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02-27-2009, 03:24 PM
fatguy1992

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

your trfc is way too high @ that speed you should be @28 not 56
and pl7 or pl6
even thwe delays are too high

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An

Those subtimings are awfully loose, but P45 isn't going to match the bandwidth of X38 either way.

Alright Thanks

I'll set the trfc to 28, but any lower PL and it won't post.

EDIT: I change that one down to 28, but it didn't help much? I tried lowering some more, but it froze.
02-27-2009, 04:39 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatguy1992

Alright Thanks

I'll set the trfc to 28, but any lower PL and it won't post.

EDIT: I change that one down to 28, but it didn't help much? I tried lowering some more, but it froze.

give her more nb juice
i run my d9 2.02v 5-5-5-15-4-28 @ 1200mhz 500fsb pl7
02-27-2009, 04:40 PM
fatguy1992

Alright I'll give that a go, also with the 5-5-5-15-4-28, what timing is the 4?

Thanks

EDIT: I got PL 7 now :)

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...erramspeed.jpg
02-27-2009, 05:00 PM
Ket

PL7 isn't that important. Its when you have to go above PL8 you want to crank NB voltage. You will find you can keep PL7 maybe to around 425-440FSB, but after that for any real degree of stability you have to move to PL8 I've found on any P45.
02-27-2009, 05:37 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

PL7 isn't that important. Its when you have to go above PL8 you want to crank NB voltage. You will find you can keep PL7 maybe to around 425-440FSB, but after that for any real degree of stability you have to move to PL8 I've found on any P45.

wrong
pl7 is important
i can do pl6.5 @ 515fsb @ 440 i can do pl5 on x38 and p35
pl8 is after 510fsb in my book
02-27-2009, 05:48 PM
Shiranui Gen-An

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

wrong
pl7 is important
i can do pl6.5 @ 515fsb @ 440 i can do pl5 on x38 and p35
pl8 is after 510fsb in my book

Ket is right about the P45 chipset, I don't think it can do PL7@500FSB. It's usually one PL level higher than P35/X38 for the same FSB.
02-27-2009, 06:03 PM
radaja

at 500fsb+ the UD3 boards with the A3 revision P45 can run two notches lower than the A2 when using 1:1 divider (pl8)instead of pl9.but on the other dividers Shiranui gen-an is right at 500 fsb using 5:6 its still pl8(at least thats as low as i could get) with the p45 chipset.
02-27-2009, 06:06 PM
CryptiK

On asus P45 boards you can only use PL7 on the 3:4 and lower divider, meaning at 500FSB your ram would be at 666 MHz. P45 is not P35, you can't say because your P35 does a certain PL at a given FSB/divider a P45 can.

On a UD3P you should be able to set PL7 on say 4:5 or maybe even 5:6 (they can run PL8 on 1:1) but it would take more vNB to do it, and the performance on the UD3P's from what Ive seen is about one PL higher than Asus boards, such that Asus PL8 = Giga PL9.
02-27-2009, 06:17 PM
radaja

im not saying that because my p35 can run a certain pl that my p45 can.did you read the previous post?i was just pointing out my observation concerning the p45 performance level settings.i never said anything about p35.
02-27-2009, 06:43 PM
Shiranui Gen-An

I think Cryptik was referring to zsamz's post, though I could be mistaken.
02-27-2009, 07:37 PM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

wrong
pl7 is important
i can do pl6.5 @ 515fsb @ 440 i can do pl5 on x38 and p35
pl8 is after 510fsb in my book

Others have already said it in different ways.. but I'll chime in too. How many P45s have you used? I've used 3. All exhibit the exact same behaviour when increasing FSB, PL7 = 440FSB tops, beyond that PL8.
02-27-2009, 08:14 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

Others have already said it in different ways.. but I'll chime in too. How many P45s have you used? I've used 3. All exhibit the exact same behaviour when increasing FSB, PL7 = 440FSB tops, beyond that PL8.

thats you
i seen pl7 higher than 470 on p45:yepp:
i only tinkered a p5q pro for 20 min for a freind got him to 450fsb pl7
i'll get my hands on a ut p45 soon odds are i will do 500fsb pl7;)
02-27-2009, 08:57 PM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

im not saying that because my p35 can run a certain pl that my p45 can.did you read the previous post?i was just pointing out my observation concerning the p45 performance level settings.i never said anything about p35.

