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554 seems high enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristoferr
And seems it's not to easy to break the 500MHz barrier.
Maybe a motherboard with modifications or a DFI P35 will suit your needs :D
I would be so much happy if I could hit 554FSB with my E6750.
I did some improvement, but using AUTO settings I can pass 475FSB but only until 483FSB. It's strange, manually overclocking I can't get past 475, but with AUTO timings and AUTO voltages 483 is my current limit.
Of course, using 6.0x multiplier.
Your CPU can be your limit. And not exactly the motherboard.
OK. Thanx for answering. Im quite happy with my CPU. I got now also 4000mhz with 1,5V only. Already 2hour Prime95 stable, whitch is very good result i think :p: :D
Getting full moded P5K to put my CPU under Di and Ln2 also later.
You can also find the PCIe speed of a NV card by loading up the NV control panel, help menu, system info. It reports what bus it sees.
Hi Everyone,
I've been through DS3R hell the past month. Everytime I'd go into a game, my fps would be anywhere from 5-15.
I tried everything that you can think of and more, including an rma for the board, and nothing would work, yet on my 680i everything was fine.
Today I came across a post at evga http://evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=107776
who was having the same issue, different board and components except one, and that's the Antec Quattro 850. This psu worked just fine on my 680i.
Low and behold, Antec has stated it has a problem it knows about with not supplying enough power to 8800 series cards.
Slapped my TT 750 in, and problem solved.
Another issue that arose, double boots. I figured out what caused that. I use a spot cool that I always have had plugged into the psu, well, this time I plugged it into the board, double boot everytime. Plugged back into the 12v cable on the psu, double boots gone.
I hope this will help some of you from having to deal with the frustration I did.
Anyone have Rev 2 of the DS3R? I RMA'd my Rev 1 board after it started going loopy after 2 weeks and 'Egg replaced it with a Rev 2 board. This rev 2 board won't hold vDIMM though. My rev 1 board went 1.8v normal plus .1-.7 volts bumps in the bios. So I could get 2.4v with a .6v setting in the bios. With the rev 2 board, even if I max the bios to .7v, I only get 2.34v to the RAM, which would've given me 2.5v with the rev 1 board. This stinking rev 2 board is robbing .15-.20v from my RAM. It's not just a funky reading either, I can't OC my RAM on this board near as much as on rev 1.
I'm using the same RAM, Patriot Extreme PC2-6400LLK. The sticks have EPP ratings of 1000Mhz 5-5-5-15 @ 2.3v, and I was able to do 1110Mhz 5-4-4-10 @ 2.4v on Rev 1, but can't get anywhere near that now, not enough vDIMM.
Anyone else with Rev 2 board notice this? Heck the old Rev 1 would actually even over-deliver a bit, with like 2.23 on the .4v bios setting.
BTW, both boards are running F6.
What happened to your board that made you RMA it?
My guess is a cold solder. After having it a few weeks it would BSOD after running more than 8-10 hours, upon reboot it wouldn't POST at all. If I left it alone overnight, or for another 8-10 hours it would POST again and all would seem right. But then it would repeat, run for 8 hours, no post, rest for 8 hours, good to go, etc. Not that it has anything to do with my current issue of missing vDIMM on the rev 2 board.
for the p35-ds3r f4>f6
with f6 i couldn't even do 600mhz 5-5-5-15 2.2v
with f4 i am doing 625mhz 5-5-5-15 2.2v
edit:also tested vdroop
bios voltage set to 1.4250
idle 1.39
load 1.39
looks good to me :)
Hey me, I figured out the problem. The "performance enhance" option in the BIOS does things differently in F6 compared to F4. It is a lot less stable at "extreme" in F6, for me, at 400 MHz FSB. Setting it to "normal" equals a stable system at my normal volts for 3.2 GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by swaaye
^^why would you leave that stuff on in the first place?
Purchased the DS4 Rev 2.0 a couple weeks ago along with 4x1GB of Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 for my new Q6600 build. Just wanted to report my current settings are running fine, and I haven't had any issues.
