Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor_Blade
have you just re-loaded bios "Defaults" to see if it will post to boot into windows?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor_Blade
have you just re-loaded bios "Defaults" to see if it will post to boot into windows?
Stock divider is left on auto. 3.7 is 10:8
That is exactly what I did. I went back into the bios and loaded the optimized defaults. Not that I am sad that I have a great overclock all of the time, but that I am worried about installing any more OS's with it overclocked.
when you load optimized bios settings, are you re-setting Intel controller to raid...it defaults to IDE on optimized or default settings.
It seems that is must be a memory issue. I think the idea of a different divider may help. I had all kinds of trouble with the 4/5 divider. Maybe try some of the others. The 1/1, 3/4, and 5/6 all seemed to work well.
Thanks for the ideas guys. I will try a different divider next.
I have got a really nice CPU overclock happening with my DFI P35 based motherboard. I am at 3825 MHz 12 hr Prime 95 stable on air, but...
I want to go with dual HD3870X2 video cards, and am concerned that having only one PCI-E 16x slot on my P35 based motherboard will limit video performance by quite a bit.
I know the X38 with its dual PCI-E 16x slots and PCI-E 2.0 support will be a better match for the video cards, but I am concerned my CPU performance will diminish if I swap to the X38 series of motherboards. If I won't see an overall performance boost, I won't switch to the X38.
Has anyone noticed any overclocking problems with the X38 based DFI motherboard compared to the DFI P35 based models? Does anyone have direct experience they can relate about these two boards and their relative strengths and weaknesses?
Also, are any of my components going to cause problems if I go with the X38 motherboard?
Quote:
Originally Posted by kberguy1
I have both the p-35 and x-38 right here and I think you would be better off with the x-38 if you want x-fire. with a q6600 you have a 9 multi, and since the x-38 will do 550 fsb and most quads hit their limit at 500 you will not run out of headroom. games that need that extra bandwidth will show nice improvements. and it is a little better with memory in my opinion.
i hope thermalright brings out a pwn cooler for the x38 :(
HR-09 Type 2Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
is that what your using? on the thermalright website it doesnt say its compatableQuote:
Originally Posted by Praz
That info was originally given to me by Chris Lee at Theramalright. For a proper fit I had to trim the length of the short side a touch.
Edit:
Totally forgot about the height issue. There are a double row of caps for the slave chips. The height above board at these caps are a few tenths of a mm higher then the slave chips themselves. Looking at the bottom of the stock heatsink it is easily seen how it has been relief cut to account for the difference in height. Because of this thermal tape/pad has to be used with the HR-09. It needs to be trimmed so that it does not overlap the caps.
oh, i have already those thermalright 2 type s-type and u-type, and my mobo is flying to me.
but do u guys think it will be better than stocks?
or should i order waterblock from mips for pwm also?
thx!
Thanks for the feedback. I will probably go ahead and get an X38 based motherboard, but will test with my DFI LanParty UT P35-T2R first. That way we can see how much of a difference the dual 16x slots make.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmyz
I like DFI and if I go with an X38 based motherboard, I will probably get the DFI LanParty UT X38-T2R, but I know they are hard to get right now. If I cannot find one of these when the time comes (probably a month or so away), is there any OTHER X38 based motherboard with DDR2 support that would be recommended?
kberguy, care to share some bios settings? (Edit: uh..you have a UT P35....NM..maybe still interesting to see your settings). I cant get my g0 beyond 3540 no matter what i try. I am at 1.406 on Air. Batch L741.
You play around with the GTL settings at all? Pretty critical it seems for getting a decent clock out of a 65nm quad.Quote:
Originally Posted by flexy
Really? I left mine on auto with my g6600 when I had it on this board.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by GripS
Mine is on auto too, never figured out what to do with them or how to start setting them up.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyea
If that's the case then you might start playing with em. On auto with CPU voltage @ 1.45v the same overclock i'm running right now failed running OCCT. When i set GTL ref to 115/115 I passed. Each one below 115 failed. After passing OCCT I did a prime95 run for 8 hours no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
I broke down and got me one. Still learning on the bios.
