Are you running the P30 BIOS?
If that's a B3 stepping, you're probably at the limit of the chip.
You also might need to up your FSB voltage up to 1.4v to get that high.
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Are you running the P30 BIOS?
If that's a B3 stepping, you're probably at the limit of the chip.
You also might need to up your FSB voltage up to 1.4v to get that high.
Sorry Nuzgo, I am talking pencil mods for the GTX. The are really simple pencil mods for Vdimm and Vcore. Highest I had the clocks were 710/1140 and there was room for more voltage. Dont want to smoke the card but I think I can get more from it :p:
Has anyone found a workaround for droop on the 680i or is it a regulation problem?
I'm not doin so bad in the FSB department with my A1 570 MCP
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1857/fsb8xpc5.jpg
sorry no results here. i chucked my 650i board.
i was a long time nvidia supporter on the AMD front, and for the most part didnt have any problems, ever since nforce 2 days. Except the blased a8n32 dlx, which i still have chillin in a closet lol..waste!
i went over to intel 6 months ago, and went through 2 EVGA's..within 2 weeks. Nothing but headaches, and smashing my fist on my desk. i then bought the p5n32plus..worked for 2 months, and then became flakey, the board still runs though..just became a flake.
my advice, i would probably wait it out for x38 if you already have nvidia stuff at this point.
or you could go ip35 pro, or p5k. ALOT less stress in your life.
*knock on wood*
I too have a huge FSB hole between 1500 and 1600. I've got my Q6700 at 3.55GHz, Orthos stable but that's as far as I can go at the moment.
If you have links for the 8800 pencil mod, I am interested. Also, any links for pencil mod of 680i would be helpful as well.
I got mine stable finally ! :yepp:
Have got a go with the extremely good priced LT so i bought the EVGA.
Is selling in germany for only 100 Euro :up:
First impression is the simple bios with a few less options than his big brother.
But as i read on the EVGA forum you can flash the LT with the bios of his big brother as long as you force the flashing through awdflash.
This gives you a few more voltage uptions and also ups the MCP voltage to 1.75 Max (LT default is max 1.4V)
Got up to this now :)
I am realy pleased with the following result :clap:
http://img18.imagevenue.com/loc848/t..._122_848lo.JPG
Don't put the LT in the discount bin just yet ! :cool:
I'm 10+ hours orthos small fft stable @ 3700mhz, 10 loops of 3dmark 06 stable, No general crashes or issues at all untill loading up counter strike source. I had to drop OC to 3300mhz before lock ups stopped. How are you guys with 3600+ doin in games? You'd think if it looped 3dmark and passed orthos like it does, css would be no problem.
^^^ true....
was that the only game that locked up? try a few others and let us know...
I got a X3210 and an EVGA 680i. A1.
1.6 vcore set in BIOS, 1.54 real.
Watercooled and lapped, 3,5GHz stable at nearly 70C load. Coretemp
All other volts at auto.
The board is in for RMA because when I set the RAM volt to the default for my chips the board have loads of errors in memtest.
Phasecooling is heading this way, so when I get my new 680i back I will try higher volts on the X3210.
Hosted a 2 vs 2 vs 2 vs 2 Supreme Commander game (Supreme AI, 1000 unit cap, 60km x 60km map) with a friend a few days ago with zero hiccups at my current settings in my sig :up:
Other news, was able to boot at 450FSB @ 8x multi. Willing be posting results later this weekend.
Hifiking: What RAM are you using? If it's anywhere over DDR2-800, you're probably erroring in MemTest due to lower-than-recommended voltage for your memory (EVGA 680i defaults at 1.85v for RAM if I recall correctly, which in many cases isn't enough for DDR2-1000 if that's what you're running).
l723a. vid= 1.2000v
wont post at 9x400, but ok at 8x450. 1.45v vcore in bios, 1.37v in windows. temperatures absolutely nuts, like 50c idle, 75c load with ultra 120. hs/f making good contact, sometimes is actually hot to the touch!! i can see where this is heading. considering spending around $150 on a p35 board, which is a shame, this board has been flawless since november, and overclocks my g0 stepping 6850 great. any sugggestions on a p35 board around $150 ? no msi plse.
