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11-04-2006, 09:02 AM
AzraelDarkangel

Quote:

Originally Posted by serious1

Hey i think the perfect addition to this thread would be a guide to heatsink lapping;).

That may be a good Idea. I need to organize the information better too, it's a little messy.
11-04-2006, 10:03 AM
AzraelDarkangel

Ok, cleaned it up a bit and made it more readable. I removed the "A" section and changed it to "Other recommended coolers" and deleted all but a few. I was afraid the shear number of coolers listed would cause confusion for new people. Looks alot better now. Added comments to almost all the coolers listed.
11-04-2006, 02:53 PM
LagunaX

Say AzraelDarkAngel,
what size bga ramsinks do you get and where exactly do you place them for the TTBT mod? Do you place them over the H-retaining bar? On the sides? What performance benefit do you get (degrees)? Thanks.
11-04-2006, 03:05 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzraelDarkangel

Well, they were testing with overclocked dual core preslers which are supposed to be some of the hottest processors around. The hotter the processor the better they seem to do. I suggest someone buy this cooler from this forum and test it out with some serious vcore to see if they can find the thermal limits. It works pretty good for a "p.o.s" I never understood why there is so much hate for T.E.C's around here. Lot's of people keep going on about how badly designed this cooler is or whatever. If it's such a bad cooler why does in work so well? I'm sure it does have a thermal limit somewhere, but it still seems to work very well.

did you actually see what the overclocks were.......mild to no vcore increase....wtf is that....with superior cooling you get the ability to put the vcore higher BUT none of the reviews did that because it was crapping out of course. There is no chance in hell TEC will ever be properly cooled by an air cooler
11-04-2006, 03:10 PM
AzraelDarkangel

Quote:

Originally Posted by LagunaX

Say AzraelDarkAngel,
what size bga ramsinks do you get and where exactly do you place them for the TTBT mod? Do you place them over the H-retaining bar? On the sides? What performance benefit do you get (degrees)? Thanks.

There was a thread not long ago here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=120551
scroll down to see my post about this mod.
11-04-2006, 06:51 PM
LagunaX

Thanks man for the ramsink mod for the TTBT. I'm going on vacation for 2 weeks but will post when I return with the results...:cool:
11-04-2006, 07:03 PM
AzraelDarkangel

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

did you actually see what the overclocks were.......mild to no vcore increase....wtf is that....with superior cooling you get the ability to put the vcore higher BUT none of the reviews did that because it was crapping out of course. There is no chance in hell TEC will ever be properly cooled by an air cooler

I see very few reviews that really push the limits of overclocking with any cooler. Instead of just assuming that it can't take the heat or that it's "crapping out" at a certain limit we need to find someone we trust to really push it's limits. Regardless, at stock or mild-medium overclock it seems superior to any normal air cooler.
11-04-2006, 08:54 PM
eXa

Instead of mc14 ramsinks, what about the mcx159-cu without the fan?

Edit: Oh wait, forgot about mounting the ttbt, well cut the mcx159 in 2 or 4 peaces then...
11-04-2006, 10:36 PM
therat

Anyone know if the Thermalright SI-128 will fit on a Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3? Also how does this HSF compare with the Ultra 120.

cheers
11-05-2006, 12:01 AM
Speederlander

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzraelDarkangel

I see very few reviews that really push the limits of overclocking with any cooler. Instead of just assuming that it can't take the heat or that it's "crapping out" at a certain limit we need to find someone we trust to really push it's limits. Regardless, at stock or mild-medium overclock it seems superior to any normal air cooler.

I really wish someone would post some numbers. I'm curious but not quite curious enough to risk $100 + shipping.

I want to know what this thing would do on my 1.6v 6600 running at 3.7 GHz.
11-06-2006, 12:06 PM
AzraelDarkangel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speederlander

I really wish someone would post some numbers. I'm curious but not quite curious enough to risk $100 + shipping.

I want to know what this thing would do on my 1.6v 6600 running at 3.7 GHz.

I have a ton of reviews up for the Titan Amanda but I'm not sure if anyone here has used it yet.
11-07-2006, 11:12 AM
davyjoneslocker

Quote:

Anyone know if the Thermalright SI-128 will fit on a Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3? Also how does this HSF compare with the Ultra 120.

cheers

Yes, it will. I have one on my DS3 board right now. I did some dry fitting before I put it in.

Make sure you mount it so that the heatpipes are facing down, towards the PCI-xpress slot. You get better clearance all the way around.

