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10-02-2008, 06:39 AM
Astratuner

please brong new lower volts using uber low latency, high speed ram please :D
10-02-2008, 09:08 AM
Drwho?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

I haven't killed any of those E8500's and E8600's that I'm running debunking the High Vtt / Vpll / Vcore Wolfdale/Yorkfield ( 45nm ) myth, I haven't killed any DDR3 ram in ages... I plan keeping it like that, and I'm quite sure Nehalem agrees with me :p:

please don't kill our babies! :p:
10-02-2008, 10:01 AM
Astratuner

just find out that there are since yesterday and today reviews out of the new intel core i7 940 cpu!

Google it ftw!:up:
10-02-2008, 10:45 AM
BenchZowner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

please don't kill our babies! :p:

I hope they won't die :D
That's what I'm counting on ;)
10-02-2008, 11:06 AM
Vozer

Xtreview.com said that Turbo Mode will only be available with Core i7 Extreme Edition. Mr Drwho?, is that really the truth? :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtreview.com

Recently we reported that Intel will remove the planned limitation for low-end Bloomfield models overclock (memory and QPI bus). Those desiring to obtain the complete overclock possibility had to acquire the processor Core i7 Extreme 965 (3.2 GHz), which not only possess the high QPI frequency (6.4 GT/s against 4.8 GT/s in other models), but also come with unlocked multiplier.

However, as reports associate, the support of Turbo-regime will be available only for Core i7 Extreme 965 processors, which will obtain the unlocked multiplier.

Now all Bloomfield can overclock the memory and QPI bus. The thickness of memory frequency ratio can vary from 2x to 32x, and QPI bus- from 4x to 64x. The processors Core i7 920 (2.66 GHz) and Core i7 940 (2.93 GHz) come with the locked multiplier, which determines the core clock frequency. Accordingly, Intel Dynamic Speed Technology will not be supported.
10-02-2008, 11:27 AM
Shintai

Turbomode is on all higher i7 parts. Xtreview doesnt exactly look like a good site either for new :p:

Seems to be some homegrown speculation news coupled with the multiplier lock.
10-02-2008, 12:46 PM
XS Janus

Has this test been posted yet?
http://uneit.com/2008/09/24/intel-co...-in-real-test/
10-02-2008, 01:10 PM
informal

Yes it was.It's basically a pconline.com review that the site you linked ripped off(they didn't post a link to the original review which is very lame)
10-02-2008, 01:16 PM
pajaa

@Shintai
define "higher". ;)
10-02-2008, 02:15 PM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by pajaa

@Shintai
define "higher". ;)

Anything above "celeron" class. That means most of the Lynnfield, all bloomfield, all servers and some of the auburndales.
10-02-2008, 02:40 PM
Drwho?

All Core i7 have Turbo, but only the extreme edition has unlocked Turbo, it is exactly like Core 2.
God, I wish the press stop speculating, or at least ask PR before they write something.
10-02-2008, 02:42 PM
xVeinx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

God, I wish the press stop speculating, or at least ask PR before they write something.

We do too, trust me. Thanks for putting straight what you can prior to release :).
10-02-2008, 03:35 PM
AuDioFreaK39

@ anyone with a Nehalem ES chip:

what kind of performance would I be looking at with three 2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 1333MHz (6-6-6-20) modules? I've had Tracers for a long time and I'm not willing to give them up just yet.
10-02-2008, 03:53 PM
xVeinx

See, that is a great question. Memory performance has been suffering under the ES chips/boards (from the stuff I've seen), so it would be interesting to see if there are large gains in the faster memory, or if there is a memory speed beyond which things plateau. On the other hand, having some solid state drives, etc. might up the possibilities as well. It would be nice to see a coherent look at just what the system bus speeds/memory system promises.
10-02-2008, 04:08 PM
Zytek_Fan

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuDioFreaK39

@ anyone with a Nehalem ES chip:

what kind of performance would I be looking at with three 2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 1333MHz (6-6-6-20) modules? I've had Tracers for a long time and I'm not willing to give them up just yet.

Given the past performance of Ballistix Tracers, there should be a lot of overclocking headroom :up:
10-02-2008, 07:02 PM
Drwho?