I was referring to what zsamz said not you, I should have quoted him. I just meant that due to the inherent differences between the two chipsets, you cant set a P45 to the same FSB/PL settings as a P35, on any given divider, a P35 will be able to run a lower PL.

What you can set on a P45 depends on the bios and chipset revision, and how much vNB you are prepared to give it.

Its just a matter of playing around with your gear. I can run PL7 at 480 FSB / 640 MHz (3:4) without any trouble, and PL6 at 434FSB/651 MHz (2:3).

I could go higher, so if my board allowed stable ram speeds of 666MHz I'd guess it wouldn't have issues with PL7 at 500 FSB. The UT/DK P45's/UD3P's do clock ram better than my M2F so 500FSB PL7 / 666 MHz stable may well be a possibility on those boards. Someone try it :D

480 FSB / 640 MHz CL5, PL7, Clock Twister Moderate
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...DDR1280PL7.jpg

434 FSB / 651 MHz CL5, PL6, Clock Twister Stronger
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...B651MHzPL6.jpg
02-28-2009, 05:26 AM
Don_Dan

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

thats you
i seen pl7 higher than 470 on p45:yepp:
i only tinkered a p5q pro for 20 min for a freind got him to 450fsb pl7
i'll get my hands on a ut p45 soon odds are i will do 500fsb pl7;)

zsamz_ is right here! :yepp:

I didn't want to share this cause it needs some tweaking, but I thought you should see it for yourself:

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9923/...7crubaltra.jpg

I saw 10k across the board at FSB 480MHz but my CPU wasn't up to it at the volts I was comfortable with giving it and it crashed before I could take a screenshot. I will try to do this again next week with one of my new kits.
02-28-2009, 06:08 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

I was referring to what zsamz said not you, I should have quoted him. I just meant that due to the inherent differences between the two chipsets, you cant set a P45 to the same FSB/PL settings as a P35, on any given divider, a P35 will be able to run a lower PL.

What you can set on a P45 depends on the bios and chipset revision, and how much vNB you are prepared to give it.

Its just a matter of playing around with your gear. I can run PL7 at 480 FSB / 640 MHz (3:4) without any trouble, and PL6 at 434FSB/651 MHz (2:3).

I could go higher, so if my board allowed stable ram speeds of 666MHz I'd guess it wouldn't have issues with PL7 at 500 FSB. The UT/DK P45's/UD3P's do clock ram better than my M2F so 500FSB PL7 / 666 MHz stable may well be a possibility on those boards. Someone try it :D

the statement ket made that max pl7 was @ 440 was :down:
just cause a user cant do it dont mean someone else cant;)
took me just a few min to get to 450
i think bois not mature on p45 but 1 day it will be able to do it
so far the best board i seen is the ut p45 it has as good bandwith as the ut p35
02-28-2009, 07:47 AM
chad

This is the max Cl4 timings running PL8. This is a pair of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500. Im currently testing PL9 and already got them to 1100:)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3...tix1050444.jpg
02-28-2009, 07:56 AM
GeorgeStorm

I tihnk I know why I suddenly couldnt get 500FSB stable anymore, I was on PL6!
Im now gonna move it down to 7 and have another go at getting some nive numbers on my RAM
02-28-2009, 08:17 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeStorm

I tihnk I know why I suddenly couldnt get 500FSB stable anymore, I was on PL6!
Im now gonna move it down to 7 and have another go at getting some nive numbers on my RAM

nice
thats on yout biostar p45 ?
maybe more juice on nb
02-28-2009, 09:22 AM
Ket

I can get 10k+ across the board with PL8 @ 480FSB as well, so the point is still irrelivent. PL8 is better than PL7 on P45, same performance, higher FSB possibilities, less voltage.

and zsamz, theres plenty of ppl who posted before me to verify what I already said. You seem to completely lack the comprehension of not all hardware is created equal and some will be better than others, but on average P45 = PL8 for FSB over 440 or so.
02-28-2009, 09:26 AM
Don_Dan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

I can get 10k+ across the board with PL8 @ 480FSB as well, so the point is still irrelivent. PL8 is better than PL7 on P45, same performance, higher FSB possibilities, less voltage.

