that and more:
http://www.evga.com/articles/00447/
http://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboar...sli_classified
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hahah yeah I know, we are just out in the middle of no-where on a big sandy rock, we call it Australia tax here. I could probably get you to buy me one and ship it here cheaper than buying it locally, thats why we shop overseas so much.
I have a cousin over there too, small world.
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I picked one of these boards up to replace my BloodRage and noticed that C1E stops pulling voltage once the VCore is increased. Is there a workaround for this? EVGA's support wouldn't help me because I'm OC'd...which is so very helpful when I bought the grand daddy of x58 OCing boards. Unfortunately, it works fine as long as the VCore isn't increased so there's not really any way to convince them that this is an issue.
--Matt
I wonder if there is a way to SLI 4 295's on the 4-way board?
They don't have two SLI connectors, so, gonna say no (for now).
:up:hai guy, help me please
My system :
Windows 7 64 bit
Mobo : Evga 760 3 SLI full waterblock from bitspower
VGA : GTX 295 watercooling
Proccessor : intel xeon 3580 watercooling using heatkiller
memory ddr3 triple channel 3 X 2 GB = corsair dominator GT 8-8-8-24
Asus xonar HDAV 1.3
PSU ; corsair 1000w
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSCF0561-1.jpg
I did update the newest bios E76044, and I have a problem with the RAM setting which is 1867 / 2:14 in bios, but the result in cpuz is 1496 / 2:10. The timing is consistent in 8-8-8-24-74-1T, which is the correct one, actually ??? Or is there any possiblity that I have the problem with the bios ?
Pls also help me with the result of my overclocking, which is unstable with the system of my overclocking after I tried to add the bus speed to become 155 Pls find the below picture of setting bios :
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thankkkks:up::up:
There were dram multiplier issues with the beta 43 and there are still not fully resolved in the final 44, it seems. You can leave a comment on evga x58 forums in the appropriate bios thread.
I would disable "turbo performance" (does not really make sense, it's just the more frequent usage of the 2nd turbo multi).
Try to decrease CPU and IOH PLL to 1.5V. Play with various PWM frequency combinations as there's no receipe. CPU Impedance set to low and QPI signal compensation try mid or low - each cpu likes it different. QPI Frequency should be dropped by one multi at least when upping bclk speeds seriously.
I never use XMP. I recommend you writing down set timings (visible in grey) and set them manually. You may be able to omptimize them a bit to get to higher clocks. Maybe try to change trfc to 88 and see if it helps.
Now you should have enough to try for one day. :D
Wow, for the past 2 days I've been trying to break the 4.2x GHz on my 950 CPU, now I reached the 4.4x GHz and I am currently testing this!
I think I'll need another day or 2 to hopefully reach the 4.5 Ghz!
I'll post pics of the BIOS settings as soon as I complete and reach as much as possible......cross your fingers!
10.015 is my current low with the Classified at 4GHz. I am pleasantly surprised with the efficiency of approximately 39978. XP 32 Bit with heavily trimmed services was used.
Where did you end up with the MSI Eclipse?
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So guys i killed my 295 and im looking to get a 5870 now and another one later (month or two) and crossfire them. Now if i cross fire those cards, i have a 8600gt laying around I could use for phyrics, if i do this will the board go into 8x/8x/8x mode? Or because its crossfire would it be 16x/16x and physix?
It will be 16x/8x/8x
You only get 32 lanes with an e760, first slot gets priority, then the 3rd, the 2nd and 4th are default 8 (This is what I got from EVGA when I was contemplating this board, which i did end up buying, and confirmed with my 3 gtx275s (not very extreme :/))
Has anyone color matched the red on the boards for paint?
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10.000 appears to be the the best I can do at 4GHz with the 760 Classified & XP. I suspect that I have hit the efficiency wall.
If other Classified users can get better efficiency out of their board at 4GHz, please post.
Good run there Larry, I am at 10.15 with the MSI (can't tweak anything via eg CPU Tweaker which is a big letdown and very important to nibble off the last precious milliseconds...) Any tighter timings in the bios is a no go for the OS. MSI's Uncore was 4200 max otherwise no post... with the classie like you 4400Mhz uncore was no biggie...
