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10-14-2008, 03:09 AM
LUCI5R

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Originally Posted by truehighroller

Thank you everyone that helped get the issue, myself and other people were having resolved. :up: :up: :up:

Awesome there lad!! Good to see that chip rolling again ... :clap:

I've had a few quirks with overclocking ... I guess i've been trying to get back to the 3.8Ghz stable with lower volts then I was using before, but it's not working out - which is ok - it's still working out with my previous set of values that I had been using for months.

:up:
10-14-2008, 03:12 AM
truehighroller

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Originally Posted by yaddam205

Just curious to know what advantages 1406 has over previous versions in the 14xx series.
Performance? Ram? Stability?

They have ironed out all :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty CME option bugs with all cores as far as I know. If you have a 9450,, or alike now you can use the newest revision BIOS being the 1406 ofcourse.
10-14-2008, 03:18 AM
truehighroller

@ mac: Set CME to performance, this is supposed to be the best for us then I think if that doesn't work you are having voltage instabilities some where.

@ Luci5r: Woot I'm back.. I got my new Video Card in last night and scored a 10890~ in 3DMark Vantage.. I did not get much sleep last night like 4 and a half hours tops I'm thinking and man is my brain cloudy.. I wll mess with it more tonight. I actually had to bump my vltage up a little as well as a side note adding to what you was saying with trying to get yours lower. You might be able to play with your gtl settings and manage to get it lower if you feel like messing with it for hours on end probably. I had to bump mine up to 1.27xx.
10-14-2008, 03:41 AM
rusty

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Originally Posted by RejZoR

Ok, i think i found the solution. Along with Intel Chipset driver i had to install Intel Matrix Storage Driver/Utility. After that all old IDE Device/IDE ATA/ATA entries in device manager are gone and replaced by Intel ICH10R AHCI Controller.

http://shrani.si/f/16/cS/1JHL008y/ahci.png

So i assume its now actually working in native AHCI mode (with included NCQ support). Because all those IDE and ATA modes seem to be some sort of compatibility emulations of native SATA drives.

Also pay attention to "Disk drives" branch. They don't have "ATA" appended anymore! Wooohoooo! :D

EDIT:
Just tested with HD tach. CPU utilization is 0% :D, sustained speed went up for 20MB/s. ENd drive speed is still pretty much the same.
It seems CPU utilization went down significantly and system itself seems to be much more responsive :)
I like this a lot :D

Thanks for the info mate. I just did the same thing it did the trick :)
10-14-2008, 03:43 AM
CryptiK

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Originally Posted by PiolhoSM

what's the difference between:

CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670

and

CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.670
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670

0/2 = Core number 0 and 2 ?
1/3 = Core number 1 and 3 ?

0.670 on both will put the same amount of voltage on every core?

The core2 from my Q6600 (core0/core1/core2/core3) gets constant error in prime95 and i always need to raise up the vcore to get that core stable, although i think the others core0,1 and 3 they all are pretty stable with lower vcore value.

I have move the GTL VR (0/2) from 0.630 to 0.670, and it seems i can get more overclock with less vcore. Is it ok? changing from 0.630 to 0.670 will not kill my cpu?

0/2 & 1/3 have nothing to do with the individual cores. They denote BCCLK 0/2 & 1/3. Raising it to 0.67x is fine just keep your Vtt under 1.4v. You want to aim for a target Vref of between around 0.8 - 1.0v.

GTL Ref (the multiplier eg 0.67x) x Vtt = Vref
10-14-2008, 03:44 AM
rusty

Is anyone running Q9450 @ 3.x @ 1.37v or higher for 24/7 setup ? I just wanna verify if that's ok to go above for 24/7 official VID voltage range 1.3625V
10-14-2008, 03:49 AM
carepolice

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Originally Posted by rusty

Is anyone running Q9450 @ 3.x @ 1.37v or higher for 24/7 setup ? I just wanna verify if that's ok to go above for 24/7 official VID voltage range 1.3625V

I would run a bit lower than that voltage for 24/7, atleast if you want use your chip until its must to upgrade (2-4y) You should really consider using lower volts!

There is many many views about this this is just my opinion!
10-14-2008, 03:51 AM
truehighroller

I say it depends on your temps mate. How hot is it running under that voltage. I would think it would be hot.. If it is not so bad then go for it. Also have you tried my gtl settings and what not yet? They might let you drop your voltage more like mine.. I think if any one tinkers enough they can get their voltage down a little with the gtl settings at just the right spot.
10-14-2008, 04:09 AM
PiolhoSM

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Originally Posted by carepolice

Depends what VTT your using try VTT x 0.67 And see if it stays in 0.7-1.0
I belive that it still safe for usage

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

0/2 & 1/3 have nothing to do with the individual cores. They denote BCCLK 0/2 & 1/3. Raising it to 0.67x is fine just keep your Vtt under 1.4v. You want to aim for a target Vref of between around 0.8 - 1.0v.