HTH
11-08-2006, 10:13 AM
markymoo

I been keen to test out the titan amanda for quite awhile( titan armada :) )

I don't see any results yet on conroe. Why do reviewers test it on a amd????
One answer is conroe is low watts so titan isn't necessary well it is for us overclockers.

I put in an order for it this week should be here soon in uk I be testing it on
6400. I let you know.
11-08-2006, 06:38 PM
therat

Quote:

Originally Posted by davyjoneslocker

Yes, it will. I have one on my DS3 board right now. I did some dry fitting before I put it in.

Make sure you mount it so that the heatpipes are facing down, towards the PCI-xpress slot. You get better clearance all the way around.

HTH

Great thanks. Going to put one on my DS3

cheers
11-10-2006, 08:30 AM
barzi

Which cooler is the best cooler of these(plz make a list, with 1: bla.. 2: bla.. etc.):

Hyper TX
Freezer 7 pro
Blue orb II
Ultra-90

I am going to overclock my e6600.
11-11-2006, 09:43 AM
sup3rfly

after the launch of scythe infinity i wonder if the tuniq tower 120 still beats it.... so far i dont see any review comparing this 2 giant....
11-11-2006, 01:13 PM
AzraelDarkangel

Quote:

Originally Posted by barzi

Which cooler is the best cooler of these(plz make a list, with 1: bla.. 2: bla.. etc.):

Hyper TX
Freezer 7 pro
Blue orb II
Ultra-90

I am going to overclock my e6600.

Well, the Hyper TX is great at stock or mild overclocking but probably can't handle the heatload as well with serious overclocking. However the design is good at cooling surrounding components.

The Freezer 7 Pro is good but not as good at stock cooling as the Hyper TX but might at least match it with heavy overclocking.

The Blue Orb II is about as good as the Freezer 7 Pro but may not be as good at handling really heavy overclocking.

I haven't read enough about the Ultra-90, but it's bigger brother, the Ultra-120 is far superior to any of these coolers if you want to do any serious overclocking.
11-11-2006, 01:15 PM
barzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzraelDarkangel

Well, the Hyper TX is great at stock or mild overclocking but probably can't handle the heatload as well with serious overclocking. However the design is good at cooling surrounding components.

The Freezer 7 Pro is good but not as good at stock cooling as the Hyper TX but might at least match it with heavy overclocking.

The Blue Orb II is about as good as the Freezer 7 Pro but may not be as good at handling really heavy overclocking.

I haven't read enough about the Ultra-90, but it's bigger brother, the Ultra-120 is far superior to any of these coolers if you want to do any serious overclocking.

Thanks so the freezer 7 pro is the best, or the hyper tx?(sorry, not so good in english)
I wanted to buy the ultra-120 but it's very expensive, maybe if someone has it and sell it(has a tuniq tower too, so selling it), but the ultra-90 is cheaper.
11-11-2006, 03:41 PM
Okda

how much r u willing to pay for the h/s

since i think those are nice deals and they are better than the h/s u mentioned above
http://www.petrastechshop.com/scniplhecpuc.html

http://www.petrastechshop.com/scmihecpucos.html
11-12-2006, 01:41 AM
barzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaFrOuT

how much r u willing to pay for the h/s

since i think those are nice deals and they are better than the h/s u mentioned above
http://www.petrastechshop.com/scniplhecpuc.html

http://www.petrastechshop.com/scmihecpucos.html

I was looking for a infinity or ninja too. The infinity is out of stock here :slapass: , but the ninja isn't. Is the infinity (much) better then the ninja?
And what's the difference between the normale ninja en de Rev. B?
11-12-2006, 02:46 AM
Okda

i think the Rev.B only comes with a fan while the normal one doesn't

and honeslty i don't think that there is a diff between the top h/s greater than 1C on hot cpus
11-12-2006, 03:45 AM
barzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaFrOuT

i think the Rev.B only comes with a fan while the normal one doesn't

and honeslty i don't think that there is a diff between the top h/s greater than 1C on hot cpus

Ok i will look for a A+ cooler.
And another question:

1. Which was better, the hyper tx or freezer 7 pro(i want to overclock my e6600 to like 3,6ghz)?

2. Has it much effect to lap a cooler like these(hyper tx/freezer 7pro)?and is it hard to do it?
11-12-2006, 06:35 AM
playah

AC Freezer performs better w/lapping,it's not to do
11-12-2006, 10:37 PM
SMa

Quote:

Originally Posted by barzi

I was looking for a infinity or ninja too. The infinity is out of stock here :slapass: , but the ninja isn't. Is the infinity (much) better then the ninja?
And what's the difference between the normale ninja en de Rev. B?