Is yours the regular classified and not the 4Way SLI ? I wished my REX II was out of RMA so I could cross check, maybe Massmans Giga UD7 could show me light :) The MSI is pretty maxed out lol
A few questions for EVGA-owners.
What's the major difference between EVGA 3xSLI CLASSIFIED (141-BL-E760-A1) and the X58 Classified 4-Way SLI (170-BL-E762-A1)? (Besides the number of PCIe).
Is there any major difference on Vreg, cooling, etc. that would affect the OCing abilities, and does both have the same max-BCLK?
Is there any announced plans (or rumour) for a new MB replacing any of these?
this XPsp2 set up for 32M .. tested 1M with/without copy waza
for each clock/timings:
1st run = no copywaza
2nd run = copywaza (SPiTweaker :))
200x20 / 16x uncore / 2:8 / 10-10-10-30 / 2T / B2B 32
no waza
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with waza
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200x20 / 22x uncore / 2:10 / 7-7-5-20 / 1T
no waza
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with waza
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211x19 / 20x uncore / 2:10 / 7-7-5-20 / 1T
no waza
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with waza
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236x17 / 18x uncore / 2:8 / 6-7-5-18 / 1T
no waza
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with waza
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@Cheapseats:
THANK YOU! It looks like I need to add the copywaza step to my process. I will give it a shot this weekend. What initial settings do you reccomend?
Regards,
Raptor-X
you can use this and maxmem :)
http://i4memory.com/spitweaker/SpiTweaker_v1.06.zip
I run different sizes, but 700mb work pretty well for 1m.
Thanks.
I have been using Maxmem = 680 for the above runs. I will try 700.
I downloaded SPTweaker this morning after Cheapseats pointed out the copywaza benefits. Currently, I am working through the thread at OCX of how to best use it. I will check out i4memory as well.
best thing to do is just experiment, one setting might work great for one person, and suck balls for the next :)
New to i7 plaform, what settings do i use when running Corsair Dominators 1866 XMP profile, i set everything to auto and change from standard to XMP but when testing with OCCT in Windows it crashes in 9 sec.
Thanks.
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Specs:
Evga Classified X58 E760 Bios 44
Core i7 920 D0
6GB Crosair Dominators 1866 1.65v
Set the timings per the specs (I believe it is 7-8-7-20) and make sure you raise the vDIMM voltage to 1.65 (be careful, the Classifieds like to overvolt the vDIMM. I set mine to 1.61 in the BIOS, and it reads 1.65 in ELEET).
Ok, thanks.
Sorry for posting to late the results.
920 DO + Noctua U12P Powered by www.hardmodding.net and Noctua.
Classified X58 3way
OCZ Platinum 3x2GB
Pcpower&cooling 750w silencer
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Ok before i read this monster tread i just want to ask if there is enybody that has a crosfire setup problem like i have ?
Ik have the 4-waySLI mobo and if i put my Ati 5750 + Ati 5770 in a crosfire setup my screen flikkers like hell :-(??
I have tested all difrend drivers and slots (7) nothing helps ??
anyone who has the solution plzzz ?
Please help, still having issues running at 1866, tested XMP 1866 in memtest86+-4.00 DOS 100% complete no errors.
Tested 5min during Occt, Memtest, Linx. also tried standard 1866 9-9-9-24 1T still failed, can not get pass 1600 in Windows.
XMP 1866 v1.65
CPU VTT Vcore: +100mV
Dimm Voltage: [Auto] 1.650v
Everything Auto.
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Many reports of memory bugs are surfacing with BIOS 44. Some people are rolling back to 61J. See this thread http://www.evga.com/FORUMS/tm.aspx?&m=161441&mpage=1
Read the whole thing.....painfull as it may be.
I have elected to stay with 61J until these issues are resolved.
My Classified E760 should be delivered tomorrow, and i plan on having all kinds of fun with it! what should be some of the first things i should do? should i re-TIM the NB/SB and MOSFET sinks with AS5? (got an extra 12g tube just sitting... )
should i as an extra 60mm fan to the NB cooler? what are some things i should look out for? im excited! im going to hook a i7 930 to it with my GTX295 and my 6G of memory ^^
This is actually a topic of recent concern for me, as I'm waiting to pick up a pair of 5870 2GB cards....