Q6600 @ 400x8 w/ 1.325V (BIOS), cooled with Ninja Rev.B
DDR1000 (4:5) 5-5-5-15 T2 w/ 2.0V (BIOS)
Only have run into one issue. Loaded up to get a baseline score with 3DMark06 yesterday and was getting horrible framerates. Never let it finish a run, but was trying to check on stuff while it was running. Hit CTRL-ALT-DEL to start the task manager durning a run and found an error that was hiding. Says D3Derr-devicelost error. Anyhow, I'm not to big on benching, so I let it slide for now, but it will continue to bother me until I figure it out.
Two questions:
1. Whats the best BIOS version for the DS3R? I'm currently using F3 and I'm wondering if any of the later versions are worth updating to?
2. Has any one hit a 500FSB with the DS3R and a Q6600 on air? I'm trying to get it up there and I'm not having much luck.
Thanks.
Ok, I hate asking a question like this when I haven't thorougly searched for the answer, but I just can't see reading through 50 more pages of this thread, so here it goes:
I just installed the P35-DS3R and saved the new F6 (I think) BIOS; I can't seem to flash my BIOS! I went out and bought and installed a floppy drive, got it working, but it won't flash from that. What am I doing wrong?
I'd really rather flash from a flash drive, as I don't have room to keep the floppy drive installed, but why can't I make it work?
And what do I need to do to flash from a flash drive? It won't even recognize it.
I just use the @Bios windows flasher, works great!Quote:
Originally Posted by carmike692000
F6 is working well just dont select the "performance enhance" option setting for memory, it's not stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by mXpS
Thanks for the info, I may have to do it that way. However, I was warned not to do it that way. I'm not really sure why, though...Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
Will it help me reach a higher FSB at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
anyone try out the f4i bios for the p35c yet?
Quote:
Originally Posted by carmike692000
reading the threads gonna help you out
n @bios can flash from windows no problem
Is the DS4 Rev 2.0 a good board? sending back my ip35 pro for a full refund,Had dead lan ports :mad: Was hoping the DS4 would be a good choise with an E6750 paired up with some crucial 8500s.:shrug: Anyone??
I love mine, running my quad @ 3.2GHz nice and stable!:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bones
Because it reduces chipset-to-memory latency. I have it running stable set to "Turbo", but "Extreme" was not stable. Right now I'm seeing the lowest RAM latency in Everest that I've seen yet. F6 seems to give better memory latency than F4 did.Quote:
Originally Posted by hstuehmeyer2000
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/1...tswaayekm3.jpg
interesting, i did not know that, thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by swaaye
I've never trusted windows software for flashing ... probably because I never trusted Windows in the first place :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by carmike692000
Anyway, to flash from you flash drive, you can use Q-flash. You enter the BIOS and then press F9 I think (I might be wrong, just read the bottom information in the BIOS main menu: there is a key entry for Q-Flash).
Then in Q-flash, you have to select you flash drive letter. On my PC it shows my flash drive as the letter C:\.
It seems a bit weird the first time as I thought it would be the windows partition of my HD (what is actually not possible since it is on NTFS).
then you just select the bios file and let the utility do the work.
My system won't POST with "Turbo" or "Extreme" options, only "Standard".
And this happens with or without overclocking.
Currently using BIOS F6.
I'm going to test max stable memory frequency with F6 and using stock volts (2.2v)
If it's not satisfactory I'll try F5 or F4.
f4i workin niceon p35c
Hi! I just want to tell you that I bought the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme and I installed it without removing DQ6's backplate. It was no big deal. I just had to buy some nuts and washers to fit the screws. Then I cut four washers from a cardboard and put them under the metal washers. The mobo supports very well the cooler's weight, in fact the cooler is not as heavy as I expected. However, because I heard so many were worried about this aspect, I secured the cooler with a wire so there is no way it will fall. In couple of hours everything was in place and it was worth the effort. With a Scythe S-Flex SFF21E at 1200rpm, this thing keeps my OCed E6750 (3200GHz) around 26-30 degrees while idle and 49-55 under (really) heavy load. And what is incredible about this cooler is that after 2 hours of Orthos and another 2 or 3 programs running at the same time, I saw the temperature dropping(!) from 55 to 49 degrees then rising again slowly then dropping again. This is because of the liquid that flows through those pipes... What can I say... State of the art cooler! With the stock cooler the temperatures were constantly rising and the noise...