You just started on 100 and went 1 by 1 testing OCCT till you got it? Like 100/100/100 save>boot>test, then again?Quote:
Originally Posted by GripS
And why some GTL settings are like 115/115/117 with 2 more on the last one?
Some good inof based off of DFI p35, can be used here as its the same theory.....
http://edgeofstability.com/articles/Article.html
Looks like some good articles. I read the Anand article about the DFI p35, it had some good stuff, but more info is good. Thanks for posting the link.
You know, I read that article and it did nothing for me. I screwed around with GTL settings until my eyes hurt. I guess this is just my n00bness showing through, but I cant even get stable at 3.6 without 1.46+ volts to the cpu and Vdroop control disabled. What settings are you guys using for voltage on the other chips? VTT? Is having 4 DIMM's really making my overclock that much more unstable?
Can one of you with a 3.8+ Ghz clock post up your bios settings (especially if you have 4 DIMMs)? I am at a loss. Your help is appreciated.
try starting with a 69%gtl for the cpus and 68% for the NB
so for 1.46 start with 101/99
nd lets say do 1.5 for NB with 102
OK, I am taking notes. VTT? I am really happy with my current overclock, but at 1.5 volts, I would expect more speed. (or less volts, either way)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor_Blade
My specs are very similiar to yours.
I am now onto a different cpu, but this is the best I can do from memory.....
A couple you will need to adjust until it looks like the screen shot.
Screen 1 - 3.8ghzCode:CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Disabled
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled
Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................9x
CPU Clock.................................422 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................333/800
PCIE Clock................................100 MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................As per screen in windows
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.05v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................As per screen in windows
CPU VTT Voltage...........................As per screen in windows
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................N/A
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................N/A
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................N/A
DRAM Timing Page - All Auto
I also have a screen with 425x9.....
Screen 2 -3.825ghz
Quote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
How did you arive at 69% is equal to 101/99 for cpu at 1.46 and 102 for 1.5 on NB. After reading the Anand article they seem to base GTL's off of vtt. They have a reference chart, but don't tell how they arived at those numbers. I've been trying to use their charts and going off of vtt.
Ditto. I thought it was based on VTT, hence me asking for VTT values. I have been using the edge of stability charts for mine, but my system got a hell of alot more stable after I disabled manual GTL settings.
Just looked at the edge of stabiltiy charts. The numbers are very similar to Anands, but edge's charts have more voltage settings. Thanks for the heads up, I'll use their charts for now. At some point I'd love to be able to calculate my own chart.
PS. try lowering the suggested value, I've had some minor success doing that.
The charts only shows what values are needed to maintain the Intel specified 67% ratio of VTT to GTL. Most 65nm processorss are happier at a GTL value slightly higher then this. Any chart is going to be dead-on accurate for the board the voltages were taken from only. As a general reference the chart you are referring to may be off +/- 5 from one board to the next for one or more of the following reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor_Blade
Difference between set VTT voltage in the BIOS compared to actual voltage.
The tolerance of the VTT divider circuit from which the GLT Reference voltages are derived.
The tolerance of the GTL Reference voltage divider circuit.
Trace impedance.
Individual Northbridge
Individual CPU.
The charts only shows what values are needed to maintain the Intel specified 67% ratio of VTT to GTL. Most 65nm processors are happier at a GTL value slightly higher then this. The GTL Reference voltages are not only based on VTT but as noted above are directly derived from it. The only thing of comparison that matters when setting the GTL values is the value of VTT.
Here's my bios for 450 FSB with a Q6600 and 4x1 GB OCZ 9200 Flex
CPU temp around -30 degrees, System 40, chipset 48.Code:CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Disabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Disabled
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Disabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled
Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................9x
CPU Clock.................................450 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................266/667
PCIE Clock................................100MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................1.39V
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.35V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.48V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.52V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................N/A
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................N/A
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................N/A
DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................4
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................9
All Precharge to Act......................4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................32
Performance Level.........................8
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................2
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................12
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................10
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............AUTO
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................AUTO
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................5
Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
With air cooling I got it running nicely at 3.8Ghz with my Mach II GT I can't get it much above 460 FSB im pretty sure this CPU is able of doing 4.4-4.5
but the motherboard seems to hold me back. Even with 1.55 Vcore, 1.74 CPU PLL and 1.64 NB and relaxed timings I can't even get it stable at 470 FSB. Same with both 2 or 4 ram modules.
