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applogies if this will be considered advertising of any kind. First Uk stock of the Maximus Formula Special Edition arrived just now and thought that someone will be interested: http://www.vadim.co.uk/ASUS+Maximus+...s_1333+FSB-bq_
Limited quantity...
Tekheads have had them in since last week,only one left tho:
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=608115
its gone a bit quiet on this thread whats your view on this board pinto i can see you have a few different boards , would you say the ddr3 maximus extreme will give more of a advantage over p35 as the x38 was really designed with ddr3 memory in mindQuote:
Originally Posted by pinto
thanks
Stil struggling :D Got a strange problem and more users seem to have simular results. With me E6600 all the dividers work great. With the exact same settings and me G0 only 1/1 is stable. The system wont even boot with 4/5 or 2/3. I can use 5/6 and 3/4 but not as high as with E6600. I have tried disabling 2 cores but without luck. Have heard same things are happening with E6850 and Maximus Formula. Flashed to bios 0504 but stil the same.
Memset PL works. 9x400 1/1 default is PL10:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s1/1-1PL10.jpg
Memset to PL7 (lowest i could get for now):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/1-1PL7.jpg
The Q66 clocks rather nice, too bad 467FSB seems to be the max on aircooling:
1.55v bios;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...56155vbios.jpg
1.65v bios:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...16525vbios.jpg
Load calibration (vcore damper) stil doesnt work with the latest bios :( Bios set 1.35v and calibration enabled:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...00135vbios.jpg
thanks loco, that board seems to love the quad, and you know how to tweak the last ounce out of it , i am in 2 minds what to do now i don't know whether to plump for this board my current 975x board is stable at 4060mhz with my e6850 (its crap at overclocking a quad though) and it still performs well so to upgrade and warrant dismantling my rig i hoped for a bigger performance leap from the p35, or wait a month and see what the ddr3 one is like i think the maxfsb on this board is effected by temps as i have seen somewhere its like 60 degrees by default on the northbridge , i am not sure if thats right
thanks loco
I think id wait. Its strange not being able to use the ram. This is best i can do G0 & divider 5/6 although mem can do 625mhz cas 4 easy with only ~2.40v and E6600...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...16525vbios.jpg
thanks loco still looks good though but i am taking your advice and sitting on the fence a bit longer and seeing how the ddr3 one fares
Hehe then try learning Hungarian... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BulldogPO
It's either Asus or the UK but it is CRAZY expensive.:shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by grimpy
First US sites just started listing it and haven't seen anything reaching $300, all below that, some of them are even under $270.
Looks like it loves the quad, yes. :cool: DDR3 is prohibitively expensive as of today compared to DDR2 yet offers very little advantage, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by GLENBOY
its always like that in uk we always have to pay more for computer stuff here :(
I´ve a question :p:
At 367Mhz FSB, what DRAM dividers do you have?
Thx :D
PS: Also, how is the vdroop in P5E and Maximus?
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Originally Posted by T2k
can you post a link where to buy maximus formula se in the us?
tnx :D
:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by loc.o
Is there a problem installing a Ultra 120 Extreme cooler on this mobo?..
JH_man
Looking a bit more reasonable price here , the others are sure to follow
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=669218
Do you have a .pl link (or a couple) where the 'regulars' are sold online for a good price? (don't understand much of Polish..)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulusman
Or, I'll trade you my SE for a regular ;)
Anyway, not a lot of testing so far, but FSB is limited by my E6850 at 552.8MHz (approx. same as on P5K & Commando):
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9...xfsbrs4.th.jpg
However I did find 2 oddities:
- From BIOS setting 1.675Vcore (1.6V in hardware monitor, PLL on auto) the BIOS gives CPU overvolt errors...
So max validation only @ 1.65Vcore (Hw monitor 1.584V - PLL auto = 1.712V - NB 1.696V):
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8...alidsr7.th.jpg
(Max validation for this chip on the Commando @ 1.7V was around 4380MHz)
- At 5:6 I can't get the FSB on or past 500, nor the memory on or above 600.. If I put it on or above I get a guaranteed BSOD, & every time a different 1.