Q6600 B3
Evga 8800 GTS 640 @ 640 x 1000
Ballistix 2GB 1066
Corsair 620HX
Air Cooled with Thermalright Ultra120 Extreme (lapped for 5 hours)
here are the results of my humble B3:
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3503/3712ctk0.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5...123d2k6xv2.jpg
But it seems no matter what I do I cant get this B3 prime95 small fft stable above 3.3ghz, so I dropped the multi down to 8 :(
edit:
these are the bios voltages, except cpu is now at a lower multi so lower vcore too.. it was at 1.6v
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9939/zvoltssf0.jpg
3.7GHz [411 x 9]. Voltages haven't changed since my previous 3.6GHz post.
Some benches (SuperPI, wPrime & 3DMark 2006): http://images1.filecloud.com/554865/evga_680i_3700.png (large image 1920x1080)
What programs should I use to overclock and test stability? I have the A1 revision and a G0 stepping?]\
Btw, I read the stickies but I was wondering what people with the same parts as me were using.
Overclocking:
CPU - BIOS
GPU - SysTool/ATITrayTool/RivaTuner
Stability:
wPrime -32M Test.
Prime95/Orthos - 4 threads, 8 hours minimum.
3DMark - At least 3 cycles or more.
Stanford's Folding@Home SMP Client - 6+ hours w/ "-forceasm" flag
SuperPi - Couple 32M runs, one for each core.
I think this may be a video card issue. Now i cant do 5 loops of 3dmark 06 at cpu default settings. I took my water blocks off a month ago and maybe i didnt get stock hs fan back on correctly. I've reseated 3 times yesterday using various thermal compounds..(including old thermal pads) Better but still locking up. I'll have my RMA'd ultra back monday to verify. Off topic i know but does anybody know where i can get some thick thermal pads for the memory?
Back on topic. I used Turtles voltages( fsb 1.5, spp 1.55, mcp 1.65, ht 1.55) to get 18hours prime stable @ 3700mhz. I am not using water on the chipsets lke he is but i am using after market HS and Fans on the north and south bridge. Swiftech MCX159-CU Copper C110 Fan&Heatsink and Evercool Twinkling VGA Cooler. I do not think the stock Heat pipe solution can handle those voltages.
what are you guys using to monitor Chipset temps? Speedfan shows an impossibly low system temp for me, and I assume Everest "motherboard temp" (the same shown in NVmonitor) is ambient.. because it never seems to rise with load.. the only place I can find this temp sensor is in the bios. :confused:
I used these same exact voltages with my 3.6 OC. I'm stable using Prime95 for nearly 2 hours, but when I enter a game... *crash & reboot*. Lower my OC and the problem is gone :shrug:
I'd post screens but these are the same voltages. I'm at 9x400 and RAM at 2.1v 4-4-4-12 timings.
Any input? My BIOS is at P30. Thanks!:yepp:
Here is my 24-7 crunching overclock, it has been running 100% on all four for about 28 hours now:
no joy...i woke this morning to bsod "machine_check_exception" while running prime for an overnight run at numbers listed in sig.
however, long gaming session last night on bf2 and no issues at all, or in any other ares, just cant orthos, or prime
any ideas....anyone?
This is what i got so far, and seems to be the max......i might be able to hit 3.6 with water......preety good chip for a B3....both cpu and heatsink have been lapped. It is P95 stable....1.47v with vdroop.
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2463/680igc3.jpg
nice work Gar! thats a nice b3 you have there!
Does anybody know Vdroop mod to A1 revision?
Ill take that anyday. and on air? geez, how do you like the 120? got rid of the zalman, hey?
Sorry guys looks like the starter of the thread has to remove himself from the festivities due to Mobo troubles yet again! I am also switching boards due to the frequency of the RMA involvement with this board as this will be number 3 in three months and I cannot be bothered with that
welcome to club, 6 evga board i went through in 6 months, when someone tells me this is a trouble free board i tell them good luck and i hope it stays that way,
That crazy, since I'm still running perfectly stable with my current mobo, and been running it since November when it came out :confused: Seems like a real hit or miss with these, both in overclocking and manufacturing quality...
