NOOOO !!!! I have had almost the exact same idea floating around in my head for a while now , Anyway I doubt it would have turned out that nice :)
Wonderful job man :D
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NOOOO !!!! I have had almost the exact same idea floating around in my head for a while now , Anyway I doubt it would have turned out that nice :)
Wonderful job man :D
Great job so far :) Anymore updates?
I did a few checks on temps the next day, and I may have gained fractions of a degree with curing of the CLP, but nothing significantly different than my posted temps. It's really close to a bowed/nozzled fuzion, next I've been thinking I need to focus on only very small incrimental and tested changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K
For starters I think I'd like to expand the center nozzle length clear across the block. This would force the flow through the pins to be very balanced, but it may also take some emphasis off the core. I'll give it a try, it's easy to do...will post pics when I make that small change.
I've actually been working on a custom block for someone else. It's their own design, and I'm just having fun milling it for them. I also have some other work for someone else also lined out, so I think I'm getting a much appreciated response to the work. I'll never be able to compete with a commercial block manufacturer in terms of fabrication time & costs, but I think I do have something to offer in terms of a custom service. Commercial block can't offer you the option of selecting materials or little tweaks here and there to make it a one of a kind block, but that's something I can easily do.
PM me if anyone is looking for a custom block or part. I don't have alot of capacity, but I'm interested in making different things. And since I don't really know how much time anything will take me, I'm keeping cost down to basically just cover materials and tooling...I'm cheap for now..:ROTF:
On the side I'll continue some of my own projects like this block and some different designs and testing of their performance. I already have a full time regular job, so I really don't need to make any money from this work, and I don't want it to become work. I'm fortunate to have the opportunity to work as much overtime as I could ever want and make really good money, but I like playing too much..:yepp:
Besides...with two young kids... a little milling in the very quiet garage is just soo relaxing right now..:D
Wow... great looking piece of kit you got there! Hopefully you'll considering putting it into production at some point! And props for offering to do custom work as well!
Update on Version 2... 11-2-07, deburred and dished base between pins, removed nozzle holes in favor of a continuous slot.
I decided to try very small changes to my CPU block at a time and test results thoroughly.
For this round I did the following:
Deburred the copper pin base with a 1/32" drill bit. There were some burrs left from the slotting saw that this cleaned up and it also left the base between the pins with a more efficient rounded bottom in between all the pins.
Second, I noticed that the block was fairly restrictive, almost more than my nozzled fuzion, and that the nozzle holes didn't necessarily line up with the pin openings.
The nozzle change:
http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/6...echangesp0.jpg
New results...getting closer one degree at a time...:D Actually it's doing very very well for how unrestrictive of a block as it is. The nozzles on the fuzion add alot of restriction, and this is much less restriciton.
http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/1...resultshe3.jpg
Might try milling the base down thinner for the next round..
Almost there to beating the Bowed + Nozzled Fuzion :)
:mad: Why are you working on someone else's block!? I already ordered 50!! :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
Congratulations on your results. I've been following this thread and it's been great to see your design mature.
PS. I'll take 100 now that it looks so hawt ;)
Can you deliver next week?
Good worklog! And great job!! :shocked:
:D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Linus@ncix
Goinng to have to quit my day job first..:D
I'm not quitting until I'm in the lead...Then I'll start workin on making it look cool. Maybe embed some UV LEDs somewhere. Needs a cooler hold down plate too.
Fantastic job man, pretty sharp looking for a DIY block, and great performance as well.
Can't wait to see what you do to improve this!
Just curious, do you work somewhere that has a cnc machine? do you own one? or what? Just looks shockingly well manufactured compared to a lot of the blocks on here, wondering how you made it... didn't see it in the other posts, sorry if I missed!
I just have a multipurpose mill/lathe combo in my garage, all manual though, no cnc. I used to work in a machine shop growing up and did alot of fabrication type work many years ago. But now I'm just an engineer stuck behind a computer or in meetings most of the time. So I enjoy a little milling in the garage especially if it's for satisfying my own curiosities and need to tinker..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fujimitsu
That's damn good work for being manual, can't imagine that doing the pins was any fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
Excellent work.:up:
Really, really nice work there Martinm210!
Are you planning on mass production? :p: Seriously, I'd be interested in a block like this. It would need to have a Metal Hold down plate since i think that Plastic or Acrylic one looks "fragile" :shrug:
Keep up the nice work!