I have some new questions for you guys. As I already told tou, I keep my E6750 at 3.2GHz (400x8), the RAM is running at stock timings (4.4.4.12) and frequency (400MHz) and the FSB: DRAM ratio is now 1:1, PCI-E - 100MHz. Is it correct to say that the only part of my system wich is running overclocked is my CPU? I am new at overclocking and I just want to be sure that I didn't overlooked something. Also from these images... can anyone tell me if the voltages are right? And what those temperatures mean? I'm pretty sure that the first is the mobo's temperature. About the second one, I don't know. Temp3 is an error just like the next one. HDD temp is reported correctly. Core0 and Core1 - error, in fact the temps are higher by 15 degrees. Then the core temp at 44 degrees, I don't know what it is... I don't think it is the CPU because normally the cores should always have a higher temp than the case of the CPU.
Edit: Unfortunately I had to remove the crazy backplate in the end because I overlooked a very important aspect which is the mounting pressure on the socket. Sorry about that.
zsamz_, I'm@f4i for few months and nothing to claim about:up:
Someone said there are issues with Turbo\Extreme and F6 BIOS, so I don't think you're alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krohling
Head over to: http://www.station-drivers.com/
New beta BIOSs released today for:
X38-DQ6
P35-DQ6
P35T-DQ6
P35-DS4
P35-DS3P
P35-DS3
BIOS F7a beta for P35-DQ6 fixed a major v-drop I had, I set 1.362 in the BIOS and it's 1.328 in Windows, now I set it to 1.34 in BIOS and it's 1.328 in Windows too, I'm happy!
Does your pci-e works @ 16X?Quote:
Originally Posted by miahallen
My P35-DQ6 no longer holds my FSB setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tantawi
I can set it to 400x9, 400x6, 450x8, anything, it just boots at stock FSB, and my set multiplier.
Let me flash to these beat BIOs and see what if that fixes the problem.
Yeah, same thing happened to me but with the P35-DS3R, i couldn't make it work with overclock anymore, the solution, flash it back to stock bios (F4) :(Quote:
Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
(Sorry For my english)
What Clockgen setup are people using for the DS4 and the DQ6? (ie..what IC)
Thanks,
K
PLL ending 509. I'm pretty sure all (Gigabyte) P35 can use it...
In BIOS F4, standard, turbo, or extreme settings equates to a "performance" setting on memset of 11, and somewhat loose secondary memory timings. I thinks BIOS F4 all three settings are similar to BIOS F6 standard. (ie I dont think in F4 turbo and extreme changes much of anything).Quote:
Originally Posted by Krohling
In BIOS F6, standard gives a "performance" setting on memset of 10 with loose secondary memory timings. Turbo and extreme give a "perfomance" setting of 7 on memset, which equates to about 8% gain on Sandra memory bandwidth scores and tighter secondary timings.
Two possible issues.
If it is the too tight secondary timings on F6 turbo/ext, you can get around this. I am using BIOS F6 OC E6850 to 3.9, in extreme or turbo mode, but I had to manually set all my secondary timings first (trial and error to get tight as possible), then boot to turbo or extreme mode (they are same as far as I can tell after you manually hold timings). That way my secondary timings dont change (beyond the best I could get) and I get the improved 8% memory controller boost measured by sisoft sandra in F6 turbo or extreme.
However, I tried a Eurpean early version of F5? or F6? beta, dont remember, but on it turbo set the "performance" measured by memset to 6, and I could not boot with it. Just for fun, I had memset on 11, and when I changed to 6, my computer shut off. Point is, if "performance" on memset of 7 is problem on your mobo (like 6 was on mine), not the tighter secondary memory timings, then I dont know of a way around that. Then you have to use F6 in standard, or F4 in any mode (same as F6 in standard). You could test this by using memset with F6 standard and then manually changing performance to 7 to see if you can.
Since all mobo are different, and I have different ram, dont know if my settings would help, but will post if you want. I am rock stable on small ffts, blend, and pcie 16x. But if I change one setting, I get either loss pcie 16 to 1x or unstable or reboot issues.