With CL4? please show me! :D

I know that bandwidth would be a lot better if I used a bigger divider.
02-28-2009, 09:50 AM
tool_462

Just a fun run for a "2Ghz Pi Challenge" contest at another forum. I know subtimings could be tweaked quite a bit, but this was just a quick comparison between 3-2-2-1 and 4-4-4-12 @ 1000mhz :lol:

Edit: durr...forgot to say this was with a 1GB kit of Buffalo Firestix D9GKX confirmed :D

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...2ghz-22406.png
02-28-2009, 09:57 AM
GeorgeStorm

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zsamz_
Yeah, with my Biostar, (its the only board, and the only set of RAM I have, :P)
I am now running at PL7 CAS5 at 1000mhz,
Heres an everest, (with all the programs running in the background and playing music.......
(attached)

Any tips to improve it?
Im a complete novice when it comes to memory overclocking, (or overclocking at all for that matter)
But memory overclocking is really cool, I would love to get to know how to do it WELL,
George
02-28-2009, 09:58 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

I can get 10k+ across the board with PL8 @ 480FSB as well, so the point is still irrelivent. PL8 is better than PL7 on P45, same performance, higher FSB possibilities, less voltage.

and zsamz, theres plenty of ppl who posted before me to verify what I already said. You seem to completely lack the comprehension of not all hardware is created equal and some will be better than others, but on average P45 = PL8 for FSB over 440 or so.

like i said its user related
just cause u cant do 440+ pl7 dont mean others cant
and again you wrong there is a difference pl7 to pl8 in bandwidth:rofl:

george:you need to see how high you can clock your ram try 2.1v
02-28-2009, 10:20 AM
GeorgeStorm

Now now, no need to argue, you both have your respective views, and both of you can get high bandwidth numbers, so instead of argueing, teach me how to!
I just upped the FSB to 420, and gained atleast 100 on copy read and write,
Would it be better to run it as it is, or at 480 FSb and 960mhz RAM?
Although, im trying to not have too high and multi, so I actually use the speedstep tech, might aswell save power when its not being used

Thanks
02-28-2009, 10:54 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeStorm

Now now, no need to argue, you both have your respective views, and both of you can get high bandwidth numbers, so instead of argueing, teach me how to!
I just upped the FSB to 420, and gained atleast 100 on copy read and write,
Would it be better to run it as it is, or at 480 FSb and 960mhz RAM?
Although, im trying to not have too high and multi, so I actually use the speedstep tech, might aswell save power when its not being used

Thanks

some people just cant say when they wrong:rofl:

get as high fsb as you can
put a fan on nb go @ least 1.4 to help ram
02-28-2009, 11:14 PM
fatguy1992

Just wondering, can anyone here get 800MHz 3-3-3-9 @ 2.3v?
03-01-2009, 12:01 AM
tool_462

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatguy1992

Just wondering, can anyone here get 800MHz 3-3-3-9 @ 2.3v?

My Firestix do 3-3-3-9 at 800 with less voltage than that, I'll see what they can go up to at 3-3-3-9 with 2.3v when I get another board, soon.
03-01-2009, 12:05 AM
fatguy1992

Mine didn't even post at those volts :(

I think its my mobo, since I have 3 D9GMH kits, all of which can't do Cas 3 and have a hard time doing Cas 4.
03-01-2009, 12:40 AM
Mafio

ep45 extreme bios f8
cellshock pc8000 gkx @1320 2.3volt :yepp:
fsb 550
pl 8

vnb 1.45/1.5

just for fun, relaxed subtimings :yepp:

http://forum.hwproject.net/imagehost...96f31c1917.jpg

monday i will try other bench, now my mobo is in RMA (bios suck i suppose... :shakes: )
03-01-2009, 01:09 AM
Pekalion

Hi people! I'm having a really great problem. One of my Crucial Ballistix .16FD5 died, so I'm running right now only 1Gb of it.

I was hoping if you can tell me a really nice and capable of Oc 2x2GB mems kits so I can continue doing my thinks and also Oc them.

Returning with the dead CB, what should I do? Send it to the RMA? Is a really pity but, I dont know if they are going to give me another .16FD5... I live in Argentina, so that is the big problem... huge taxes only for a memory :P... So, do you think that they can replace my dead memory with another equal?