Any suggestions?
Actually started @ 110. Moved up from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Mic, you sure your CPU can handle the high FSB? Might just try playing with GTLs more. I'll soon be able to assist you I hope, I got my Q6600 primestable at 480 FSB with WC on the Abit IX38 but am now changing to the DFI and a SS unit. If I am also stuck at 450 FSB it's the mobo (or me being not able to deal with 100+ bios settings...)
Should be, had it stable enough for a 3d mark test at 485 FSB on an asus maximus with 2 sticks of memory without much tweaking and 1.45 vcore. Dropping the multiplier on the x38 to 6 and i still run into the fsb wall.
Translation of that link is shown below.
The charts (any chart) only show what values are needed to maintain the Intel specified 67% ratio of VTT to GTL. Many 65nm processorss are happier at a GTL value slightly higher then this 67% ratio. Any chart is only going to be accurate for the specific board the voltages were taken on. Generally any reference chart you are referring to may be off +/- 5 from your board to Joe's board for one or more of the following reasons.
1. Difference between VTT voltage set in the BIOS compared to actual voltage.
2. The tolerance of the VTT divider circuit from which the GLT Reference voltages are derived. Where the definition of tolerance is thus: Leeway for variation from a standard or the permissible deviation from a specified value, often expressed as a percentage.
3. The tolerance of the GTL Reverence voltage divider circuit. Where the definition of tolerance is thus: Leeway for variation from a standard or the permissible deviation from a specified value, often expressed as a percentage.
4. Trace impedance variance from your board to Joe's board.
5. Individual Northbridge variance from your board to Joe's board.
6. Individual CPU variance from your board to Joe's board.
The charts only show what values are needed to maintain the Intel specified 67% ratio of VTT to GTL. Most 65nm processors are happier at a GTL value slightly higher then this. The GTL Reference voltages are not only based on VTT but as noted above are directly derived from it. The only thing of comparison that matters when setting the GTL values is the value of VTT.
Ok I started to mess around with it starting with 105 and Enabling Vcore Drop Control, but I noticed I'm getting a lot of BSOD running wPrime with this error message:Quote:
Originally Posted by GripS
"MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION" (Windows XP 64)
Does that indicates something I have to do?
Thanks.
what is a safe max
B Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.48V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.52V
CPU VTT at 1.52 seems awfully high?
you have my head spinning, BOB!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by RGone
Tracer's off :( my system doesn't like them looks like, I just put in my Super Talent and all is good again, the tracer's no matter what setting I made after some time I got BSOD. What could be the cause of it I don't get it :(
I buyed the tracers bc I thought they work very well with this board but they don't as I found out.
any suggestions would be appreciated
Don't know what to say, the Ballisix 8500 I have work great. One thing I did find is they don't like the 4/5 divider otherwise, I've had great luck with them.
I have Tracer 8500's too and they run flawless and max out my Q6600 with 2.1v max.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dede99
I run them at 1202Mhz with 3:4 divider now, for that above 2.4v (451fsb).
They run great at 5-5-5-4-9-30 and don't seam to bother with 7 or 8 performance level.
I tryed alot of things and divider's but nothing helped me, would you share your settings with me please?
It seemed to be that it was not written at the entry level which equates to my level of understanding of tronics. Some of the guys are way smarter than a MS Rednake for shore. So I just read it and read it and decided to add the appropriate words/wording to indicate the charts are absolutely nothing more than a pretty good starting point and not a gawd inspired ruling. Cause iffen you members good, me was allus a little dense in me belfry...hehehehe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Good to see you around man. RGone...
Quick question if i may interupt:
Whats the better board
Asus Maximus Formula or
DFI LANPARTY LT X38-T2R
Cheers
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dede99
You were probably looking for Jor3lBR's settings, but more may be helpful. I see no difference between the 8500s and the tracers. I run the settings the same for all dividers.
I set the Vdimm at 2.2v or higher depending on what I'm trying to do.
