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That NB sink is different than the ones on both sammys I had. Interesting.
BTW, if you want the pinout for the front panel LEDs (power, HD, and both NICs) I have that.
D_A: :woot:
Thanks Sparky, I got the manual for the board a while back. Definitely worth the download! :) For now it's just going to live in that box until I can get a real case for it and possibly turn it into my daily drive.
The only downside to using it as a daily PC is no sound. you just have the really long white slot and then the PCIe slot. Put a real vid card in the PCIe slot and... still no sound :shrug: USB headphones I guess would work, but meh I like speakers.
According to the manual that long white slot can take regular PCI cards just fine. I have a couple of old PCI Sound cards kicking around so it shouldn't be a bother.
Oh rly? Well sweet then. Stick a SB Audigy 2 ZS in there or something like that and you'd have a pretty darn nice rig :up:
I may have to do that to my current sossaman, for a spare game rig. OCCASIONALLY USED! I would still guarantee 99.9% crunching time during its life :rofl:
That's a PCI-X slot and is backward compatible with a PCI slot..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
What it was is a slot prior to PCI-E for the "big guys" that needed 266MB/s speeds from the PCI slots..Raid cards,etc..
I have a cheapo Promise IDE controller card in one that has a couple old 120 gig IDE drives attached.
Where did you get the manual? Or could you send it to me?Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
Many thanks in advance.
I got it from the Intel site (this is for the Intel board specifically of course).
Here's a zip archive of the relevant docs for the board.
There might well be others, but that's what I've got so far.
I think I have part of those. Many thanks.
YGPMQuote:
Originally Posted by Jaco
Anyone got a working board with mems? PM me :) If i can get enough parts would build another for my parents...
Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
This is what i use to get sound on my Sossaman. :rofl:
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-3D-Audio-Sou...item3cac1d45ba
Usb hub too: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-4-Port-USB-1...item5d28328416
I'm hoping a X-Fi XM will work under W7 in that PCI-X.. I'm really hoping to make sossy my daily driver
I might have a new sammy-kind build for a little bit richer people or that are more ready to spend more money.
Amd opteron 8core 2.0ghx cpu 300$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and
Dual g34 motherboard for 470$
Add to this some 2x2gb server memory kit (around 130$)
and a gpu of your choice and you have a serious cruncher for around 1500$ and that dosent eat alot of juice. I am really thinking about getting that and use it as my main rig(i dont play a lot and i can do my homework while crunching) and get a benchmarking rig for overclocking fun and sell everyother piece i have left.
no, its mostly because for me, this a very nice cruncher rig for not alot of money ( well to me). Its the kind of build that could the new sammy rig in the next 2-4years. Thats what i meant by my post.
True, given that when Sammy was new, the boards alone were $400. Not to mention whatever the CPUs used to run.Quote:
Originally Posted by snoro
thank you i was begining to feel super poor.. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
well my judgement was mostly from the fact that if amd keep the g34 as long as they kept am2 and socket f, for me it was some very nice value for the cost of a decent completly new gaming rig. But as i said in my op, its not a cheap rig.Definitly not.
hey i am not made of money, i am just a student, but i dont have alot of stuff to pay so i have that kind of money to spend on a nice main do everything rig. Also for everyone using their sammy as daily rig. You use which os and do this os that you use limits you on the software you can use ?
speaking of the SI3124 on the mobo - I wonder if it can take a SATA port multiplier.. according to SI website SI3124 is compat.. but u never know :rolleyes:
Did I hear someone mention building a dual G34 system?:sofa:
Case..check
PSU: check
Memory:check
drives:check
cpus:check
motherboard and heatsinks..April 25..check..:wasntme:
well, yeah i might not have enough funding for 2 12 core cpu but those 8 core 2.0ghz opteron are not that much costly(to me).
Question. Which form factor does the SE7520BB2 use, and what are the dimensions? There's nothing online :/
it is E-ATX
330x305mm? It can go in my Zalman HTPC case :D
http://www.centrix-intl.com/details.asp?productid=4675
back in stock! :)
I can't remember was the price $9 or $19? $9 seems cheaper. keep telling myself I don't need a 3rd sammyQuote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
It was $19 or if you bought 5 it was $9.99Quote:
Originally Posted by JAWS
I made some calls to them and told them if they could get more I knew people that would buy them. Seems like they listened so my thinking is grab an extra board for this price and tuck it away in case you have one die.
wow ten bucks? where can we find the cpus for this board? sorry, noob here..