Thanks guys! Sorry if I been abscent and havent participate a lot here, job and university is taking my life away xD
03-01-2009, 02:37 AM
whe3ls

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatguy1992

Just wondering, can anyone here get 800MHz 3-3-3-9 @ 2.3v?

my old tracers did 3 3 3 8 @ 2.3 and then did 650@ 2.4 i think. i should have never sold them
03-01-2009, 02:51 AM
WaterFlex

Mafio
Nice work mate :up:
03-01-2009, 04:00 AM
[XC] Oj101

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatguy1992

Just wondering, can anyone here get 800MHz 3-3-3-9 @ 2.3v?

My Team Extremes do 460MHz 3-3-3-9 at 2.49v :)
03-01-2009, 04:06 AM
Mafio

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaterFlex

Mafio
Nice work mate :up:

thx :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oj101

My Team Extremes do 460MHz 3-3-3-9 at 2.49v :)

ep45 extreme
cellshock pc8000 gkx @960mhz cas3 2.55volt

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...s32.56volt.jpg
03-01-2009, 05:11 AM
carpo93

nice work mafio:up:
03-01-2009, 05:16 AM
Mafio

Quote:

Originally Posted by carpo93

nice work mafio:up:

thx my friend :) :D
03-01-2009, 05:16 AM
cdawall

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatguy1992

Just wondering, can anyone here get 800MHz 3-3-3-9 @ 2.3v?

880 3-3-3-8 1T@3v on D9DCD

http://img.techpowerup.org/090301/Capture059.jpg
03-01-2009, 05:47 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatguy1992

Just wondering, can anyone here get 800MHz 3-3-3-9 @ 2.3v?

my teams do 830mhz 2.24v 4 sticks 3-3-3-8
03-01-2009, 07:12 AM
Ch@pS

My teams do 400 3-3-3-8 @ 2.28v with ease.
03-01-2009, 07:38 AM
OgaiB

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatguy1992

Just wondering, can anyone here get 800MHz 3-3-3-9 @ 2.3v?

It's very easy with TeamGroup Xtreem memory at 2.2v :)

http://s55.radikal.ru/i150/0903/d3/d94140217727.jpg

and 600Mhz, 5-5-5-8, 2.2V :)

http://i009.radikal.ru/0805/5c/6624a0201b8f.jpg
03-01-2009, 08:00 AM
[XC] Oj101

cdawall, what kind of RAM have you got (I know they're D9DCD Fat Bodies, but further details?) and would you consider selling? I need to add to my FB collection :D

And what can they do at 3-2-2-1?
03-01-2009, 08:14 AM
OgaiB

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oj101

cdawall, what kind of RAM have you got (I know they're D9DCD Fat Bodies, but further details?) and would you consider selling? I need to add to my FB collection :D

And what can they do at 3-2-2-1?

It's also easy with good ram, mobo and skilling :)
results of our team members:
400 MHz
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=399887
419.1 MHz
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=379899
437 MHz
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=401762
470 MHz
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=415734

and the best:
486.9 MHz
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=415746
03-01-2009, 08:35 AM
[XC] Oj101

What RAM was that? Voltages? 3-3-3 is too loose for me :D
03-01-2009, 09:39 AM
cdawall

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oj101

cdawall, what kind of RAM have you got (I know they're D9DCD Fat Bodies, but further details?) and would you consider selling? I need to add to my FB collection :D

And what can they do at 3-2-2-1?

what else you wanna know and i'll try when i get home
03-01-2009, 09:42 AM
[XC] Oj101

Make, model, price ( :D ) and what they can do at 3-2-2-1 @ whatever voltage please :D
03-01-2009, 11:29 AM
PizzaMan

I have two sets of Ballitstixs Tracers. One set love 3-3-3-9-1T. They will run that at 800Mhz with 2.2v. Can get them up to 850Mhz with 2.35v. They don't really like running 1200 and up. The other set doesn't like T1 but will run 3-3-3-9-T2 at 2.3v. Though, the second set will run 1200 5-5-5-15 with 2.15v. I think the first set are GMH and the second might be GKX. Just a guess, since all the IC say are "ballistix" on them. Anyone know how to read the -18F and -17F that's on the ICs, as to tell what IC they are?
03-01-2009, 11:58 AM
cdawall