I keep saying that you will be better to look for modules with 1.5V to start with ... people really concidere this, some hight voltage modules will not start at all, so, you will not have the opportunity to set their voltage in the bios.
I am talking about over 1.8Volts. ( to protect your CPU , the default setting will not allow more than this, and many modules refuse to under volt/clock)
do you understand why?
10-02-2008, 07:33 PM
AuDioFreaK39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

I keep saying that you will be better to look for modules with 1.5V to start with ... people really concidere this, some hight voltage modules will not start at all, so, you will not have the opportunity to set their voltage in the bios.
I am talking about over 1.8Volts. ( to protect your CPU , the default setting will not allow more than this, and many modules refuse to under volt/clock)
do you understand why?

no I don't understand why. could you explain?

also, how will higher voltage memory (1.8v+) hurt the CPU if the memory multiplier is unlocked / independent from the CPU?
10-02-2008, 07:40 PM
T_Flight

I read you 5x5 DrWho. I'll be going with 1.55 or lower. We can always clock up, but if you get stuck where you can't clock down you are screwed if the thing won't boot. If it came to that, I'd rather have slightly lower clocks, than no clocks at all. This thing is already a Bandwidth monster anyway so I don't see what the 1.55 sticks would hurt at all.

SSD's just aren't mature enough yet, and I'm not quite ready to take the plunge on them yet. Maybe in a couple years when the capacity gets up over 150GB and the price gets to 1 dollar per GB or better. Sequential speeds also need a boost. For now I'm very happy with the WD Velociraptor at 150Gb for my OS and games. I have a RADI array with dual mirrored 160's, and a fairly fast 16MB cache 2500KS drive that is SATA II for storage and video.

On the memory "Guess why"? Compatibility I'd say. At least I assume that since they've came up with the new JEDEC standard. I'm not gonna risk compatibility or the CPU or the controller. I'll run what is reccomended...whatever it takes.
10-02-2008, 07:45 PM
JumpingJack

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuDioFreaK39

no I don't understand why. could you explain?

also, how will higher voltage memory (1.8v+) hurt the CPU if the memory multiplier is unlocked / independent from the CPU?

I will venture a guess ...

http://www.sematech.org/meetings/arc...ng_HiKGate.pdf (page 32) .... it may be the high-k materials suffer from higher rates of degradation at higher voltages overall, and hence one may want to limit the max allowable voltage on the IMC in order ensure the 3 yr warrantee.

EDIT: FYI ... multipliers (actually memory dividers) and voltages are not synonymous.
10-02-2008, 07:55 PM
Revv23

It's because high memory voltage will fry the memory controllers on these CPU's.

DrWho? has already said it many times.
10-02-2008, 08:01 PM
Movieman

If this will do 4000mhz 24/7 @100% load with good air or water cooling it's a winner in my book. I know some of you want much higher speeds for benching,etc but there just may be the reality that for that kind of use the yorkies or wolfdales may be the better choice.
I mean take a look at what people are doing with the E8600 E0's..
6500mhz and SP1m times under 7 seconds..
I don't think this one is going to be equal in those areas but will rule in others.
That's just what I think, not what I know..
10-02-2008, 11:05 PM
AuDioFreaK39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revv23

It's because high memory voltage will fry the memory controllers on these CPU's.

DrWho? has already said it many times.

ah, right right, because of the IMC. gotcha. ;)

by the way, I may have figured out the official Bloomfield release date according to the following information:

SF3D says the NDA will be lifted November 13. He has many pictures of the Foxconn motherboard.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...14#post3328214

And here's the new GIGABYTE X58 rev 0.2 board that hicookie posted:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...t=EX58-Extreme

This seems to be on the same track as what the Aussie's say:
http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...705932&page=21

and

X58 motherboards already for sale

Goes exactly in line with what Fudo told me as well:

Nehalem release date - 99.99% accurate:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5...mlaunchem7.png

If the QX9650 launched on a Monday, November 12, 2007, then it looks like we may have our release date guys!

Monday, November 17, 2008

am I rite? :D
10-02-2008, 11:36 PM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

All Core i7 have Turbo, but only the extreme edition has unlocked Turbo, it is exactly like Core 2.
God, I wish the press stop speculating, or at least ask PR before they write something.