So Max 5:6:
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5...op64fh5.th.jpg
Max OC screenable:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9...584vsi1.th.jpg
24/7 - 1.475V (HW Monitor 1.464V - PLL auto = 1.648V - NB 1.47V)
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3...3op4hf8.th.jpg
On a dutch e shop The Maximus Formula SE cost € 248,00.
I am thinking of getting this board but I play the waiting game a bit longer to see other company's (DFI Abit) do there magic on this chipset.
Is DDR3 a real advantage or just keep DDR2. Because DDR3 in a 4GB kit is really really expensive.
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Originally Posted by Disaster_Master
248 Euro = £172 is not a bad price , do they export ? :)
Unfortunately they don't export.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyr(uk)
not sure if it's been posted, but BB is expecting it soon apparently.
http://www.bestbuybusiness.com/bbfb/...c=FRBB10819051
just talked to clubit, they said wed or thurs they should be getting the formula se... also it's going to bt $300.
Called BB Business - they are expecting it next week. Listed for $279 + ~$10 shipping (NYC).
http://www.google.com/products?q=asu...tf-8&scoring=pQuote:
Originally Posted by DJSUB
:welcome:
Looks like this Board has a LOT of issues. I wanted it until now But I'm not so sure after seeing this! Anyone know if the P5e is any better?
Well let the bios mature and let's judge then again
Damn!!! i just ordered this instead of my X38-DQ6.........what is going on with the x38's they are all ending up to be crapQuote:
Originally Posted by Bigchrome
not really better... :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigchrome
no boot with 4:5 divider, dont get my old settings stable... need much nb voltage for high fsb.....
i wait for a new bios.. :mad:
What are you talking about? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigchrome
no i just ordered from motherboardpros any i have a discount with them at 5% over coast but i know they could take forever to come in.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSamurai
what issues ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigchrome
Have you tried booting with low FSB and change performance level before clocking higher in windows? Its set rather tight at auto and 4/5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
Issues? Mem dividers don't work, cpu clocks are bad, vdroop is bad...Quote:
Originally Posted by Creek Tha Gray
Everest can´t show real Vcore with this board.
And Asus Probe II do´nt work at all.
Probe works fine here (XP). Reflashed bios (0504) and dividers are fine again :confused: :D
Send your report to Fiery - he's a nice guy, I'm sure he'll release an update ASAP.Quote:
Originally Posted by BulldogPO
All dividers are working fine? Nice if true :DQuote:
Originally Posted by loc.o
Both Asus and the Gigabyte are up on Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...on=x38&x=0&y=0
They are not cheap here either - looks like Newegg is playing its usual release-time gauging-game again... :(
OTOH Mwave has the Asus P5E for a very nice price of $235: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec....iteria=BA24329
Kudos, it's a very decent price compared to others. :)
$300.00 was a cheep for us...
check this link:
http://en.toppreise.ch/index.php?a=1...c35ed1d6211480
The bottom listing:
Asus 90-MBB7M0-G0EAY00Z MAXIMUS FORMULA SE S775 X38 AT $449.21 $466.21 (Snicker ... snicker)
Newegg's price will probably start to climb as more people view the board.
Did you see where Asus was giving a 3 year warrenty on the Maximus, and we don't even need a recept.
Good deal, and good protection.
Nice pics as always! Happy benching m8 :up:
Locked and loaded ..... Nice rig man!! :shocked:
What is the best memory to order for the Max. I would like 4GB options, but only taking 2 memory slots. Money is not an issue, just OC'ing ability.
I would like to keep 2 slots open in case I decide to take the board to 8GB some day.
We need the 1066 not the 800 correct...