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oj101

Make, model, price ( :D ) and what they can do at 3-2-2-1 @ whatever voltage please :D

micron OEM 512mb dual channel kit and ill think of something lol i have 3 sticks total
03-01-2009, 12:32 PM
[XC] Oj101

Quote:

Originally Posted by PizzaMan

I have two sets of Ballitstixs Tracers. One set love 3-3-3-9-1T. They will run that at 800Mhz with 2.2v. Can get them up to 850Mhz with 2.35v. They don't really like running 1200 and up. The other set doesn't like T1 but will run 3-3-3-9-T2 at 2.3v. Though, the second set will run 1200 5-5-5-15 with 2.15v. I think the first set are GMH and the second might be GKX. Just a guess, since all the IC say are "ballistix" on them. Anyone know how to read the -18F and -17F that's on the ICs, as to tell what IC they are?

This doesn't seem to help but maybe there's more info on the ICs CLICK

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

micron OEM 512mb dual channel kit and ill think of something lol i have 3 sticks total

2x256MB? Shame :D Let me know anyway, I want them more for the sentimental value.
03-01-2009, 01:02 PM
cdawall

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oj101

2x256MB? Shame :D Let me know anyway, I want them more for the sentimental value.

i found the same set on ebay for $28 buy it now
03-01-2009, 02:40 PM
EliTE22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatguy1992

Just wondering, can anyone here get 800MHz 3-3-3-9 @ 2.3v?

:D hey fatguy my two kits (Corsair dom. pc2-8500 ver1.2) do 3-3-3-8 at 2.4v at the same time:yepp: not 2.3v tho:(
03-01-2009, 02:58 PM
EliTE22

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here my new corsair doms pc2-8500 ver1.2 i have two 2x1GB kits same ram as last post:D
just playing around with all four sticks in:)
533 at 4-4-4-12 at 2.4v
03-01-2009, 03:23 PM
cdawall

4*1GB crucial+gskill D9GMH@2.2v

http://img.techpowerup.org/090203/Capture035.jpg

and i cant do 3-2-2-1 even with memset its an AMD K10 mem controller thing

http://img.techpowerup.org/090301/Capture062.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/090301/Capture060.jpg
03-01-2009, 04:13 PM
EliTE22

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1300MHz four sticks D9s :D 2.4vbios
03-01-2009, 04:34 PM
radaja

nice one elite22.are those the dominators in your sig?
03-01-2009, 05:48 PM
cdawall

Corsair Dominator 2GB DDR2 -TWIN2X2048-8500C5D just found a set of these the user never pushed them over 2.1v :D
03-01-2009, 05:55 PM
EliTE22

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

nice one elite22.are those the dominators in your sig?

no, it 2x kits of 2x1GB stick of corsair dom pc2-8500 ver1.2 D9xxx ics:D

the ram in sig is a 2x1GB corsair dom pc2-8500 ver4.1 with powerchip ics
i first sets of D9's :D very nice:yepp:
03-02-2009, 05:56 AM
Mafio

my cellshock pc8000 gkx @1200 5-5-5-15 2volt rocksolid & my ep45 extreme

http://forum.hwproject.net/imagehost...be54cbe6b9.jpg
03-02-2009, 03:40 PM
Shiranui Gen-An

I just got in a kit of 2x1GB Ballistix 8500 16FD3 from eBay today, testing at 600MHz 5-5-5-15 on the 5:6 divider with 2.00V BIOS set. One hour+ in Memtest 86+ 2.10 and no errors :up:
03-02-2009, 06:12 PM
Ket

Makes me hate my Cellshocks. They need 2.28v to be stable @ 1200MHz. Maybe this set is just one of the GKX kits that loves voltage.
03-02-2009, 07:03 PM
Shiranui Gen-An

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

Makes me hate my Cellshocks. They need 2.28v to be stable @ 1200MHz. Maybe this set is just one of the GKX kits that loves voltage.