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=get...00&articID=503
11-14-2006, 01:04 PM
barzi

I'm just going to use a mid-end cooler.
But which is better:

Freezer 7 pro
Hyper TX

I want to overclock my e6600 to 3,6Ghz, and i will just one time hit the max(with air)... so which is better for overclocking?
11-14-2006, 01:37 PM
charlie

ultra 90 is exceptional in the mid range section.
11-15-2006, 06:28 AM
barzi

But in a techpowerup review, the blue orb II beats the ultra 90.
It beats a couple of midend HSF(on 120W as well).

Is the Blue orb II completly from copper? or only the base?
And is the Blue orb II better then the freezer 7 pro(for overclocking, e6600)?

Because the blue orb II isn't expensive here, and it delivers great cooling(if you believe the reviews).
11-15-2006, 10:23 AM
nQuirer

hmm...

First and foremost, :up: :up: :up: on that roundup.
Real nice work there.
I'm sure your efforts are well appreciated.

Anyhow, I have a few suggestions that I think could make it even better than it already is.
Particularly in regards to the SI-120 and it's role in your roundup.
I was recently reading around to see if it was worth upgrading to the Ultra-120 from the SI-128.
And in doing so, naturally, I came across reviews of it and other coolers as well.
Amongst these, were the SI-128, the SI-120, and some even included the XP-120. (All three of which I own.)
Now maybe you and I are reading different reviews,
but putting the SI-120 in the same class as the XP-120 is a bit of a stretch.

I've tested each of these three sinks in four entirely different rigs.
And in each rig, I got the same thing that I got after reading and comparing reviews:
there is a relatively substantial performance difference between the SI-120 and the XP-120.
But more importantly, the difference between the SI-120 and the SI-128, doesn't quite compare.
This is most likely due to the fact that the XP-120 was not only Thermalright's first 120mm fan heat sink,
it was the first 120mm fan CPU heat sink period.
So of course, there was much room for improvement.
Then it's successor was designed, and well... it was the SI-120, not the "XP-128."

Once again, I think your roundup is awesome and very helpful.
However, being that the difference between the SI-120 and the SI-128 is less than that between the XP-120 and the SI-120,
I think your roundup can actually be a bit misleading.
Some may get the impression that the difference between the SI-120 and the XP-120 is negligible, when in fact, it isn't.
More negligible, would be the difference between the SI-120 and the SI-128.

And by the way, why did you change the "A" section?
"Other recommended coolers" makes it sound like a "C."
I mean, I could see how some of those coolers would fit there, but not all of them.
If I was looking to buy a heat sink and didn't know better,
I would stay the hell away from anything in a section called "Other recommended coolers."
And if my cooler ended up in that section, hell, I'd be a little pissed. :hehe:
hehe...
I'm just messing with you.

Anyway thanks again for your hard work.
Definitely a worthy sticky. ;)
11-16-2006, 12:00 AM
Okda

Quote:

Originally Posted by barzi

But in a techpowerup review, the blue orb II beats the ultra 90.
It beats a couple of midend HSF(on 120W as well).

Is the Blue orb II completly from copper? or only the base?
And is the Blue orb II better then the freezer 7 pro(for overclocking, e6600)?

Because the blue orb II isn't expensive here, and it delivers great cooling(if you believe the reviews).

AFAIR they used a single core cpu in their review
11-16-2006, 05:42 AM
barzi

ah i get it ;)..
but i saw a used CNPS9500 led for like 20 euros, that's the same price as the freezer 7 pro(in holland). Which is better of these?
I think the CNPS9500, but i don't want to set it always on full speed
11-16-2006, 05:48 AM
kcdrummer

Here is a request to update sticky with a category or label in each category for hs/f assemblies that do not require mb removal. For instance, for the c2d you don't have to remove your mb with an arctic cooler 7 or a scythe infinity. I'm sure there are others but I'm still looking for them.

Just a thought as I know for many that is a consideration.
11-19-2006, 02:03 PM
barzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by barzi

ah i get it ;)..
but i saw a used CNPS9500 led for like 20 euros, that's the same price as the freezer 7 pro(in holland). Which is better of these?
I think the CNPS9500, but i don't want to set it always on full speed

First of all, ^ is my first question.