I've read similar responses to these two at a number of places. Some say that you get true x16/x16 so long as you only use slots #1 and #4 (2 and 5 in the manual). Others are saying it's going to be x16/x8. :shrug:
Short of emailing EVGA C.S., can anyone here clarify which is true?
EDIT:
I think I found it after a little more searching. Looks like this is the real answer?
Yes, that's correct. You can run full x16 SLI/xFire on the E760 as long as you use PCIe slots 1 and 3.
The 762 has Marvell NICs instead of the crappy Realtek! That's great because at 110MHz PCI-E the Realjunk NICs would completely disappear from the board! The Asus P6T7 is the same way although a hard power cycle would usually bring them back.
It is absolutely essential to have a fan on the chipset cooler. I disconnected mine and noticed the block was quite toasty. Went into the BIOS and saw the NB temp was 109 degrees centigrade! I have a better fan (60mm) on mine and it makes a little noise (about as loud as the fan on my RAID card) but temps are now in the 60s. Amazing difference.
Indeed an active NB cooling is needed for E762. I also removed the stock fan and put one 80mm running at 7V which is quiet and the temps are arround 58-60 degrees idle and 70-75 after 2 hours Crysis with 2x285 in SLI, with the stock fan it was 70 idle..
BTW never had problems with Lan cards on my E760, even when trying 115-120MHz PCIe ;).
Looking for some help, got my E760 today installed a EK full board block temps are great and have my W3520 @ 4.4ghz linx stable. I cannot get this board above 220blck same with my old board is there something I'm missing?!?!?
Sounds like your CPU won't go any further. BCLK, unlike FSB, is not just a function of the motherboard. Think of OCing AMD chips, where the HT link multiplier had to be adjusted as you raised HTT. On i7 chips, however, you're kind of stuck.
I'd try loosening out the Classy MCH strap and lowering DRAM clock to see if you can get some more headroom. If you can push BCLK up further, your chip's IMC is not happy above 220BCLK, and there's not really much you can do on the motherboard end.
I do agree with Souls (above), It could simply be the end of the line for this specific cpu. However, we can help you more if you provide us with a template of your BIOS settings.
I did get stuck at about the BCLK 218-220 level until I made the following adjustments;
PCIE Freq = 105
QPI Signal Comp = Less
I was then able to advance the BCLK up to 236. I got to my target clocks & multipliers at that level. I do not know if I have BCLK headroom remaining.
linuxfan informed me of the pcie scaling issue so Ive gotten up to 225 so far. So I think I figured it out.
If you get it figured out, throw up a BIOS template for the rest of us who are still tweaking ours ;)
220x21 / 2:10 / 7-7-6-20
subs not tweaked
RTL 55-57-59
vTT 1.57V DMM
vDIMM 1.80V DMM
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227x21 / 2:8 / 6-6-4-18 / UNx20
RTL 60-62-64
vTT 1.61V DMM
vDIMM 1.73V DMM
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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=246459
Post your results, please, I am curious if this has something to do with the motherboard.
Some people have >20us results, mine is 70-150...
Started to get random reboots last night. This morning my system didnt post at all. It stops at code FF.
Running: at 4.2 ghz watercooled for 10 days.
NB was a little high 80-95C at full load.
EVGA VDroop Control - Without VDroop
CPU VCore - 1.28V
CPU VTT - +300mV
CPU PLL - Auto
DIMM Voltage - 1.65V
DIMM DQ Vref - +0mV
QPI PLL VCore - 1.400V
IOH VCore - 1.400V
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage 1.650V
ICH VCore - 1.250V
PWM Frequency - 1067 KHz
So i tried resetting cmos, batteri.
Tried with diffrent mem, gpu, and psu still code FF... Any suggestions what to do? RMA?
When my E760 was showing FF code it was dead, but it was because of the crap PSU which also killed 2 DFI T3eH8 before :mad:. Some people are saying pushing the BIOS chip at its socket helped but I dont know u can try. I even opened the socket removed the BIOS chip and put it again and nothing for me, but as I said it was the PSU for me u can try I hope it helps :).