I set the divider manually. I usually run the 3/4 or 5/6, but all work for me except the 4/5.
Enhanced Data Transmitting Fast
Enhanced Addressing Fast
T2 Dispatch Disabled
For fine delay
Everything is set to auto except.
Channel 1 CLK Crossing More Agressive
Channel 2 CLK Crossing More Agressive
CH1CH2 common CLK Crossing More Agressive
The rest I have left at stock.
One thing to think about is that there's a new revison of the Ballastixs out. The use a different chip and may not work as well. I don't know if they've made it to retail or not. You can tell by looking at the modules. If they are double layered they're the old revision.
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by RGone
peace to you my friend.
Thank you PhilDoc, I'll try that tomorrow but I don't think I'll get luck since I didn't OC the RAM or any and it wasn't stable. About the layers I just checked them out and there are only chips on one side only.!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dede99
Anytime. It does sound like you got the new revision. Here's the thread about them in the News section. There's a link to a review of them. It may give you some insight on how to OC them.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=176432
I have a question and sorry if this has been mentioned already but i really don't have the time to go through 74 pages right now. :p I want to get the LT and i'm wondering, can a TRUE be mounted so the fan is blowing towards my rear exhaust fans? Also, will i have enough clearance using a Thermalright HR-03 Plus + a 38mm fan on an 8880GTS 640Mb with a soundcard on the bottom pci slot?
Dede99 looks like you have the new Tracer and are settings won't work for you, any chance of swapping them for the old ones?
Code:CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Disabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Disabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enable
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled
Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................9x
CPU Clock.................................451 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................400/1066
PCIE Clock................................110 MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................1.50V
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.430V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.760V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.530V (realvolt=1.48v)
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.448V (realvolt=1.43v)
VCore Droop Control.......................Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................N/A
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................N/A
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................N/A
DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................4 or 5 for Prime95
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................9 or 15 for Prime95
All Precharge to Act......................4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................30 or 35 for Prime95
Performance Level.........................7 or 8 for Prime95
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................10
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................10
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................4
Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
thanks for the reply guy's I'll try it tomorrow, would be happy if they will do @ stock but don't think they can stand it :(
i got a pair of mushkin xp2-8500 and its verry wierd on this boardQuote:
Originally Posted by Dede99
runs cas 4 better than cas 5
i suspect they are d9gkx
anyone runnin d9gkx on this board?
i can do 4-4-4-12 @ 1080mhz but not cas 5 @ 1000mhz lol 2.3v
i'm running 2.22v @ 1000mhz now @ 4-5-4-12 but i cant run 5-5-4-12 @ 1000mhz with 2.26v lol
with my ballistix 8500s i can do 1200+ with only 2.13v
my guess is its a divider issue then....maybe tighter latencies on the NB when running 1000.
sniipe_dogg had some gkx he has to get some balistex with gmh to replace them
this board also hates d9 revE i think that im using NLH and its strange but i got some gmh coming today its a really or gmh or powerchips board
also having 4 slots filled helps oc the memory so it has to be some sub timing or bios error in there that we are missing
i wish i knew what was under my mushkins
i can do 3-3-3-8 @ 800mhz
so u have the ones rated at 2.2 or 2.35
but i would say gkx from the 1080 c4, and at least there is only 2 choices
all the xp2-8500 are rated 2.35vQuote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
but my last 2 kits were d9gmh for sure n they all died @ 2.26v
my old kits couldnt go past 1050 cas 4
funny i always hoped to get d9gkx from rma n now that i think i got em :rofl:
i was savin my ballistix for a rainy day i guess i should put em in lol cause this board just hates my mushkins must be d9gkx
I'm going to send my Tracer's back to the reseller since those are really crap against the original Tracer's, not going to deal for hours just to realize they are totally unstable even @ stock settings.