2. Which is better, a scythe infinity or a big typhoon(non-vx), for oced conroe?
11-20-2006, 04:49 AM
Okda

both are nearly the same if u properly installed both of them

i prefer typhoon cause it looks much better and the main thing that it also cools the area around the cpu like the pwm
11-20-2006, 07:43 AM
barzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaFrOuT

both are nearly the same if u properly installed both of them

i prefer typhoon cause it looks much better and the main thing that it also cools the area around the cpu like the pwm

Ah ok. I thought scythe infinirty because it has more fins(and bigger), and it has 5 long heatpipes, instead of 6 short heatpipes @ BT.

But i doubt now between a scythe infinirty (37 + 9 euro shipping) or a tuniq tower 120 (45 + 9 euro shipping)?
Is the diffrence well if you see the price change(so 10 euro worth?).

The big typhoon is 34 euro + 8 euro shipping, but i heard it is difficult to install(that's the main reaseon for BT VX), so i don't like that very much.

The scythe infinity is very good at installing, it has those standard intel pins. The tuniq tower needs a backplate.

So which should i take?(e6600)
11-20-2006, 11:24 AM
Okda

BT is not hard at all to install

all huge heatsinks are nearly the same when installing

u have to remove the mobo, install the back plate, install the heatsink till the end on the cpu then install the mobo back

and the VX is just an updated version with variable fan speed controller and a higher rated fan at higher noise levels

for me i will get the Bt for the plus of cooling the pwm around teh cpu sockets and its 733T look

check this thread to see how they perform
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=20
11-20-2006, 01:43 PM
barzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaFrOuT

BT is not hard at all to install

all huge heatsinks are nearly the same when installing

u have to remove the mobo, install the back plate, install the heatsink till the end on the cpu then install the mobo back

and the VX is just an updated version with variable fan speed controller and a higher rated fan at higher noise levels

for me i will get the Bt for the plus of cooling the pwm around teh cpu sockets and its 733T look

check this thread to see how they perform
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=20

I see that the big typhoon preforms equal to the tuniq tower!.
But i heard a lots of things about the BT but everyone says you have to lap it, and THEN it because a very good cooler.
So without lapping a scythe infnity is better?
11-20-2006, 02:48 PM
Okda

this review above was made AFAIK before lapping the Thermaltake

u can look in the first post where the reviews posted a link to another forum with many details

he tested the BT using the foam trick and other things that si known to give better performance
11-20-2006, 10:36 PM
iadstudio

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3w4

The Scythe MINE should be in "A+ (louder fan)" category. It gives the same performance as the Ninja but was built for higher airflow.

I agree with the higher airflow but the fins are specifically designed NOT to be loud. it all depends on what fans you use but stock it's pretty quiet.
11-21-2006, 11:46 AM
barzi

So scythe infinity/tuniq tower/TT BT, are like all the same? just which i prefer?

TT BT = cheapest, then infinity then tuniq tower.

Is it worth the 10 euros for tuniq tower against infinity/BT?
11-21-2006, 11:54 AM
Okda

also the Bt will cool the area around the cpu socket like the pwm which si very helpful
11-21-2006, 11:57 AM
barzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaFrOuT

also the Bt will cool the area around the cpu socket like the pwm which si very helpful

So the BT will be the best, and cheapest solution :D?
11-21-2006, 12:03 PM
Okda

IMHO yes it is, many many members here prefer the Tuniq

so there is not clear best heatsink, it mainly depends on ur own needs
11-21-2006, 12:36 PM
barzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaFrOuT

IMHO yes it is, many many members here prefer the Tuniq

so there is not clear best heatsink, it mainly depends on ur own needs

isn't the best heatsink, just the one that gives the best temps?
11-21-2006, 12:59 PM
acrobuddy

It may just be from person to person, but using my TTBT with a high CFM/pressure 38mm silverstone was 3-5C higher then using the tuniq with basically the same fan but only 25mm so not as high pressure, but it may also be because the tower does crossflow through my case. 120mm blows in from front, blows through tuniq, blows out 120mm on back. I have lapped both TTBT and the tuniq. I also use ceramique, as it seems to work best over other options, no gain with AS5 on my core sans-IHS.