Now that I know what mobo I ended up with, it is the correct time to select my memory. (newbie)
now in stock at newegg, ewiz
does anyone know if you have to use water with the se?? or can you just use it under air? thanx for the help
Water is optional.Quote:
Originally Posted by tylerw13
Just received Etech4sale's notice it's in stock there too: http://www.etech4sale.com/ASUS_MOTHE...d-393472.html#
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigchrome
but afaik iirc the maximus has never had a bios update, whereas X38-dq6 has had had quite a few. it could probably beat the P35-boards with a few updates.
i am almost tempted to purchase this board but after my last experience with an ASUS board the P5N32-E which I have two RMA 3 times and everytime i received a DOA board, btw i gave up on them since the last one did not work either it just laying around after shelling over 300 , i'll wait for the Abit max ver to come out
Maximus has one bios update, shipping bios is 0401 and first update is 0502.
Mine is here Friday.
My experience is not quite so bad , though i don't have fond memories of the ROG Commando.Quote:
i am almost tempted to purchase this board but after my last .... i'll wait for the Abit max ver to come out
What may be ok here though is the board appears to originate from taiwan, not , like the commando & strider, china. The talk of quality issues with boards seems to hang over the china plant which i believe was new at the start of the year.
see pic 3rd from bottom Asus Maximus Formula SE X38 - Living Review
must admit i like the crazy, high & normal voltage indicators:ROTF:
I'm torn :( this or abit IX38 QuadGT supposedly next week ??
Let's make sure we post up links, on any official reviews that we find on the net.
When you run this board on water, I wonder how well the heat pipe disperses the cooling to the other chips it connects to?
I also would like to know if some other water block would fit where the Fusion is, but is looking for a 1/2" hose.
any official reviews, i ordered mine from newegg, it shipped from memphis so i should get it friday.
o hope its better than dq6 lol cause its cheaperQuote:
Originally Posted by GAR
i hope so man, i didnt like the dq6 much.........asus has been good to me in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
From all the reviews I have read, they are both pretty much on par with one another.
Gonna come down to personal preference I guess as both boards have unique features that separate them well from one another, but offering similar performance.
I am confused on the memory for this board: (Newbie)
It has for info:
Dual channel memory architecture
4 X DIMM, supportmax 8GB, DDR2-1200*/1066/800/667 MHz, ECC, non-ECC and unbuffered memory
DDR2 1200 is O.C. speeds.
So if I want to buy Crucial 4GB kit (2GBx2) what memory kit is best?
Here is one that I am looking at:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2KIT25664AA53E
and another:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2KIT25664AA667
Are these the type I need the the Maximus SE, what is the best Crucial 4GB kit (2GBx2) that I can select, that the board could actually make use of on a high memory OC?
Thanks for the help...
I want to get my memory on order for this baby.... ;)
*Update: I noticed the top link is Cas Latency: 4, the second is Cas Latency: 5, but the same price? Isn't that odd?
I guess the top link 'DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) CT2KIT25664AA53E' would be a good choice correct? :)
My issue with the DQ6 wasnt performance, it hated 4x1gb of my micron d9gmh, one pair from crucial ballistix, and another pair from g.skill hz, both pairs do 550mhz easy with 5-5-5-12 timings, but put them together, and they barely will do 450............stock settings i was getting bsod's with 4gbs...............there is no way i am running with 2gb's again, 64 bit vista takes up 800megs on idleQuote:
Originally Posted by JPxM0Dz
mine does 4-4-4-12 @ 1040mhz on my p35 n i cant do 800 on my dq6 lolQuote:
Originally Posted by GAR
does anybody have pics of the motherboard without the heatsinks on it?
Interesting review >>> http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=5306
Yeah man thats what i mean, i am hoping the maximus does good with 4 gigs, im crossing my fingers!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talonman
Your first link would be a TERRIBLE choice for wanting to overclock. Since its speed is DDR2-533, you may get up to 667 speeds, or even close to DDR2-800 speeds, but I'd doubt that....since that stuff you linked to is essentially value memory and not performance memory.
You need some memory rated at DDR2-800 (PC 6400) minimum, DDR2-1066 (PC 8500...?) would be very much preferrable. A good set of Micron-based D9 chips would be nice to find, too.
Link to Some Mushkin 2 x 2GB DDR2-800.
Some other companies make better choices than what you had.....OCZ, Corsair, Crucial even.