Ok, so Core i7 920 (2,66 GHz) will have default multiplier 20x but with Turbo Mode it can raise two speed bins to -> 22x 133 MHz = 2,93 GHz

Core i7 940 (2,93 GHz) will have default multiplier 22x but with Turbo Mode it can raise two speed bins to 24x 133 MHz = 3,2 GHz.

Core i7 Extreme Edition 965 (3,2 GHz) will have unlocked Turbo -> 2 or more speed bins = 3,466 GHz or more.

:)
10-02-2008, 11:41 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Ok, so Core i7 920 (2,66 GHz) will have default multiplier 20x but with Turbo Mode it can raise two speed bins to -> 22x 133 MHz = 2,93 GHz

Core i7 940 (2,93 GHz) will have default multiplier 22x but with Turbo Mode it can raise two speed bins to 24x 133 MHz = 3,2 GHz.

Core i7 Extreme Edition 965 (3,2 GHz) will have unlocked Turbo -> 2 or more speed bins = 3,466 GHz or much more.

:)

fixed..:rofl:
10-03-2008, 05:47 AM
David_L6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

If this will do 4000mhz 24/7 @100% load with good air or water cooling it's a winner in my book. I know some of you want much higher speeds for benching,

All I want from one of them is 40,000 ppd crunching WCG. :eek: ;)
10-03-2008, 05:49 AM
Chri$ch

Intel Core i7-Extreme 965 + Intel Smackover DX58SO

Quote:

http://www.abload.de/img/079i7.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/0109g.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/08j8s.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/04cqv.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/03dd8.jpg

(Source: coolaler.com)

More pics and screens @ coolaler.com
10-03-2008, 05:55 AM
Shintai

Nice to see the BIOS screens :)
10-03-2008, 06:07 AM
Astratuner

yeah now only hope that there will be memory to put in the slots!
10-03-2008, 06:09 AM
Hornet331

SPI rocks 12,750s with only 3.2ghz, old kentsfield needed 4ghz for that. :D

and btw, seems coolaler just showed 19gb/s memory read with ddr3-1600 cl7. :eek:
10-03-2008, 06:54 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astratuner

you aren't joking?

why the f*** they label the damn thing with don't go over 1.65V :rofl:

the same reason they lable cpus with 1,362V. :p:
10-03-2008, 06:58 AM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

This situation we knows from Phenoms and Athlons 64 ... i remebers similar tales about deadly voltages of ICM in AMD CPUs and how many CPUs was really killed by this? One, two maybe ...?
...

Don't want to argue with your post, high volts on mem is good for me... just want to say I lost two of my four 939 A64's due to high ram voltage...

So for me thats 50%.

Certainly this maybe didnt happen often because not many people clocked thier ram with low volts on cpu but it did happen. Luckily the cure was just driving insane vcore into the CPU. :p:
10-03-2008, 07:40 AM
Drwho?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

Intel Core i7-Extreme 965 + Intel Smackover DX58SO

(Source: coolaler.com)

More pics and screens @ coolaler.com

I know one that will not get anymore press kit.

Francois
10-03-2008, 07:48 AM
NeedMoMegaHurtZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

I know one that will not get anymore press kit.

Francois

OUCH. Blacklisted!

Drwho? can you comment on this rumor?

" Intel working on Nehalem Skulltrail "

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=9769&Itemid=1
10-03-2008, 07:59 AM
Monstru

Press kit....some would kill for one of those http://forum.crazypc.ro/images/smilies/drool.gif
10-03-2008, 08:04 AM
Drwho?

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeedMoMegaHurtZ

OUCH. Blacklisted!

Drwho? can you comment on this rumor?

" Intel working on Nehalem Skulltrail "

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=9769&Itemid=1

This is corporate secret, you know by now that you can't ask me this.:yepp:
10-03-2008, 08:07 AM
STaRGaZeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

I know one that will not get anymore press kit.

Francois

Coolaler already showed early Conroe and Penryn benches, it's well known that he always get those "press kits" and does stuff with them before the NDA lift date. How comes that you say this? It's perfectly logical and understandable, but why now and not before?
10-03-2008, 08:10 AM
Drwho?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revv23

Don't want to argue with your post, high volts on mem is good for me... just want to say I lost two of my four 939 A64's due to high ram voltage...