Thanks for help guy's, and I'm still hoping to get the real Tracer's from another reseller :) since they look very good inside my RIG!
do u have the single sided revE balistex
look at this kit ill have clocks up today or tomorrow hopefully i should get thim in like 6 hours
http://www.tankguys.com/product_info...c5f42bca8d14f7
Quote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
nope mine are ballistix 8500s double sided no clips
mine are single sided yes and don't work stable even @ stock that's why I'm going to send them back to www.komplett.at
did more testing zanzabar i hit 1120 4-4-4-12 with 2.34v so it must be d9gkx
i swapped it out n put the ballistix
first pic 2.13v
second pic 2.27v
i'm sure can do better with some tweeking
zsamz can you get the 120 extreme to work with a side panel fan on your 900 ?
Got both and wanted to ask. NOW all I need is a motherboard LOL
Guys if you had it to do again would you get the DFI or a different brand?
so far I have
antec 900
E8400
corsair 620W ps
2 G crucial balistic
2 WD 500G drives
8800GT
replacing
Antec 180
6600
Asus P5B Deluxe
550 Neo
2 G Gskill BHZ
3 WD 320 drives
8800GT
ok not replacing but it will become my new gaming system old clunker will replace a 2.4G p4 that is getting slow (mainly 4 yrs of junk installed into XP pro)
Quote:
Originally Posted by sparks
yes but i had to cut 1 side of the side fan to fit it
i'd but it again and again
get the ballistix 8500s the board loves em
Whats this about old and new ballistixs? Do the older a newer balistics use different version of the D9 chips? If I go and get a new set from MemoryC.com (for example) will these clock well on this board?
i got newer version with no clips uses way much less voltsQuote:
Originally Posted by Bikerz
i got mine from ncix 65$ after rebate
Ncix has the board in stock.
How long for US shipping ?
The balistics I have are 6400 and the older style.
The ones that require 2.1 - 2.2V to run without erroring out.
I guess I can put them in the 6600 machine and put the Gskill BHZ in this one.
the 8500 memory is on sale at ncix for $109 after $25 rebate.
i ordered my DFI LT from NCIXUS...i ordered it with one day shipping to florida and it came the next day for like $31+
wait for a better sale if you gonna buy the ballistixQuote:
Originally Posted by sparks
as for ncix they are great
dfi, FTW. Ever sicne the nf4 LP and now the X38....nothing to complain, except "too much to tweak" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sparks
i considered getting a different board for a bit but couldnt think of another x38 that i didnt think of as a step down from DFI, seriously its just that proQuote:
Originally Posted by sparks
i was told by someone today that is a reseller for this mobo that it is to be now discontinued?? wow if so that was fast...
Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
Interesting, if true it makes me wonder if there's some issue with the board. Although, its done everything I've needed it to do.
While it may be discontinued soon it isn't as of right now. After someone posted the same thing over @ DFI club RGone responded with this:Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
Quote:
THERE has been NO cancelling of the LP LT-X38 motherboard. I have no clue what motherboardpro was thinking or if they just had a mis-communication of some sort with DFI.
There is a shipment and a rather large one coming to NewEgg on or about or in the neighborhood of Feb 17th to the 20th before they have them in their computer for sale.
This information is from the only reliable source I have and it is from shipping manifest.
You are now being returned to your regularly scheduled programming.
its not surprising the UT is higher up and the DK is lower and since the UT and LT are electrically identical (this a worse HS) they need a reason to make the UT $100 more than the DK and $80 more than LTQuote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
and the DK is $20 less so that makes that product have no purpose at all
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Originally Posted by GripS
Thanks for the info. It did seem a little fishy.
Eva, how on Earth did you get your Mems to read 5-6 Performance Level with the AUTO settings in the BIOS?Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
If I switch mine Ballistix to auto at that speed (above 600Mhz) they will read 8-9.
Ty.
Depends on bios and divider used as well as main memory timings used as to what AUTO will set :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Thats amazing!Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Im still working on mine with the 400/1066 divider.
Another thing that really jumps into the eyes is how low are your fine delay values!
well def great to hopefully know they will not be discontinued.. i know more than a few people who want this mobo.. thanks for the post grips..i figured motherboardpro would be a bit more cautious as to what they say...though newegg dod the same about this mobo when i asked them a few weeks back..
I am still able to find a DFI Lanparty LT X38-T2R motherboard locally, and am basically ready to grab it. My only concern is that the new X48 series motherboards are soon going to arrive. Is there any good reason to wait for an X48 vs buying a DFI X38 motherboard?
