Still no BIOS update with M3A79-T DELUXE?
Well I got my Crosshair IV Formula waiting :(
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Still no BIOS update with M3A79-T DELUXE?
Well I got my Crosshair IV Formula waiting :(
I think it will be my next motherboard:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/...5_v2.0_big.jpg
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...=GA-890FXA-UD5
But I do not like the idea of buying DDR3 memory while I have 8 GB of DDR2 memory :(
Good news folks! :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
This thread is useless without links!
Patience my friend, patience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolk
Going to need a little more of that.. ;) There is a critical bug that needs attention so validation testing will resume tomorrow after it is fixed. That puts us on schedule for a release next Wednesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechromancer
The update is much appreciated Bingo13. I will order my X6 next Wednesday then haha.
I am glad this is gettng close attention and I am sure your testing feedback on the beta caused them to look at this more closely. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
However, this issue is present in M4A79 Deluxe and M3N-HT Deluxe x6 bios, M3N-HT Deluxe being the worst release with not being able to run my 1090T at anything beyond 3200Mhz - multiplier appears to be locked at 16 no matter what the setting is in the Bios.
Whatever they are fixing here needs to be replicated across at least the two of the boards I have tested and perhaps more. Eagerly waiting for the Wed release :shocked:
I am no longer seeing this board listed under the 1090T CPU support list. So did something change? Bingo13 need an update please
There isn't one coming for the board. End of line with support for this board and the X6's
no!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner133
I can't afford a new board now stupid car broke down :(
I see this as a dream thats all! When I wake up, there will be good news.
I haven't switch to Crosshair IV yet
just to see what can 1090T do with M3A79-T DELUXE
Too bad no BIOS support.......yet :(
Bingo13 said to wait until Wednesday (5/19/2010). Let's see what update he gives us tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed.
Well its the 19th and nothing yet, so I just hit the order button for a new motherboard that does support the X6, sorry to say it's not from Asus.
It will be released in a few mintues as promised on the 19th. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner133
BIOS 1606 -
Initial Support for Thuban based Processors -
http://www.mediafire.com/file/wymyzm...eluxe-1606.rom
THANKS a lot Bingo13. Will play with the new bios tonight and update the thread. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Bingo, if I could kiss you I would
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Faith restored in ASUS & Now to shop for ThurbanQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
This is great news. HOORAY!
Unfortunately for me, my 1090T budget is getting eaten up by a need to install my quick ratio steering rack and Earl's high pressure line in my car this weekend. No X6 for a couple more weeks :(. I guess I'll let you boys beta test in the meantime hehehe.
Just checked and no such BIOS listed in download section at Asus. Till it's offical from Asus there is no support. You should attach a warning "Use at your own Risk".
I'll try it tomorrow. Thanks :)
It is an official BIOS and will be up at the FTP and product pages in the next day or so. I work for ASUS so I think the support is pretty much official at this point. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner133
Wait on that, still have some tuning to do on the BIOS. Thuban support on the first gen 790FX boards were a little harder to do based on turbo mode and Core 0 power management.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolk
When I see it on an Asus web page I'll believe it. I have a few customers waiting for it. I couldn't wait any longer. I had to buy a new board today. Not that I didn't want to wait, the time limit on exchange or money back for my 1090T is very near. It needs a board that supports it by Friday. Sorry for Asus, I'll still sell the boards but I won't be using one. This should have been out right after the X6 release. My new board will be here tomorrow. I just don't like spending a couple hundred for a paper weight. If there would have been a BIOS sooner I was planing on waiting for the Crosshair IV Extream to come out. Won't have to now.
A friend of mine with a m3a79-T deluxe tested this bios for your viewing pleasure.
Without further ado:
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2...010182smsm.jpg
So people stop being so grumpy and jump aboard ;-)
Working with the BIOS right now. Really doesn't like to OC from what I can tell. I'll write up a full bug list by the end of this week.
Good News:
1. loaded the new BIOS without issues. Did a full CMOS clear, battery out blah blah....
2. My 1090T is properly recognized and runs at default with no issues (8GB GSkill DDR2 2.0v - works fine in dual channel)
Bad News:
1. No overclocking is possible. The bios completely ignores the CPU multiplier setting. For example: setting the multiplier to 20, the board still boots at 3.2 (default)
2. Raising the bus to 250, multiplier to 16 - no boot.
VERY disappointed. :eek:
Need a new BIOS ASAP.
Just tried 240, posted but during OS load it stopped.
225 is good tho.