Pity that shipping cost to Europe is so high :/ and what about CPUs availability? There is literally nothing on ebay.
I think I grabbed the last chips off of ebay for now..
10 for artem and 4 extras for me..:hrhr:
are these the right ones just lower clocks?: http://cgi.ebay.com/SL98Q-XEON-LV-1-...item53e0114416
yes, but I'd get the 2000's if possible and if you see a 2167 being sold PM me, call me, wake me up, toss a grenade at the front door but just let me know!:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by shoota
In the other thread I believe Bail said these would workIntel Xeon Dual Core 2GHz/667 MHz 2MB SL8WT FCPGA SCKT. My only issue is I would need 3-4 of these to equal what my 920 is producing:(
Yup, and thats the deal to buy, got a bunch from him, shipped fast and properly packed. That is a scheap as you'll find them.Quote:
Originally Posted by [HTO]Hunter
Agreed on your last statement, really a mistake to build a bunch, but one is nice or they also make for a very decent desktop for daily work but you do need a EATX case for them..
As I mentioned earlier, I have one in a Lian Li PC62B and it's a very nice little rig.
does the bsel mod mentioned way earlier in this thread work?
Not that I'm aware of. I never tried because someone else said it didn't.
gotcha, sorry to ask all these ?'s but i gotta learn it all :) what all is needed, mobo, cpus, ram, power supply, case?, back plate (what is that for?), hard drive, etc, what am i overlooking?
heat sinks..google 'OEMXS" :DQuote:
Originally Posted by shoota
Special HS for these systems, $10.00 each..
back plates available from Performance PC's in Florida, $2.95 and shipping. Lian Li plate I think is the description
Backplate is to mount the heatsinks to.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoota
case, well, it is EATX, so just use cardboard, or an open bench... or what I recently did was chop up an old ATX case to allow the EATX board to fit :D
ah that makes sense, so for a crunching-only rig what should i expect to spend on one sos rig?
150 dollars after tax and shipping.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoota
sa-weet! i think i have my mom talked into buying one and letting me set it up at her house :)
Hmm... $180 per node is just so cheap for 4 cores, I really can't resist. I still don't see how an i7 is more cost effective for large crunch, I think I'm going to go through with my plans to put 16 sammy rigs together at some point.
(looks at the purdy 2167 sammy) or 13..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by gongo
lol. are they rare or what?
Very.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoota
ok found the $10 heatsinks dave was referring to. do they get hot enough that they need fans on them?
at 100% load: 69C without fans, 34C with a cheap 80mm fan screwed into the fins on the heatsink.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoota
I've had indirect airflow on them (120mm low speed intake fans blowing in their general direction) and had temps of about 45C.
Right now I have direct airflow from a slow 80mm on each one, I should check the temps and see how cold they are.
alright so that's a yes. well i'm gonna plan one of these babies out and hopefully get her added to the mix. i'm sure i'll have some more questions soon :) which OS and how much ram to use comes to mind..
1GB works fine, ran that in one for quite a while. My current has 2GB but it also folds on the GTX260 I stuck in it, so it needs more ram. XP Pro works fine on them, I'm running server 2008 currently but that's only because I got it for free when I was a college student :p:
and that's what i am currently :) finally found a good reason to download those server editions from dreamspark ha. well since today is my birthday i just might have a little extra cash coming my way :)
Happy birthday shoota, mine was yesterday.
i want to get rack mount.. but fans blow A$$ :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
so if building one of these for parents that want "quiet" computer what psu should i use? sound card/USB audio?
also with video cards can it take a pci card? only 1x pci-x?