You have the 8000 C5 kit right? My departed set had two pretty mismatched sticks, one could do 1200 with about 2.05V and the other needed like 2.45V :rolleyes:
03-02-2009, 07:05 PM
Ket

Nope I have the 8000C4 kit.
03-02-2009, 07:13 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An

I just got in a kit of 2x1GB Ballistix 8500 16FD3 from eBay today, testing at 600MHz 5-5-5-15 on the 5:6 divider with 2.00V BIOS set. One hour+ in Memtest 86+ 2.10 and no errors :up:

all my ballstix pc2-8500 need 2.02 real volts for 1220mhz 16fd3 16fd5
03-02-2009, 07:24 PM
Shiranui Gen-An

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

all my ballstix pc2-8500 need 2.02 real volts for 1220mhz 16fd3 16fd5

I have two other sets of Ballistix 8500, 16FD3 Tracers and 16FD5 regular, but those need 2.12V+.
03-03-2009, 07:40 AM
Mafio

my cellshock pc8000 pass 1 hour of memtest @ 1200mhz 5-5-5-15 with 1.92 volt.
i don't have any screen, but when my mobo return from RMA i will make some other test and post some screen. :)

@ket: biostar tpower i45 with cellshock pc8000 suck...
my cellshock on this mobo can't reach 1250mhz with very high voltage and timings...
on p5q they don't do better than 1050mhz with 2.4volt :rofl:
asus suck...

@all: someone of you know what chip is mounted on patriot viper pc9600 ELKN Nvidia edition???

thx
03-03-2009, 07:47 AM
Shiranui Gen-An

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

Nope I have the 8000C4 kit.

That's odd, those usually only need 2.00~2.10V for 600MHz C5. I'll glady take em off your hands :D I just recently missed a change to get a kit of Cellshock 1150s on eBay because I was too cheap to go for the Buy it Now price and got outbid :mad:
03-03-2009, 11:20 AM
fatguy1992

Could someone tell me why when I set 1T in the BIOS when it loads Windows it always says 2T? It did it on my P5E and it also does it on my UD3P. So WTF am I doing wrong?

Thanks
03-03-2009, 11:33 AM
Don_Dan

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatguy1992

Could someone tell me why when I set 1T in the BIOS when it loads Windows it always says 2T? It did it on my P5E and it also does it on my UD3P. So WTF am I doing wrong?

Thanks

I guess that the chipsets don't support it for DDR2, I have never seen it working on an Intel DDR2 board. The only boards I know of that can do 1T command rate are those based on NVidia's chipsets and ATI's RD600.
Oh and by the way, it's not even a real 1T command rate, it's correctly called 1N and 2N, I don't know the difference but that's what I was told. :(
03-03-2009, 11:41 AM
fatguy1992

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_Dan

I guess that the chipsets don't support it for DDR2, I have never seen it working on an Intel DDR2 board. The only boards I know of that can do 1T command rate are those based on NVidia's chipsets and ATI's RD600.
Oh and by the way, it's not even a real 1T command rate, it's correctly called 1N and 2N, I don't know the difference but that's what I was told. :(

Thanks

I thought I was setting it wrong or something :rolleyes:

Anyway I wish manufactures wouldn't put settings into the BIOS what don't work, like that **** 3:5 diver on P45.
03-04-2009, 12:08 AM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

Makes me hate my Cellshocks. They need 2.28v to be stable @ 1200MHz. Maybe this set is just one of the GKX kits that loves voltage.

Strange they are usually good sticks. Perhaps try another board.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mafio

my cellshock pc8000 pass 1 hour of memtest @ 1200mhz 5-5-5-15 with 1.92 volt.
i don't have any screen, but when my mobo return from RMA i will make some other test and post some screen. :)

@ket: biostar tpower i45 with cellshock pc8000 suck...
my cellshock on this mobo can't reach 1250mhz with very high voltage and timings...
on p5q they don't do better than 1050mhz with 2.4volt :rofl:
asus suck...

@all: someone of you know what chip is mounted on patriot viper pc9600 ELKN Nvidia edition???

thx

When you set 1.92v BIOS what is the real voltage measured with a DMM? Asus boards don't all suck, my Cellshock kits all do DDR2-1200 @ 1.99v real (measured at slot with DMM) and they are 32M stable at DDR2-1302 @ 2.24v on the M2F and P5Q-Deluxe. P5Q-Pro is pretty low end, I wouldnt expect great things from it.

I still have to sort the sticks myself and make matched pairs.
03-04-2009, 01:27 AM
Mafio

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Strange they are usually good sticks. Perhaps try another board.