But it may vary from person to person, situation to situation. But for me my tuniq has given me better performance over the TTBT.
11-21-2006, 01:14 PM
barzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by acrobuddy

It may just be from person to person, but using my TTBT with a high CFM/pressure 38mm silverstone was 3-5C higher then using the tuniq with basically the same fan but only 25mm so not as high pressure, but it may also be because the tower does crossflow through my case. 120mm blows in from front, blows through tuniq, blows out 120mm on back. I have lapped both TTBT and the tuniq. I also use ceramique, as it seems to work best over other options, no gain with AS5 on my core sans-IHS.

But it may vary from person to person, situation to situation. But for me my tuniq has given me better performance over the TTBT.

Ok..
I just doubt between the infinity and tuniq, and maybe the ninja, or is the infinity better then ninja?
11-22-2006, 02:56 AM
AzraelDarkangel

Just a note to everyone; I just noticed that a section on my aircooling faq has been cut off and it won't let me add anymore. The equivilant of a page or two with some of my heatsink links and all of my VGA coolers and HDD coolers info is gone. There seems to be aprox. 6 page limit on the length of my faq. There are some watercooling faq's and such with 20+ pages so I don't know what's up at the moment.
11-22-2006, 05:14 AM
AzraelDarkangel

Ok, seems to be letting me add stuff ok. Somehow a huge chunk of my stuff just got deleted...wierd...I'm redoing it over the next few days or so.
11-30-2006, 09:34 PM
Demo

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaFrOuT

this review above was made AFAIK before lapping the Thermaltake

u can look in the first post where the reviews posted a link to another forum with many details

he tested the BT using the foam trick and other things that si known to give better performance

How much difference would lapping make, maybe 2~3c at most ?

whats the foam trick, all i see on that link is a single line post.
12-03-2006, 01:01 PM
Asazman

i like the ultra 90, very effective for me
12-05-2006, 06:14 AM
Stx

do you think the Tuniq Tower 120 will fit in the Antec PlusView II ??? (getting the Tuniq soon)

Check these pics pls:
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...II/antec21.jpg
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...II/antec22.jpg
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...antec19_sm.jpg

Also did you guys use the Tuniq TX1 Thermal Grease? I got some AS5 as well for- e6400, which one would be better?

thanks
12-05-2006, 06:39 AM
Okda

i am sure it will
12-06-2006, 11:11 PM
Stx

^ thanks
Also did you guys use the Tuniq TX1 Thermal Grease? I got some AS5 as well for- e6400, which one would be better?

thanks
12-12-2006, 10:06 PM
Shift

Ultra TEC CPU cooler
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=44
12-12-2006, 10:49 PM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfl

You need to buy a extra fan for it.
Better than Scythe for sure, better than the Tuniq??? At least same performance.

Scythe Ninja is 3-5 degrees hotter than Ultra-120 and Infinity 2 degrees hotter than the Ultra-120.

You can buy both at www.bigfottcomputers.com

Ultra 120 is 745g heatsink only.
Inifity is 960 with the fan.

I tried both and I prefer the Ultra-120 wich is the one I use at the moment.

so shouldnt the scythe be the new king of the hill if it gets 3-6c improvment from this mod?
12-12-2006, 11:00 PM
Shift

But with the mod the temps decrease. Most people don't care for the mods, they just want to see the best performance right out of the box. With the mod I guess it is the new king of the hill, but hey maybe someone get find a mod for the Thermalright Ultra 120:cool: .
12-12-2006, 11:05 PM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shift

But with the mod the temps decrease. Most people don't care for the mods, they just want to see the best performance right out of the box. With the mod I guess it is the new king of the hill, but hey maybe someone get find a mod for the Thermalright Ultra 120:cool: .

well im happy I have made up my mind as to which cooler to buy :) I will post my work later once its all done :)
12-13-2006, 10:05 AM
Sanko

another CPU heatsink roundup, non-profit. check it out.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=381721&st=0
12-13-2006, 10:17 AM
Stx

A question I have is about screwing in the Tuniq Tower 120, do the screws have to go through all the way? or is it ok if all the screws are tight enough already?

thx
12-13-2006, 12:39 PM
Anavel0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanko

another CPU heatsink roundup, non-profit. check it out.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=381721&st=0

Good review but I don't like that the Ultra-120 and SI-128 are discredited because of the lame Intel mounting system. Too bad it wasn't done on AM2.
12-13-2006, 01:06 PM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anavel0

Good review but I don't like that the Ultra-120 and SI-128 are discredited because of the lame Intel mounting system. Too bad it wasn't done on AM2.