I wish GB would let you manually change the performance in the BIOS, ie like 7, 8 , 9, instead of only two settings, 7 on turbo/extreme and 10/11 on standard.
Hey guys i just flashed F7b for my DS3P and-
- The PC Health menu now lists the actual current voltages for vcore, memory, +3.3v and +12v.
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1...2007492fz5.jpg
-The memory timings are now split into two sections, one for the main four and one for the sub-timings. I've no issue running the Turbo and Extreme options, tho I didn't try F6 and don't know if I would have had any issues selecting those options in F6.
-Vdroop and vdrop is now less. With 1.5325 set in BIOS I was getting 1.49v at idle and 1.46v under load according to Everest. Now I'm getting 1.50v at idle and 1.49v under load.
-Disabling Hyperthreading also disabled one of my cores. Re-enabling it allowed access to all four cores.
Whoa! Thats great! I mean, finally they reduce the huge vdrop, i hope it works the same on my P35-DS3R!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cob
Good! now let's wait for a DS3R solution... I have to put the BIOS voltage at 1.55V to get 1.48V idle, and 1.44V load @ 3.7 :-O
How is this? Bad Drop?
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS4 Rev. 2.0
Or is the IP35-Pro is better?
Alex
I had both, preferred IP-35 Pro.Quote:
Originally Posted by AgonxOC
No update for DS3R yet. Crossflash does not work from @bios or q-flash :(
Quote:
Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
Thank you for your help.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaleGseK
This was my plan.
To downgrade the BIOS.
Epic fail.
The problem appeared in F6, so I went to F7a, when down to F5, then down to F4. All epic fail.
I will try F7a and clear the BIOs jumper.
EDIT:
Epic fail.
The BIOs cleared.
But any FSB above 267, is 267.
I tried updating, downgrading, "Load optimized fail-safe defaults", no turbo options are enabled, cleared CMOS battery with jumper, I may have, killed the motherboard I guess?
My Windows boots are like, 2 minutes and 50 seconds now.
And sometimes the drive isn't found.
And I am getting random freezes.
The most voltage I ever gave the CPU was 1.475v, and it didn't even POST.
The northbridge, the most whatever +0.2 is.
And, FSB, +0.2.
Well, I guess I'll just buy a Maximus Formula
I don't know if it works with DQ6 but I know for a fact that the F3 BIOS for DS4 allows you to manually adjust the performance level. In that vesrion the tRD value corresponds to Memsets performance level. So I actually had to downgrade the stock BIOS to get the performance I wanted. Hope this helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by rge
That was the problem! I had also been having an issue with my music & videos (only the audio) not playing smoothly when doing ANY activity (even scrolling in a web page). After I found out about the x16 -> x1 issue, I investigated, and sure enough, I was running at x1.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
I solved the problem based on reccommendations earlier in this thread. I manually set my PCIe clock to 110MHz in the BIOS, and raised my PCIe & MCH voltages slightly. Now I'm at x16 and posted a 3DMark06 score of 13,260 :yepp:
I have the DS4 Rev2.0 and have found the Vdroop isn't too bad (F7 BIOS). My BIOS setting is 1.325V, CPU-Z shows 1.296V at idle and at load it flucuates between 1.264V & 1.280V.Quote:
Originally Posted by AgonxOC
Thank you all guys for the responses and sorry for my late reply.
Yesss!! Thank you! the MCH Voltage over +0.2v is causing the problem. Anything higher than +0.2v on MCH and it will cause the PCIEX1 issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
It works fine with MCH Voltage +0.2v .I am currently testing the stability of my overclock with MCH on +0.2v .I used to set it on +0.3v .
But certainly it shouldn't be like this cause some people may need to have more than +0.2 MCH Voltage to reach stability with their overclock.
Thanks. That trick doesnt work in my case. The only way to get it back up to PCIEX16 for me is to pull out the graphics card completely waiting for 20 seconds then reseating the graphics card back into mobo. It will boot with correct PCIEX16 into windows but falls back to PCIEX1 again after a reboot unless I set the MCH Voltage to +0.2 or lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by Millyons
Thanks. Yea I have tried increasing the PCIE Freq from 100 to 120 it didn't help and I am setting my Vcore on 1.5875 that is something I cannot change cause I need that much for a stable OC.Quote:
Originally Posted by nkarnold
Thank you again JoeBear.