there are 3 options:Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
1) put a PCI v.card in the PCI-X slot
2) put a PCIEx1 v.card in the PCIEx8 slot
3) mod the PCIEx8 slot so that can accomodate a PCIEx16 v.card
u could also do options 2 *or* 3 *&* option 1 at same time, thus 2 v.cards
Yup, I can see it now..Quote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
Tomorrow Gongo will have 2-ATI 5970's in there running Vantage!:rofl:
Now I can see you with 10 sammys hooked together with Infiniband out doing my SR2 rig but running Vantage..nope, don't see that!:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
225$ 2x dual core complete system sounds pretty good, too bad I have no where to put it. Would it survive if I just put on the floor in a corner, I have no idea what kind of cooling these things need?Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
I was willing to buy 1 or 2 of these boards but the shipping to canada (62$) kinda disturbed me. I have paypal : Can anybody in the usa with some spare time give me a hand? They look like a blast to build.. I guess we'll be rebuilding i7 in a couple of years :D
Edt : I'm looking forward to tommorow morning. The girlfriend is sleeping in bed.. I guess I'm going to bed too NAOW. Too much sossaman in one evening
The chips are 31W TDP, so they don't require much. Mine is currently running in the cardboard box that the mobo came in (though the PSU is sitting on the bench next to it) and with the lid a bit more than half open (and the fans cannibalized from a couple of old Northwood P4 HSF units) it's running at temps my dual core Opterons could only DREAM of!Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Maw
Ok, after 6 days of 24/7 it's averaging 6700 for me (running my filtering web proxy with virus scanner as well) so I've recompiled my kernel to wring some more out of it. Cut almost a full second off the boot time, which is irrelevant in itself but illustrates the reduction in active processes being loaded.
Okay, I have a question. Will a regular xeon 771 heatsink work on these or will they not tighten down enough to have good contact with the chip?
No, it will not work. You are risking of damaging the core.Quote:
Originally Posted by hedge
Poop...well looks like I will be ordering the abbheatsinks then. I hadQuote:
Originally Posted by Bail_w
some xeon fans lying around that I could have used. What is the difference between them?
I should have taken some pix and measurements before mounting them ... the proper items have a significant step machined into the mounting face to produce a little platform the same size as the chip assembly (not the die, the whole thing) but standing about 5mm proud of the rest of the surface. That step needs to be exactly right or you'll either crush the die or not make contact.
*sigh.. I'll finally get home 2nd june.. cant wait to work, earn money & *finally build a sossaman rig... in the mean time, the wait continues :(
Hey if you want more ppd we're organizing a bulk buy of a quad socket quad core amd build. Just look for it a couple threads down.
Ok nub here, what's a Sossaman?
just worry about the arima board lol! j/k, (but not really) it's a dual socket server board that takes two dual core cpu's that can built for around $150. pretty good point to dollar ratio
Cool man, thanks.
edit: oh and back to the Arima!
can any of you find any of the sossaman stuff in stock?
http://www.centrix-intl.com/details.asp?productid=4675
supposedly not in stock :shrug: :( ... only one man to ask: MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVIEMANNNNNN!!!!!!!! :p: :D
Seriously, read the whole thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by retro77
The Sossaman is a low voltage Xeon dual core chip. While they are 32bit only, they are rock solid, reliable hardware use little power and are cheap to build a whole system with. There are specific parts that need to be used, but they're not expensive either. XS probably has the highest concentration of these things anywhere on WCG.
I wouldnt be surprised if XS has the largest 'enthusiast' following of sossaman in the world & outside of corporations, more sossy systems too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
If you're planning on doing a group buy, I'm in. The shipping quote (canada) I get from EVERY site that has sossy motherboards is RIDICULOUS. It's 4x the price of the motherboard itself
They have 56 according to the site. Dave convinced them to find more a while back :p: They somehow came up with 69 or something and have sold a few since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
I am tempted to get another.
I'm tempted to get another 2 ... can't afford it ... but I'm tempted!
alright now that the boards are back in stock let's find the rest of the components in stock pleasey
edit: are these the right back plates?: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21884
well i might build one just to join the club while i'm waiting for the arima bulk buy to happen. the problem is i can't find any 2.0 cpus :(
I'd buy it from you if you want to let it go :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
Once some standoffs that I'm waiting on come in, I'll be able to get my second Sossaman system up and running. With the addition of a spare HD4850 and a SB Audigy2, I'm planning on repurposing my first Sossaman into a primary gaming/work system (that will crunch when not in use... which will be most of the time) and putting both SammyOne and SammyTwo into the same Stacker 832 case (there's a worklog title for 'ya: Two Sammys, One Case :rolleyes: ). May as well sell my current gaming system while it's still worth something... anyone happen to need a very quiet ~62lb. black Antec P180 system with an EP45-DS3R mobo, two HD4850's, an E8400, 4GB of G-Skill 1066, a Corsair HX620 PSU, and what was probably $400+ worth of water cooling gear and fans? ;)
@Petra, definitely a good idea to sell your current gaming system while its still wroth something. You can prob get 400-500 dollars for it.