You can try also removing all components from the board and try with only 24 pin ATX connector and one +12v for the CPU if its still showing FF and nothing else, and the bios chip thing is not helping I think u should RMA, and the NB temp is high u should think for a better cooling I`m wondering how high is ur Vreg temp.
The BIOS chip is located here.
thank you
il give it a try after work.
Hope it helps mate. Its sad when classified dies.
Code FF is not MB death in & of itself. I am currently running fine with FF. I disabled "P80 Show CPU Temp" within the Onboard Devices Bios Menu. Code FF presumably is the last of the POST sequence codes before the LED starts to display Temps. In my early Classified ownership days, I spent lots of time trying to track down "reserved" LCD Bios codes that in fact were Temps. lol...
Try to reset your bios boot device to a bootable dvd or cd & attempt to boot from that device instead of your HD. This will eliminate another set of variables.
Best of luck.
Yet another suggestion. In the past, I have damaged my stored profiles in the classified's BIOS. Try clearing CMOS, restoring default settings, & then manually rebuild a simple profile for your config. Keep it simple, no OC etc.
In the past, I have had ide/achi & uncore settings float in an uncontrolled manner with this board. I needed to manually rebuild all my profiles to cure this. I bring this to your attention because the symptom I observed was failure to boot a known "good" bios profile.
FF = full function. ;) (normal)
Ok guess my board is dead, and I really dont know what killed it?!
This mobo was stable at 4.2ghz for hours of priming. Now I cant get past the f.... FF same what. Maybe its the CPU? Anyone heard of someone fried there 920?
Guys,
My system recently became unstable after changing the pci payload size from 128 to 512. Not sure if it was because of that but what I do know is dropping my memory to under 1600mhz restores stability. Was mildly Oc'd at 3.2ghz (1.275v vcore w/ 1.35v vtt) on a 920 D0. I do have OCZ 1600mhz back xmp ram 3x2gb and have heard that OCZ and Evga don't play nice. Also setting cpu vtt to auto raises vtt to 1.40v. Is that even safe?
Thanks.
not sure about the payload myself but 1.40v on the vtt is perfectly fine
I have the same issue with my 950, at 4.2 is kind of OK, pushing to 4.3 and the 950 asks for relativily high voltage, I had no luck running it at 4.4 even with voltage at 1.48!
My old 920 was able to reach the 4.4 with 1.46 voltage easily.
This board seems to have lazy cpu voltage delivery compared to my Bloodrage. I run 4.4 24/7 and am running the following voltages:
VDroop: Off (for whatever reason, even though my BR was, it's not stable without it)
VCore: 1.43v
VTT: +200
VDimm: 1.72
Everything else is at stock. I'm 20-pass linpak stable.
--Matt
I`m also running 4.4ghz on my i7 920 + E762.
Vdroop - Without Vdroop
CPU Voltage - 1.4v
DRAM Voltage - 1.65v
QPI PLL - 1.2v
IOH - 1.15v
CPU VTT - 1.2v
CPU PLL - 1.8v
IOH PLL - 1.8v
NF200 - 1.2v
and all others at default too
It passed 2 hours prime 95 at 1.375v(CPU voltage) but its not linx stable after 4-5 loops it gives me error. Today I decided to try 1.3875v to lower the temps and it passed 10 loops linx with no problem, more testing to come.
I have patriot viper extreme 3x2gb 1600mhz ddr3 with cl8 timing
I oced my i7 920 with a e760 to 3.4ghz with vcore of 1.16250v and memory 2:10 1633mhz 812mhz dram frq with timing of 11-11-11-30-88-1T i left the latency at auto but i dunno what numbers to input :P
Try 8-8-8-24-72-1T.
That makes sense. I never confirmed with a DMM, but there's not really any other solid explanation for it. This board overshoots on VTT and VDimm, so none of them are perfect. Nevertheless, this board is "easier" to clock and has a much more intuitive bios.
--Matt
I've noticed that in software monitoring it overshoots vtt and vdimm, but is that true when testing with an actual mm? I just got this board, so I haven't yet had the time to test it myself.
my vdimm says 1.66v but i put 1.61v which is weird
BIOS voltage has been pretty close to actual on my 3 classifieds, but yes the software is not close. from what I have seen
Anybody knows if Classified E762 (or E760) works with a X5650(B0)?