this is probably the best review I have EVER seen of heatsinks. they use a ounting system which makes equal pressure all around, one amt of thermal paste, and its small enough to see how well the heatsink spreads it as well. The only thing its missing is the tuniq tower. :( But I guess the lesson of this roundup is to lap your heatsink, reguardless of how shiny it is :) lol.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/DSC08505.jpg

we can clearly see that either the heatsink is concave, or the IHS is. Or maybe both are becuase there are scratches around the edges where the corners of the cpu IHS would be. Good thing my cpu is lapped.
12-13-2006, 02:27 PM
sup3rfly

i really have a thought that the ultra 120 will be the king in the tower heatsinks and the si-128 to be the king of the non tower heatsink but it came out the other way round... i wonder if the mounting mechanism is really having some problem.... does anyone faced that issue before???

ya i was looking for tuniq tower also but too bad no one has it in my country so i will have to carry it out without tuniq... :(
12-13-2006, 04:29 PM
Shift

ANother air cooling round up at madshrimps

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=get...79&articID=519
12-15-2006, 03:04 AM
thorgal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shift

ANother air cooling round up at madshrimps

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=get...79&articID=519

And for those who wonder, Tuniq will be retested soon on S775 as well :)
12-15-2006, 04:47 AM
NightCrawler™

Odd... I always believed the TR 120 Ultra would outperform the BT.. Looking at the results the BT scores worse...
12-19-2006, 10:45 AM
LagunaX

2 Attachment(s)

Scythe Andy Samurai Master

Here's a review in japanese, but I think on page 3 it outperforms the scythe infinity by 5 deg on load on an e6600 clocked at 3.6ghz:

http://www.octech.jp/modules/wordpre...hp?p=65&page=3
12-20-2006, 11:29 PM
ridczak

Quote:

Originally Posted by LagunaX

Here's a review in japanese, but I think on page 3 it outperforms the scythe infinity by 5 deg on load on an e6600 clocked at 3.6ghz:

http://www.octech.jp/modules/wordpre...hp?p=65&page=3

Wrong, these are NB temperatures. Use Google Language Tools to translate jp2en ;)
12-20-2006, 11:40 PM
LagunaX

Yeah, you're right

Quote:

Originally Posted by ridczak

Wrong, these are NB temperatures. Use Google Language Tools to translate jp2en ;)

Yeah, you're right. Performance doesn't seem so hot (but rather is hot) after all in that single review, translated here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...samurai+master
12-21-2006, 12:38 AM
Vapor

Quote:

Originally Posted by enz660

this is probably the best review I have EVER seen of heatsinks. they use a ounting system which makes equal pressure all around, one amt of thermal paste, and its small enough to see how well the heatsink spreads it as well. The only thing its missing is the tuniq tower. :( But I guess the lesson of this roundup is to lap your heatsink, reguardless of how shiny it is :) lol.

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we can clearly see that either the heatsink is concave, or the IHS is. Or maybe both are becuase there are scratches around the edges where the corners of the cpu IHS would be. Good thing my cpu is lapped.

In my experience with the Infinity and the clip-type mounting. It's not that the base isn't flat, it's that at different times in the mounting process, there's a lot more strain on different edges on the IHS, and they imprint the base of the HSF.

May seem like a drawback, but I can switch HSFs (Infinity -> TTBTvx -> Infinity) in less than 2 minutes, so those little indents are really worth it, IMO. Plus the end result is very even pressure :)
12-21-2006, 07:03 PM
enz660

Quote:

Originally Posted by barzi

I'm just going to use a mid-end cooler.
But which is better:

Freezer 7 pro
Hyper TX

I want to overclock my e6600 to 3,6Ghz, and i will just one time hit the max(with air)... so which is better for overclocking?

3.6ghz for a conroe is pretty high, those two coolers won't be enough. I have my ac freezer 7 pro totally decked out (Lapped, Pressure Mounted) and it can only take my cpu to 3.4ghz until I start seeing 60c. I also have my IHS Lapped and I also am using the Zalman STG-1 Thermal Grease which is ever so slightly better than as5. The only time I can clock to 3.5 is when my 90cfm fan which I mounted on it is on full blast ;)
12-27-2006, 11:42 AM
mrt2

What are you guys take on the Ultra ChillTEC vs the Tuniq120?
01-06-2007, 11:32 AM
»X$«êdên

Is the older Zalman USA CNPS 9500 LED worth $40 ? vs the 9700/ $80today is the last day to decide on the cusa sale.
01-06-2007, 04:49 PM
LagunaX

Quote:

Originally Posted by »X$«êdên

Is the older Zalman USA CNPS 9500 LED worth $40 ? vs the 9700/ $80today is the last day to decide on the cusa sale.