EDIT: Hmmm it actually seems that the combination of having the MCH voltage set to no higher than +0.2 / PCIE Voltage set to +0.2 and raising the PCIE Freq to 105 is fixing the problem in my case. I am so glad that I can keep my P35-DQ6.
In my case too, on all the BIOSes I've tried (from F4 to F6), the tRD = performance level in memset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skauneboy
On my system, I've manually entered all the memory timings and subtiming (except the last one which is on Auto since it seems to be the only value where I can boot). When I change the memory performance setting, it doesn't change anything (at least from the results I get from Everest).
Bu If I only select the 4 first memory subtiming, I did see it changed the memset performance level.
Then I've concluded that the memory performance setting is only useful if you don't manually enter all the memory subtimings. However I left it to Extreme just in case ... :shrug:
BTW, I have found that the PC won't resume from hibernation if the OC is too high. I am stable @ 3.7 for everything (even prime) but not for hibernation resuming.
I do a lot of hibernation and is kinda annoying to let the PC powered when nothing is being done (and also consumes a lot of power) or to being restarting a lot during the day, so I scaled back to 3.6 and even lowered my volts, and now hibernation works.
Anybody else had this situation? oh, this is Vista 64 btw...
Very helpful, thanks! Just tried it, tRD adjusts performance in DQ6 as well, somehow missed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skauneboy
Does anyone know besides secondary timings what else turbo or extreme adjust versus standard? I have all timings on manual except phase, and with bios F6 set on turbo or extreme instead of standard, I still get improvements in everest measured read (from 9350 to 9500) copy (from 7627 to 8425) and latency (from 54.4 to 52.9), and spi (from 13.04 to 12.95), despite all memset visible settings being same and all everest memory timings listed under chipset same.
How do you determine how many lanes the Vid Card is getting?Quote:
Originally Posted by miahallen
Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Proton
CPU-Z "Mainboard" tab under "Graphic Interface." Or nVIDIA control panel-->Help-->System Information.
Correct, I used the CPU-Z method.Quote:
Originally Posted by SySTaXer
BTW, I stated that I boosted the MCH voltage as part of my fix. But I was just reading the posts on the last page and saw people having issues with too much MCH voltage as well. So for the record, I wasnted to be more specific. I'm currently running my Q6600 G0 at 400x8 with 4x1GB of Crucial Ballistic PC2-6400 with a 1:1 ratio and 4-4-4-12 timings.
When I was having the PCIe x1 problem, I was running the following settings:
PCIe clock - auto
voltages:
PCIe - normal
MCH - normal
RAM - +0.2V
CPU - 1.325V
To solve the PCIe x1 issue I adjusted my settings as follows:
PCIe clock - 110MHz
voltages:
PCIe - +0.05V
MCH - +0.05V
RAM - +0.2V
CPU - 1.325V
I'm not sure why the others needed so much extra MCH voltage, mine seems to be perfectly stable with these settings (they must be pushing 500MHz+ FSB speeds or something).
Vdrop problem seems almost gone with new F7a beta bios for the DQ6. 1,5375 in bios, 1,53 real.. Very nice news for us DQ6 owners.
But, was the vdrop reduced or the sensor was calibrated?
Heh... who knows.
I'l try it later...
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by SySTaXer
I m updating my computer again.
This time I m installling a P35-DS3P rev2.0 with a QX6850.
Any recomendations on RAM
I was looking at using Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-8500C5D 2x1024
I was also looking at 4GB kits.
Do you have any advice?
Also this means my QX6700 is now up for sale.....priced to sell.... Find me on IM and leave a message.
Crucial Ballistix 8500 => cheap, micron D9 chips guarantee and very good performers: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=143009Quote:
Originally Posted by mackintire
I fyou like the *bling, you can take them in tracers ;)
Anyone having a link to the bios F6b for P35-DS3 ?