PM me your setup please. We have another build coming that has some additional fine tuning in it but I have not seen this problem yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4spooky
What is the diff between a first gen board like the M3A79T-Dlx and a second gen M4A79 Dlx? Did the M4's have more power plane options or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Did you disable CnQ? That is a requirement on the 790FX with Thuban compared to the 890FX chipsets in order for the multipliers to hold. Also, voltages will have to be tuned manually when overclocking at this point as the auto rule set is still being tuned due to the differences between chipsets.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4spooky
Thanks for the quick response Bingo13. PM sent. Let me know if you need more info.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
CNQ/C1E both disabled under CPU Config. All voltage settings are manually set - Nothing in Auto. Still noticed the downclocking in CPUZ which I can ignore for now if I can get this to overclock. The chip runs at 1.4 4000Mhz (200X20) on a Foxconn A79A-SQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Got it, working on it now. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by p4spooky
Any reason why we can't use Multipliers to OC?
Quick update:
So in the BIOS or in POST, the CPU information does not update the CPU speed, but will with the CPU-NB.
Here is my 1090T :)
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8239/x62.png
Witch is the default voltage for this processor?
I can't set up the multiplier.
Yep - pretty similar to what I am seeing as well. Cannot overclock from the BIOS or AOD. Multiplier change is completely ignored. The Motherbaord Temp of 89C is puzzling. Can you run http://cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php and post a screen shot of HW Monitor? I suspect the 89C is the PWM temp which looks pretty high for Default settings.
Here is the screen shot:Quote:
Originally Posted by p4spooky
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3491/tempuu.png
I'm running BOINC with the sixcore and two ATI 5850, the ATIs are around 70ºC.
The case is well ventilated. It is a Dragon Lord 58, with a 14cm fan getting air, and two 12cm fans pulling air up. The processor is ventilated with an Corsair H50.
CPU Temp says I have 15C....
Although the BIOS Temp guage seems to be working fine.
Just got 231 to work on the FSB.
Using a vLite version of Vista though, so not to sure how it will work on a standard OS.
We have another BIOS in testing for the 1090T multiplier problems and to resolve some of the low HT Ref Clock problems. I will give an update once it hits qualification testing.
Cool thanks man.
Btw, 4.0ghz is Possible, at least in a vLite OS. Not quite stable but it works.
Thanks Bingo13, will wait for the next beta :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Has anybody tried this BIOS to make sure it still works with older quads? If not, I'll try it out and see how everything works.
Yep, tested with 2 cpus (unlock still fails for 550be)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechromancer
New Option for Hardware IO (cpu config)
OC seems Fine Some issues though.
Mutli 13xNB does not like (did 1001 and others)
(955BE OC nicely) 4ghz (hot 60c air)
http://demoncomputers.pwp.blueyonder...6_955BE_C2.jpg
OK more testing instead of booting from defaults..
And thats the problem >> It will not post if changing anything CPU related or dram. Back to 803/1001 for me.
Also boots at 800mhz
CNQ disable/enabled
HDZ955FGBIBOX
Any updates?
I should have a new beta to try late this week or early next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolk
Hope its late this week - would give us the long weekend to play with it :)
Coo Thanks
Ok after reading this forum i bought a 1055T:D What a great processor with bios 1606 Beta it works like a charm! Even Turbo mode works at 3.3 Ghz.
What i don't understand is that every time i start overdrive it only displays 3 cores?
When i start device manager it displays 6 cores. How can i enable the six cores to test them e.g. 3dmark vantage?
That's the only thing i have the system is rock stable!
Still no offical support for the X6 CPU's from Asus.
Thanks to Bingo13 for the BIOS !
System is also very stable with Phenom 1090T, and turbo core is working too.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/2139/__10.jpg
After the 1606 Beta bios and the stability i think we get soon official support.
My hopes are up for Bingo13:up: and lets hope we see a new bios after the weekend.
@Bingo13 can you please post the change list of the new bios?
I have some things in AMD overdrive like the turbo core button. It displays 3 cores @ 3300 MHz. In the right corner of the turbo core window you can select the cores with a maximum of 5. What ever i choose nothing happens it only displays 3 cores.
Well rest me to say keep up the good work dude! My thumbs are up!:up:
:D Ok it's not a bios or AMD overdrive problem. It's a Windows problem. I've you're previous system had 3 or 4 cores and you've edited msconfig -> boot -> advanced options and put it to 3 or 4 cores then windows is capped it to 3 or 4 cores:mad: Just uncheck the box reboot and then you have 6 cores!!!!:shocked:
So no more problems 4 me everything is rock stable!