So for me thats 50%.

Certainly this maybe didnt happen often because not many people clocked thier ram with low volts on cpu but it did happen. Luckily the cure was just driving insane vcore into the CPU. :p:

Yeap, that sound like your cure respect physics laws :rofl:
If you think about it before you do it, there is no problem ... :shrug:
10-03-2008, 08:22 AM
T_M

Hands up who has burned their NB from vDIMM...
10-03-2008, 01:27 PM
XS Janus

Nooo!
Don't deny Coolaler of his goodies! We need him to ease our pain, dude!
Noo!!
10-03-2008, 02:28 PM
Jacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by XS Janus

Nooo!
Don't deny Coolaler of his goodies! We need him to ease our pain, dude!
Noo!!

I think he will get them either way, or maybe it's just how I imagine Taiwan, the wild wild west of semi land where ES chips grow on trees?...
10-03-2008, 02:43 PM
T_Flight

After seeing those BIOS Screens on an Intel Reference Board, I hate to think about the kinds of options we are gonna have on Enthusiast Boards! :)

WoooHooo! This is gonna be sooooo much fun! :yepp::clap::D:up:
10-03-2008, 03:18 PM
Drwho?

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_Flight

After seeing those BIOS Screens on an Intel Reference Board, I hate to think about the kinds of options we are gonna have on Enthusiast Boards! :)

WoooHooo! This is gonna be sooooo much fun! :yepp::clap::D:up:

Yes, it is going to be awesome, just give time to every body to get their own opinion and so on. It is going to be a nice firework, just don t start it when it is day light.

If you get little bits of information, piece per piece, you will not be as Wowed as if you get the all package in one shoot. This is what we try to do: A Technology party time!
You all have to agree that when I showed Conroe by surprise at IDF with my buddies, you all had some serious fun, debate and digging online, excitement was awesome, Give us a change to wow you guys again, play the game with us, hold your information to your NDAs.

Thanks for understanding.

Francois
10-03-2008, 03:42 PM
T_Flight

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

Yes, it is going to be awesome, just give time to every body to get their own opinion and so on. It is going to be a nice firework, just don t start it when it is day light.

If you get little bits of information, piece per piece, you will not be as Wowed as if you get the all package in one shoot. This is what we try to do: A Technology party time!
You all have to agree that when I showed Conroe by surprise at IDF with my buddies, you all had some serious fun, debate and digging online, excitement was awesome, Give us a change to wow you guys again, play the game with us, hold your information to your NDAs.

Thanks for understanding.

Francois

I understand the kinds of problems early release can cause. I will definitely be giving all those involved in this project a fair and equal chance before basing anything concrete on the technology. I know you guys are still working with things, and that's probably one of the reasons you don't want info out there until things are finalized.

I just take these things as a peek of what might be, not what is final.

I hope Intel doesn't take any action though. I don't think those screens hurt anything really. It does raise excitement and is good for advertising. It hasn't spoiled any surprises for me, because I know that there are still things with the Enthusiasts boards we don't know. There always is. There are so many really nice boards out there, and I hope you guys got to work with those comapnies like MSI, Asus, and Gigabyte, and the others I've probably left out.

I'm kinda like a peeping tom right now. I'm getting a good look, but am not taking anything yet. :D
10-03-2008, 04:42 PM
Periander6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

If you get little bits of information, piece per piece, you will not be as Wowed as if you get the all package in one shoot.

Nonsense. A slow tease is much more exciting than revealing everything at once!

...and I'm not interested in anyone's package!
10-03-2008, 04:59 PM
JumpingJack

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_Flight

After seeing those BIOS Screens on an Intel Reference Board, I hate to think about the kinds of options we are gonna have on Enthusiast Boards! :)

WoooHooo! This is gonna be sooooo much fun! :yepp::clap::D:up:

It will be an interesting exercise ... people who like to dink with settings have all sorts of fun with Phenom, Nehalem will approach that level I suspect.
10-03-2008, 05:05 PM
Movieman

put's on mod hat:
Gentlemen;
We had this discussion before but evidently some have forgotten what was said.
Dr.Who? does us ALL a great service by coming here and telling us what he can and should be thanked for doing so.
I removed two posts today. The first one I read made me so mad I wanted to smash the guy right in the face over his stupidity and lack of tact.
The man if nothing else demands respect due to his position.
I'm not saying you can't disagree with him but I am saying that if I ever see someone mouth off to him as I saw today that person is gone from here forever.
I sit here, just as you,and have my unanswered questions but I also see in Dr.Who's speech that he would love to be able to say more but he can't at this point. That has to be respected.
I also see these "armchair generals" who profess to know more than the man who works with and tests these every day.
What absolute arrogance on your part!
I'll say this again: Keep it respectfull and pleasant and if you can't do that then stay the hell out of this thread or you'll see a side of me that I rarely show.
Thanks for reading!
10-03-2008, 10:12 PM
AuDioFreaK39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

put's on mod hat:
Gentlemen;
We had this discussion before but evidently some have forgotten what was said.
Dr.Who? does us ALL a great service by coming here and telling us what he can and should be thanked for doing so.
I removed two posts today. The first one I read made me so mad I wanted to smash the guy right in the face over his stupidity and lack of tact.
The man if nothing else demands respect due to his position.
I'm not saying you can't disagree with him but I am saying that if I ever see someone mouth off to him as I saw today that person is gone from here forever.
I sit here, just as you,and have my unanswered questions but I also see in Dr.Who's speech that he would love to be able to say more but he can't at this point. That has to be respected.
I also see these "armchair generals" who profess to know more than the man who works with and tests these every day.
What absolute arrogance on your part!
I'll say this again: Keep it respectfull and pleasant and if you can't do that then stay the hell out of this thread or you'll see a side of me that I rarely show.
Thanks for reading!

Amen! Each and every last word! :up:
10-04-2008, 02:52 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

put's on mod hat:
Gentlemen;
We had this discussion before but evidently some have forgotten what was said.
Dr.Who? does us ALL a great service by coming here and telling us what he can and should be thanked for doing so.
I removed two posts today. The first one I read made me so mad I wanted to smash the guy right in the face over his stupidity and lack of tact.
The man if nothing else demands respect due to his position.
I'm not saying you can't disagree with him but I am saying that if I ever see someone mouth off to him as I saw today that person is gone from here forever.
I sit here, just as you,and have my unanswered questions but I also see in Dr.Who's speech that he would love to be able to say more but he can't at this point. That has to be respected.
I also see these "armchair generals" who profess to know more than the man who works with and tests these every day.
What absolute arrogance on your part!
I'll say this again: Keep it respectfull and pleasant and if you can't do that then stay the hell out of this thread or you'll see a side of me that I rarely show.
Thanks for reading!

you missed a quote here ;)
10-04-2008, 03:03 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornet331

you missed a quote here;)

Fixed..Thank you.
10-04-2008, 03:09 AM
Seraphiel

Is Nehalem EX (Beckton) already done and working?

I remember having seen a wafer with these on it, but I can't find the picture anymore (it was in one of the threads with stuff from IDF).
10-04-2008, 08:28 AM
Jp7

Help

Hello guys, if someone have a Intel "Smackover" DX58SO or if there are Intel engineers please contact me.
Thanks
10-04-2008, 10:02 PM
AuDioFreaK39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jp7

Hello guys, if someone have a Intel "Smackover" DX58SO or if there are Intel engineers please contact me.
Thanks

lol...we all kind of want them to contact each of us. ;)

more BIOS screenies:

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/32.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/33.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/34.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/35.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/36.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/37.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/38.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/39.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/40.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/41.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/42.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/43.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/44.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/45.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/46.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/47.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/48.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/49.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/50.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/51.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/52.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/53.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/54.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/55.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/56.JPG

Coolaler.com - page 4

now someone needs to explain to me what over half of these settings even do..
10-04-2008, 11:46 PM
JCornell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

I have a question for you Dr. Who;
Will the Gainstown systems also have the ability with the 3200EE's to OC or will they be locked?