When you set 1.92v BIOS what is the real voltage measured with a DMM? Asus boards don't all suck, my Cellshock kits all do DDR2-1200 @ 1.99v real (measured at slot with DMM) and they are 32M stable at DDR2-1302 @ 2.24v on the M2F and P5Q-Deluxe. P5Q-Pro is pretty low end, I wouldnt expect great things from it.

I still have to sort the sticks myself and make matched pairs.

i've gigabyte ep45 extreme

the voltage set in the bios is the same as the real voltage

on my asus p5q cellshock pc8000 gkx and cellshock pc6400 gmh can't reach 1100mhz with any timings and voltage...maybe my mobo is broken...
03-04-2009, 01:30 AM
Dumo

With CellShock @ 2.3V...

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/4691/333g.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2699/3331v.jpg
03-04-2009, 04:56 AM
simone18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mafio

i've gigabyte ep45 extreme

the voltage set in the bios is the same as the real voltage

on my asus p5q cellshock pc8000 gkx and cellshock pc6400 gmh can't reach 1100mhz with any timings and voltage...maybe my mobo is broken...

nice to find you here mate ;)
maybe this evening i'll post my screen. obviously not about RS, just OC :D

your p5q really sucks, what are you waiting for throwing it from the window? :p:
03-04-2009, 05:45 AM
Mafio

Quote:

Originally Posted by simone18

nice to find you here mate ;)
maybe this evening i'll post my screen. obviously not about RS, just OC :D

your p5q really sucks, what are you waiting for throwing it from the window? :p:

:welcome:

not my p5q sucks...all asus sucks. :D

i have another idea for this p5q :D :ROTF:
03-04-2009, 05:50 AM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mafio

i've gigabyte ep45 extreme

the voltage set in the bios is the same as the real voltage

on my asus p5q cellshock pc8000 gkx and cellshock pc6400 gmh can't reach 1100mhz with any timings and voltage...maybe my mobo is broken...

So you've measured with a DMM? Eastytune6 isn't real voltage. There is definitely an issue with your board, but the vanilla P5Q's/P5Q-Pro's etc aren't great ram clockers.

P5Q-Deluxe is much better from what I've seen, but they are not as good at clocking ram as the EP45 or UD3P.

EDIT - what happened to your EP45?
03-04-2009, 06:07 AM
Mafio

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

SO you've measured with a DMM? Eastytune6 isn't real voltage. There is definitely an issue with your board, but the vanilla P5Q's/P5Q=Pro's etc aren't great ram clockers.

P5Q-Deluxe is much better from what I've seen, but they are not as good at clocking ram as the EP45 or UD3P.

yes, i have measured the real voltage with multimeter and that was the same as the voltage set in the bios. :)

edit: my ep45 is dead...main bios is corrupted and recovery procedure don't work...
03-04-2009, 06:33 AM
simone18

what a pity. probably the gigabyte p45 extreme is ht best p45 board imo.
still waiting for the board to come back...clock it to death man ;)
03-04-2009, 06:37 AM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mafio

yes, i have measured the real voltage with multimeter and that was the same as the voltage set in the bios. :)

edit: my ep45 is dead...main bios is corrupted and recovery procedure don't work...

Well thats very nice ram in that case. The only board i have used that has a real voltage = set voltage is my M2F. Nice to see gigabyte have the same thing I'm getting fed up with boards over/under shooting set voltages.

Pity it died, I hope your replacement goes well. Was the bios damaged in a flashing procedure or did it just die of its own accord?
03-04-2009, 06:40 AM
Mafio

Quote:

Originally Posted by simone18

what a pity. probably the gigabyte p45 extreme is ht best p45 board imo.
still waiting for the board to come back...clock it to death man ;)

i'm waiting for the express courier...
03-04-2009, 06:47 AM
Mafio

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Well thats very nice ram in that case. The only board i have used that has a real voltage = set voltage is my M2F. Nice to see gigabyte have the same thing I'm getting fed up with boards over/under shooting set voltages.

