5E3 Premium before and now it can't even get to 450FSB. I might do an even trade with a co-worker for his brand new E8500.
PS: Anyone know if this board undervolts regular Quads? Even with the droop compensation enabled, and the vCore set to 1.3625v, CPU-Z shows the current voltage at 0.91xx.
CPU-Z is reporting wrong. Its a known issue. 450FSB takes some time to tweak to get it there.
I wasn't really OC'ing, I was trying to locate the max FSB. With the RAm set to relaxed timings and a 1:2 ratio, it should be able to get passed 450FSB. If I remember correctly I believe I've done it on this board as well before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.Planet
I installed G25 and have managed a 3.6GHz O/C, but was only able to do this by keeping memory at the motherboard "stock" speed. I use "" as the motherboard is still undervolting my memory and wont let me change it:confused:. When I try I get a pre windows cheksum error with a screen telling me I need to repair windows:(Quote:
Originally Posted by LardArse
Anyways, I now have a score of 5.9 for my CPU @ 3.6GHz on Vista... not sure if it had that score before, but I will take it now:) Lets see if its stable! Fingers crossed!
Update: I only had 10 mins to try Prime95 (4.50am here in UK!) but it all looked good... now if only I can get 24/7 results:)
I am also not happy with my 3DMARK score. With my Striker II Extreme at 3.6GHz and 1600MHz RAM (when it ran steady - only one test then wham CRASH) I managed a score of almost 15k, but with this board I am only getting 12k. Maybe I need to defrag my HD and try XP. My 12k score with this board is under Vista, whereas my 15k score was under XP. Would XP make THAT much difference?
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=373850
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/kepaa/
Bravo, Foxconn! With G25 I can run it perfectly stable 24-7 at 430 MHz FSB@4.3GHz QX9650 (WC) and the same Vcore 1.465V as with G22 at 4.2Ghz! CPU temp under full 4 core load is below 61C (spikes), it is fluctuating between 54C and 59C, and all my voltages are in pretty safe area!
It looks that the hardware is definitely perfect (except of those discussed minor issues), we just need some good BIOS, and G25 is definitely a good try ... keep it going! Now I am almost happy ... and no way I would return this board ... 790i " nervously smokes" ... Don't also forget about the HUGE difference in RAID transfer rates ... Thanks guys!
(I took my words about "over-stabilized" back, it was with G22, it is not anymore with G25!)
1-hour 100% 4-core load Everest Lavalys Ultimate stress test is attached (more or less similar to Prime95 though with temps graphs). "Motherboard" is actually a NB temp reading (modified air cooling). My Noctua P12 were in 1200RPM mode during the test, not in normal 900 RPM ULNA mode. Memory temp was below 32C during the test (aircooled, stock Dominator cooler @3000RPM).
Yep, I have noticed a huge difference for 3dmark06 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by spikerules
What do you mean? A huge difference between XP and Vista or 790 board and this board? Is there a setting I may be missing in the bios for my PCIE slot?Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
A huge difference between XP and Vista results, no matter which board do you use. I don't know how to explain it. With SP1 on Vista it looks better though, but still I had like 10% (or more) higher results under XP.Quote:
Originally Posted by spikerules
Isnt 3000 difference a little more that 10% difference! I think on stock settings on the Asus I was getting 13677. I still cant get anywhere with the memory overclocking:( If someone with a little more experience could try 4GB of OCZ ReaperX memory on this board, I would be very grateful!Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
today i tested max boot fsb with my old qx6700
with 1:4 divider and 333strap
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/8155/shot0002hq6.jpg
any commends from the pros?:D
It seems that alot of my problems were BIOS related and not hardware related.
I think I have changed my mind and will keep this MB.
Please keep the updates coming and also I would agree with someone who said before that the board should default to 2T not 1T (but obviously still have the option to select 1T later.)
Thank you :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by yiancar
Nice. Most quads wont do that kinda FSB. I think I saw one of team Japan at 480 on a York. Nuts
I love it, it seems like it jsut keeps gettign better, i hope in 3 weeks when i
start my foxcon build that it will be even better..
:woot:
Kinda following Intel's Memory Sizing codes on this... did you find higher Memory speeds with 2T? I didn't seem to get anymore with 2T.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
Here are my 4.3GHz QX9650 (L739A555) 24-7 rock stable settings, if anyone is interested (BIOS G25):
Memory: 7-6-5-18-1T-L6, everything else is AUTO
Voltages: Vcore (BIOS) 1.4625V (shows 1.4464 current Vcore in BIOS), Vdroop=enable
V PLL 1.546582V
VTT 1.35V
GTL0 +2
GTL1 +2
GTL2 +2
GTL3 +3 (that is my CPU I guess, I added +1 to compensate core 4 failure in Prime95 and it worked)
V NB 1.438V
GTL NB +3
V SB 1.5V
V DRAM 2.099V, DRAM compensations:
+3 step
+3 step
+3 step
FSB 430 MHz
0 ps
800mV
100 MHz PCi
Spread = disable
That's it, may be it is not uber, but it finally beats my old 780i and in two tests beats 8x Xeon E5462, which it not bad I guess for 24-7 operations, good silence / good temps /pretty safe voltages.