Keep in mind that I am running DDR2 memory, and my primary reason for moving from a DFI P35 series motherboard is the availability of dual PCI-E 16x
graphics card slots.
Also, I am currently running my Q6600 G0 processor at 3870 MHz (9 x 430 MHz FSB) with 1.3875 vCore in BIOS. Will I be able to maintain similar overclocks with the X38 series motherboard?
unless you got a cpu that can do 600fsb i doubt if x48 will be that much betterQuote:
Originally Posted by kberguy1
one thing is sure the x48 will cost more lol
from looking at the maximus to rampage i dont think that the dfi board will change at all, teh maxims has a basic enthusiast bios and garbage thermal adhesive, the rampage has the options of the dfi without the 3rd lvl ram options in the bios designed for ocing its just for different people and oc grade stuff is always more in the main stream and slightly better paste so its 5c cooler
I am having a bad day...:shakes:
I decided to run orthos on my rig and it fails miserably. Like within 20 seconds. I think I need some n00b help. All I want is a stable 3.6 ghz out of my q6600. I am pretty damn sure that my cooling system has the capacity to cool it easily. Can someone help me with settings? I really want to run the system with all 8 Gb of ram in it. Does anyone out there have a similar setup? Your help will be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
Also, for water cooling, I think my temps are high. At stock speeds and voltages, my two hottest cores hit 51C running orthos. Should I re-seat? I feel like I can't trust anything I have done thus far.
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Originally Posted by zanzabar
This is too simple. The maximus is a great board. it overclocks well, and has very good performance even without all of the memory options.
I have both, the maximus oc's just as well with less tinkering. The dfi, also a great board, has a lot of options that don't really improve performance that much at all, but rather can cause major instabilities.
I love both boards, but they both oc about the same, perform about the same. I don't see any clear winner. I will however, give the maximus the advantage in that it doesn't boot to a black screen on occasion (warm boot) requiring cold boots like the dfi does.
dfi are discontinuein' this board? or a shop?Quote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
The Maximus is a good board. But to unequivocally say it overclocks as well as the DFI X38 is a bit misleading. For most users this statement is most likely true. But for the minority that understand the settings of the DFI BIOS and are willing to spend the time using them, processor and memory will normally be able to be pushed further then on any other board.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyea
If this ability makes the board a better choice would be dictated by the individual user. And I would agree that for most users the differences between the two boards are most likely not measurable. There are probably few users that truly understand the capabilities of GTL tuning and Clock Crossing settings the DFI BIOS provides.
Any help?
Hey, please tell us more about your settings, start by posting your Bios Template.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor_Blade
Well, I have more or less gone back to standard clocks, but I will post What I had. It would get through wPrime 1024 without a complaint, but fails Orthos in seconds. I will post the template ASAP.
Got this one today out of nowhere:
http://i29.tinypic.com/sqk220.jpg
Anyone here have a clue?
I only had to turn off PC then on again and all seams fine... Wierd...
Haven't gotten one of those messages on this board, but have gotten them before. Usually when I OC'd the system beyond its capability. Turning off the maching for a while usually cured it, but I had to reload cmos, including the dates.
Anyone know when Motherboardpro.com will have the LT back in stock? I tried to contact them 3 days ago but haven't gotten a reply.
Yes I got it after experimenting some other memory ratios. Probably that caused it. But when I turned back on and went to Bios all settings where the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilDoc
That was good. Irrc mine was on one of the first Asus 939 mb and it would totally scramble the bios. I was probably lucky I didn't bork the bios, but I kept pushing it anyway, lol.
after the 20th from what i was toldQuote:
Originally Posted by Smokin_Joe
Man i hope so, i was planning to get my new rig up and running before next weekend. Do you know of any other good online shops that stock it?Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
Jezus man you got money burning a hole in your pocket or something? Looks like you are doing just fine and i wouldn't expect a much better clock with the X38 then what you are running now. Take the money you would use to buy the new motherboard and get yerself a better video card if you are looking for a significant performance boost.Quote:
Originally Posted by kberguy1