The cnps 9500 won't get you past 3.2ghz. :cool:
02-07-2007, 08:17 AM
jmke

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

ultra 90 is exceptional in the mid range section.

I disagree, it needs a Vantec/Delta 92mm fan to perform, and that's just too loud, with lower speed fans other heatsinks like the Scythe Ninja beat it with large enough margin
02-07-2007, 07:29 PM
ineedaname

I didn't really see any reviews of this cooler but you can probably put it in somewhere.

I personally don't like any "Ultra" brand stuff tho.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...3734&CatId=493

Ooops my bad mrt2 already said something about it.
02-07-2007, 08:08 PM
ineedaname

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shift

ANother air cooling round up at madshrimps

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=get...79&articID=519

This review doesn't make the Scythe infinity look very good at all.

But then again the papst they use is a relatively low cfm fan. I wonder how those coolers will all do with fans in the 90CFM range.
02-07-2007, 11:54 PM
jmke

with higher CFM fan the Infinity will come out ahead (not by much though) due to tighter packed fins and thus more contact area with the forced airflow. you can see my more in-detail Infinity test here: http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=503

the UltraChill is same as MACS TEC COoling and Titan Amanda , while their performance is pretty good, I found them to be too noisy to even come close to the noise/performance balance of Scythe Ninja/Infinity and other large tower coolers
02-09-2007, 04:48 PM
[cTx]Philosophy

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickS

I think the XP-90 shld be in A coolers :)

Agree...
03-02-2007, 09:06 PM
ineedaname

Whoa just saw this today. I think it should definatly be added to the collections in this thread.

http://www.coolermaster.com/index.ph...NU2-GP+GeminII

I might actually hold out buying an infinity for this instead. Can't wait to see some reviews.

Oh wait PcCI2iminal already did one:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=132996
03-08-2007, 04:31 AM
Battle_Rattle

Further testing coming... but please keep an eye towards the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme....
03-08-2007, 08:38 AM
AMD_Deluxe

:D sry
03-22-2007, 06:17 PM
zodden

Great guide

except one little thing I would do....Either link a store that actually sells the A++ Amanda or let people know how hard it is to come by since its not being sold here in the US. I some time trying to find out where one could get it and the only distributor for the amanda in the US (inlandproduct.com) has listed the Amanda as "coming soon" or something for 5+ months and it still has not come.

As to people's comments about the unit? For people looking for end users results I would go to Hard OCP as some of them have the unit and have posted about it.

anyway thanks for the nice guide!
03-22-2007, 06:52 PM
Shift

Quote:

Originally Posted by zodden

Great guide

except one little thing I would do....Either link a store that actually sells the A++ Amanda or let people know how hard it is to come by since its not being sold here in the US. I some time trying to find out where one could get it and the only distributor for the amanda in the US (inlandproduct.com) has listed the Amanda as "coming soon" or something for 5+ months and it still has not come.

As to people's comments about the unit? For people looking for end users results I would go to Hard OCP as some of them have the unit and have posted about it.

anyway thanks for the nice guide!

Performance PC has them, says they are in stock
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=20691
03-22-2007, 07:07 PM
zodden

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shift

Performance PC has them, says they are in stock
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=20691

well I'll be damned....I went down the entire list of stores in the liquid cooling section and I missed that one :D

I owe you a drink :toast:

I may just buy one of these to mod one of these days. I built some good good Peltier rigs in the 90s and have loads of stuff laying around. Got this great silicone stuff from New Zealand too which kept everything nice and dry. I wish these new models would have gone to a 70W or 80W though. I can't see the condensation risk being too large unless you were in a very very cold room at that low rating. Having said that even with this small peltier those guys who take their PC's outside in winter to bench couldn't do so with this baby :)
04-30-2007, 02:04 AM
TEDY

gemini 2 or infinity ????
04-30-2007, 05:42 AM
jfl

The Coolermaster is not really interesting with this review:
http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling...oc.aspx?i=2978
04-30-2007, 02:52 PM
mcoleg

they tested it with 2 noctuas... common, those have no pressure. they should have at least tried yates.
04-30-2007, 03:12 PM
jfl

But they tried all the heatsinks with the same fan.