Problems with memory now really gone :) Flashed back to bios 0401 and can run all dividers and boot with high FSB again. I think bios 0504 was the actual problem.
I'm thinking of getting this mobo too .. but can't make a decision yet, are the owners of this mobo happy about it?
and do i HAVE(is it a must?) to use watercooling, or can i do without it also ? and i will overclock yes :)
loco did you get to max out fsb yet
how is it doing with 4 sticks?
i maxed out 580fsb on my x38-dq6 the thing even did a pi run of 11.90@4.2
but the thing just dont like 4 sticks
I've been waiting for / watching this mobo for a while now, ok so I was suckered in by the WaterCoolable chipset design.. but I have other reasons for wanting it and I just wanna know whether its worth it for me
- I heard they will phase the Special Edition out so needs to be bought now.
- I received £250 for my bday to buy summit for my computer (either WC or new mobo).
- I have DDR 1066 which only runs at 800Mhz (O/C on 1:1) on my current 975xbx2.
- I'll get my WC parts eventually no matter what.
- I currently have an ageing x1900xt - I might get 2 x ATI HD2600 512MB and put them in true 16x16 crossfire (I game at 1600x1200, 1920x1200 resolution)
OR- When new GPU's come out I can use them in real crossfire
- I can upgrade to the new CPU's with this mobo
- I'll only buy DDR3 when it costs around £200 for DDR3@1600Mhz (so a while yet!)
Is it worth my while upgrading? Considering I have only one main PC so will have to take my current set up apart (not so bad cos then I can do a fresh O/S install)
Any thoughts on my reasons would be greatly appreciated!! I mean is the true 16x16 PCIE any good? Any idea when the Abit x38 comes out? are Abit any good?!? I have mixed feelings on Asus with various hits and misses (but hell, even my INTEL xbx2 isnt perfect; destroying 3 sets of memory in slots 1+3)
With me quad max FSB was 467. This is the only board ive used it on so not sure if its max cpu. Also that was with bios 0504 which doesnt work good for me. I wil test the quad tonight in a Blitz to see if max FSB is higher in that board. After that ill test max FSB again in Maximus but with bios 0401.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Me E6600 does 550mhz on air but havent tried increasing PLL volts. The cpu did 550 air on me P5B, Commando and P35C as wel.
Ran 4 sticks just to see if it would run. No serieus OC. Wil try that later.
the p5e is an amazing board... @3.4 on my quad 1-1.... still testing....
Thats not very much m8 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by purecain
not enough to declare the mobo amazing :D
i have some problems with P5E!
It wont run same settings as P5K-E with my E6750 :(
On my P5K-E was it stable @ 4Ghz (1.40v VCore), P5E reboot after few seconds
Prime! i tried higher VCore, NB, SB, PLL, FSB but nothing help :mad:
noway if you are running with a g0 you shouldn't hit a wall yet, push it further :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu
Then you only have a FSB of something like 380 unless you run lower multi....
Thanks for the help. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by C'DaleRider
That was a push in the right direction for me. I still am looking, and found these: Kingston HyperX 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...erX-_-20104001
With this review I spotted: http://techgage.com/article/mushkin_4gb_xp2-8500/1
If I am set on 4GB taking 2 slots, would this be a good selection, or could someone put my nose on a better one? (I will be running Vista 64bit)
Note: I can't find where it is listed, that this is unbuffered memory.
Thanks again. :clap: (I want my Maximus SE happy with his ram!)
In my one maximus the loadline calibration does not function. :(
More someone with this problem?
sorry i should of given the reason for my impression of the P5E, my last board was a P5W DH Deluxe v1.0 and i was limited with my quad to 3.15 completely stable. i could do 3.6 24/7 on the same board with an e6600.
so when i found i was able to boot up @ 3.25 i was v.happy. i havnt had much time to overclock but in the few hours i spent studying the bios settings i managed to hit 3.4 stable easily. i'm sure this chip will go far higher on this board so imo its brilliant....