Gainestown 3.2GHz Rev.C0 ES was released :p:
10-04-2008, 11:50 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCornell

Gainestown 3.2GHz Rev.C0 ES was released :p:

You just are bound and determined to give me heart failure aren't you!:rofl:
10-04-2008, 11:57 PM
JCornell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

You just are bound and determined to give me heart failure aren't you!:rofl:

:rofl:
You don't know what it's feel when I saw 1 board with 4 sockets CPU's :shocked:
10-05-2008, 12:06 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCornell

:rofl:
You don't know what it's feel when I saw 1 board with 4 sockets CPU's :shocked:

Dunnington? I may get one of those to review but a dual Gainstown intrigues me more..
In my office is a quad socket system.. Not exactly current tech but in it's day this sold for $21,000.00
http://www.supermicro.com/products/s...0/SYS-8050.cfm
10-05-2008, 12:17 AM
Chri$ch

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuDioFreaK39

lol...we all kind of want them to contact each of us. ;)

more BIOS screenies:

Coolaler.com - page 4

now someone needs to explain to me what over half of these settings even do..

to late ;) :p:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1427
10-05-2008, 12:22 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

to late ;) :p:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1427

I had that feeling at first also but if you sit down and just do them one at a time it's pretty easy to understand..
The key is to make small moves and think about the effect before you do so.
Same game as always, just a few new names to understand.
10-05-2008, 12:30 AM
JCornell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Dunnington? I may get one of those to review but a dual Gainstown intrigues me more..
In my office is a quad socket system.. Not exactly current tech but in it's day this sold for $21,000.00
http://www.supermicro.com/products/s...0/SYS-8050.cfm

:rofl:
Yeap, not for common users ...
I can't test it too, not our product, just saw they tested QPI at our Lab.

Will review Gainestown new C0 when the time comes :D
10-05-2008, 12:32 AM
AuDioFreaK39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

to late ;) :p:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1427

I was actually basing these pics off your previous post. Just adding more screens is all. ;)
10-05-2008, 01:17 AM
Astratuner

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuDioFreaK39

lol...we all kind of want them to contact each of us. ;)

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/48.JPG

Coolaler.com - page 4

now someone needs to explain to me what over half of these settings even do..

I wonder which mem he's using lol

1.54V and those timings....:shrug:
10-05-2008, 01:20 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astratuner

I wonder which mem he's using lol

1.54V and those timings....:shrug:

My guess is the "nania" if I'm spelling that correctly..
10-05-2008, 01:58 AM
AuDioFreaK39

check out the 965 load temps at stock under prime:

vcore 1.176v
http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/11.gif
10-05-2008, 02:04 AM
Astratuner

Still wierd for me to see that we went from a 400FSB to a 133MHz bus again :confused:

And those MP are high :eek:
10-05-2008, 02:13 AM
Nedjo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astratuner

Still wierd for me to see that we went from a 400FSB to a 133MHz bus again :confused:

And those MP are high :eek:

those two things are not comparable! 133MHz i Host Clock Frequency - a clock from whom all the others are derived!

By using CPU milti 22 you get CPU frequency of 2.93 GHz, by using MEM multi 12, you get memory frequency of 1600 MHz... all those frequencies come from HCF's 133 MHz!
10-05-2008, 02:51 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuDioFreaK39

check out the 965 load temps at stock under prime:

vcore 1.176v

nothing sepcial, considering stcok cooler and a TJmax of 105°C, if it would have TJ 95 (°C) you would be at 52°C. :p:

I hope intel releases the TJ specifications of nehalem with the release. :yepp:
10-05-2008, 03:23 AM
Astratuner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedjo

those two things are not comparable! 133MHz i Host Clock Frequency - a clock from whom all the others are derived!

By using CPU milti 22 you get CPU frequency of 2.93 GHz, by using MEM multi 12, you get memory frequency of 1600 MHz... all those frequencies come from HCF's 133 MHz!

Ah yes i c now,

is this the first time they used a mem multi to ?
10-05-2008, 03:42 AM
mikeyakame

nup. fsb dram dividers are the same thing. but because the BCLK was so high with FSB you didn't exactly need high multipliers.
10-05-2008, 03:43 AM
JCornell

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuDioFreaK39

check out the 965 load temps at stock under prime:

vcore 1.176v
http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/11.gif

coolaler used old version CoreTemp ... The latest CoreTemp VID detection is already been disabled by the author ... Just like CPUz I think ...And like Hornet311 said it has different TJMax.