GAR - Nice overclock :clap: Do you have any CoreTemp screenies? Speedfan reports 15c too low by default (unless you fixed that already)
QX6700 ES @ 3.6ghz 1.53vcore - 12hr p95 stable
Failed prime after 7hrs with 1.45 so upped it to 1.53 to be sure. Passed now so I can lower the vcore back down a little and test again. Not bad vdroop either - 0.032. Vdrop however is worse than the dual cores - 0.075 :eek:
Load
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../q360012hr.jpg
Idle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...o10/q2hr36.jpg
Not a G0 nor a 6600 but hey for the price I paid I can't complain - not bad for a B3 chip (L632A865) :D
One thing I have noticed though is that when I get a failed overclock the board goes into '--' mode and at first I was having to reset the cmos and enter all the settings again. I have since just left the pc unplugged for around 2 mins and I can then get into bios without having to reset cmos to get it to boot.:mad:
I am also having power issues with the Zeus 750w. Whenever I power off and power back on again the motherboard reacts as though there is a short (there is none) and I again have to wait a minute with it unplugged until it will power back up.:confused:
hey man...sorry to hear of your troubles with your mobo, whats going on now?
stiill glad you started this thread, it been helpful to us 680i/quad owners.
after messing with various overclocks, and never being one to have to much patience for waiting :p: i always jump up into higher oc's right away.
my clocks were not stable...so i am now working my way up slowly.
hard to tell if it my cpu, ram or mobo....
i was thinking about the gigabyte dq6...but for now i will stay put with what i have for awhile, and see what Q4 brings us...newer things are right around the corner...
Got my Q6600 G0 to 3.2 prime stable. My board seems to like being at 1600fsb (huge FSB holes below that) ... the chip isn't quite ready for that at 9x though ... boots, and actually works fine, but can't prime past 20 minutes or so ... dropped to an 8x multiplier for 3.2, primed all night without breaking a sweat.
My original goal was 3.2, so I guess I'll stick around here for a while. Wish I could do it at 9x but that puts me in the rather large FSB dead zone. Plus side is my memory benchmarks nicer with the higher FSB.
Current voltages:
CPU - 1.4v (manual)
Memory - 2.1v (manual)
FSB - 1.4v (manual)
HT(SPP-MCP) - 1.2v (auto)
PCI-E - 1.4v (auto)
nForce - 1.5v (auto)
AUX - 1.5v (auto)
OK, little issue im running into here, im using this setup, but sometimes my multiplier reverts back to 6x, here are what my volts are at
cpu = 1.57
vtt = 1.5
spp = 1.45
mcp = 1.6
HT = 1.5
all of the cpu features have been disabled, spread spectrum, speed step, vanderpool and etcc.... eevrything is disabled, i am running this setup here, it is prime stable PC is stable but sometimes when i start up the pc it just reverts to 6x multi instead of the 8 i have choosen in the bios?????
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2463/680igc3.jpg
I've had the 6x issue a few times myself, a reboot has always fixed it (no settings changed).
isnt the pencil mod in the mod section?cant remember.
edit: here it is
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=154897
Do you have your USB headers connected??? Try to remove them and see if your problem persists. I found that was my problem. Odd but true.
Also try lowering your SPP and MCP linkage to 4x. Seems to really help me in my 1600 QDR and up OC's.
I am running 3.6Ghz 1.37Vcore load(DMM) and 4Gb (GMH) @1066 5-5-5-11 and loads of 47-50c. Loving the idle temps of 28-32c.
Cant wait for penryn ;)
vdroop mod it then. ;)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=154897
Tried removing the USB headers but it didn't work for me. I also get the '--' from time to time, if I tap the psu then it kicks it into action so it looks like its a PSU problem :(. Got 4gb stable @3.6ghz though by raising the SPP a couple of notches (1.5) but the ram is only at stock for now.
Anyone tried this? Possible with a pencil? I dont trust my soldering skills.
Ya USB on this board is aweful mine just decided to stop working the other day that is I mean all 4 of them blasted Foxcon with their sub par Sh*t!:down:
That is so weird. I had the exact same problem with the ST75ZF/680i combo, but different causes. Too weird....