Not yet afaik.
Hey guys...is it possible to boot the CF with these high bclks?
My Gigabyte is booting with 224x21 but that's the end of all! No more Mhz but one in superpi1m.
Some guys told me to boot the CF with 220 and raise the bclk up to 230 and so on. Is that true?
Having experience on both Foxconn Bloodrage and Evga 760 boards, which one would you recommend? (for i7 920 on air) (besides the more friendly bios)
Another board I am considering is the Gigabyte UD7.
I know this is a EVGA thread but I would appreciate everyone's honest opinion.
Thanks.
For pure overclocking the Classified is the best. However, if you only want a moderate overclock (< 4.5GHz) then an UD7 or even an UD5 is fine.
I think UD7 is not really good for subzero and memory tweaking, but that's it.
They should be both about as good on air / water.
Don't get Bloodrage.
Thank you for the responses.
Ok, so it is down to UD7 and 760. :)
Don't I still need a good motherboard because of the low multiplier of the 920 despite the relatively lower cpu overclock from air cooling? :shrug:
I have the 3x2Gb 1600 Mushkin Redlines Cas:6 with the Core i7 920 on air.
I still need to tweak the mem as much as I can. I have no idea how they will scale.
You won't have problems with bclk on most boards until ~210. So unless you are planning on going over 4.3GHz, I wouldn't worry about picking a board based on bclk.
Thank you all.
I do see high overclocks in excess of 4.3Ghz with air.
I am also getting the itch for watercooling, the more I research. :yepp:
I am trying to see if watercooling actually needs a higher multiplier cpu to shine.
May I ask what the bottleneck is with your watercooled setup for example?
You show 4.4GHz at 1.375 volts in your sig. I assume your reported speed is with Turbo enabled with 21 multiplier at single core on that 920.
Probably temperature isn't your constraint at that voltage with watercooling.
210*21=4410Mhz which puts your blck right around the mentioned 210 number. Are you bound by the blck limit of the cpu or the blck limit of the motherboard? (Assuming you owned more than 1 cpu or 1 motherboard)
I am also curious to know which case you are using with your watercooling. :)
Thanks!
I'm only under water, but I don't really think the cost of the upgrade was worth it on this chip and my current cooling. I can elaborate on the various aspects of OCing on both boards though.
Max OC: The Bloodrage OC'd as well as the Classy does on my 920 max clock for max clock.
Max Stable BCLK: The Classified with 61J or 44 is less stable at higher BCLKs than the Bloodrage with the G25 bios. 225 on the BR is linpak stable without any issues. I can only get 222 linpak stable on the Classified.
Memory Clocks: No difference on either board.
Ease of OCing: The classy easily takes the cake on this, especially on memory timings. Seeing what you're currently running on every single timing in the bios makes things MUCH easier.
Power Management: C1E power states are broken once the voltage is increased on the Classified. The clock drops at idle, but the voltage does not. I find it very irritating, and have filed a bug with EVGA about it.
Slot Layout: Triple SLI/Crossfire. Need I say more?
That said, the Classified obviously has much more refined power circuitry and cooling. I'd imagine this will make a bigger difference with 6-core cpus than it does with quads. With Quantum Force dead and buried, I wouldn't jump on a BR at this point. It's a little lame that the Classified undershoots on the BCLK, but +1 fixes that.
-Matt
The area where watercooling really helps is with temperature. You can really raise the voltages when on water because the temps are lower. Even with a moderately high vcore, I do not go over 75C at 100% load.
My watercooling is not the bottleneck at the moment, I am. :) I have been so busy and tired lately that I have not had time to really push the CPU. I probed around 4.5GHz but I did not test stable at 1.4 vcore, so I backed off until I had more time to tweak the CPU. I can't tell if I have hit a bclk wall or not, but I doubt it since many people have run at 5GHz+ on DICE and LN2.
i would think it be simple to get to 3.8ghz but im having trouble getting my classified to boot at 3.8ghz with a i7 920 d0 chip :S
any thoughts?