GTL Ref (the multiplier eg 0.67x) x Vtt = Vref

VTT from CPU or Northbridge? if its from ...

northbridge:

Overclocked:
1.26 x 0.63 = 0.7938
1.26 x 0.67 = 0.8442

Default:
1.20 x 0.63 = 0.756
1.20 x 0.67 = 0.804

CPU:

Overclocked:
1.3625 x 0.63 = 0.858375
1.3625 x 0.67 = 0.912875

Default:
1.325 x 0.63 = 0.83475
1.325 x 0.67 = 0.88775

i will search more about this... Thank you ..again! :)
10-14-2008, 04:20 AM
rusty

that's idle though
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/959/q9450ev3.jpg
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/q...jpg/1/w988.png
10-14-2008, 04:32 AM
truehighroller

That seems ok to me.. I would try to mess with your gtls like I said though and try to get lower but, those temps look good IMO. That is about what I get.. hell that is better then what I get. I get like well then again, I bet you have your tref set to 95 and that is why it is lower then mine you are getting about the same as me tempo wis if this holds true. You are fine mate try to get volts down by messing with gtl settings like said and you will be fine with those temps..
10-14-2008, 04:46 AM
rusty

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Originally Posted by truehighroller

That seems ok to me.. I would try to mess with your gtls like I said though and try to get lower but, those temps look good IMO. That is about what I get.. hell that is better then what I get. I get like well then again, I bet you have your tref set to 95 and that is why it is lower then mine you are getting about the same as me tempo wis if this holds true. You are fine mate try to get volts down by messing with gtl settings like said and you will be fine with those temps..

My gtls are set to .63 and for the tref I need to check most of it stays on Auto
10-14-2008, 04:48 AM
carepolice

Yeap 2.7 version of real temp, I bet that highroller meant your tj max on realtemp its 95 on 2.7 Version change it to 100
10-14-2008, 04:55 AM
rusty

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Originally Posted by carepolice

Yeap 2.7 version of real temp

anything wrong with it ?
10-14-2008, 04:56 AM
carepolice

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty

anything wrong with it ?

Ready my above post, edited ! :rolleyes:
10-14-2008, 05:00 AM
rusty

Quote:

Originally Posted by carepolice

Ready my above post, edited ! :rolleyes:

ah I see, just changed so the temps almost like Everest shows
10-14-2008, 05:08 AM
carepolice

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty

ah I see, just changed so the temps almost like Everest shows

By the way, there is a even 2.79.xx (2.79.8 beta) versions avaible of realtemp!
Just take a look on sticky above :)
10-14-2008, 05:13 AM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiolhoSM

VTT from CPU or Northbridge? if its from ...

northbridge:

Overclocked:
1.26 x 0.63 = 0.7938
1.26 x 0.67 = 0.8442

Default:
1.20 x 0.63 = 0.756
1.20 x 0.67 = 0.804

CPU:

Overclocked:
1.3625 x 0.63 = 0.858375
1.3625 x 0.67 = 0.912875

Default:
1.325 x 0.63 = 0.83475
1.325 x 0.67 = 0.88775

i will search more about this... Thank you ..again! :)

Vtt is another name for vFSB, so work it out using what you set for vFSB, and aim for around 0.8v first, then experiment to see what works best for you.
10-14-2008, 05:21 AM
truehighroller

I have mines set to vFSB 1.22 and my GTLs set to .63 which equals .7686 and my shiznit loves this spot. I need to try to tweak the settings more for the fun of it and see if I can get my CPUv down even lower. Also yes that is what I meant was his tj max yes "sorry" :p:. Long night last night, good one though..
10-14-2008, 05:22 AM
rusty

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Originally Posted by carepolice

By the way, there is a even 2.79.xx (2.79.8 beta) versions avaible of realtemp!
Just take a look on sticky above :)

just tried it shows the same results as 2.70 with 100 tjmax
10-14-2008, 05:32 AM
truehighroller

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty

just tried it shows the same results as 2.70 with 100 tjmax

Yeah and it will because if you have them both set to 100 then they are both reading correctly. I think he was just saying that they address this in the newer one by default that's all. You are really fine though with the temps mate. Just tweak her out and get them as low as possible and anything you get lower will be a plus as you are ok already , you know what I mean..:up:
10-14-2008, 05:38 AM
rusty

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehighroller

Yeah and it will because if you have them both set to 100 then they are both reading correctly. I think he was just saying that they address this in the newer one by default that's all. You are really fine though with the temps mate. Just tweak her out and get them as low as possible and anything you get lower will be a plus as you are ok already , you know what I mean..:up:

Thanks alot for your help really appreciate that :) by the way why it was changed to 100 tjmax? Did intel release some info that states that or someone figure out it ?
10-14-2008, 05:44 AM
truehighroller

Yeah Intel released it and you're welcome :up:.
10-14-2008, 07:03 AM
carepolice

Here's my temps at 1.36V

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2...heatng2.th.jpg http://img264.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif

Dont mind Core #2 and #3 Both are stucked at idle wont go lower than 40 :(
10-14-2008, 10:59 AM
Big Lar

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

0/2 & 1/3 have nothing to do with the individual cores. They denote BCCLK 0/2 & 1/3. Raising it to 0.67x is fine just keep your Vtt under 1.4v. You want to aim for a target Vref of between around 0.8 - 1.0v.

GTL Ref (the multiplier eg 0.67x) x Vtt = Vref

I do not doubt your knowledge and appreciate all the help you have been, However, as quoted above you state that 0/2 and 1/3 have nothing to do with individual cores... Much as I hate to, I disagree. :(

If I run Prime95 blend, and change 0/2 GTL's on purpose to be out of spec, Workers 1 and 2, 1 or the other will fail. So, if what you say is in fact true, how can this be? Perhaps it is my ignorance to the matter, but I adjusted my GTL's by using the assumption that 0/2 related to Workers 1 and 2 and 1/3 related to Worker 3 and 4.

Please explain if you would.

Larry

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