And about your ram I would try lowering your chipset links to 4x and run linked 4:3 (I think) and you will get 1066Mhz. I had to run 1.45 MCH and 2.05Vdimm to get stable. It wsa wierd that I actually had to lower my Vdimm and MCH voltages to get them to run stable.
If you need a list of my settings PM me and I will get them for you ;)
Edit: Did the drop mod and works flawlessly. The thing i hated the most about this board is finally gone!!! Yay!!!!
That would be very much appreciated if you don't mind m8.
As for the drop mod - Never done a volt mod so if you could guide me with kid gloves...
Will any pencil do, say a HB? I presume it needs to be a graphite pencil?
How many passes?
Lightly or hard?
Does it need any soldering?
Managed to do a 4gig PI run but its far from being p95 stable :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...0/4gigquad.jpg
Just pencil the 3 places that are shown in the picture, a #2 pencil will do just fine, worked fine for me.
You shouldnt need the Vcore mod unless you are using Phase or L2N/DICE, correct? The board is capable of giving 1.7v+ to the core, so you would need extreme cooling for more.
Sure, but why would you want your cpu to idle at 1.5 volts and give you 1.4 under load, wouldnt you want it to be 1.4 idle, and 1.5 load, lower idle volt results in lower idle temps.....my idle temps went down quiet a bit, because in order for me to get 1.47 under load, i needed 1.53 at idle, that meant a higher idle temp wich sucked......now it sits at 1.46 at idle, and 1.47 under load, its awsome....takes 1 minute to do, and not harmful in any way at all, fully reversable with isopropyl alcohol.
Yes the Vdrop mod does this, but the Vcore mod is for more voltage is it not? I might be misunderstanding what that mod is for. I did shade the resistor pictured by the CPU HS/fan header and accheived the results without having to shade the resistor near the DIMM slots.
I just dont want to advise people to shade a resistor that will give the proc more voltage that they dont know about.
I did mine exactly like you did turtle. You are correct about the vcore being for more voltage. Vdrop/vdroop is all we need with air/water
No soldering needed. #2 HB works fine. Yes Graphite.
I shaded mine hard. about 20 full passes. I don't know if that's correct, but thats what i did and it works great.
( I just read in original vcore post to start with 3 light to medium pressure passes, then check bios vs windows voltage)
maybe you should start with 3 like suggested. You can always go back and add more if it's not right.
I just shaded between the 2 red X's. The blue says alternative.
I did not do the vcore mod, just the vdrop. I don't think you can do the vcore with a pencil.
http://www.abload.de/img/p8100013u64.jpg
Excellent, thx for the advice guys:up:
I'll give it a go when I get a 2B pencil:cool:
Thanks for the clarification on the mod. Will stop by Office Depot today as I know they have the 2B's. Got a EVGA 6801/Q6600 project this weekend for a friend. Wish me luck!
Decided to go the #2 route (HB in UK btw) due to not having a 2b and being eager to get it on.
Worked a charm, no more drop, no more droop :up:
:clap: This was fast, easy and eliminated my vdroop! Thanks!
Meh....my EVGA 680i A1 shows no love for Quad Core overclocking!:down:
Sorry thats already been explored also dropping the HT multi to X4 as well and this board has the exact same cut off point as my B3 & G0
I've also tried 4 different evga a1's in the past 2 weeks. 1 out of 4 gave me 465fsb on quad. the others will get me there but not stable. the other 3 were identical to each other as far as holes and fsb.
Heck I cannot even get decent FSB by dropping the Multi to X8 400 FSB and it starts to choke.
There is some weird stuff going on with this board with the USB ports not working all 4 of them that is then a day later they work plus some other things which is to long winded for me to get into so I am inclined to believe its the board! Besides 2 Q6600 chips one B3 1 G0 and both have the same flake out point at X9 and X8 Multi...I don't think so, its the board
did the vdroop mod with some random hello kitty pencil, worked great. thanks!
Is this how you do it??? do i just shade a line (3 or 4 passes) over that area?
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6...ncilmodas0.jpg
also can someone post a larger pic of the mobo and where it actually is cuz i can't find it
cheers
anyone?