2 fans of 50 cfm at low speed is not really bad, this heatsink is just disapointing.
04-30-2007, 03:31 PM
Kano

Why is there no mention of the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro in here?
It is quite good (Better than Scythe Rev. B with stock fan) and under $30.
04-30-2007, 05:56 PM
mcoleg

Freezer can't handle high loads, not even in the same class. good sink for a med. overclock but not for a high end of the spectrum.

noctua is not exactly a good fan to mount on a sink no matter what the rated cfm are. no pressure whatsoever. check here:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=497854
05-01-2007, 02:44 AM
Kano

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoleg

Freezer can't handle high loads, not even in the same class. good sink for a med. overclock but not for a high end of the spectrum.

noctua is not exactly a good fan to mount on a sink no matter what the rated cfm are. no pressure whatsoever. check here:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=497854

Not that I disagree, but do you know of another sink that performs better for under $30?
05-01-2007, 03:04 AM
AzraelDarkangel

Cooler Master Hyper TX? It's very good for the price but I don't recall seeing a direct comparison at the moment to the Freezer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103011

I only took it off my list because performance tests seemed to vary alot. Better than the Scythe Infinity in one test:
http://www.bigbruin.com/2006/hypertx_1

Also campatible with socket 775 here:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...3118d0e02b0fb6
05-01-2007, 03:07 AM
TEDY

stock 0$ :D
05-01-2007, 04:37 AM
mcoleg

ultra 90 should be almost as good. but yah, hard to find top of the class bellow $30.
05-01-2007, 07:33 AM
Kano

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzraelDarkangel

Cooler Master Hyper TX? It's very good for the price but I don't recall seeing a direct comparison at the moment to the Freezer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103011

I only took it off my list because performance tests seemed to vary alot. Better than the Scythe Infinity in one test:
http://www.bigbruin.com/2006/hypertx_1

Also campatible with socket 775 here:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...3118d0e02b0fb6

I'll have to read up on it.
Oddly the Freezer 7 is $60 on newegg but can be had for $25 at SVC and other websites.

I plan to buy an e4300 within the next few weeks and overclock it.
I want to go as high as possible with a cheap aftermarket cooler (hopefully 3Ghz+).
Noise is not a factor, I've gotten used to the loud hum of my case fans.
05-01-2007, 08:42 AM
barzi

I think this is your best choice:

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thulcpucofor.html
05-01-2007, 09:31 AM
barzi

I'm looking for a good aircoller now.
In the netherlands the prices are:

Tuniq tower 120: 36 euro
Scythe infinity: 36 euro
thermalright 120 extreme: 57 euro
Coolermaster geminii: 30 euro

What is the best choice for me, and looking at the price too, because I know the ultra 120 extreme is the best cooler at this moment, but it's very very expensive compared to the other top coolers? I have a e6600 and i want to overclock it to 3,6/3.7/3.8ghz(higest stable possible, with good temps).
05-01-2007, 11:45 AM
mcoleg

either one will do. i personally like tuniq, it's a monster of a cooler :P but either way, you'll get similar performance from all of them. just keep in mind, even the best sink does not guarantee your overclock - that depends on the cpu.
05-01-2007, 11:45 AM
Kano

Quote:

Originally Posted by barzi

I think this is your best choice:

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thulcpucofor.html

Hmmmm I'll need to buy a fan but should stay under $30. (EDIT: Comes out to around $30 at SVC after shipping with this fan: http://www.svc.com/fba09a12u.html ).
Anyone recommend a good 90mm high CFM fan (again noise doesn't matter).
Can anyone find a review comparing this to the Ultra-120? That would really help me determine the actual performance of the Ultra-90.

Also if a heatsink comes with thermal compound already on it should I still apply arctic silver?
Or in the case of the TR Ultra 90, which comes with an offbrand thermal paste, is it worth using arctic silver instead?
Lastly, as far as lapping is concerned is it worth removing the nickel coat from the copper base on the HSF or IHS?
05-01-2007, 02:35 PM
fr8o

Did I miss it?

Anyone seen this guy before? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...4&Sku=ULT33186 what is the take on it? Other than expensive of course
05-01-2007, 02:45 PM
Kano

Quote:

Originally Posted by fr8o

Anyone seen this guy before? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...4&Sku=ULT33186 what is the take on it? Other than expensive of course

Its a TEC so its gonna be good.

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