There is official support for the X6 processors in the 1606 BIOS. I am officially supporting it on the forums and have released it as such. We will have another BIOS update with additional tuning improvements shortly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner133
No there is not offical support for the X6 processor on this board. If there were it would be avalible from Asus directly. Asus wouldn't require you to go to a third party site for the download. You in fact said the BIOS would be avalible last month on the Asus site but none is still avalible. I thank you on the work your doing. But at the same time, as a buisness I can not recomend using your BIOS to my customers. It needs to come from Asus.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Does anyone not understand that Bingo works for ASUS. He is 100% employed by their company. So thus if he says that something is being supported by ASUS, I would bet that he is speaking the truth. Why is it so hard to believe someone on forums these days? You come here to get answeres to questions that you will believe is correct, but than turn around and deny the utter truth when its smaking you in the face.
Stop saying Asus will not support the X6 on the M3A79T-DLX. Becaue they are.
Look he may work for Asus. But till Asus takes one of these BIOS files and lists it on there download page, there is no offical support for the M3A79T-Deluxe board. If he works for Asus all it proves is they are working on supporting the board. For one, I never said they will not support the X6 on the board. All I've said is there is no offical support for the board. The only question I've had is when will there be offical support fo the board. Even Bingo said that would be on the 19th of last month and that day has long come and gone. On the 19th he said it would be a couple more days before it would be on the Asus web site. Well there still isn't one. The plan truth is, when one is listed on the Asus site then there will be OFFICIAL ASUS support for the board. Till that day arrives all anyone using Bingo's supplied BIOS is doing is beta testing. Granted many of the people that use this site enjoy doing beta testing. I have people that pay me to support this board in their systems. I can not and will not subject them to becoming lab rats by doing beta testing on systems they rely on for everyday use.
Well this is nice. I found out that when you start AMD overdrive and select the turbo core button then the cores which will be in turbo core mode (max 5) all the 6 cores are clocked from 2.8 GHz to 3.3 Ghz.
When ever i start my system all the cores are working on 3.3 GHz!:D
The max temp they get is 48 degrees! (Thanks 2 the Coolermaster HAF 932!).
I will post screen-shots tonight (i am at work)
Ok guys here is the promised screen-shot you can see that the six cores are running above the 3 GHz. I didn't overclock all i did was i selected under the turbo core button (AMD overdrive) all 5 cores and pressed ok.
After that all six cores are running above the 3 GHz by default:eek:
TerRrOr4U gave me an idea today at work.
So you can OC via multiplier, but you have to use Turbo Mode in AOD.
Things are a bit limited but I'm pretty sure I can do some things with this now. I'm going to test how stable it is now.
Well Dolk,
I can tell you that my system is very stable with 6 cores on 3.3 GHz:up:. No problems. And everything is running fine, i do not have any problems with beta bios 1606.
And with every core running on 3.3 GHz i am not going to overclock.
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/8030/49051082.jpg
Yeah the Multi works with AOD. To bad I maxed out at this. :D
Ehhhh 4.4 GHz :eek: tjee and i thought that 3.3 GHz was a lot....
4.4 GHz on all the six cores?
That's a lot dude what's the temp of the cores?
Well i can't play with the multiplier because it's locked (1055T) 16.5 is the max (3.3 GHz) and they are all (6 cores) running on it :D
This is absolutely excellent performance on our old M3A79T-Dlx! I think it's safe to say the Phenom X6 works well with this motherboard now. Charged sent me a water block and radiator to begin my water cooling setup so when I get the last couple of pieces I'll have a water cooled X6 in this system. I'm now actually torn between buying a newer car and spending a bunch on my system (my priorities are XTREMEly screwed up sometimes).
I just got my new 3 120 Rad, so I can go a bit colder.
Oh and keep quite about this, but here is a sneak peek of the work I've been doing :D
http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...70_20530_marks
Coool nice score Dolk!
Well i'm more a gamer then a overclocker (well i do a little bit in overclocking but that is nothing compared to you LOL).
I am very happy that my sixcores are working on 3.3 Ghz. I will post my vantage score tonight because i am at work.
@Bingo13 is there news about the new beta bios?
Very promising piece Dolk...:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolk
4.4 for 6core in this board is outstanding i think....
Have you tried clocking your DDR2 higher ? I wonder what the DDR2 IMC of X6 cpu's is capable of.
Thanx
Well here is the promised 3DMark Vantage score. The middle score is all cores on 2.8 GHz.
The one on the left is after my AMD overdrive tweak:D (all cores @ 3.3GHz)
Bingo are you still alive?
Something new at the Asus front?