This is stock cooler too ... but just different from their so called "White Box" CPU Sample HSF :yepp:
Sorry, for CoreTemp plz see at right notification area @SS below
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g.../BLM_98GT2.jpg

...
10-05-2008, 03:49 AM
JCornell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

My guess is the "nania" if I'm spelling that correctly..

What's "nania" ? :p:
My guess is "G.Skill" ...
10-05-2008, 03:51 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCornell

What's "nania" ? :p:
My guess is "G.Skill" ...

I'm trying to remembert the name of the memory.
They were the first ones out with 1.5v FBDimms and I thought they were named in making 1.5v DDR3
10-05-2008, 03:56 AM
Astratuner

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCornell

coolaler used old version CoreTemp ... The latest CoreTemp VID detection is already been disabled by the author ... Just like CPUz I think ...And like Hornet311 said it has different TJMax.

This is stock cooler too ... but just different from their so called "White Box" CPU Sample HSF :yepp:
Sorry, for CoreTemp plz see at right notification area @SS below
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g.../BLM_98GT2.jpg

...

Still i see temp of 62° :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

I'm trying to remembert the name of the memory.
They were the first ones out with 1.5v FBDimms and I thought they were named in making 1.5v DDR3

Elpida maybe?

http://www.elpida.com/en/news/2008/08-12.html
10-05-2008, 04:01 AM
JCornell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astratuner

Still i see temp of 62° :confused:

Elpida maybe?

http://www.elpida.com/en/news/2008/08-12.html

:shocked: This temp is 100% full load ... coolaler's is no load ...

Actually, I'm not guessing what RAM he used, We all can see at the RIG platform, and from other SS CPUz verification showed G.Skill :ROTF:
10-05-2008, 04:06 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCornell

:shocked: This temp is 100% full load ... coolaler's is no load ...

Actually, I'm not guessing what RAM he used, We all can see at the RIG platform, and from other SS CPUz verification showed G.Skill :ROTF:

:doh:<-me..:rolleyes:
10-05-2008, 04:33 AM
BenchZowner

Dave ( Movieman ) was thinking of the ICs maker, Nanya Technology Corp.
10-05-2008, 04:35 AM
Vapor

At least Dave learned how to say 'her' name :lol:
10-05-2008, 04:39 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

Dave ( Movieman ) was thinking of the ICs maker, Nanya Technology Corp.

Bingo..Yes, and thanks..

Vapor; Be quiet you!:rofl:
10-05-2008, 12:55 PM
cryomonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuDioFreaK39

lol...we all kind of want them to contact each of us. ;)

more BIOS screenies:

<<EDIT>>

now someone needs to explain to me what over half of these settings even do..

Nice job on the screen shots !!
10-05-2008, 11:52 PM
WC Annihilus

New report says supposedly 52% improved 3D gaming performance o.o
http://en.expreview.com/2008/10/06/i...html#more-1008
10-06-2008, 12:18 AM
shiznit93

Quote:

Originally Posted by WC Annihilus

New report says supposedly 52% improved 3D gaming performance o.o
http://en.expreview.com/2008/10/06/i...html#more-1008

better not be using Lost Planet as the benchmark for this 52% "improvement".
10-06-2008, 12:51 AM
Solus Corvus

Quote:

Originally Posted by WC Annihilus

New report says supposedly 52% improved 3D gaming performance o.o
http://en.expreview.com/2008/10/06/i...html#more-1008

Yeah right. Maybe at 640x480.
10-06-2008, 01:12 AM
WC Annihilus

Well, I just noticed a review of the 940 posted on the TPU forums (forgive me if this has been posted already, bloody huge thread):
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-65...40-review.html

Looking at that, perhaps that number is from 3DMark Vantage
10-06-2008, 03:27 AM
informal

Yeah it seems it's 3dmark vantage cpu score...Which has like zero connections with real world games.

Anyhow,Core i7 is showing as pre-order on many sites,here in CA and here in UK.In Canadian shop 920 model is priced exactly as 2.83Ghz Core2Quad 45nm Q9550.