Thatd be my only change as well, solid metal would be nicer IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patriote
Could always make a copper top and braze them together.. that would be hawt.
Yeah,
I might start making some on the side, but I want to keep up on the development until I just can't get anymore out of it.
I kind of like the idea behind the center pivot mounting plate, but yeah I don't like the 1/4" acrylic either. Acrylic is weak, but lexan is fine.
I'll have to look into some different options.
Maybe a stainless plate, or make the top 1/2" lexan block wide enough to serve as mounting plate too.
:D
:up:
acetal tops version please!!! :)
Black or white? I have both.Quote:
Originally Posted by disruptfam
Actually acetal is much easier to work with than lexan, no cutting fluid needed.
White would be very cool.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
white would be cool! but you can't go wrong with a black version!!! :)
I'll order few block's if you do a black top acetal version of you block thanks...
cheers
White would be a nice change, but either would look sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
Great, I was thinking white would be a nice change too. But I wasn't sure what folks would want. But any of the black/white acetal/delrin or lexan I think make a good strong top.
Can I ask what you guys think would be a reasonable price for one?
Still trying to figure some of that out..thanks!
Amazing! Very nice work
Have you tested it on a quadcore? or will results stay v.similar?
very nice results
No, not yet, but I did design it around both. Both the slot nozzle and raised base are specifically designed to emphasize cooling of a 23mm square section which will cover the die of a quad.Quote:
Originally Posted by ls206
I've had some folks volunteer to do the testing, I just havn't gotten that far yet. I should probably pick up a quad just so I have that ability.
Sounds great Martinm210! Black top? I'll take one :p:
I'd be interested in seeing temps on a Quad core as well.
As for the price, maybe around the FuZion's price?
As far as price goes, the lower the better but people will always pay a premium for the best & for custom work. Really depends a lot on how much the materials cost and how much you charge for your time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patriote
yes please quad core result's if you can...
Thanks guys, not sure the numbers will ever pencil out compared to my regular job, but I'll probably make a few on the side for fun anyhow.
It's my goal to make a block that is on top, even if it does take me 20 hours to make one..:rofl: If I could sell a few that would at least cover some tools and materials. Materials isn't that much, it's mostly time..
With two young kids, materials and time can be written off as "Mental Medicine". :up: :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
have you tried making the pins on the base thinner so you can fit more on? I can imagine that the top is pretty good already, but those are pretty thick pins on the base.
just my thoughts, I am a noob so I don't know much just throwing it out there.
That is just awesome work Martinm210. Keep going! :D
Yep, that's definately coming up in one of my next base revisions. These pins were cut with a 1/32" slotting saw that was a 2" OD. I also tried a 1/64" slotting saw that I could only get in 2 1/2" OD from grizzley.com. It turns out that particular saw was too flimsy and the commercial arbor I had really didn't work for it even on my aluminum test run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Nirvana
But since then I've found a different set of saws and working on making my own arbor to provide support to the saw blade. I also found that master-carr is a good source for many other thicknesses, so other options exist.
I will cut a thinner pin matrix, I'm thinking maybe an ultra thin base, like .040 or .050 base with a .070 tall pin. Diamond and a 30 degree angle vertically.
Just not looking forward to another half a day cutting pins and reducing the pin size doubles the amount of work....:D
Martin, I was wondering if you tried making any GPU blocks (not full cover) to compete against the current offerings?
I have not, I've actually been busy amaking P5kdelux chipset and mosfet blocks:Quote:
Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K
http://www.overclock.net/gallery/dat...eluxFinal1.jpg
but I do plan on giving a GPU block a try.
I really do think there is more room for improvement on the GPU side than the CPU side.
At a minimum I'll make a custom top for my old MCW60 base sitting here on my workbench.
Anyhow, I did try a new update on the CPU block too. Just took the block out and milled the base down thinner. I went from about an .085" base thickness to .045". Unfortunately even though the loop isn't settled out, I'm seeing a substantial icrease in temps:(
On the plus side, even though I've now wasted this block base, I may have room for improvement by using a thicker base. Maybe something in the .100" to .150" base thickness is ideal for that particular pin arrangement.
all those block's are sexy!!!
martin your my hero :)
How about an upgrade to the Fuzion GFX?? :P would love to see the block with less flow restriction :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
The mosfet and chipset blocks look sweet. You do sell them right?
damn, this forum makes me wanna buy stuff with the money I don't have!