Yes, that's all you need to mount the heatsinks. Watch out, though. Heatsinks aren't typical 771.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoota
http://oemxs.us/shopping/index.php?p...arget=products
It just seems like the most sensible thing to do... I mean, with that spare HD4850 I pulled from the media PC and that sound card, the Sossaman system seems to do everything that I'd want it to and play everything that I'd usually play without issue. It really made me wonder why I'd want to hang onto this heat-belching, power-chugging system... sure, it is faster but I don't run at resolutions higher than 1280x1024 and the games I play aren't that rough on hardware.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bail_w
I was going to make and post some schematics for those sinks before I assembled mine so anyone with a decent mill could get their own machines up, as well as be able to modify other sinks to fit (these are a little ... "different") ... but I forgot. :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by artemm
I bet you could use almost and bolt-thru heatsink that'll fit LGA 771 just fine. Those ABBHEATSINKS are just right, though. Low-profile and cheap. This chip doesn't need lots of cooling at all. Not worth it, though, when you're looking at shipping to Australia, that's for sure... :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
Got a couple boards on the way. Were is the cheep place for SL8WT's and some ramz?
Keep an eye on ebay. And you know what, I think there might be some memory at work... maybe. Not sure. Will have to check, won't have a chance tomorrow but will check on Monday.
Now here's a guy that sees the potential I have been trying to explain for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petra
Yea, sammy is a nicecheap cruncher, yea it runs cool, yea,yeaand yea again BUT it also makes for one hell of an all round machine for daily use.
Kick in a decent vid card and wow,what a surprise and something else I found out: Drop in a fast drive like a raptor and OMG the increases you see.
Mine just crunches and runs WCG but I would have no issues using it as a daily driver at all.
In fact this summer I may do just that and be the only guy on the planet that owns a SR2 rig that uses a sammy for his daily machine..:rofl:
It's not just the bolt spacing in this case.Quote:
Originally Posted by artemm
There's a section that's proud of the rest of the surface. It's this elevated section (shown in my l33t schematic below :ROTF: ) that's "a bit different" and the main complication. The CPU die sits right in the middle of that raised section.
Attachment 104542
That would be awesome :up: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
That step is about 3mm (just checked one of my yet-to-be-installed heatsinks).Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
That would be awesome Sparky!! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
ghetto diagrams ftw!Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, but a bolt-through solution won't need the step. For example, my Danger Den TDXs that I installed on Dave's Harpers have threaded rods running from the lian-li backplate, up through the mobo, and the heatsink. The heatsink is clamped down by nuts on the threaded rods and usually springs are used to distribute the pressure.
Should have been more clear on that... but if you find a heatsink that mounts like that (not necessarily a water block,) you're golden! :up:
Here's another interesting idea:
Get a cheapo 771 stock heatsink and either (1) layer thermal pads on the chip until it makes contact (like jcool's been doing with his 5970 :D) or (2) get a 3mm thick copper square and either epoxy it onto the heatsink or use thermal paste b/w the heatsink and the square. I think it could work and you don't have to go out of your way to get the ABBs :)
As it happens I know a guy who's been a freelance/custom machinist for ... a hella long time. He's pretty much retired now but more than capable of milling the required step into an existing aluminium billet type heatsink. I had considered getting him to do some work for me, but not knowing the rest of the design parameters it was only going to end in frustration.
Here is an link for those who are lazy and don't want to order all the parts separately and then figure what to do for a case (not that you need a case).
http://cgi.ebay.com/Supermicro-2x-Du...item45f2ed699d
Wow, nice find. Tempting!Quote:
Originally Posted by hedge