Mobos are available for pre-order too .They are not exactly cheap at the moment,as any new stuff isn't when it is about to launch.
10-06-2008, 03:33 AM
JCornell

FYI
Maybe some don't know Gainestown can run on X58S, but Bloomfield can't run on X58D :D

Gainestown on Bloomfield Platform.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...aines_X58S.jpg

...
10-06-2008, 04:03 AM
Jacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by WC Annihilus

Well, I just noticed a review of the 940 posted on the TPU forums (forgive me if this has been posted already, bloody huge thread):
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-65...40-review.html

Looking at that, perhaps that number is from 3DMark Vantage

This is old and copied from the Chinese. They've also misinterpreted TMPGenc numbers, where nehalem is actually slower.
10-06-2008, 09:19 AM
Epsilon84

http://en.expreview.com/2008/10/06/i...an-qx9770.html

Quote:

In a recent document sent to partners, Intel pointed out that when comparing Core i7-965 to a QX9770, we can get 52% more 3D gaming performance, 38% more rendering performance and 41% more movie editing and conversion performance.

50%+ gains in 3D gaming?! I seriously doubt it, I'd be happy if it turns out to be 10% faster in games considering the lack of heavily multi-threaded titles currently available.
10-06-2008, 09:47 AM
STaRGaZeR

Of course, 50%+ in that fvking 3DMark...
10-06-2008, 10:00 AM
Epsilon84

Quote:

Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR

Of course, 50%+ in that fvking 3DMark...

Haha, I heard its a great game. :rolleyes::ROTF:
10-06-2008, 10:03 AM
azza21

Be scared you Intel junkie's the Denab is coming.

I saw the pre sale of the i7's on overclockers yesturday. The extreme i7 was on sale for around £850, that is a complete joke. Intel has obviously reverted back to there old ways due to lack of pressure from other companies, yes amd it is your fault :D
10-06-2008, 10:11 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by azza21

Be scared you Intel junkie's the Denab is coming.

I saw the pre sale of the i7's on overclockers yesturday. The extreme i7 was on sale for around £850, that is a complete joke. Intel has obviously reverted back to there old ways due to lack of pressure from other companies, yes amd it is your fault :D

:ROTF:

what do you expect, its britain + oc.uk... its guaranteed to be overpriced (2times) :rofl:
10-06-2008, 10:14 AM
azza21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornet331

:ROTF:

what do you expect, its britain + oc.uk... its guaranteed to be overpriced (2times) :rofl:

Well yeah that 17.5% Vat doesn't help, as for overclockers the less i say about them the better.

Are the i7 extreme on pre sale in the USA yet? If so what price are they on sale at?
10-06-2008, 10:16 AM
Slovnaft

Quote:

Originally Posted by azza21

Well yeah that 17.5% Vat doesn't help, as for overclockers the less i say about them the better.

Are the i7 extreme on pre sale in the USA yet? If so what price are they on sale at?

They are on some no-name site in CA.

Wait for them to hit newegg for *real* prices...

What is it, 25 days?
10-06-2008, 10:20 AM
Hornet331

as always for a extreme edition -> 999US$
10-06-2008, 10:29 AM
azza21

Ok then newegg it is, so uh who wants to be my postage person...I will give 40 dollers. Slovnaft, Hornet331... :p
10-06-2008, 10:31 AM
STaRGaZeR

Mmm how about a i7-965 from the US? "Dirt cheap" with the current $-€ change :slobber:
10-06-2008, 10:31 AM
Slovnaft

Quote:

Originally Posted by azza21

Ok then newegg it is, so uh who wants to be my postage person...I will give 40 dollers. Slovnaft, Hornet331... :p

haha, sure if it comes to that I'll float you one cross the pond :D
low on crack money anyways.
10-06-2008, 10:57 AM
Jacky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epsilon84

Haha, I heard its a great game. :rolleyes::ROTF:

Hey, maybe games of the future will scale like vantage. :D
10-06-2008, 08:31 PM
AuDioFreaK39

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc...965_X58/52.JPG

why does Coolaler have mem voltage at 1.98v? :confused:
10-06-2008, 09:02 PM
karl_eller

Probably for similar reasons why a lot of us here at XS use way more than stock voltages (or way more than the VID, for that matter) on most of our CPUs: Because we can :p:

Eller
10-06-2008, 09:10 PM
xVeinx

I'd be the postage boy, but preferably to be paid in Euros :)

EDIT: I'm entirely kidding (about the Euros anyway).

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