On station-drivers the link actually point to the P35C-DS3 and on softpedia in point to the F2 bios :/
EDIT: I found it: http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
Anyone knows the difference between rev 1.0 and rev 1.1 P35-DQ6 boards ?
What has been changed/improved in rev 1.1 board ?
Looks like only the Silentpipe was replaced by a smaller cooling system for chipset and mosftets, to widen the area for bigger CPU HSFs.Quote:
Originally Posted by SySTaXer
I don't know if the back panel parallel and serial ports were removed. Some newewer Gigabyte P35 revisions have more USB ports in the back panel.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krohling
Thank you for the information. More backpanel USB ports is a plus in my book cause I use many USB devices and the expansion slots area of my mainboard is pretty crowded already. Adding the USB port bracket is not going to look pretty. Though my flat panel gives me two more USB ports.
Do you own the rev 1.1 board? If the answer is yes, can you post a rather high resolution picture of it?
Here are the pictures of both revisions I got from gigabyte's website but they are pretty small. I am assuming since the rev 1.1 board has its own webpage and BIOS files they might have also changed some electronic components, the clock generator IC for example. The clock generator IC on the rev 1.0 boards (ICS 9LPRS587EGLF if I am not mistaken) is not supported in the latest version of SetFSB as far as I know maybe the rev 1.1 board is supported. High-res picture helps with tracking down those kind of changes.
Version 2.0 of the P35 Gigabyte boards has auto reset fuses on the USB ports. That should diminish some of the RMA returns.
Does anyone know of any sites still selling the GA-P35-DQ6?
Huh?...what the hell are those?Quote:
Originally Posted by mackintire
Thanks for sharing your settings. I was this ----> <----- close to replacing my P35-DQ6 with another board but everything is working perfectly fine now.Quote:
Originally Posted by miahallen
I update my p35-ds3r with the new bios F7d waiting for a vdrop reduction, but that wasn't the case, same vdrop as before (F4-F6a-F6) only a few new things, nothing really importan imo.
UPDATE
Issue still remains with the new f3i bios. :(
Currently in vista at 1740 mhz....
DS3R and the latest F7b bios now shows actual voltages :up:
When USB devices die, they usually go out in style. Typically it destroys the device (usually a flash drive) and the USB port.
Asus often uses a drop resistor on their USB ports that makes using the port for high powered device more like playing roulette. Fair odds it will work, but not always.
With unprotected ports it gets more interesting, with the user often ending up shorting the entire board out.
I have 2 dead motherboards killed by the same genius with the same flash drive here where I work.
With auto resetting fuses on the USB ports. You can't destroy the port or the board with a shorted USB flash drive.
BuddhaTB: I have a brand new GA-P35-DQ6 Rev 1.0 here unopened if you want it. Toss me a resonable bid and its yours. Private message me for details.
No problem, glad I could help:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by SySTaXer
Why does every bios for the DS3R say - fix PS2 compatibility issues.
F7d 2007/10/26 Support Intel 45nm Yorkfield CPU
Flashed - no diff, still droop.
I just updated to F7a on DQ6, getting the same decrease in vdroop.Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerezzet
On F6 at 1.475 in bios, CPUZ reads 1.44 (load). On that voltage, 3.9 stable, 3.93 would reliably fail orthos in 5-8 mins , 3.969 would fail to boot (reboot into auto).
On F7a at 1.475 in bios, CPUZ reads 1.472 (load), 3.93 orthos stable at least 4 hours (I shut off did not fail), 3.969 failed orthos after 2 mins. At 1.4875 in bios, still reads 1.472 CPUZ load, 1.488 idle.
Vdroop seemed little variable depending on the voltage set at, but ranged from .003 to .016 in F7a versus .03 to .035 in F6
I read somewhere that vdroop can't be fixed by the BIOS.
it is probably just Bios calibration but also cant see it fixing the vdroop, as in the actual setting is now closer to the bios setting.
can someone tell me how to install windows via CD?
I have a slipstreamed (using nlite) the ich9r drivers and the jmicron drivers. I know these are being loaded as I see them as windows loads the different drivers during installation.