Mod works on T1 board too by the way :)
Anyone got measured resistance before and after the vdroop mod so i know what to aim for?
Thanks
thank youQuote:
Yes you are correct.
has anyone got better oc's by doing the pencil mod?
i am starting to lose faith in my 680i...
all i can get outta this is 400x8, which is barely stable
might have to move on to p35...
No love for you on the 680i either hey icon57? Its too bad because for what is supposed to be the premier Quad Core O.C board I was not impressed with mine!
I am getting my Abit IP35 Pro today I will let you know what I think of it, I mean for under $200.00 its a steal from what I can see and the amount of people that have great results with it in 98% that are happy at least.
D.F.I P35 is the way to go but you really cannot get it right now its in very high demand and no one is selling it ATM:(
i love my 680i, the only issue i have isthe multi reverts to 6x sometimes, but a restart fixes it, its quiet annoying tho.
sweet, im going to try the vdroop mod tonight. i have one of the worst boards for vdroop, bios > -0.05 in windows > -0.05 under load = a whole 0.1 off. I have to run 1.5v in bios to get 1.4v under load. this might give me stability above 3.6 ghz finally!
:woot:
EDIT
has anyone measured their resistance with a multimeter? I see that it should be 100K after the pencil mod. Is the resistance higher or lower before the pencil mod?
yeah, its either my cpu, or the limits of the mobo...at this point, i am willing to bet its the mobo....
i am interested to see what your take is on the abit, i am watching that thread as well. i have not used abit since the max3 days of skt 478 :p:
i have really toyed with the idea of the gigabyte DS3, there is an open box on the egg for 121.00.
i think the p35 will be very short lived as we head into Q4, so i dont want to invest too much in it.
I have tried my Q6600 B3 & G0 on this board and it craps out at exactly the same points @ X9 & X8 Multi on both B3 & G0 chips so no doubt in my mind its the board for sure! Although I must admit its a hell of a great overclocker for Dual Core
I will have the IP35 Pro in a couple of hours and I have never owned a abit before well not a overclocking board at least.:D
About to do this mod, but can someone tell me how I can verify what model I have ? It says I need a 00 revision or whatever, I have the T1/A1 (same board), but I don't know anything about which revision. In CPU-Z, it says my board is A2 revision.
Gar and others, Do you know what causes the board (if it is teh Board) to change the muilti on its own. I have had the same thing happen, it would go from 6x when i checked it in windows, then another time while in bios it was at 8x. it was very confusing since i knwo i did nto change it, is there sum kind of auto multiplier? that maybe changes it depending on heat or how it feels, haha.
intel speed step
The V Mod worked perfectly on EVGA A1 680i. Droop has disappeared, just brushed over the points a few times, powered on, checked droop using speedfan. Brushed across a few more times - hey presto droop gone.
To get 400+ FSB sable I use the following volts
FSB 1.4
SPP 1.55
SPP-MCP 1.55
MCP 1.6
Using these settings I get my G0 Q6600 stable @3.8ghz using only 1.475v :D
Benchmarks here we come.
Ok guys, quick advice, go back to P28 bios......the multi dropping issue is gone.....3d is faster in CSS, and 3dmark......system seems to be smoother, wayyy smoother, man P30 bios stinks....P28 stable at 3.5ghz.
That's odd. I don't have that multi-dropping issue unless I turn on C1E/Speedstep, which I do anyways... if you turn off both C1E/Speedstep, it goes away... at least for me. *shrug*... but I leave my computer on all the time to upload/download crap, so powersavings is a welcome.
and I could get 3.8 on the P30.... though I'm waiting on the vdroop mod clarification than that should be help in achieving 4.0ghz
Ok guys here is a teaser of my CPU - if I just upgraded my CPU block from Storm to a DTek Fusion. Bios setting are as per the screenshot.
G0-Q66000/EVGA A1 - P30/L724A754/Packed 08/09/2007/
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4708/g038ghzoy1.jpg
Shot at 2007-08-21
Ok, i'm about to do the vdroop mod. ANY #2 pencil is cool right? =| I heard it's suppose to be #2 HB, or is it the same thing? And can someone clarify, it looks like i'm drawing OVER the resistor??