Pity it died, I hope your replacement goes well. Was the bios damaged in a flashing procedure or did it just die of its own accord?

i bought another one, the RMA procedure is too long... :D
the new mobo will arrive tomorrow

died before overclock...
03-04-2009, 07:45 AM
simone18

just a question: to reach high freq (doesn't mean cas latency, but obviously is cas5 or more) which of these is better?
kit pc9200/higher with gkx or pc8500/9200 with gmh?
03-04-2009, 07:53 AM
Mafio

Quote:

Originally Posted by simone18

just a question: to reach high freq (doesn't mean cas latency, but obviously is cas5 or more) which of these is better?
kit pc9200/higher with gkx or pc8500/9200 with gmh?

if i remember correctly the highest frequency with ddr2 is reached with teamgroup pc10400 (gkx)
03-04-2009, 08:09 AM
simone18

dunno why, but i've no so much feeling with gkx...maybe the new ud3r could help...
03-04-2009, 08:22 AM
Mafio

Quote:

Originally Posted by simone18

dunno why, but i've no so much feeling with gkx...maybe the new ud3r could help...

but i've good feeling with all ram :D
03-04-2009, 08:27 AM
simone18

it's not you, it's your board :P
03-04-2009, 08:30 AM
Mafio

Quote:

Originally Posted by simone18

it's not you, it's your board :P

your ud3r probably is better than my extreme :up:
03-04-2009, 08:36 AM
simone18

at high freq i think it all depends on how good are ram instead of board :)
03-04-2009, 11:20 AM
Ch@pS

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1875/10433.jpg

Managed this with my Team Xtreem D9GMH, any suggestions to get them over 11k read? Its what I'm aiming for.
03-04-2009, 11:51 AM
Mafio

set cas5 and increase the fsb :yepp:

edit: 1300 cas4 with what vdim???
03-04-2009, 12:22 PM
[XC] Oj101

3 char
03-04-2009, 12:34 PM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mafio

set cas5 and increase the fsb :yepp:

edit: 1300 cas4 with what vdim???

I agree with you...those ram promise a lot :)
03-04-2009, 12:57 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch@pS

Managed this with my Team Xtreem D9GMH, any suggestions to get them over 11k read? Its what I'm aiming for.

i need high fsb for 11k
i can do it around 508fsb you will need around 520-530 on p45
03-04-2009, 01:20 PM
simone18

Quote:

any suggestions to get them over 11k read?

which is your kit? pc10400? on which board? let me know i'm really curious.
to reach and overcome 11k read you have to increase fsb. at least 550+ ;)
i've done 11k with dfi p35 ut and ram 1200 cas4 with fsb 600 :D
03-04-2009, 01:27 PM
[XC] Oj101

PC6400C4/P5Q-Dlx AFAIK
03-04-2009, 01:31 PM
simone18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oj101

PC6400C4/P5Q-Dlx AFAIK

are you talking about ch@ps ram? :para:
03-04-2009, 02:16 PM
simone18

@chaps: 11K+ :D, cellshock pc8000 cas4
http://forum.hwproject.net/imagehost...aeaf8ab096.jpg
03-04-2009, 06:31 PM
Shiranui Gen-An

Seems I scored again, testing my new Patriot 8500 5-5-5-9 D9GKX kit and it seems to only need 2.08V or so for 600MHz C5.
03-04-2009, 10:05 PM
Ch@pS

OJ0 was Right, Team Xtreem PC2-6400C4 on a P5Q Deluxe.

This set hates cas 5, cant even get 1300 5-5-5-5, but can do 1300 4-4-4-3 @ 2.66v.

Quote:

@chaps: 11K+ , cellshock pc8000 cas4

On a DFI P35. ;) Still, nice result.

Quote:

i need high fsb for 11k
i can do it around 508fsb you will need around 520-530 on p45

If i use higher FSB my bandwidth decreases, can only run PL9 at 550+. Will test over 500 PL8 later today and see where that takes me. :)
Anyone know if theres a bandwidth record for P45 chipsets?
03-04-2009, 10:10 PM
zsamz_

on dfi ut p35 i only need 505fsb to hit 11k;)
03-04-2009, 10:18 PM
[XC] Oj101

I have the exact same issue with my TXs. I've suicided 600MHz C3 but can't do 668MHz C5. These sticks are rated at C4 and that seems to be where they're happiest.
03-04-2009, 10:34 PM
Ch@pS

Funny enough, my sticks used to be able to do 1333 C5 when Goddy had them, @ 2.44v though. :(

Maybe its just the P5Q Deluxe i have that doesn't like my Rams.

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