Just placed my order for one of these and it should be here tomorrow , :)
nice does this board got vdroop?Quote:
Originally Posted by purecain
And any new bios solved the vdroop for the formula?
Hi.
this board can be used without WC?
yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Marvin54
some difference in temperature with the other? without using wc
What's the EPU feature that the plain maximus formula is missing ???
LOL - it's been a while since I saw somebody declaring a mobo "amazing" 'cause it does 3.4GHz with an Intel CPU... :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by purecain
:D
The boards are identical except for the NB-heatsinks. So both got Asus EPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stelios
ASUS EPU
Enables the Most Energy Efficient Motherboard in the World
The ASUS EPU utilizes innovative technology to digitally monitor and tune the CPU power supply with improved VR responses in heavy or light loadings. It automatically provides power for higher performance or improve efficiency by 7% when the PC is running low intensity applications. Working together with AI Gear 3, this can help you attain the best possible power efficiency and energy savings up to 58.6% to help save the environment.
3.4 is my initial overclock, the same chip wouldnt go above 3.15 stable on my last board. havnt measured the vdroop but its obvious the vcore is much more stable.... i'm having to use my old freezer pro7 as my swiftech kit hasnt arrived yet. considering i'm on air aswell i would consider the x38 chipset and the P5E mb in perticular to be good even amazing lol....Quote:
Originally Posted by T2k
I know this won't apply to many of us, and I don't know if it's already been said, but I I thought it worth mentioning that this board is so extreme it won't even accept the stock Intel HSF.
I got my Maximus Formula SE yesterday, and I don't have a socket 775 cooling solution just yet, I was hoping to use the stock unit I could get one. It doesn't fit!
Welcome into the Maximus SE Club!! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by andyr(uk)
Are you going water or air?
CPU 3600Mhz
DDR2 1200Mhz
1.3840Vcore
http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/306...2032266_th.jpg
what do you mean it doesn't fit??? explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by revlob
I will use water , it is the will be strange not pulling off all the stock cooling for a change, usually thats my first job is to remove all the heatsinksQuote:
Originally Posted by Talonman
I am going water too (First build). I noticed this board has a 4 pin CPU fan headder in the board. I currently only have 3 pin fans. If you are going water, do you need a fan connected there, for the board to boot? I heard some boards actually require a CPU fan to be connected when booting?
If so, what do water guys usually do with that fan, and what type to get?
Do we need to be shopping for a fan that connects to a 4 pin headder, or can we just leave him be? :)
You're right . In asus website both boards are advertised with EPU feature.Quote:
Originally Posted by rabor
I think it will just give fan fail on first boot and then set to ignore in hardware , if its the same as the p5k premium that isQuote:
Originally Posted by Talonman
Sounds like fan fail dosen't stop it from booting up, just gives you an error.
I can live with that. I thought it might have been game over, like as in not booting at all until you plugged one in. ;)
I don't have anny issues with a 12Cm fan with a 3 pin powerconnector connected to the 4 pin CPU header, boots up fin each time, just needs to detect rpm
a friend an i both ordered ours today! also we both ordered q6600 g0's. man, he's always copying me. :p:
well i thought the P5E and the maximus formula looked alike but as it turns out it is the same board. where the motherboard says P5E its a long black sticker. i didnt even notice it at first. someone on XS just pulled it off and maximus formula was underneath.......
now the question is can we use a maximus bios for the extra options.
Got mine today, yet to set up. Hoping my new ram comes as i think my Cellshocks are dead but i will have NB and CPU under bodge water to get some high FSB and max Super PI runs then under SS and cascade
On Commando me Cellshock did 620mhz cas 5 max, on this board a little better:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/676mhz.jpg
A little less vcore needed for 4ghz (according to probe at least)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...1/4ghz150v.jpg
Setfsb works fine. Unfortunately i dont have much time to test stability so 1M for now.
damn, those are damn nice rsults. Should have my board tommorow at the latest monday.
theres nothing wrong with ddr1353 on ddr2 that ddr3 frequencies there, loco well done m8 , are you getting used to the maximus now