I believe my HDD is being detected by the install software but it keeps on complaining that it cannot find my IDE dvd burner. I have set the bios option to "IDE" for the jmicron controller.
thank you.
ps. another question: Can I run 3 SATA disks (2 are in raid 0 mode while the other 1 is standalone) using the intel controller?
I know, but other people were posted how it fixed theirs.Quote:
Originally Posted by swaaye
F7a bios
bios value-----idle CPUZ---------TAT load CPUZ
1.475----------1.472---------------1.456
1.48125-------1.472---------------1.472
1.4875--------1.488---------------1.472
F6 bios
1.475---------1.44-----------------1.44
1.48125------1.456----------------1.44
1.4875-------1.456----------------1.456
Since bios can change volts by .00625, and sensor only reads in jumps of .016, all CPUZ measurement are at best +/- 0.008, ie sensor is rounding up or down to nearest .016.
So looks like Vdroop is only ~.008v on F7a and F6 with rounding to zero or rarely to .016, and there was +.03 volt calibration correction on F7a. (Increased heat and increased OCing, suggests board is actually putting out +.03 volts more at same setting.)
What is kind of confusing is the review articles quoting .03v Vdroop for GB board, only way to get that value, I believe is by using bios value versus load measurements. Hence i was using Vdroop definition as same, though i agree that makes little sense.
Edit (added info on F6 bios)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128067
any news of the rev 2 overclocks?
Possibly. All I know is that both my vcore reading in Windows and temps are higher with F7b, than they were with F5 at 1.53125v in BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Millyons
Flashed back to F6.
bios 1.475, Cpuz idle 1.44, cpuz load (TAT) still 1.44
So perhaps was just calibration.
But if definition of vdroop is load-idle measured, then very little Vdroop on F6 or F7a. Just bios is off from measured in F6.
Hi!
Where is the Bios F7 for Gigabyte P35 DQ6 1.0v? I have F6 version. Is recommended flash to F7a version?
Thanks
core temps are screwed up now on the DS3R
core temps are reading 26 +/- a few degr. per core when idle
there is no way my 3210 @ 1.52v is idling that low considering my room temps.
it was atleast 10deg higher w/ F6
normal temp probe on the board doesnt seem to have changed though.
maybe its just speedfan...?
mode 1 and mode 2 are also missing now under ram configuration
vdimm is atleast 0.05v low
bios +4 = 2.202 in the bios
onboard with a DMM = 2.27
Could someone please help me understand the differences between the p35 variants, specifically the s series.
p35-s3
p35-ds3
p35c-ds3r
p35-ds3r
p35-ds3p
p35-ds3l
p35-ds4
So far, i understand that the p35c means that it can handle both ddr2 and ddr3 ram. The DS4 is a step up with better cooling and xfire. The S3 is a budget board. What are the differences between the rest? I can see that the dsp has slightly better cooling + xfire, but does it have a better RAID chip like it did in the 965p chipset boards. Whats special about the ds3r and ds3l compared to the standard ds3?
Thanks
does the ds3 have pcie 1.1 oder 1.0?
In P35C-DS3R with Bios F5 Smart Fan doesn´t work! :(
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost101
the gigabyte website has a side by side comparison chart where you can pic and choose your mobo's to compare
just use that it will show you the differences.
but as usual, gigabyte has made the choice to make 10 different mobo's none of which are really very different.
I own a Rev 1.0 DQ6. Judging by the picture I believe the Rev 1.1 DQ6 still has the same back panel ports as the 1.0.Quote:
Originally Posted by SySTaXer
Rev 1.1 and 1.0 share the same BIOS versions. So I don't know if there's any other difference aside the ones pointed so far.
Only a more detailed comparison of both boards could say if any visual difference is noticeable.
Take a look at P35-DS3R 2.0 it has more USB ports, and parallel and serial ports were removed from the back panel, but you can still use them with proper connection accessories.
Compare...
DS3R 2.0: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=2626
DS3R 1.0: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=2543
About the fuses, I really can't tell because I never experienced such a problem and I hope I never do, but its interesting information.
For the people checking their vcores with CPU-Z I'd recommend you use the current Gigabyte software, Easytune 5, which is more accurate. Still, I believe softwares are less accurate than a digital multimeter. CPU-Z is sometimes dumb for vcore readings.