Hey guys,
I have been messing with the beta bios and my 1090T
I was able to rock this for 10 whole minutes LOL
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1240356
Regardless I'm loving this CPU. My setup consists of:
Antec 900 case
Asus M3A79-T Deluxe motherboard
AMD Phenom II 1090t CPU
OCZ Vandetta 2 CPU heatsink with the fan replaced with a COOLER MASTER R4-L2R-20CR-GP 120mm
2 2GB Gskill DDR2 1066 RAM
64GB Kingston SSD
(2) 500GB Seagate HD
(1) 1.5 TB Seagate HD
In the link above it shows i have a 5850 with low clock speeds. They sent me the wrong card and I'm RMAing it for a HIS 5870 Reference card that I will OC to 1GHZ or a tad over.
My idle when the CPU is at stock settings is 13C lol wut? hah
Anyways I'm def looking forward to a official BIOS. Any news Bingo?
I'm hoping someone can shed some light on an issue I'm having with one of my clients PC's.
The system is based on an Asus M3A79-T which, for the past year or so, had been working flawlessly. Yesterday the system failed to power on. The case is an Antec Sonata 3 with an Antec Earthwatts 500W power supply. When I pulled the side panel off, I noted that the built-in power and reset buttons were both flashing on/off/on/off endlessly. So I figured the power supply must be faulty. I tested the power supply with a power supply tester and all tests came back "ok" but I have seen power supplies test good before that weren't.
I used my shop power supply (some no-name 350W jobber w/ 4-pin 12v) and when plugged in, both the power and reset lights lit up solid, and when the computer was turned on... everything fired up, but no post, and no beeps. I decided to pull the ram out of the mainboard and fire it up again, I got the default triple beep related to no memory, and at least that instilled me with some confidence that the board was still functional. I put 1 stick of memory back in, and it posted, I put both sticks of memory back in, no post.
I tried stick #1 in slot A and slot C and it works fine. I tried stick #2 in slot A, worked fine, but when I put stick #2 in slot C it failed to post. Weird. Okay, so now I'm working with stick #1 in slot A because I know it posts fine. I replace the power supply with a brand new unit from stock, the power and reset lights on the board come on solid, but pressing the power button does nothing. I try with my old beat up no-name testing power supply and it works fine.
I opened 6 new power supplies trying to find one that would work and no matter what I do - I can't get this board to work properly! I tried 2 other Antec Earthwatts (500W & 650W) power supplies, which have the same result, the blinking power and reset buttons. I tried 2 other brand new power supplies, those keep the lights on solid, but the board will not fire. The only way I can get the board to fire up is with my crappy old jobber. That doesn't make any sense to me.
Just for the record, ALL of the power supplies I attempted (even the original 500w that the pc had been running on up until now) work fine in my bench machine. I can use any of the 6 power supplies to fire up other machines and work just fine. I don't understand why some ram works in some slots but not in others, and why some power supplies work and some don't. I'm starting the think the board is the root of the problem? Unfortunately my company doesn't sell AMD products so I don't have another processor or board to continue testing.
^Just an idea:
While the wattage rating on the PSU may be good, the amps may not. My old DFI board and this ASUS are boards that required a certain amperage on the -12v line. My current PSU puts out 0.8amps on the -12V. I think these boards require 0.6 or 0.7 on that line to work properly. A lot of PSUs just don't meet that spec. I think I bought 2 or 3 before I figured out the cause.
This may or may not be your problem, but I figure your old, beat up PSU is kinda beefy where this board likes it.
@ rob GL Is the mobo still in the chasis?
Sounds maybe somthing possibly shorting/ or bad connection somewhere.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechromancer
This board recommends a 600W power supply, according to the manual, which I think is a little high. But in response to the amperage on the -12V rail, my old trusty testing power supply has only 0.3amps on the -12V rail. The other power supplies I tested range from 0.3amps to 0.8amps and none of them work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gener_AL (UK)
The original 500W Antec power supply that comes with the case (and had been working for a year up to now) has 0.8amps on the -12V rail. As I said, I tested this power supply with a PSU Tester and all tests came back fine, and then I installed this power supply into another computer and it works fine.
I also have a brand new power supply, which is the same brand and same part number as my testing power supply, with the exact same specifications on all rails... And it doesn't work to fire up the machine either.
And yes, the mainboard is still mounted in the chassis, and it doesn't seem like a shorting problem to me. This computer has worked fine for a year and then just stopped. It doesn't make sense. Also, if it was shorting, you would see inconsistent results. It would fire up sometimes and not others. But that's not the case. It fires up every single time with ONE specific power supply and never fires up with any other.