The value which is more important to take note is the drop on the vcore from the idle state to full load state. That way the reading you get you can estimate or have a very close result of how much (%) the vcore is dropping when the computer goes to full load.
You can also use Everest and enable logging of temperatures and voltages, very useful. But may not be accurate with the readings. But as I said, you can see the variation.
DAMMIT ! I said earlier that apparently everything is fine and that I needed to test my oc stability with MCH at +0.2
Well it's not stable with low MCH voltage. I need MCH at +0.3 to be stable wich brings back the PCIEX1 issue. :down:
I guess it's time to move on to X38. If the F7 bios for P35-DQ6 comes out before I can get my hands on a Maximus Formula I'll give it a go to see if it fixes the PCIE issue otherwise this will be my first and last gigabyte board. Chances are pretty slim though that F7 is going to fix the PCIEX1 issue with high MCH voltage.
I have noticed that both I35Pro and P5K have this option in their bios "FORCE PEG X1" or "FORCE PCIE X1" something like that wich should be set to disabled and it's related to the first PCIEX16 slot. P35-DQ6 doesnt have that option. Sounds to me like it prevents the PCIEX16 slot from being forced back down to X1. Could this be the reason why those two boards dont have this issue P35-DQ6 is having? Just a guess I am not sure.
I have also informed an official gigabyte rep on a forum about this problem in details. IMO it's better than having to jump through low tier bot-like support people to finally reach someone whom you can actually converse with like humans. If you go through requesting official support that is.
naw man, from what i remember ASUS P5B-DLX had a simular bios setting and it was even worse about the x1 pci-x issue, its not just gigabyteQuote:
Originally Posted by SySTaXer
I thought the fix for the PCIe X1 bug was to set your PCIe bus to either 101 Mhz or 110 Mhz
I also thought that bug only occcurs if you are at or over 0.2+ volts on the MCH.
Note: Krohling may be right, it may be 0.3+ Volts
Asus boards have the same issue and the same solution.
Did you try this?
So, this issue is reproduceable if:
-You set MCH volts to +0.2 and higher (or only if it is +0.3?)
-It's gone if you set PCIe BUS @ 101 or 110MHz
I'll have to try this, to confirm.
I'm using only 420MHz FSB I don't need to boost any voltages.
i havent had the issue on the DS3P, to busy to push it i just keep it on 400mhz with just +0.05v.....but on my old P5B DLX as soon as the voltage was put to 1.55 it would get the x1 issue
Yup I have tried it before and I just tried it again before posting. No luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by mackintire
For me anything higher than +0.2Quote:
Originally Posted by Krohling
Setting the PCIE frequency to 101 or 110 doesnt solve it either. I have also tried 105/115 and 120.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Millyons
So asus boards have the same issue and apparently it gets fixed by changing PCIE freq but not in my case or probably GAP35-DQ6's case. I cant get back full PCIEX16 even when I change PCIE freq to 101-110-105-115-120
I have a bit of interesting info here. The gigabyte forum rep wich I talked about earlier had to say this about the PCIE issue:
So P35 chipset does have problem with any MCH voltage higher than +0.2Quote:
I talked this with our RD, yes this will have this issue in p35 chipset MCH Voltage limited .
sometimes when over MCH Voltage: more than 0.2v, your system can even search no VGA card. we suggest you can just +0.2v for overclock. if you want overclock more, you can over Voltage for cpu, ram..., it will be better.
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Anyone knows if X38 behaves the same when using high MCH voltage?
Hi, My P35 DS3 (F6 Bios) lost the overclock many times after the system power down.
When the system start, ocasionaly go down (like a reset) and restart with the default values.
I had a 4300@3000Mhz with 333 fsb, my mems are quimonda 800 runing at 667 1:1 or 800 (also lost the oc)
Any can help me?
Chaps...Station drivers have new bios for your mobos, F7b for the P35-DQ6 and others:
www.station-drivers.com
Hi, i currently having Q6700 G0 and want Gigabyte P35, i think DS3P is enough, but anyone have good results with this combo?? especially hitting 500++ FSB :D