Okay, so, just to update anyone who was actually reading my plight... I bought a new board for the customer (M4A79 Deluxe) and all my earlier suspicions were confirmed. The M3A79-T is faulty, because when the new board was swapped in everything started working just fine. The new board works with all of the power supplies tested. What a weird, weird problem to diagnose, but I've never had good luck with Asus boards. Well... Except for my A8R32-MVP Deluxe way back in the day.
Thouight id bump thiis , new BIOS!!!! As Posted By Bingo13 here
M3A79-T Deluxe
BIOS 1609
1. Fixed CPU/NB Voltage setting may be not be set correctly for Thuban.
2. Improved support of CPU ratio control for Thuban.
3. Improved overclocking support for Thuban under high HT Frequency or HT Ref Clock.
4. Improved DRAM clocking with Thuban
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gmkwni...Deluxe1609.rar
Glad to hear you got the system up and running rob[GL], unlucky about the board.
Whats the word on this new BIOS? How is it performing for you guys?
New to the forums but i bought an M3A79 because of this board.
Got a Sempy 140 running at 3.4 on stock cooler on 1.39 volts barely breaks 46c.
Using the new bios and it seems to be all good. It unlocked the other core but it seems like my one is defective. Keeps getting rounding errors in Prime and seems to slow the whole system down to a crawl.
Is the M3A79 falling out of favour with a lot of people?
If you want my complete specs ill gladly give them to you.
I'm about to try the 1609 on my Phenom II 940 to see if I can squeeze some more Mhz on air (water setup will wait for X6). My chip has a hard time staying at 3.6Ghz without occasionally locking up in games :(.
Im on the stock cooler and im not breaking 46 degress C but i cant seem to break the 2500mhz HT barrier :S
Ive got the HT link at 250mhz and as soon as i go to 251 it refuses to post. Chip or motherboard do you think is holding me back?
might be that reason
Which one then? CPU or Board?
Quick question:
Can I boot from external drives on this mobo? Either FW or eSATA? I'm looking to run a different OS(x) on a different drive and swap between the two......
Sorry to necromance the thread but has anyone been running into memory issues with all four slots being occupied?
Either with speeds or any sort of errors?
most cpu's will need a cpu NB bump and Nb board bump to stabilize 4 dimms filledQuote:
Originally Posted by Panther_Seraphi
OK that doesnt sound like too much of a problem but im having a few issues such as the HT multiplier sticking at 4x with anything over 252 on the ht speed. Is this a known problem?
Also i seem to be able to only run my ram at the lowest divider at increased speeds even though i can run the ram at 833 at 3-4-4-12 with a lower HT speed :S
I can't run all 4 slots at 1066 with even loosened timings and proper volts. It seems to be my PII 940's fault and not the motherboard's though. I know this because I cannot run TWO sticks at 1066!Quote:
Originally Posted by Panther_Seraphi
Also, you got a really high HT overclock. Good job on that.
Well at the moment my HT link is at 1100 but the bus speed ive got running at 275 stable and still trying to see where i can go with it :)
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1388011
What do people think?
Just so you know that CPUz is reading the voltage i set in bios with a .05 overvolt
So anyone tryed the new 1702 BIOS ? What new changes brings this bios ? ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/asus/mb/so...3A79-T_Deluxe/
On Asus M3A79-T Deluxe download page there is no information about this ;they didnt post it there ,only on the ftp.
I used to own M3A79T-DeluxeQuote:
Originally Posted by Panther_Seraphi
but I give in and sell it away (purchase an Crosshair IV Formula , it rocks !)
So I can no longer test any BIOS :(
Thats ok.
Im still fiddling around with it.
Does anyone think that the chipset runs quite hot? How did people cool the chipset down better?
Did anyone end up using the Anfi Tec coolers for it?
I am finally going to do my upgrade on this board. Right now I am stuck with my ram at 800mhz because I only have an am2 cpu and not an am2+ cpu. I am going to get a phenom soon though so that should fix that. However the user manual states "DDR2 1066 MHz is supported by AM2+ CPU for one DIMM per channel only."
Does this mean I can't fill all the memory slots up and have them run at 1066mhz?:confused:
Also I only a thermalright xp-90 for a heatsink. Is that going to be too small for an x3 or x4 phenom?
It means that the speed will be 800 for 4 stick unless you overclock.
That will depend on the CPU. What phenom arson you getting bland what sort of overclock you going for?
That sounds kinda crummy. Why would they limit it like that on 4 sticks vs 2 sticks? Or is 800mhz just the normal speed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Panther_Seraphi
I am not sure of the cpu yet. It will be one of the newer phenoms, the x2,x3, or x4 depending on how much heat I think I can take...
I don't plan on overclocking if I can help it.